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Barek Halfhand
I touched on my belief that certain stone or rock based building materials may harbor the psychic impressions perceived by many of us , I have heard from friends that have visited the Viet Nam memorial wall in Washington DC have felt something unusual,considering how many grief stricken people have visited this site it may be prime example ,I am not sure but think it is made of a type of granite(will Google and report later) this taken into consideration wouldn't it also be reasonable to consider that graveyards loaded with assorted granite tombstones that have been exposed to countless grieving visitors ...
I kinda of consider this my "Sci-Fi"explanation to some aspects of hauntings but it doesn't necessarily dismiss the possibility of a spiritual activity....B.
Ice Wings
Interesting theory... a mineral that can absorb emotion?
Dagaz
Interesting subject indeed! I've heard of the theory that certain stones and minerals are able to record happenings. Weren't the good old records made of clay way back when?

The only thing that always confused me in regard to this theory is how does it play the happenings back? Wouldn't the material have to be in some sort of motion for the initial recording to leave certain grooves behind? And how do you replay it afterward?(I guess I have to research this a bit more).

So then, if this is possible, can it just record voices and tones or also visuals? So many questions...



Zombie Boy
Very Interesting
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Ice Wings @ Jan 4 2007, 07:09 PM) [snapback]1487171[/snapback]
Interesting theory... a mineral that can absorb emotion?

good question
my theory is it my be anything from the earths own EM field to mild tremors to a nearby train passing or traffic or weather ,power tools used in construction (as was the case for me in the basement of the Joliet Correctional Center-)..........................B.
Lady_Anvilabeel
It's called residual energy original.gif
Jack Black
or maybe your mind is just subconsiously telling you that you should be feeling something, after all a place like that would certainly provoke an emotional response even if you are not directly affected by the event.
~Onyx~
QUOTE(ledley @ Jan 5 2007, 02:11 PM) [snapback]1488354[/snapback]
or maybe your mind is just subconsiously telling you that you should be feeling something, after all a place like that would certainly provoke an emotional response even if you are not directly affected by the event.


I tend to agree, I wouldn't so much attribute it to a psychoreactive substance or mineral, the intense emotion provoked by the very subject of the monument itself could probably but cut with a knife....emotionally-speaking, of course.
eqgumby
I find the idea of some form of natural recording going on very possible. The idea that somehow emotions, events, sensations that are not tangible, are some how naturally recorded in or by our environment seems feasible.
If you look at recording media and how it has been developed over the years, you can see a huge variety of methods. Magnetic tape, wax records (vinyl), light sensitive film (photographs), lasers, even crystalline media. It sounds complicated, but take a look at an old player piano. The roll of paper with holes punched in it IS a recording. An engraved stone IS a recording.
It's the playing back that is a bit more complicated. And who knows, maybe our intangible emotions are imprinted on our environment. Maybe under normal conditions it's not noticeable, like trying to LOOK at an old vinyl record and determine what type of music is on it. But with the right environmental factors in place, we can "hear" the emotion being released like sound is released from a vinyl record by a record player.
coldethyl
Didn't they do something on Mythbusters where they tried to record messages on pottery?
boorite
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jan 5 2007, 01:34 PM) [snapback]1488495[/snapback]
Didn't they do something on Mythbusters where they tried to record messages on pottery?


They tried to make a sound recording on pottery, using things like straw as a transducer. It didn't really work.
~Onyx~
The idea that certain things(like plants for example) are effected by they're environment is well documented(playing certain types of music or positive verbal reinforcement), but to say that a substance is psychoreactive is what the O.P. is trying to get at...

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I touched on my belief that certain stone or rock based building materials may harbor the psychic impressions perceived by many of us , I have heard from friends that have visited the Viet Nam memorial wall in Washington DC have felt something unusual,considering how many grief stricken people have visited this site it may be prime example ,I am not sure but think it is made of a type of granite(will Google and report later) this taken into consideration wouldn't it also be reasonable to consider that graveyards loaded with assorted granite tombstones that have been exposed to countless grieving visitors ...



I don't believe that such a substance exists, and while tactile-touch may evoke reaction(and in some cases emotion), it's not to be mistaken with just picking up a tombstone and instantly getting depressed or "drained" by the intensely violent or sorrowful way that the subject burried there died.
Neil_TIP
It's residual energy, it comes from peoples emotions at visiting the memorial (There will be a lot of anguished/angry/upset people visiting the site), the rock will absorb the energy, plus the stones natural energies
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Anvil @ Jan 5 2007, 08:47 AM) [snapback]1487959[/snapback]
It's called residual energy original.gif
to be sure it was a "stressful enviorment "to be here but i spentalot of time in this place (Joliet correctional center)and would often have to walk amung killers and other assorted baddies so when i got across the street to the basement of this "annex"building where the old seg (punishment)cells are with other trade nearby and no inmates (at the time )even in the building i was much more at ease than usual and I was NOT at all creeped out by the basement at ,just consider the composition of the base structure,the large scale construction (alot of additional electrical conduites overhead and powerstools humming everywhere was enough to shake the bad energy out of anything especially the contemptuous bad energy I felt out of nowhere and given the poximity to the cell that i felt it
(sensed it before i actually realized I was standind in front of cells where all this anguish and unfortunately abuse had taken place. )...B.
Camaxtli
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The only thing that always confused me in regard to this theory is how does it play the happenings back? Wouldn't the material have to be in some sort of motion for the initial recording to leave certain grooves behind? And how do you replay it afterward?(I guess I have to research this a bit more).


well one of the leading causes of poltergeists are the energy from a troubled teen.

if a lot of residual energy builds up its possible to form a poltergeist. However it may act different(liike a sub-specias)
Barek Halfhand
just to clarify ,I didnt mean to imply that the residual haunting theory was mine but my spin on it i think I also caught the pottery experiment show. innocent.gif
also maybe the memorial is a bad example of this idea (i havn't paid my respects as of yet)nor do i know if my freind has lost someone to that war,but i think maybe when all those names come into focus the sheer volume of them may evoke this as a sort of shock...
Also in the case of the tombstone comment I made I did'nt mean the stone was imbued with the sptirit of its dead subdweller but maybe exposed to the psychic trauma of a visiting grieving reletive/freind. and somehow released by weather,tremers,tidal forces.etc....Thanks to all of you for the feedback! been very enlightning .........B.
Lady_Anvilabeel
To take residual energy a step foward - it gets really interesting when you have a medium or empath who reads the energy for more than what is just felt or sensed. This is the only thing in my mind that takes it beyond the theory of EMF etc causing these feelings - which I agree it can do.

But where there is residual energy a medium/empath can gain a wealth of information from it, like proper details of events and if such details are able to be confirmed then yes it demostrates something more...
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Anvil @ Jan 5 2007, 08:39 PM) [snapback]1489085[/snapback]
To take residual energy a step foward - it gets really interesting when you have a medium or empath who reads the energy for more than what is just felt or sensed. This is the only thing in my mind that takes it beyond the theory of EMF etc causing these feelings - which I agree it can do.

But where there is residual energy a medium/empath can gain a wealth of information from it, like proper details of events and if such details are able to be confirmed then yes it demostrates something more...

maybe the mediums read the full novel where as i can only pick up on the Readers Digest version...B. rolleyes.gif
eqgumby
QUOTE(Onyxdk @ Jan 5 2007, 08:55 PM) [snapback]1488539[/snapback]
The idea that certain things(like plants for example) are effected by they're environment is well documented(playing certain types of music or positive verbal reinforcement), but to say that a substance is psychoreactive is what the O.P. is trying to get at...
I don't believe that such a substance exists, and while tactile-touch may evoke reaction(and in some cases emotion), it's not to be mistaken with just picking up a tombstone and instantly getting depressed or "drained" by the intensely violent or sorrowful way that the subject burried there died.


I tend to agree with you, but I can't dismiss the possibility that it MAY be possible that something may get recorded into natural media in some manner we can not yet explain. Just a WAY out there possibility I guess.
Lady_Anvilabeel
Science has already proven recording abilties with water and ice crystles, but I'm to lazy to go find a source right now grin2.gif
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