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talkingmongoose
I've always been really interested with the alien autopsy that was said to filmed after the Roswell thing.


1. Was it proven to be fake?

2. I read somewhere that one theory was the alien was a human who had been caught up in a nuclear blast or something. Has anyone else heard about this?
morrison1976
Its a known fake.
Pinowawa1
I just woke up, so I cant be bothered to go on about how rediculously old this news is... But I dont mind saying that it is far too much of a delicate issue to be classed as simply fake or real.

The Autopsy film published which circulated around the public for years after the 1947-9 incidents (there was more than one crash) is fake. But that film was made to burry the genuine one. At least thats what a good few critics and enthusiasts in this whole mess believe.

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2. I read somewhere that one theory was the alien was a human who had been caught up in a nuclear blast or something. Has anyone else heard about this?


You have a few things muddled up here. You need to watch the 'Alien Interview' documentary starting from part one -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtkjiFbhyXc Hopefully this would clear it up for you.

Uhh... talkingmongoose, I know your new on this forum.. welcome... but, did you even do a search on this topic? It annoys me and other members who have been on here for some time to see another topic which has been extensively discussed to be brought up again.
jacekswieca
Welcome to the forum.
It was fake and I'm sure that You will find many topics here about this movie.

Best Regards

Aristocrates
QUOTE(Pinowawa1 @ Jan 6 2007, 06:27 AM) [snapback]1489543[/snapback]
Uhh... talkingmongoose, I know your new on this forum.. welcome... but, did you even do a search on this topic? It annoys me and other members who have been on here for some time to see another topic which has been extensively discussed to be brought up again.


give him a break, I mean, I see where you are coming from, but whats wrong with starting it up again for new discussion rather than just read or resurface a topic which has probably dormant months?
ufo guy
QUOTE(Aristocrates @ Jan 6 2007, 03:57 PM) [snapback]1489680[/snapback]
give him a break, I mean, I see where you are coming from, but whats wrong with starting it up again for new discussion rather than just read or resurface a topic which has probably dormant months?


i personaly think rosswell was real because ive seen movies on it and what they found there. alien.gif
hazzard
Hi talkingmongoose and welcome to the forum.

About the alien autopsy that was said to be filmed after the crash in Roswell NM.

Here is a start and links to more info. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_autopsy


talkingmongoose
QUOTE(hazzard @ Jan 6 2007, 08:02 PM) [snapback]1489914[/snapback]
Hi talkingmongoose and welcome to the forum.

About the alien autopsy that was said to be filmed after the crash in Roswell NM.

Here is a start and links to more info. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_autopsy

Interesting. Thanks Hazzard
Jjbreen
QUOTE(talkingmongoose @ Jan 6 2007, 01:09 AM) [snapback]1489469[/snapback]
I've always been really interested with the alien autopsy that was said to filmed after the Roswell thing.
1. Was it proven to be fake?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_autopsy

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Santilli's admission

On April 4, 2006, two days prior to the UK release of Alien Autopsy, a British comedy feature film on the subject of the footage, British Sky Broadcasting broadcast a documentary, Eamonn Investigates: Alien Autopsy, presented by Eamonn Holmes. In this program, Ray Santilli and fellow producer Gary Shoefield announced that their film was only partially real (approximately five percent), and that the rest was a reconstruction of twenty-two rolls of film, averaging four minutes in length, which they viewed in 1992, but which had degraded from humidity and heat, with only a few frames staying intact, by the time that they were able to return to purchase it.

Santilli and Shoefield stated that they had "restored" the damaged footage by filming a simulated autopsy on a fabricated alien, based upon what they saw in 1992, and then adding in sections of the original film that had not degraded. They have not identified which parts are original footage.

According to Santilli, a set was constructed in the living room of an empty flat in Rochester Square, Camden Town, London. John Humphreys, an artist and sculptor, was employed to construct two dummy alien bodies over a period of three weeks, using casts containing sheep brains set in jelly, chicken entrails and knuckle joints obtained from S.C. Crosby Wholesale Butchers in Smithfield meat market, London. Humphreys also played the role of the chief scientist undertaking the examination, in order to allow him to control the effects being filmed. There were two separate attempts at making the footage. After filming, the team disposed of the "bodies" by cutting them into small pieces and placing them in rubbish bins across London.

Alien objects, supposedly items recovered from the crash site, were depicted in the footage. These included alien symbols and six-finger control panels, which Santilli admits to being the result of artistic licence on his part. These artifacts were also created by Humphreys. The footage also showed a man reading a statement "verifying" his identity as the original cameraman and the source of the footage. Santilli and Shoefield later admitted that they had found an unidentified homeless man on the streets of Los Angeles, persuaded him to play the role of the cameraman, and filmed him in a hotel.
Then Also Read:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2136617,00.html

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... Alien Autopsy, a movie about the footage, is currently on release across Britain. It stars real-life television presenters Ant and Dec.

John Humphreys, a sculptor and consultant on Alien Autopsy who has also worked on special effects for Doctor Who, said it was he who made the models for the alien dissected in the original fake footage.

His confession, 11 years after the Roswell footage was first shown, will raise questions about the role of Channel 4, which unleashed Max Headroom on the world in the 1980s and bought the UK rights to screen the Roswell footage in Britain.

The footage was first exposed as a fake by The Sunday Times, but an estimated billion people still watched it around the world.

Rather than being shot in 1947 near Roswell in the New Mexico desert as previously claimed, the film was actually made at a flat in Camden, north London, in 1995.


So I hope this answers your question on that - Yes it was a total fake to do just what it was suppose to do: MAKE MONEY.

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2. I read somewhere that one theory was the alien was a human who had been caught up in a nuclear blast or something. Has anyone else heard about this?

Actually there is another theory that I think holds more water - That the "greys" were actually an 'accident' by Germans in WWII - in their attempt to make the Super Soldier, one of the 'side tracks' that their experiments took, was this creature we now call the "Grey". If you follow the 'history' of them to present, there is an an interesting case that can be presented that makes this equally possible and I feel personally more so than their being ET's from another planet. Even using people's own encounters w/them and what it is 'they' are trying to do. But that is just my alternate theory using the same evidence out there.

Jj -
Razer
QUOTE(Jjbreen @ Jan 6 2007, 09:23 PM) [snapback]1489983[/snapback]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_autopsy

Then Also Read:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2136617,00.html
So I hope this answers your question on that - Yes it was a total fake to do just what it was suppose to do: MAKE MONEY.
Actually there is another theory that I think holds more water - That the "greys" were actually an 'accident' by Germans in WWII - in their attempt to make the Super Soldier, one of the 'side tracks' that their experiments took, was this creature we now call the "Grey". If you follow the 'history' of them to present, there is an an interesting case that can be presented that makes this equally possible and I feel personally more so than their being ET's from another planet. Even using people's own encounters w/them and what it is 'they' are trying to do. But that is just my alternate theory using the same evidence out there.

Jj -


That is the most off the wall theory I have heard regarding Greys. Got anything to back that up??? I just don't even think the Nazi's had the tech way back then to mess with human DNA.
scorpion_vuk
i saw a movie called alien autopsy and its supposed to be a confession by ray that its fake
Jjbreen
QUOTE(Razer @ Jan 6 2007, 11:17 PM) [snapback]1490746[/snapback]
That is the most off the wall theory I have heard regarding Greys. Got anything to back that up??? I just don't even think the Nazi's had the tech way back then to mess with human DNA.

Ok, well before I "go there" you already proved you know little to nothing about what the Germans were capable of and what they were doing. So because of another thread - I've decided I"m not going to become a "teacher in 'basics'" again... that one is 'enough' for right now - I suggest you do some basic research and see what the Germans were upto -

Remember this - they "PUSHED THE LIMIT" on anything and everything! From Rockets, Planes to human experimentations. They had a WAR TO WIN AT ALL COST - so do some homework first - then I'll dialog w/you - I refuse to get into another "Pin Wheel is not science" dialog. That one is enough right now - not going to 're-teach' two subjects at the moment.

Here is one key word(s) you might even just "google search" - German Super Soldier - Uber Soldier - Geraman WWII genetic experiemtns for starters. - Then note when Genetic/DNA in the US/Britian/Canada/Australia actually started and tie it in with Operation "PAPERCLIP" - there are some "dots to connect" but they are not to the extreme.

Besides remember I said:
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Actually there is another theory that I think holds more water -...
Theory being the operative word here. Plus I have to ask - why would this theory be ANY MORE SILLY then the ET-ALIEN theory?? They are both theories - nothing more, nothing less.

But do some little homework first - then we can talk.

Jj -
rapid7

Confirmed fake
Santilli's admission
On April 4, 2006, two days prior to the UK release of Alien Autopsy (a British comedy feature film on the subject of the footage), British Sky Broadcasting broadcast a documentary, Eamonn Investigates: Alien Autopsy, presented by Eamonn Holmes. In this program, Ray Santilli and fellow producer Gary Shoefield announced that their film was only partially real (a "few frames", in their words), while the rest was a reconstruction of twenty-two rolls of film, averaging four minutes in length, which Santilli had viewed in 1992 but which had subsequently degraded from humidity and heat. They said that only a few frames of the original were still intact by the time they had raised enough money to purchase it.

Santilli and Shoefield stated that they had "restored" the damaged footage by filming a simulated autopsy on a fabricated alien, based upon what Santilli saw in 1992, and then adding in a few frames of the original film that had not degraded. They have not identified which parts are original footage.

According to Santilli, a set was constructed in the living room of an empty flat in Rochester Square, Camden Town, London. John Humphreys, an artist and sculptor, was employed to construct two dummy alien bodies over a period of three weeks, using casts containing sheep brains set in jelly, chicken entrails and knuckle joints obtained from S.C. Crosby Wholesale Butchers in Smithfield meat market, London. Humphreys also played the role of the chief scientist undertaking the examination, in order to allow him to control the effects being filmed. There were two separate attempts at making the footage. After filming, the team disposed of the "bodies" by cutting them into small pieces and placing them in rubbish bins across London.

source-good old wiki- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_autopsy
Alara
OP here's the link to the video of Santilli's confession, in case you haven't seen it yet: thumbsup.gif

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...q=alien+autopsy
Emma_Acid
QUOTE(ufo guy @ Jan 6 2007, 04:51 PM) [snapback]1489714[/snapback]
i personaly think rosswell was real because ive seen movies on it and what they found there. alien.gif


Well... must be real then.
jaylemurph
QUOTE(Jjbreen @ Jan 7 2007, 02:46 PM) [snapback]1491339[/snapback]
Ok, well before I "go there" you already proved you know little to nothing about what the Germans were capable of and what they were doing. So because of another thread - I've decided I"m not going to become a "teacher in 'basics'" again... that one is 'enough' for right now - I suggest you do some basic research and see what the Germans were upto -

Remember this - they "PUSHED THE LIMIT" on anything and everything! From Rockets, Planes to human experimentations. They had a WAR TO WIN AT ALL COST - so do some homework first - then I'll dialog w/you - I refuse to get into another "Pin Wheel is not science" dialog. That one is enough right now - not going to 're-teach' two subjects at the moment.

Here is one key word(s) you might even just "google search" - German Super Soldier - Uber Soldier - Geraman WWII genetic experiemtns for starters. - Then note when Genetic/DNA in the US/Britian/Canada/Australia actually started and tie it in with Operation "PAPERCLIP" - there are some "dots to connect" but they are not to the extreme.

Besides remember I said: Theory being the operative word here. Plus I have to ask - why would this theory be ANY MORE SILLY then the ET-ALIEN theory?? They are both theories - nothing more, nothing less.

But do some little homework first - then we can talk.

Jj -



I'm sick at home today and tried to google some of your suggestions -- bad idea. All the results were for video games. Maybe you can point us in a more specific direction or give us some more information?

--Jaylemurph
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