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crystal sage
http://www.readtub.com/


The Urantia Papers (An introduction by Byron Belitsos)

"A first glance through the table of contents of The Urantia Book can be shocking: It lists over fifty names and types of celestial personalities, few of whom have been heard of on the planet heretofore. The topics covered are all-embracing in scope. Its literary style is elevated and complex—often rather advanced. In addition, the jacket of this 2,097-page book describes it as an epochal revelation to our planet, which it purports is called "Urantia" Without a doubt, this text offers a formidable challenge to anyone approaching it for the first time!

The Urantia Book was authored and presented by celestial personalities and given to our world through a method that is not wholly understood. Popular lore recounts a twenty-year process in the 1920s and 30s in Chicago of direct interaction between a superhuman commission of celestial personalities and a "contact commission" of six humans. In addition, a group of several hundred people known as the Forum, which met once a week during these years in Chicago, was indirectly involved in the revelatory process, feeding (through the human contact commissioners) not only hundreds of questions to the revelators but even comments on early drafts of the papers. The finished version, a massive tome, was first published in 1955, and more than 500,000 copies are now in print."
crystal sage
http://www.urantology.org/

http://www.urantiapapers.us/
cerberusxp
I"ve owned a copy since 1990.
crystal sage
QUOTE(cerberusxp @ Jan 8 2007, 11:16 AM) [snapback]1491553[/snapback]
I"ve owned a copy since 1990.

..What do you think about it... the information... credible??? or an interesting perspective...??
ADbox
QUOTE(crystal sage @ Jan 8 2007, 02:35 AM) [snapback]1491688[/snapback]
..What do you think about it... the information... credible??? or an interesting perspective...??


babble response:
secondary! conflicting! Occult! I dunno for real though. This is a unified world religion in the brewing. and it denies that jesus christ was a virgin birth. Either something verry good will come from this or horribly evil. for you 11:11 lovers this is what is associated with. midwayers. transdimentional little men who help the unfolding of humanity. they say are around me this isntance like behind me and stuff. creeps me out the thought. acended masters. all of this book ws channeled by mediums. 1111 angels that are said to have been the angels of the fallen who are repenting and activly helping. but to them i am just spreading fear. so i hope to see this thread go somewhere. because more worried and anxious about this thing moreso than any other.

but just to let you know i havent read it. i refuse to. not how i want to find god.
crystal sage
QUOTE(ADbox @ Jan 8 2007, 01:47 PM) [snapback]1491707[/snapback]
babble response:
secondary! conflicting! Occult! This is a unified world religion in the brewing. and it denies that jesus christ was a virgin birth. Either something verry good will come from this or horribly evil. for you 11:11 lovers this is what is associated with. midwayers. transdimentional little men who help the unfolding of humanity. they say are around me this isntance like behind me and stuff. creeps me out the thought. acended masters. all of this book ws channeled by mediums. 1111 angels that are said to have been the angels of the fallen who are repenting and activly helping. but to them i am just spreading fear. so i hope to see this thread go somewhere. because im scared of this thing moreso than any other.

but just to let you know i havent read it. i refuse to. not how i want to find god.



Don't they say somewhere to embrace your fears.. with God in your heart... and then you'll be able to see it purely... that there is nothing to fear... wink2.gif ..maybe that's why they too say go in God.. or with God!!!

Weren't most of the books...gospels of the bible channeled too???? that is what Inspired by God is supposed to mean... right???
sergestorms
QUOTE(crystal sage @ Jan 7 2007, 09:51 PM) [snapback]1491714[/snapback]
Weren't most of the books...gospels of the bible channeled too???? that is what Inspired by God is supposed to mean... right???



the gospels were accounts of christs life that were written by contemporaries or people liv ing in the first century or so after his death. The Torah, however, was supposedly told to Moses by God directly who brought it to the Israelites, which is why it has remained supposedly unchanged for 4000+ years.

This is just another example of how bogus religion is, and was just used as a means of control of the uneducated masses during the eaarly development of civilization. In order for the world to move forward, we need to be able to set aside our superstitious beliefs of heaven and hell, and work together for a better here and now.
ADbox
QUOTE(crystal sage @ Jan 8 2007, 02:51 AM) [snapback]1491714[/snapback]
Don't they say somewhere to embrace your fears.. with God in your heart... and then you'll be able to see it purely... that there is nothing to fear... wink2.gif ..maybe that's why they too say go in God.. or with God!!!

Weren't most of the books...gospels of the bible channeled too???? that is what Inspired by God is supposed to mean... right???



but there is no way for me to validate that the holy spirit is with the people pumping this material out. there is no way for me to tell is there is a deceptive agenda. behind this. i am on my toes for a reason.

and i do not fear. but you are right, i should not worry. right will be made. i have my reasons to tip toe.

i would like everyone be alert and remain in focus. thats all.
UniversalOverride
Being curious, I read it, for at least a few hours. In truth, I'm fairly wary of ay works that "state" or "dictate" realities rather than provide spiritual tools by which one can make their own mind and teach themselves. I found it interesting, but a little too straight and narrow on a wide variety of subjects, like reincarnation for example. I have friends that absolutely love it though. They're pretty straight and narrow thinkers too though. They don't really like to think and talk about things that aren't cut and dry.
crystal sage
QUOTE(sergestorms @ Jan 8 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]1491733[/snapback]
the gospels were accounts of christs life that were written by contemporaries or people liv ing in the first century or so after his death. The Torah, however, was supposedly told to Moses by God directly who brought it to the Israelites, which is why it has remained supposedly unchanged for 4000+ years.

This is just another example of how bogus religion is, and was just used as a means of control of the uneducated masses during the eaarly development of civilization. In order for the world to move forward, we need to be able to set aside our superstitious beliefs of heaven and hell, and work together for a better here and now.



From reading the accounts of Moses... he either channeled the information inspirationally or..like the burning bush....angelic intermediatories... or as we hear in modern times with Guides... spirit...angels...UFO aliens... Maybe our perceptions of what is what has changed over the thousands of years..... Did God actually walk this earth... hide behind the burning bush...or in the clouds...???

Or did Moses hear him in his heart/mind/soul... telepathy????

It's interesting... I wouldn't say that God is any further from us today than he was in the past...
These moments of en-lighten-ment...mentioned in the bible.... acheived to make Man more considerate...shed some of the dark/primal fight/grab what you want or flight responses... and to think of consequences of not nice behaviour... made them play nice... and feel good about it... and feel guilty about not sharing or caring...or being mean....

crystal sage
QUOTE(UniversalOverride @ Jan 8 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]1491915[/snapback]
Being curious, I read it, for at least a few hours. In truth, I'm fairly wary of ay works that "state" or "dictate" realities rather than provide spiritual tools by which one can make their own mind and teach themselves. I found it interesting, but a little too straight and narrow on a wide variety of subjects, like reincarnation for example. I have friends that absolutely love it though. They're pretty straight and narrow thinkers too though. They don't really like to think and talk about things that aren't cut and dry.



I think maybe all these new insights on our spiritual history...serve to teach and make us think....

I think we all have our internal BS...light/heart meter... that intuitively allows us to decide for ourselves what feels right... if it causes us to feel fear...there is something wrong... if it sooothes..makes the heart sing... there are truths...

Remember all these writings are channeled thru Man... and their filter of experiences and beliefs.... shine light thru red and you get pink...black and you get shades grey.......no matter how you dilute it ... it still has the personality... character of the recipient....channellor.....

It serves though to give you clues of where to look... change/widen your perceptions a little...

If it makes you a better person...treat others...the world better... it has done it's job...

Ultimately when the world has everything right...there will be a smile of joy accasionally on every face. and heart.. and experiences of empathic joy and kindness throughout the world..

Should beat any' feel good drug' there is out there...
DieChecker
So... is this part of an actual Religion?

Would the followers be called Urantialogists? Urantians? Urantists?

Surely they would not be considered normal Christians. Just because it talks about Jesus doesn't make it Christian.
ADbox
QUOTE(DieChecker @ Jan 8 2007, 10:15 AM) [snapback]1492077[/snapback]
So... is this part of an actual Religion?

Would the followers be called Urantialogists? Urantians? Urantists?

Surely they would not be considered normal Christians. Just because it talks about Jesus doesn't make it Christian.


from an eagles view i have a hunch its far from it. anyway lets continue to study.

The Urantia Book is a spiritual and philosophical tome that discusses God, science, religion, history, philosophy, and destiny. Sometimes it is referred to as "The Urantia Papers", or the "Fifth Epochal Revelation" or by the abbreviation of "TUB". The book originated in Chicago, Illinois, U.S.A. sometime between 1924 and 1955, but its authorship is considered to be a mystery. (See Mysterious origin.)

The authors of The Urantia Book state their intent is to "present enlarged concepts and advanced truth" in an "endeavor to expand cosmic consciousness and enhance spiritual perception". Among many other topics, it expands on the origin and meaning of life, describes humankind's place in creation, discusses the relationship between God and man, and presents a detailed biography of Jesus. The book is 2,097 pages long, and consists of a Foreword and 196 papers, divided into four parts.

The Urantia Book introduces the word Urantia as the name of the planet Earth. "Urantian" is a derivation used to denote anyone or anything that originates on Earth. Colloquially, the word "Urantian" is sometimes used to denote an individual who admires and believes in the book, but this meaning is not found in the book itself.

The Urantia Foundation first published the Urantia Papers as The Urantia Book in 1955 in English. Translations into numerous languages are available and several new translations are in process. In 2001, Urantia Foundation lost the U.S. copyright to the English version in a court decision and it went into the public domain. Complete, free audio versions and searchable editions of The Urantia Book are available on the internet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urantia
cerberusxp
It's big flippin book alright I've read most of it. What I think about it? Well to me it's just more information. I got some little tid bits out of it like "if that frog had not have made that 5' jump man would never have been". "If the wind had not of blown the lotus pollen in the primordeal soup man would not have been". Then there's the part where angels are watching over us mostly as just observers. Been a long time since I've read it.
SunnyOutlook
QUOTE(ADbox @ Jan 7 2007, 09:12 PM) [snapback]1491749[/snapback]
but there is no way for me to validate that the holy spirit is with the people pumping this material out. there is no way for me to tell is there is a deceptive agenda. behind this. i am on my toes for a reason.

and i do not fear. but you are right, i should not worry. right will be made. i have my reasons to tip toe.

i would like everyone be alert and remain in focus. thats all.


It's called having discernment.
Test Subject
ttt for more readers to post their opinions
fantazum
QUOTE(crystal sage @ Jan 7 2007, 10:55 PM) [snapback]1491466[/snapback]
http://www.readtub.com/
The Urantia Papers (An introduction by Byron Belitsos)

"A first glance through the table of contents of The Urantia Book can be shocking: It lists over fifty names and types of celestial personalities, few of whom have been heard of on the planet heretofore. The topics covered are all-embracing in scope. Its literary style is elevated and complex—often rather advanced. In addition, the jacket of this 2,097-page book describes it as an epochal revelation to our planet, which it purports is called "Urantia" Without a doubt, this text offers a formidable challenge to anyone approaching it for the first time!

The Urantia Book was authored and presented by celestial personalities and given to our world through a method that is not wholly understood. Popular lore recounts a twenty-year process in the 1920s and 30s in Chicago of direct interaction between a superhuman commission of celestial personalities and a "contact commission" of six humans. In addition, a group of several hundred people known as the Forum, which met once a week during these years in Chicago, was indirectly involved in the revelatory process, feeding (through the human contact commissioners) not only hundreds of questions to the revelators but even comments on early drafts of the papers. The finished version, a massive tome, was first published in 1955, and more than 500,000 copies are now in print."



more garbage and always more people to believe in it.
crystal sage
...This thing about Calcium is interesting....


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6. CALCIUM--THE WANDERER OF SPACE
http://www.urantia.org/papers/paper41.html
In deciphering spectral phenomena, it should be remembered that space is not empty; that light, in traversing space, is sometimes slightly modified by the various forms of energy and matter which circulate in all organized space. Some of the lines indicating unknown matter which appear in the spectra of your sun are due to modifications of well-known elements which are floating throughout space in shattered form, the atomic casualties of the fierce encounters of the solar elemental battles. Space is pervaded by these wandering derelicts, especially sodium and calcium.

Calcium is, in fact, the chief element of the matter-permeation of space throughout Orvonton. Our whole superuniverse is sprinkled with minutely pulverized
Page 462 stone. Stone is literally the basic building matter for the planets and spheres of space. The cosmic cloud, the great space blanket, consists for the most part of the modified atoms of calcium. The stone atom is one of the most prevalent and persistent of the elements. It not only endures solar ionization--splitting--but persists in an associative identity even after it has been battered by the destructive X rays and shattered by the high solar temperatures. Calcium possesses an individuality and a longevity excelling all of the more common forms of matter.

As your physicists have suspected, these mutilated remnants of solar calcium literally ride the light beams for varied distances, and thus their widespread dissemination throughout space is tremendously facilitated. The sodium atom, under certain modifications, is also capable of light and energy locomotion. The calcium feat is all the more remarkable since this element has almost twice the mass of sodium. Local space-permeation by calcium is due to the fact that it escapes from the solar photosphere, in modified form, by literally riding the outgoing sunbeams. Of all the solar elements, calcium, notwithstanding its comparative bulk--containing as it does twenty revolving electrons--is the most successful in escaping from the solar interior to the realms of space. This explains why there is a calcium layer, a gaseous stone surface, on the sun six thousand miles thick; and this despite the fact that nineteen lighter elements, and numerous heavier ones, are underneath.

Calcium is an active and versatile element at solar temperatures. The stone atom has two agile and loosely attached electrons in the two outer electronic circuits, which are very close together. Early in the atomic struggle it loses its outer electron; whereupon it engages in a masterful act of juggling the nineteenth electron back and forth between the nineteenth and twentieth circuits of electronic revolution. By tossing this nineteenth electron back and forth between its own orbit and that of its lost companion more than twenty-five thousand times a second, a mutilated stone atom is able partially to defy gravity and thus successfully to ride the emerging streams of light and energy, the sunbeams, to liberty and adventure. This calcium atom moves outward by alternate jerks of forward propulsion, grasping and letting go the sunbeam about twenty-five thousand times each second. And this is why stone is the chief component of the worlds of space. Calcium is the most expert solar-prison escaper.

The agility of this acrobatic calcium electron is indicated by the fact that, when tossed by the temperature-X-ray solar forces to the circle of the higher orbit, it only remains in that orbit for about one one-millionth of a second; but before the electric-gravity power of the atomic nucleus pulls it back into its old orbit, it is able to complete one million revolutions about the atomic center.

Your sun has parted with an enormous quantity of its calcium, having lost tremendous amounts during the times of its convulsive eruptions in connection with the formation of the solar system. Much of the solar calcium is now in the outer crust of the sun.




Would it work as an energy source?????...eg space travel????
Essan
QUOTE(crystal sage @ May 6 2007, 06:40 AM) [snapback]1662059[/snapback]
...This thing about Calcium is interesting....
Would it work as an energy source?????...eg space travel????


Yes, it's interesting and obviously no it wouldn't work as an energy source - any more than Green Kryptonite would. It's comment and utter nonsense. It doesn't even make grammatical sense! Love the bit about calcium forming the 'outer crust' of the sun!

Here's news for you: the sun is a ball of plasma and doesn't have a crust!

The Urantia Book is a con. Written to fool the gullible who want to believe it in. That's it. And frankly, I could write something like it a lot better and with at least some semblance to the real universe ....
kraken
QUOTE(Essan @ May 7 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]1663493[/snapback]
The Urantia Book is a con. Written to fool the gullible who want to believe it in. That's it. And frankly, I could write something like it a lot better and with at least some semblance to the real universe ....

Yup..I agree with Essan..[besides] its all just too ambiguous, although i would love to know about the great machinations beyond the veil of death, i can't take this seriously, so much writing...so very little said...i just can't imagine Why? 'beings' (supposedly)this advanced would want to <even>think about passing such watered down nonsense to Anyone Let alone us, since there is so little info that would be remotely of an use to any of us, even if it all turned out to be the true (which in MHO is never likely to happen).Thankyou
crystal sage
http://www.sevenfoldbooks.com/

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The night I discovered the Persian Gulf was quite incredible, I remember I was research information regarding the Persian Gulf in around 15,000 years ago where most of the area was dry to what extent Im not sure but evidence to suggest it was dry and quite fertile.

Some research seem to suggest that:

The Persian Gulf 15,000 years ago was a large area filled with forests, marshes out flow lakes and was above sea level and was a lush area.

It is quite possible that other colonies where established in the Persian Gulf further to the South beside the outflow lakes that led eventually to the Sea outside the straights of Hormuz. However it could the wake of large transport ships but I don't see the signs of ships in the area.

Dalamatia in the original thought

It seemed quite credible to me that a very early civilisation would of lived there perhaps further to the South which eventually would of been inundated as sea levels rose. Whilst search I came across this had drawn image of the researchers guess of what it would of looked like. I then open worldwind and went straight to place where I thought Dalamatia City was located. I thought it would have to be close to river or water sources. I saw instantly a possible contender and found in the first instance a 5 walled intersection which where of equal distance to each other. I looked further into it readjusting worldwind to get the best angles when I noticed the circular temple of the Planetary Prince with 12 chambers around it. I realized then that I discovered what was described in the Urantia Book.


http://www.starspring.com/ascender/dala/dala.html

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CSLewis
Hello everyone (!) Im Luis and Im new here, and let me start by saying just as a simple joke this about the Urantia Papers:
READ THE URANTIA PAPERS
MY NEW BOOK FOR YOU - God
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