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Sadonis
Last night, I got off computer, went to watch TV and stayed up until around 2:30 in the morning.

I then proceeded to go to sleep.


First, I will describe the area of the "spook"....

It was outside of my window..window is covered with black silk curtains to keep out light...and look nice tongue.gif

Window is also open. A street lamp shines into my room because of its height(it's in a neighborhood..one of those tall street lamps). Houses are about 10-100 feet apart based on the hills around my house..only 1 house next to mine and I know the people.

Bed is setup next to window and curtains were slanted open with light shining onto the wall.



Now for the spooky part. I hopped into bed and my dog hopped on with me. He immediately looked out the window and sniffed the outside air(window is open) then turned around and tried to sleep. I turned out the light and could see the light shining in from the street lamp(it goes out every now and then..cant be turned off by vibrations..it's based on temperature). As I was lying in bed, I stared at the light on the wall, then to my dog and back again. I left the curtains slanted so the wind could blow in and cool the room down a little before I close it. It was about 5 minutes into staring at the light and thinking when my dog's ears crimped up and looked out the window. I, then, noticed that something was blocking the light, like a figure(BLOCKING it...the light was still shining because it was basically a silhouette on the wall with the light from the street lamp on both sides.

Dog started to bark at something outside of the window(the master bedroom is on the 1st floor of my house, mind you) and I moved the curtains aside to see nothing. No one was outside, and no car was coming up my driveway. My first instinct was to pick up the metal bat under my bed and go outside with the dog(bastard will chew through your arm if he doesn't know you, or if I tell him to). So I did so..walked into the room next to mine and walked outside through the back door of the house. I turned on the outside lights and searched. The ONLY place the figure could have gone would be behind the house, which would basically hinder your decisions since there is a tall fence next door, a hill to fall down about 20 feet from the window(fall wont hurt, but there is no way out of that yard because they have a front and back fence, and the front of the house has a steep driveway and a cliff that isn't easy to slide down without being heard.

I searched for 10 minutes and my neighbors even came out to look also(they said their child had seen a dark figure outside his window the night before).

After that happened, I looked at what I knew(the light, the street lamp) and tried to recreate the silhouette using a car, or even a person walking up my driveway(a 6'5" person can block the street lamp light about halfway at the top of the driveway), but the only way to recreate it was to walk up to the window.

Now..my dog does not bark at nothing. He will bark at anything that moves outside that shouldn't be there(he knows if it's a squirrel or a raccoon)...but a person standing outside my house at 2:40 in the morning can definitely get him roweled up.


The figure could not have been an animal unless it were a bear standing on its hind legs...or maybe a elk standing on its...legs......

I'm sure there was no bear because everyone in the neighborhood would know..and a bear would have probably blocked out ALL of the light that was shining into the window.



Basically..I'm a bit spooked at this since I never saw the figure myself other than with the light. However, the child next door saw a dark figure outside his window. He said he looked at it, then it flew away and vanished. I asked him what he meant by "flew away" and he told me he saw the figure at his height...on the 3rd floor of their house. THEIR house doesn't have ANY trees in the front of it..so you have to cross out a flying squirrel the size of a man tongue.gif



About to sleep again..not sure(not scared, just not tired). In a way I want to find the figure, but I don't...

The neighborhood is close knit, so I am thinking about calling everyone and asking them to keep their eyes peeled and call me if the same thing happens.


What frightens me is that the neighbor's son may not be the only child to have seen the figure. I have yet to ask around about this in the whole neighborhood or the neighborhood behind my house(blocked by a wooded area and a large wooden fence in the middle of it).


Anyone else had this type of spook? Almost makes me anxious to sleep, but scared to figure out if it's some stalker. I try to reassure myself..but telling myself that a dark figure is haunting the neighborhood isn't helping either.



Throw me some questions so I can answer them and find out some more information.

I am pleading that you do...
Shankpin
Maybe it was a peeping Tom? a voyerists-
_Nyx_
I'm really inclined to think you were overly tired.. but that's just me.. original.gif
Sadonis
QUOTE(Sunny98 @ Jan 5 2007, 05:45 AM) [snapback]1487538[/snapback]
Maybe it was a peeping Tom? a voyerists-



Did you read the entire post?


And if it were, I don't see how a lousy pervert could get out of the situation he was in. I saw which way the figure moved based on the movement in the light, and it only had about 5 options on where to go..each option would get a peeping tom stuck behind my house. I had my dog sniff around and search with me...he never whined(so he never got a scent).


Edit: Reply to above post.

I don't get tired easily..in fact I wasn't tired at 2:30 when I went to sleep, just had nothing better to do.

Did you not read the whole post either?

I can stay without sleep for about a day and a half(probably more...just never tried) without seeing things or having my mind play tricks on me. Being tired doesn't make you paranoid, it just makes you lazy, weak, and...tired.
Shankpin
Considering how things are now a days- I hope it is a ghost. But that's just me. There are people who dress up in black just so they can break in houses and crawl around (Im not kiddin') they rarely get caught. I'm only trying to give you heads up in case it's not a spook-- yes.gif
_Nyx_
Yeah, I read it... and you said you tried to sleep.. I've a feeling it could have been a dream or just being not quite awake. You can feel pretty much anything in a dream-like state including paranoia...
throwbolt
If it happens again would you go outside again to
see who/what it is?
Sadonis
QUOTE(_Nyx_ @ Jan 5 2007, 06:01 AM) [snapback]1487557[/snapback]
Yeah, I read it... and you said you tried to sleep.. I've a feeling it could have been a dream or just being not quite awake. You can feel pretty much anything in a dream-like state including paranoia...


I still don't get how I could've been dreaming. My dog WAS barking and my neighbors DID come outside and help me search. Why in the world do you think I would be paranoid at 2:30 in the morning. I used to stay up until 6:00 in the morning getting drunk.


Again..I don't get tired easily..I can easily stay awake for days if I am given something to do.


And I wasn't trying to sleep just then...as I said, I was leaving the window open for a little bit to let in cold air before I close it. I do it every night and my body functions as such ohmy.gif





As for the peeping tom and stalker thing...I'll have to keep my eye out...but I still don't see how a peeping tom could've hidden his scent from my dog or even gotten away without someone noticing him. Mind you..my house is basically surrounded by "traps". A VERY steep driveway, a tall fenced backyard(has to be tall since there is a neighborhood back there, a hill with another fenced house next to it, and a cliff to fall off of and break your neck.

I don't WANT it to be some dark haunting figure, but I don't see how it could've been a peeping tom. That and the same figure was seen by the neighbors son. Keep in mind he's 14 and doesn't make things up....he thinks he's mature, but that doesn't mean he makes things up.


Edit: Reply to above poster.

Yes..I would. I have a metal bat and a dog that will chew through your arm. With that dog, I could care less if you have a gun..shoot him and I'll beat you half to death and throw my cat onto your face to finish the job.

Why did you ask that anyways? ohmy.gif
Shankpin
Or, throw holy water around the front and back lawn, and it surely will keep any evil spooks away.


all seriousness, what do you think it is? or could be? When you saw it what was the first thing that came to your mind?
throwbolt
QUOTE(Sadonis @ Jan 5 2007, 07:12 PM) [snapback]1487563[/snapback]
Edit: Reply to above poster.

Yes..I would. I have a metal bat and a dog that will chew through your arm. With that dog, I could care less if you have a gun..shoot him and I'll beat you half to death and throw my cat onto your face to finish the job.

Why did you ask that anyways? ohmy.gif

You are braver than me but I dont have a dog or a metal bat...I think I woould hid somewheres and wait till the sun came up lol
kiddglock
Have you got any better weapons than a T-Ball bat?
Shankpin
Sadonis, if that stalker ( for lack of better word) LIVES close in your vicinity, your dog won't necessarily acknowledge the scent as different to go look for it.
Shankpin
QUOTE(kiddglock @ Jan 5 2007, 12:35 AM) [snapback]1487593[/snapback]
Have you got any better weapons than a T-Ball bat?



LMAO, give em that glock...
explorer

QUOTE
(a 6'5" person can block the street lamp light about halfway at the top of the driveway), but the only way to recreate it was to walk up to the window.


That's the most probable explanation. Perhaps a prowler who noticed your open window? Why do you think your dog didn't pick up the scent? What would he normally do if he did? Perhaps your dog was reading your fear and decided to stay close. Otherwise, are you in Mothman territory?
Also, the street lamps are temperature monitored, so if the night is warm enough, the street lamps don't work?


Sadonis
First..I prefer not to use a gun because I don't want to kill anyone.

If it were a pervert, I'd beat him with the bat if he were trying to hurt me..but I wouldn't kill him.

Now if it were a pervert with a gun, I would expect my dog to chew off his arm, him be distracted(maybe he shoots the dog) and then me hit him in the head with the bat. If he shoots the dog I'd probably purposefully crack his skull.



As for the scent...if it were someone that lives close, he would have followed a trail. Scent to a dog is simple to pick up since their noses are much different than ours. He can literally break up the different scents of the yard(the grass, the dirt, bugs) and find the one that doesn't make sense there. He knows my scent and the scent of everyone he comes in contact with. When he pick a scent up(of something that doesn't make sense) he will start to whine and get my approval to follow it. When he loses it, he will whine again for a few seconds and give up.


I live in Georgia...not sure if that is Mothman territory.

The street lamps are MILDLY effected by the outside temperature if it is warm. And it was actually...I believe 50 degrees last night(not entirely sure). I also know the light didn't go out because of the silhouette with the light still around it.

Also..my dog doesn't "read" my fear and stay close to me. If we finds a scent he knows to whine so I know that he's found it.




And to answer the "what do you think it was?" question.

I really don't know. I just know that I don't want it to be a person because then I'll feel stupid. I examined every possible way he could've gotten away and I still don't see how he could've. If it were a person trying to run, the person would have broken their legs trying to hide(the part of the neighborhood I live in is basically a large hill). If the person were to jump anywhere they would either break their legs, their neck, or their arms. I don't know about you, but I've broken a leg and an arm before and it hurt like all hell. I screamed at the top of my lungs for about 3-4 minutes before the pain began to be "usual" to my body. Even then I was still moaning from the pain.


Edit: Oh..and I'm going to sleep now. Need to wake up in like 3-4 hours to run, so I'm going to. Leaving dog outside(it's warm enough for him) and locking all the doors and windows. If ANYTHING comes near the house that my dog can see, he will bark like hell, wake the entire neighborhood, and I'll run outside and check.

Otherwise..I'm not to worried atm.
Lady_Anvilabeel
It wasn't a bird/owl/bat or something that flew around the light otuside projecting a figure image shadow? otherwise spppoookkky!
Aztec Warrior
Reminds me of the Mothman.
kiddglock
QUOTE(Aztec Warrior @ Jan 5 2007, 03:22 PM) [snapback]1488017[/snapback]
Reminds me of the Mothman.


Also sounds like the thing in Jeepers Creepers.

Nobody in their right mind wants to kill anybody else. Let there be no mistake though, when you take up the gun, you'd better be ready to take a life with it. That said, you'd be surprised at how many conflicts are avoided due to the presence of a firearm and the demeanor of somebody ready to use it.

The last I knew, you could go down to your courthouse or city hall in Georgia and get a Concealed Carry permit. I would suggest some basic training in how to use a handgun before doing this though.

When you think about it in-depth, who deserves to live? You, who are bothering nobody, or the scum that accosts you and means to do you bodily harm. The gun is neither good nor evil but rather a tool to extend the will of its owner. Whether that will be good or evil is a function of the owner themselves and not the tool. Another thing to think about is your family and friends. It may not be all about you but rather, saving the life of one you love.
Loonboy


Anvil just beat me to it. passifier.gif

My explanation would have to be an owl or some other large bird that hunts at night.
They can be large, have odd shadows, and fly away. They could be in the air at 1st or 3rd floor levels in order to block the light. And a dog would definitely react to it.

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coldethyl
QUOTE(Anvil @ Jan 5 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]1487971[/snapback]
It wasn't a bird/owl/bat or something that flew around the light otuside projecting a figure image shadow? otherwise spppoookkky!


That's exactly what I was thinking. An owl blocking the light. Especially since the neighbor kid said it 'flew' away.
NatureGirl
If it happens again I would worry about it. Let us know what happened the next night, did your dog bark? Did it appear again?
I think the bat/owl theory is most realistic.
Barek Halfhand
thanks for the post Sadonis ,
just so I have it straight, you we initially sort of gazing at this light reflection on the wall and "thinking" then the dog jumped up on the bed with you ,your attention shifted to the dog (just for a minute or so?)and then his ears perked up and he looked towards the opening in the curtains ,you look at the opening noticing the light was blocked that was visible a minute or so ago ,you than looked at the wall to noticed this silhouette ont the wall with the light shining around it ,the reason I asked is that I have done some security work involving surveillance that I used the light through crack technique to detect movement and you would be surprised by A:how much your eyes WILL trick you if you stare at the source long enough and B:how much your perception of that light source will change when you or your environment causes you to move or shift positioning(i.e.:dog jumps up on bed and by the sound of it he's big enough to cause some bed shifting), now as for the silhouette -hope I remember to spell check this time-I wonder if the are any large Owl or Hawks indigenous to be somehow landing on this street lamp and sort draping his feathers over it (dog may have sensed it as well). As for neighbor kid seeing something, well the word "kid itself speaks volumes ,that said it still is spooky as hell!...............B.
Sadonis
The problem with the bird theory is that it's currently Winter. Birds fly south..way south of where I live to keep themselves warm.

There also aren't any owls that fly around here that are the size of a man.


I still don't see how my dog causing bed shifting could create a silhouette on the wall.

Also, I left my dog outside for the night and the only odd thing to happen was that I woke up at exactly 7:00 this morning and found my dog dancing when I walked outside. He doesn't usually dance unless there is someone playing with him..but he is an oddball.


Just because the neighbor's son is a child, that doesn't mean he will make these things up. He told his parents BEFORE what happened to me, so he wasn't just trying to play pranks on me. He also isn't the type of person to hide his lies very well...white lips, red ears, hesitant voice.

When I asked, he was scared but anxious just like I am.


And as an FYI, I DO have a gun. I have 3 handguns and a rifle, actually. I never pull them out unless I'm sure that I'm going to have to defend myself...in other words unless I know for sure that the person I plan on using it on has a gun. Otherwise I just have a dog that will chew through your arm and a metal bat.
boorite
If it appeared on consecutive nights, it will probably appear again. Keep an eye out.

Large birds can have a wingspan that is darn near man-sized, but I'm guessing you're well aware of that.

It is reminiscent of the Mothman story. Any prophecies of disaster floating around town?

BTW, how did the neighbors happen to come out and talk to you at 2 in the morning?
Sadonis
I know there are birds with a wingspan that is near man sized, but the bird would have to be spreading its wings in front of my window..otherwise the shadow on the wall would have been smaller.

My neighbors came outside because they were awake(no idea what they were doing) and they probably heard me rustling through the leaves. It was just fall and I have yet to get around to raking the leaves out of my yard(doing it today ohmy.gif). And before you ask, no, I didn't hear the figure rustling through the leaves around my house because my front and right side of my house aren't covered in leaves..just dotted with them.


And I don't think their are any disaster prophecies floating about...not much you can do in this town. A flood wouldn't be a problem for my neighborhood since it would have to be literally 40-80ft high. Earthquakes don't really happen..but people think the east coast is due for a disaster at SOME point. No nuclear power plants..nothing much unless a meteor decides to crash down on Georgia.
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Sadonis @ Jan 5 2007, 04:13 PM) [snapback]1488687[/snapback]
The problem with the bird theory is that it's currently Winter. Birds fly south..way south of where I live to keep themselves warm.

There also aren't any owls that fly around here that are the size of a man.
I still don't see how my dog causing bed shifting could create a silhouette on the wall.

Also, I left my dog outside for the night and the only odd thing to happen was that I woke up at exactly 7:00 this morning and found my dog dancing when I walked outside. He doesn't usually dance unless there is someone playing with him..but he is an oddball.
Just because the neighbor's son is a child, that doesn't mean he will make these things up. He told his parents BEFORE what happened to me, so he wasn't just trying to play pranks on me. He also isn't the type of person to hide his lies very well...white lips, red ears, hesitant voice.

When I asked, he was scared but anxious just like I am.
And as an FYI, I DO have a gun. I have 3 handguns and a rifle, actually. I never pull them out unless I'm sure that I'm going to have to defend myself...in other words unless I know for sure that the person I plan on using it on has a gun. Otherwise I just have a dog that will chew through your arm and a metal bat.

I was thinking it was maybe an owl or hawk or other namless foul that might be perched on the light a casted what apeared as a mansized wall silhouette with its tailfeathers like doing finger puppets on a screen with a projector bulb, also didnt mean to imply the child was automaticaly incredulous just that children in general are sometimes more likely to mistake an ordinary object for a dark figure, it also wasnt clear how well you knew this child...that said you seem familiar enough with your home and yard to know if something isnt right and thats sounds like its the case here,
also did you pick up on fear or agression in the dog? ,.....B.
Lady_Anvilabeel
Owls can be pretty big and as far as I know they aren't migrating birds. We have owls in our area all year round (scotland) they are very hardy birds. They also have very round flat faces/heads yes.gif Plus shadow sizes can be distorted - theres no telling the true size of an object from a shadow really.
*Frank*
If it is an owl you should claim it as a pet. You could call it Steve. Steve the owl.

I'm back by the way!
Blueguardian
ok judging by what people have said, these are the most likely:

Moth Man- actually has the ability to fly and is also quite big, some people report big red glowing eyes, dont look into them by the way.

prowler - a very fast prowler at that, that your dog couldnt even track.

or maybe a spirit/phantom

me i would go none of the above in my opinion, excluding the flying part i would go with bigfoot, not only is bigfoot amazingly fast, apparently he also has the great ability to hide, im not trying to scare you or anything but if in the off chnce it is a bigfoot, you dog would probably get smashed (no offence), bigfoots and dogs dont seem to get along much, i read storys of dogs dieing from bigfoot attacks, no matter how big the dog is they always seem to be completly belted no matter how hard they try , poor dogs:(, it also makes sense with the height thing you said about a person being 6'5" cause bigfoots are normally tall , its just my opinion, please note it could be any of the other things mentioned as well. Be careful dontgetit.gif
Barek Halfhand
forgot to ask the OP is he got the guns and trained his dog to attack on command before or after the incident if before it seems like your armed to the teeth for someone out in the sticks on a quiet road and you seem to keep wanting to express how prepared you are for this (or any) intruder to return... perhaps you are spooked by this incident, but if your feeling this way sometimes just in general you may just have some paranioa issues ..only say this because you seem really stressed bro! -dont get me wrong that would stress anyone! one thing I do know is this sort of stress and guns are a bad combo so please be careful!
Sadonis
First, I'm not armed to the teeth with guns and a vicious dog because I feel threatened..I shoot in recreation and my dog grew up like that. He is naturally aggressive with people he doesn't know, and he is a great tracker.


Second, I rarely see owls out here..in fact I haven't seen an owl out here at all. I've seen a few hawks(which is why owls aren't out here), but hawks don't fly around in darkness since they hunt in the morning...easier to spot food.

Thirdly, about the bigfoot thing. I personally don't believe in bigfoot...it generates money for certain areas of the US, and keeping the tale alive keeps them in business.



It's easy to fool one man, but it is even easier to fool one-thousand simple men.


Also...I still don't get how he could've hidden. If he is as big as people claim he is, the few trees behind my house are out of the question. Unless he has the uncanny ability to slide down 40ft of granite and not break a bone, bigfoot couldn't have been what I saw.



Atm..I really just don't care about the incident anymore. I'll keep my eyes out, but nothing has happened today and no one has been talking about any sightings in the neighborhood.
Zombie Boy
i'm thinkin mothman.
Almighty89
Ok, so first of all..... what kind of dog do you have?
A super bionic dog or what?
It sounds like a K9 dog, and I doubt you have one, trained and everything.
It attacks everything that moves unless you tell him not too, it whines if it smells something...
Does he talk too?
You know, the movie Lassie....was a movie, not reality.

Also, why would your neighbor come out and see you outside at 2 in the morning?
You said they heard you.
How? And even if they did, I don't know many people who would go outside because they heard their neighbor walking in their backyard at 2 in the morning.
Maybe.... the stalker is your neighbor, it makes perfect sense. tongue.gif
earthchick
QUOTE(Sadonis @ Jan 6 2007, 02:17 AM) [snapback]1489374[/snapback]
but hawks don't fly around in darkness since they hunt in the morning...easier to spot food.


Nighthawks fly and hunt at night.


I've been thinking the same thing as BlackDeath. Just how well do you know your neighbours?
Sadonis
First, the dog is a trained bloodhound. I trained him to attack when told, but not the scent capturing "trick". Most hunting dogs are innately able to find scents...the whining is a way of telling you that they have a scent at all.

I never said my dog will attack everything unless I tell him. I believe I said, not quoted directly, that he will attack people hostile to him or me. He knows when someone is threatening me if he is near the event. The only reason he would do it when told is if he knows the person and doesn't find them a threat..but I do. Doesn't have to be a super bionic dog, you just have to be patient and train them for a year or more. Dogs aren't stupid, but they ARE simple minded.


And perhaps you didn't read? I said they probably came out because I was walking through leaves...which can make an annoying crackling noise that can be heard through walls...keep in mind these walls aren't 3 inch thick and made out of brick. And it would only be normal to walk outside when you here someone walking around outside at 2 in the morning. They have windows, they saw me and came out to ask what was going on.

Also..they are my neighbors. I know them well because I live next to them and often invite them over for drinks. And if my neighbor is stalking me..which one? Both of them seem completely fine to me, drunk and sober alike.



I also find your "sarcasm" a little cynical. "Does he talk too?"


I'm not stupid, but I don't know what you're trying to point towards.




EDIT: Reply to above poster.

Night hawks are generally THOUGHT to fly at night to hunt..but that isn't the case.

They are called Night hawks not because they hunt at night, but because you can sometimes see them flying at night doing crazy dances and screeching.

I can assure you I heard no screeching..the window WAS open.

Night hawks are not nocturnal animals with habits to fit. Besides...even night hawks would be asleep by 2:30 in the morning. They DO sleep at night you know..they're awake and hunting in the morning.
darkninja
Just sounds like someone trying to check out your house to see if anyone was home or something. I've snuck around before and no matter how hard you think it is to slip away from your house unnoticed, if the person did a little recon, i'm sure he/she/"it" could have easily found a way to slip away! thumbsup.gif

As for your dog not getting a scent, if this person did do some good recon, they would know that you had a dog. And what ever their plan, if they knew you had a dog and wanted to slip away unnoticed, they would take the precaution to get some scent blocking agent. Available at almost any hunting supply store.

Scent Blockers
Barek Halfhand



did the dog seemed scared or aggressive that night?.....................B
Almighty89
I was just saying that your experience doesn't really make sense and sounds really far-fetched.
earthchick
QUOTE(Sadonis @ Jan 6 2007, 05:56 AM) [snapback]1489496[/snapback]
Night hawks are generally THOUGHT to fly at night to hunt..but that isn't the case.

They are called Night hawks not because they hunt at night, but because you can sometimes see them flying at night doing crazy dances and screeching.

I can assure you I heard no screeching..the window WAS open.

Night hawks are not nocturnal animals with habits to fit. Besides...even night hawks would be asleep by 2:30 in the morning. They DO sleep at night you know..they're awake and hunting in the morning.


The reason they fly at night is really a moot point. The point is that they do fly at night. They hunt/feed just before dawn and at dusk, when it is not quite light out yet, but they will at times hunt on a very bright moonlit night as well. We have quite a few of them around here and I often watch them picking off moths at night. They also like to hang around our yard lights where most of the moths are and I've seen them doing this well after 2:00 a.m. before. No matter.....you would know if they are around at night where you live, and if you say they aren't I believe you.
coldethyl
Well you wouldn't have seen any owls around because they hunt at night. They come out at night.

I'm not trying to be rude here, but dismissing the bird/owl theory just seems kind of foolish.
crouton
I have to agree with Coldethyl. There are owls where I live. I have never actually seen them, but I know they're there because I have heard them.

That said, I have absolutely no idea what it was you saw. My advice would be to keep a look out for more strange activity, and maybe set up a discrete trap of some sort.
boorite
QUOTE(crouton @ Jan 8 2007, 01:03 PM) [snapback]1492639[/snapback]
...maybe set up a discrete trap of some sort.


That reminds me: does anyone know an easy way to get punji sticks out of a neighbor kid?
coldethyl
QUOTE(boorite @ Jan 8 2007, 02:45 PM) [snapback]1492684[/snapback]
That reminds me: does anyone know an easy way to get punji sticks out of a neighbor kid?


LOL, Vaseline?
~Onyx~
Well, since the O.P. has ruled-out anything and everything of a mundane nature, I would be very interested to hear what YOU think it was(The O.P., that is).
boorite
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jan 8 2007, 01:46 PM) [snapback]1492685[/snapback]
LOL, Vaseline?


Or perhaps AstroGlide.
Crimsai
You could try getting CCTV cameras put up around your house and you did say there is a Forest near you maybe they don't usually comeout.

What if they wer Ninja's? they could come close to your house and get away quickly. There could be a drug in your water supply that causes mass Hysteria and illusions. could be why your dog reacted as well. does he drink the same water that you do?
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