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JC316
First let me say that I do believe in the paranormal and "ghosts", if you want to call them that. I don't think "ghosts" are the spirits of dead people and I don't think death has ANYTHING to do with these entities. I have seen entities both scary and friendly (and no I don't take drugs of any kind) and I have formulated my own theory on what they are.

I beleive that the are 3 (or more) "planes" of existance, each located on earth and in the same space that we occupy. There is the positive plane, the middle plane and the negative plane. The beings that occupy these planes are what we see and call "ghosts" or things we chalk up as your eyes playing tricks on you.

The planes are like light frequencies or radio waves, they occupy the space that we are in, yet we cannot see them or feel them, but they are there. Now, on to how you percieve these planes. When a person is happy, the brain emits waves that are short, fast, and frequent. When someone is angry, the brain emits long slow waves.

I think that these planes I speak of are in the same order. Have you ever noticed that when you see "ghosts" or get that creepy feeling, that your mood is generally bad, or you are stressed out? Or when you see things that don't scare you, you are happy? I think that whatever you brain is feeling moves your perception closer to the corresponding plane, now thats not all it takes. Obviously, there are other factors such as your willingness to accpet something thats not "science" or "logic" and the psysic abiltiy of the entitiy in question. Now on to the planes and the beings themsleves.


Lets start with the negative plane.

The negative plane is nothing but the worst kind of emotions. Fear, anger, pain, depression, and stress. This is what is considered normal on this plane, so naturally thats what the beings occupying it are going to project. That is the reason why you can get angry or depressed just being in a particular place and thats why the things you see are generally scary. It's also the reason why that people are naturally afraid of something that dosen't even threaten you, like a "ghost"

With the world being such a stressed out and angry place, it's no wonder that the "ghost" sightings are so frequent.

I have seen the beings that occupy this plane and I can describe a few of them. Most are BLACK, blacker than a shadow, they appear to be the darkness shifting and you can only see the outline of them. I have seen a HULKING brute around 7 feet tall and heavily muscled, I have also seen a smaller "child". I have only seen ONE in color and I was very small and I had just woke up (I think the brain shuts off the logic when you sleep making you more acceptable to seeing things). I was roughly 4 feet tall and looked was dressed like a perot clown, since I was only 7, it scared the piss outta me.

How to combat them:

I use the name of God and summon the Arkangel Michael to take them away and it works every time.



The Middle plane:

This is our existence, everyday life is the middle plane. We can be both happy and angry, but never to the point to where it's all your life is.


The Positive plane:

The positive plane is the happiest place you can find. It's the exact oppisite of the negative plane, only the happiest emmotions are here.
Have you ever had a place that just makes you happy to be in? No matter what is happening, you can just go there and be happy? Thats because the positive beings are there.

The way the world is, not many people see these creatures, but when you do, you won't be afraid of them in the least.

I have seen several of these beings as well.

I have seen a small white thing that is roughly the size of a cat. It seems to be very nervous as I only catch glimpses of it. I have also seen a small creature that bears a likeness to a lizard.



Like I said before, I do not drink and I don't take drugs of any kind. I am not alone in seeing these things or believing in them. There are 6 people all coming up with the EXACT same descriptions and without prompting or coaching of ANY kind from the other people.

You can take this anyway you please, some will try to shoot it full of holes and some might even call me crazy, but this is just my take on the paranormal. If you read this far, thanks for reading.




Jack Black
One of the more interesting theorys i have read, is there any evidence to support your theorys?
JC316
Nope, no evidence. I mean, yes there is evidence about the brain frequencies when happy or sad, but when it comes to planes, it's just my personal experiences.

Since it's not a mainstream theory I have no studies to prove or disprove it. I am glad you found it interesting.
Isis-69
QUOTE(JC316 @ Jan 5 2007, 08:53 AM) [snapback]1487690[/snapback]
First let me say that I do believe in the paranormal and "ghosts", if you want to call them that. I don't think "ghosts" are the spirits of dead people and I don't think death has ANYTHING to do with these entities. I have seen entities both scary and friendly (and no I don't take drugs of any kind) and I have formulated my own theory on what they are.

I beleive that the are 3 (or more) "planes" of existance, each located on earth and in the same space that we occupy. There is the positive plane, the middle plane and the negative plane. The beings that occupy these planes are what we see and call "ghosts" or things we chalk up as your eyes playing tricks on you.

The planes are like light frequencies or radio waves, they occupy the space that we are in, yet we cannot see them or feel them, but they are there. Now, on to how you percieve these planes. When a person is happy, the brain emits waves that are short, fast, and frequent. When someone is angry, the brain emits long slow waves.


I think that these planes I speak of are in the same order. Have you ever noticed that when you see "ghosts" or get that creepy feeling, that your mood is generally bad, or you are stressed out? Or when you see things that don't scare you, you are happy? I think that whatever you brain is feeling moves your perception closer to the corresponding plane, now thats not all it takes. Obviously, there are other factors such as your willingness to accpet something thats not "science" or "logic" and the psysic abiltiy of the entitiy in question. Now on to the planes and the beings themsleves.
Lets start with the negative plane.

The negative plane is nothing but the worst kind of emotions. Fear, anger, pain, depression, and stress. This is what is considered normal on this plane, so naturally thats what the beings occupying it are going to project. That is the reason why you can get angry or depressed just being in a particular place and thats why the things you see are generally scary. It's also the reason why that people are naturally afraid of something that dosen't even threaten you, like a "ghost"

With the world being such a stressed out and angry place, it's no wonder that the "ghost" sightings are so frequent.

I have seen the beings that occupy this plane and I can describe a few of them. Most are BLACK, blacker than a shadow, they appear to be the darkness shifting and you can only see the outline of them. I have seen a HULKING brute around 7 feet tall and heavily muscled, I have also seen a smaller "child". I have only seen ONE in color and I was very small and I had just woke up (I think the brain shuts off the logic when you sleep making you more acceptable to seeing things). I was roughly 4 feet tall and looked was dressed like a perot clown, since I was only 7, it scared the piss outta me.

How to combat them:

I use the name of God and summon the Arkangel Michael to take them away and it works every time.
The Middle plane:

This is our existence, everyday life is the middle plane. We can be both happy and angry, but never to the point to where it's all your life is.
The Positive plane:

The positive plane is the happiest place you can find. It's the exact oppisite of the negative plane, only the happiest emmotions are here.
Have you ever had a place that just makes you happy to be in? No matter what is happening, you can just go there and be happy? Thats because the positive beings are there.

The way the world is, not many people see these creatures, but when you do, you won't be afraid of them in the least.

I have seen several of these beings as well.

I have seen a small white thing that is roughly the size of a cat. It seems to be very nervous as I only catch glimpses of it. I have also seen a small creature that bears a likeness to a lizard.
Like I said before, I do not drink and I don't take drugs of any kind. I am not alone in seeing these things or believing in them. There are 6 people all coming up with the EXACT same descriptions and without prompting or coaching of ANY kind from the other people.

You can take this anyway you please, some will try to shoot it full of holes and some might even call me crazy, but this is just my take on the paranormal. If you read this far, thanks for reading.


Now that was a nice way of explaining something. I'm not as good with words, because english is not my native language, but it comes down to: 'like begets like'!
If you are positive, you attract positivity on the spiritual plane as well as on earth; hence you are surrounded with likemindet who have the same experiences as you. I experienced this as well. If you are negative, you attract negativity on all levels. I call the things I sense or feel or see spirits, not ghosts. Spirits do not need to be decesed people. They can be angels or other kind of spiritual beings. But I only 'see' them clearely in my dreams...
If I in a negative place or near negative people, I become clostorphobic ( I HOPE I SPELLED THAT RIGHT).
I also call on the arkangels to support if I feel uneasy or I just pray: it always works!
If I'm in a happy place, I feel like crying, but from happiness...!
Don't mind the sceptics. They simply have not had this experiences that we, including many others had, hence they don't know!
Concider yourself blessed...
JC316
In a nutshell, you hit the nail on the head. Also in dreams, I think it is actually psysic visions. I have had several people that cant see without glasses see things clearly in the middle of the night. They were in that "place" were you are still asleep, yet you can still process what you are seeing.


I don't know of any logic that can figure that one out. How you can see clearly and be awake, yet require glasses any other time.
Robert1
I agree with ledley in saying it's one of the more interesting theories I've read. I don't
really believe in such things, but it's interesting all the same.
coldethyl
QUOTE(Isis-69 @ Jan 5 2007, 01:43 PM) [snapback]1488406[/snapback]
Don't mind the sceptics. They simply have not had this experiences that we, including many others had, hence they don't know!
Concider yourself blessed...


Firestarter much?
Robert1
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jan 5 2007, 03:23 PM) [snapback]1488475[/snapback]
Firestarter much?

I know your post wasn't directed at me, but I don't understand it. Is it in reference to
something? I'm a little confused. Can you explain it please?
coldethyl
QUOTE(Robert1 @ Jan 5 2007, 03:07 PM) [snapback]1488556[/snapback]
I know your post wasn't directed at me, but I don't understand it. Is it in reference to
something? I'm a little confused. Can you explain it please?


I was just noting how inflammatory the post about skeptics was. Like she was trying to wind up skeptics even though not one person had said anything negative in the thread. thumbsup.gif






edited to change the word post to thread
NatureGirl
I too have similar beliefs, but I do think that "ghosts" can sometimes be those who have passed on but they are just on another plane, or demension. So basically it would be like Hell, Earth and Heaven? Bad, Medium and Good?
What about the huantings of houses that have had a tragic event? Are these "ghosts" on the bad plane?
JC316
QUOTE(NatureGirl @ Jan 5 2007, 09:19 PM) [snapback]1488578[/snapback]
I too have similar beliefs, but I do think that "ghosts" can sometimes be those who have passed on but they are just on another plane, or demension. So basically it would be like Hell, Earth and Heaven? Bad, Medium and Good?
What about the huantings of houses that have had a tragic event? Are these "ghosts" on the bad plane?



Well since something tragic happened, only the negative emotions were left, which could have "thinned" the fabric of our plane in that area. it could also be a physicly strong being on their plane. I don't think the other beings are aware of us any more than we are aware of them and when we resonate with them, they are just as shocked as we are. That would explain why the white thing I see is so nervous.

What we call "ghosts" are acutally nothing more than a creature from the negative plane.
Isis-69
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jan 5 2007, 09:13 PM) [snapback]1488567[/snapback]
I was just noting how inflammatory the post about skeptics was. Like she was trying to wind up skeptics even though not one person had said anything negative in the thread. thumbsup.gif
edited to change the word post to thread


Sorry, but I was simply refering to his statement that people might say he is mad.
Nothing 'inflamatory' ment here, and I hope, I did not use some 'plain words' again, which people use for other reasons...like insulting each other!
I dont think sceptics will say that he is mad and if they had simular experiences, they would not be sceptics anymore and understand.
I dont blame them. I was there before...I also didn't believe untill I had the experiences myself.
Lady_Anvilabeel
IMO A ghost is like an imprint/recording/replay of residual energy that can sensed/felt/ seen/heard under the right conditions, where as a spirit is aware and concious, some may be trapped or grounded here, others may just visit - for whatever reason.

Lady_Anvilabeel
QUOTE(Isis-69 @ Jan 5 2007, 11:35 PM) [snapback]1488811[/snapback]
I dont think sceptics will say that he is mad and if they had simular experiences, they would not be sceptics anymore and understand.


Believers can be sceptical at times as well, even with personal experiences to go on, each and every case/account is unqiue and doesn't always have a spiritual or paranormal cause behind it.



Camaxtli
if what you say is true then when you see the things on the negative plane they are the happier of the lot for it brings them closer to our plane and opposite for the positive plane.
Isis-69
My PC froze on my during downloading this message, so I do it again...[
Isis-69
QUOTE(Anvil @ Jan 5 2007, 11:42 PM) [snapback]1488825[/snapback]
Believers can be sceptical at times as well, even with personal experiences to go on, each and every case/account is unqiue and doesn't always have a spiritual or paranormal cause behind it.

Yes Anvil, you are right. Believers can also be sceptics. A certain amound of sceptisism is healhty.
We don't always just believe. Sometimes we doubt ourself, untill we have found others with whom we exchange our experiences. Every time I start dounbting myself, something strange happends to prove to me, that I'm not mad!
Luckely nowadays people come forward with their experiences. But that was not always so. Remember how many people have been burned at the stakes, not because they did black magic, but because they knew things that others don't. Hence people became more careful with whom they talked about their experience for fear of redicule or worse.
Happy new year to you Anvil...
coldethyl
QUOTE(Isis-69 @ Jan 5 2007, 05:35 PM) [snapback]1488811[/snapback]
Sorry, but I was simply refering to his statement that people might say he is mad.
Nothing 'inflamatory' ment here, and I hope, I did not use some 'plain words' again, which people use for other reasons...like insulting each other!
I dont think sceptics will say that he is mad and if they had simular experiences, they would not be sceptics anymore and understand.
I dont blame them. I was there before...I also didn't believe untill I had the experiences myself.


thumbsup.gif

But skeptics can be skeptical without thinking someone is mad.

For instance, I don't believe in everything here 100%, I believe some things, but other things I just don't have the answers for, but I lean towards science. So I guess I'd be considered a skeptic. Also I have a mental illness so I'd also be considered mad. It goes way beyond your simple logic. thumbsup.gif
boorite
Mad... like a fox!
coldethyl
QUOTE(boorite @ Jan 8 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]1492762[/snapback]
Mad... like a fox!


ohmy.gif

LMAO! Ah, 'tis true.
Bella-Angelique
For me the best case study manifestations are those where objects are moved and people are attacked from an unseen source with witnesses. Just a visual or auditory manifestation is too easy to be faked even on a low budget.
Isis-69
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jan 8 2007, 09:44 PM) [snapback]1492752[/snapback]
thumbsup.gif

But skeptics can be skeptical without thinking someone is mad.

For instance, I don't believe in everything here 100%, I believe some things, but other things I just don't have the answers for, but I lean towards science. So I guess I'd be considered a skeptic. Also I have a mental illness so I'd also be considered mad. It goes way beyond your simple logic. thumbsup.gif


Somebody ones told me, that if somebody thinks you mad, you must be doing something right.... w00t.gif
In order to survive in a mad world, a bit of madness of any kind, makes us look normal... rofl.gif
chicano457
hi jc316 and every one in the forum
first i like to say that i believe jc316 post. i my self have expericened things of not this world. i don`t practice witchcraft or wicann or what ever is out there im a Christian so im not allowed by my faith to do those things.i have seen an Angel, my son saw and Angel when he was 6 or 7 yrs old i was reading my bible in my room when he came running and asked me dad dad did you see him. i said who he said the man shinning all white . he was playing in the living room when he saw him walking he went through the wall and ended up in the kitchen and he followed him into my room when he then told me the Angel walked through the wall and i saw nothing and to this dady he say he saw him . when i was 17 we lived in Urbana ill. we went to a babtist church and all was fine i didn`t do any drugs or smoked . one day i got home from work it was about maybe 5:00 pm and my mom was cooking so i went over said hi and gave her my daily kiss. i saw that she wasn`t done so i went to my room to listen to music. i layed down on my bed and turned on the raidio put on my headphones . first i heard the D.J talking then he put on a Bettle song i don`t remember the name of the song but i can remeber which one it is if i hear it again. as i heard the song which i have heard it before a lots of times somthing happened. its true what im about to tell you all. Well as i heard the song i heard a voice. it was not the D.J cause i could still hear the music but faintly. the voice said Satan Satan Satan i could also hear like crickets and like people speaking or demons mubleing.when i heard the voice say that i said NO NO NO i took off my headphone and as i tryed to get up i was pushed down by a hand that was graping my neck. as i laid there i felt like a person was on top of me i felt his legs around my waist but i was not flesh cause i couldn`t see him. i grabed his arm trying to get him off he was now trying to kill my i couldn`t breath i felt my room get cold like i was in a freezer i also smelled like stinch and sulpher like a million people dead.. as i tried to get him off i graped his arm with my both hand . he was warm and he had like warts. i felt his hand and fingers on my neck true its true. i was coming in and out i couldn`t breath i tried to pray with my mouth but i couldnt he squzzed harder so i i said to my self in my heart "God help me i will change i will be good "as sonn i said that that thing was gone...............its true it was not a dream i had just layed down not even 4 minutes plus being a teenager back then i could lay there for hours and listen to music plus i was wait for mom to finch cooking diner ..........i believe in God ...Jesuschrist, and HolySpirit. God had mery on me that day if not that Evil SPIRIT SATAN WOULD HAVE KILLED ME.............CHICANO457 REPENT
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Isis-69 @ Jan 5 2007, 01:43 PM) [snapback]1488406[/snapback]
Now that was a nice way of explaining something. I'm not as good with words, because english is not my native language, but it comes down to: 'like begets like'!
If you are positive, you attract positivity on the spiritual plane as well as on earth; hence you are surrounded with likemindet who have the same experiences as you. I experienced this as well. If you are negative, you attract negativity on all levels. I call the things I sense or feel or see spirits, not ghosts. Spirits do not need to be decesed people. They can be angels or other kind of spiritual beings. But I only 'see' them clearely in my dreams...
If I in a negative place or near negative people, I become clostorphobic ( I HOPE I SPELLED THAT RIGHT).
I also call on the arkangels to support if I feel uneasy or I just pray: it always works!
If I'm in a happy place, I feel like crying, but from happiness...!
Don't mind the sceptics. They simply have not had this experiences that we, including many others had, hence they don't know!
Concider yourself blessed...


native language or not you sounded fluent to me!..................b
Isis-69
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Jan 9 2007, 01:46 AM) [snapback]1493119[/snapback]
native language or not you sounded fluent to me!..................b


Thanks Barek for that compliment...it means a lot to me!
It takes a lot of effort, and most of the time, many EDITS...
I try to improve, and thanks to spellchecks on my PC, I hope I'm not doing to bad! original.gif
Isis-69
QUOTE(chicano457 @ Jan 9 2007, 01:29 AM) [snapback]1493093[/snapback]
hi jc316 and every one in the forum
first i like to say that i believe jc316 post. i my self have expericened things of not this world. i don`t practice witchcraft or wicann or what ever is out there im a Christian so im not allowed by my faith to do those things.i have seen an Angel, my son saw and Angel when he was 6 or 7 yrs old i was reading my bible in my room when he came running and asked me dad dad did you see him. i said who he said the man shinning all white . he was playing in the living room when he saw him walking he went through the wall and ended up in the kitchen and he followed him into my room when he then told me the Angel walked through the wall and i saw nothing and to this dady he say he saw him . when i was 17 we lived in Urbana ill. we went to a babtist church and all was fine i didn`t do any drugs or smoked . one day i got home from work it was about maybe 5:00 pm and my mom was cooking so i went over said hi and gave her my daily kiss. i saw that she wasn`t done so i went to my room to listen to music. i layed down on my bed and turned on the raidio put on my headphones . first i heard the D.J talking then he put on a Bettle song i don`t remember the name of the song but i can remeber which one it is if i hear it again. as i heard the song which i have heard it before a lots of times somthing happened. its true what im about to tell you all. Well as i heard the song i heard a voice. it was not the D.J cause i could still hear the music but faintly. the voice said Satan Satan Satan i could also hear like crickets and like people speaking or demons mubleing.when i heard the voice say that i said NO NO NO i took off my headphone and as i tryed to get up i was pushed down by a hand that was graping my neck. as i laid there i felt like a person was on top of me i felt his legs around my waist but i was not flesh cause i couldn`t see him. i grabed his arm trying to get him off he was now trying to kill my i couldn`t breath i felt my room get cold like i was in a freezer i also smelled like stinch and sulpher like a million people dead.. as i tried to get him off i graped his arm with my both hand . he was warm and he had like warts. i felt his hand and fingers on my neck true its true. i was coming in and out i couldn`t breath i tried to pray with my mouth but i couldnt he squzzed harder so i i said to my self in my heart "God help me i will change i will be good "as sonn i said that that thing was gone...............its true it was not a dream i had just layed down not even 4 minutes plus being a teenager back then i could lay there for hours and listen to music plus i was wait for mom to finch cooking diner ..........i believe in God ...Jesuschrist, and HolySpirit. God had mery on me that day if not that Evil SPIRIT SATAN WOULD HAVE KILLED ME.............CHICANO457 REPENT
Interesting story! I have several experiences of this kind. I don't SEE, but sense spirits, and I dream a lot, and over 500 dreams of mine have come true, so I take them seriously. But I have several friends and aquintances that can see, and with them I have the most fantastic experiences.
Here is one that stands out...
In 1999, a 8 year old daughter of my houseowner (a twin) came running into my house:
'Aunti ...there was a black man in my room. He would not let me out. But I run past him and to you. Now he is standing outside, his arms crossed in front of his body and very angry, because he can't come in. There is a very great and bright angel standing in front of your house, and he can't come in!' devil.gif
Another time she told me, that NO bad spirit will ever enter my house, because there is to much light in my house.
She told me that if people are posiytive, they are surrounded by light. Some more and others less. Negative people have no light. If somebody is very positive, she could see their spirit as well, and ALL spirits are white with blond hair and blue eyes; including the spirits of black persons or other skincolours. She could also see, if the partner of a person was the right one for that person, providet the partner was also positive, because they look like identical twins in spirit. innocent.gif

And she was not the only one who could see that...
I have come accross many people of all sexes, ages and nations and there is always somebody that has simular experiences and see those things mentioned above...
Others could see it in their dreams...
So do I...
It's magic... thumbsup.gif
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