Kenji Akiniwa, Tokyo, Japan
SUMMARY: The acute toxic dose of fluoride has been believed to be 2 to 5 mg or 8 mg/kg of body weight. However, acute fluoride poisonings have occurred at doses of 0.1 to 0.8 mgF/kg of body weight in the USA.
In Japan, a school-based anticariogenic program is being carried out with fluoride mouth rinses containing 500 to 2000 ppm sodium fluoride on approximately 158,000 persons, consisting mainly of elementary and junior high school children. Thus the safety problem of this treatment attracts much attention. Fluoride retention is said to be around 15 to 30% in fluoride mouth rinsing. In this paper, on the basis of toxic doses estimated in outbreaks of fluoride poisoning, the potential for acute poisoning by fluoride ingested during mouth rinsing is assessed.
Acute fluoride poisoning is shown to be caused by exposure to lower doses of fluoride than commonly suggested. The toxic dose of fluoride should therefore be re-examined.
http://www.fluoride-journal.com/97-30-2/302-89.htm
Full Version: Fluoride Poisoning
http://www.fluoridation.com/
Fluoride: Protected Pollutant or Panacea?
Are the claimed benefits of ingesting fluoride over-rated
and the risks to our health and eco-system under-reported
http://art-bin.com/art/sallstrom_en.html
Arvid Carlsson, awarded the 2000 Nobel prize in physiology or medicine, heavily opposed water fluoridation in the 1970's and wrote several articles about fluoride and fluorosis:
"It is essential to point out that enamel fluorosis is not solely a cosmetic issue. The assertion from the National Board of Health and Welfare that enamel fluorosis, from a medical point of view, is a harmless symptom, can not be supported. Swedish as well as foreign studies indicate that more severe cases of enamel fluorosis are associated with an abnormally high incidence of caries. [...]."
In this context, it is worth pointing out that 'the hard evidence of the placental barrier to fluoride' (Ericsson 1970) now belongs to the history of medicine (Armstrong et al. 1970; cf. also Forsman 1974
. There is thus reason to consider the possibility that fluoride might affect our children's somatic and mental development."
"In the future, our health authorities will be increasingly engaged in the problems caused by this burden [the chemical burden on our environment], problems of very high complexity, considering the difficulty of getting a quantitative overview, the interaction between different elements etc. In our society we will need to invest more and more resources in order to keep chemical exposure down on an acceptable level."
From Arvid Carlsson, "Aktuella problem rörande fluoriders farmakologi och toxikologi" [Current problems concerning the pharmacology and toxicology of fluorides], Läkartidningen [Journal of the Swedish Medical Association] 14, 1978, p. 1388-1392....
Fluoride: Protected Pollutant or Panacea?
Are the claimed benefits of ingesting fluoride over-rated
and the risks to our health and eco-system under-reported
http://art-bin.com/art/sallstrom_en.html
Arvid Carlsson, awarded the 2000 Nobel prize in physiology or medicine, heavily opposed water fluoridation in the 1970's and wrote several articles about fluoride and fluorosis:
"It is essential to point out that enamel fluorosis is not solely a cosmetic issue. The assertion from the National Board of Health and Welfare that enamel fluorosis, from a medical point of view, is a harmless symptom, can not be supported. Swedish as well as foreign studies indicate that more severe cases of enamel fluorosis are associated with an abnormally high incidence of caries. [...]."
In this context, it is worth pointing out that 'the hard evidence of the placental barrier to fluoride' (Ericsson 1970) now belongs to the history of medicine (Armstrong et al. 1970; cf. also Forsman 1974
. There is thus reason to consider the possibility that fluoride might affect our children's somatic and mental development.""In the future, our health authorities will be increasingly engaged in the problems caused by this burden [the chemical burden on our environment], problems of very high complexity, considering the difficulty of getting a quantitative overview, the interaction between different elements etc. In our society we will need to invest more and more resources in order to keep chemical exposure down on an acceptable level."
From Arvid Carlsson, "Aktuella problem rörande fluoriders farmakologi och toxikologi" [Current problems concerning the pharmacology and toxicology of fluorides], Läkartidningen [Journal of the Swedish Medical Association] 14, 1978, p. 1388-1392....
http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/showflat....1&Main=3587
Fluoride-Related Symptoms
* Weight loss, chronic fatigue not alleviated by rest, general weakness, depression
* Headaches, bone, joint and muscle pain, muscle spasms
* Brittle bones and teeth, tinnitus
* Anemia, acidosis, reddish spots on skin, slight bleeding from nose lining
* Blurred vision, dizziness, poor balance, numbness and tingling of extremities
* Depression, difficulty concentrating, loss of mental alertness, nervousness
* Excessive thirst, kidney inflammation, frequent urination
* Nausea, diarrhea, constipation, blood in stools, flatulence, abdominal pain
* Damage to internal organs, and to cellular biochemistry & thyroid functioning
Fluoride-Related Symptoms
* Weight loss, chronic fatigue not alleviated by rest, general weakness, depression
* Headaches, bone, joint and muscle pain, muscle spasms
* Brittle bones and teeth, tinnitus
* Anemia, acidosis, reddish spots on skin, slight bleeding from nose lining
* Blurred vision, dizziness, poor balance, numbness and tingling of extremities
* Depression, difficulty concentrating, loss of mental alertness, nervousness
* Excessive thirst, kidney inflammation, frequent urination
* Nausea, diarrhea, constipation, blood in stools, flatulence, abdominal pain
* Damage to internal organs, and to cellular biochemistry & thyroid functioning
" http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts11.html
How can fluoride, hydrogen fluoride, and fluorine affect my health?
Small amounts of fluoride help prevent tooth cavities, but high levels can harm your health. In adults, exposure to high levels of fluoride can result in denser bones. However, if exposure is high enough, these bones may be more fragile and brittle and there may be a greater risk of breaking the bone. In animals, exposure to extremely high doses of fluoride can result in decreased fertility and sperm and testes damage.
Fluorine and hydrogen fluoride are very irritating to the skin, eyes, and respiratory tract. At high levels, such as may occur through exposure from an industrial accident, hydrogen fluoride may also damage the heart."
For....
http://www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPromotion/fluoride.html
http://www.adha.org/oralhealth/fluoride_facts.htm
http://www.fluorideinfo.org/
http://www.animated-teeth.com/tooth_decay/...ay_fluoride.htm
http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/21487
http://www.wda.org/public/consumer_aware/fluoride.asp
..Against!!!
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd102.htm
http://fluoridealert.org/
http://www.zerowasteamerica.org/Fluoride.htm
How can fluoride, hydrogen fluoride, and fluorine affect my health?
Small amounts of fluoride help prevent tooth cavities, but high levels can harm your health. In adults, exposure to high levels of fluoride can result in denser bones. However, if exposure is high enough, these bones may be more fragile and brittle and there may be a greater risk of breaking the bone. In animals, exposure to extremely high doses of fluoride can result in decreased fertility and sperm and testes damage.
Fluorine and hydrogen fluoride are very irritating to the skin, eyes, and respiratory tract. At high levels, such as may occur through exposure from an industrial accident, hydrogen fluoride may also damage the heart."
For....
http://www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPromotion/fluoride.html
http://www.adha.org/oralhealth/fluoride_facts.htm
http://www.fluorideinfo.org/
http://www.animated-teeth.com/tooth_decay/...ay_fluoride.htm
http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/21487
http://www.wda.org/public/consumer_aware/fluoride.asp
..Against!!!
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd102.htm
http://fluoridealert.org/
http://www.zerowasteamerica.org/Fluoride.htm
Just be glad it is not flourine at least. The first 4 people to succesfully isolate died with in minutes, the guy to do it actually made notes though, saving many future lives.
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Just be glad it is not flourine at least. The first 4 people to succesfully isolate died with in minutes, the guy to do it actually made notes though, saving many future lives.
You're right!!!!. http://periodic.lanl.gov/elements/9.html
I also found this article... which really spooked me... I thought tea was good !!!
http://www.ithyroid.com/fluorine.htm
Green Tea, Fluoride, and the Thyroid
by Andreas Schuld
Parents of Fluoride Poisoned Children
Vancouver, BC, Canada
September 10, 2000
I am writing this letter with the intent to inform on various issues associated with the use of fluorides, especially as it relates to green and black teas, and to voice our concern about the continued promotion of green tea as a drink "beneficial to one's health" on your radio show "Current Health Issues".
Tea is very high in fluoride content. Fluoride in tea is much higher than the Maximum Contaminant Level (MCL) set for fluoride in drinking water.
Tea leaves accumulate more fluoride (from pollution of soil and air) than any other edible plant (1,2,3). Fluoride content in tea has risen dramatically over the last 20 years, as has tea consumption (4).
While in 1976 a Belgian analysis showed content of between 50 and 125 ppm fluoride in 15 varieties of tea (3), a Polish study in 1995 found fluoride content of up to 340 ppm in 16 varieties of black tea (5). A major Canadian study published in 1995 reports average fluoride content in tea to be 4.57 mg/l in the 1980's.(6)
A website by a pro-fluoridation infant medical group lists a cup of black tea to contain 7.8 mgs of fluoride (7), which is roughly the same amount as if one were to drink 7.8 litres of water in an area fluoridated at 1ppm. It is well known that fluoride in tea gets absorbed by the body similarly as the fluoride in drinking water (1,8).
Some British and African studies from the 1990's showed a daily fluoride intake of between 5.8 mgs and 9 mgs a day from tea alone.(9,10,11)
In order to understand a dose/concentration relationship properly, one needs to realize that the level of fluoride at 1 part-per-million (ppm) = 1 mg/l was set in the 40's when TOTAL intake was considered to be only about 1 mg/day in areas with fluoridated water. It was thought that the fluoridation of water supplies at 1 ppm (1 mg/l) would duplicate this intake, assuming that people would drink 4 glasses of water a day. However, average current total intake of fluorides is approaching the 8mg/day range, according to the last official data available from the US PHS (1991) and other publications (12).
TOTAL intake from ALL sources is the amount to be considered for any adverse health effect evaluation. (13,14,15)
The fact that fluorides accumulate in the body is the reason why a MCL for fluoride content in water needs to be set by the US Environment Protection Agency (EPA) - by law under the US Surgeon General. This is to be done specifically to avoid a condition known as Crippling Skeletal Fluorosis (CSF).
The MCL is set so as to only avoid the third and crippling stage of this disease. It is set at 4ppm => 4mg/liter, assuming that people will retain half of this amount (2mg), and therefore be at a "safe" level. The EPA scientists, whose job and legal duty it is to set the MCL, declared that this level was set fraudulently by outside forces, and that 90% of the data showing the mutagenic properties of fluoride were omitted. (16)
Virtually every company selling green tea advertises it's high fluoride content as "beneficial" in preventing cavities, promulgating the misleading and false data supplied for the last 50 years by the ADA/CDA and other dental health trade organizations, as well as various public health agencies. There are NO double-blind studies anywhere proving the efficacy of fluoride as a caries preventative (17). There ARE double-blind studies proving adverse health effects, at the level of 1ppm (1mg/l) in water.(18) There are no studies documenting safety at any intake level..
Thyroid Medication
Drinking a cup of tea with fluoride content as mentioned above (7.8mg) would mean a fluoride intake much higher(!) than amounts which were actually given as medication to treat hyperthyroidism (-> over-functioning thyroid) for numerous decades - in several countries - specifically to reduce thyroid activity! [(2 -10 mg NaF/day => 0.9mg - 4.5mg F-)] (19,20,21,22)
In the 1930's May reported having _successfully_ treated 1,158 hyperthyroid patients within 6 years with either sodium fluoride or fluorothyrosine, given per mouth. Among products later released on the market were Pardinon and Tyrosin (23, 24). Checking an older Merck Index will verify this information.(25) Gorlizer von Mundy treated patients for more than 30 years in baths containing HF (30ccHF in 200 l water). Later fluorides were deemed not "reliable enough" to be recommended as an antithyroid (26).
RE: CANCER AND GREEN TEA
While there can be no doubt as to the beneficial effects of individual antioxidants found in green tea, the same cannot be said about green tea as a beverage. Existing studies tend to concentrate on active ingredients of green tea, such as epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG), a compound that belongs to a family of antioxidants known as polyphenols. EGCG and other polyphenols are constituents of tea - especially of green tea.
However, no studies exist investigating the effects of fluorides on these anti-oxidants. Existing studies involving other antioxidants and fluoride compounds give evidence that fluorides can adversely affect the action of antioxidants(27). Thus, while isolated antioxidants may slow down the development of some forms of cancer in experimental studies, their effect may be annihilated in their complex natural environment (as a sum of the action of all the substances present).
Several reviews of available data seem undecided in their conclusions as to the inhibition of carcinogenesis in experimental animals by tea or tea compounds. Data reviewed by Blot et al. (28) suggest "at most a modest benefit, since there is considerable international variation in tea consumption but generally small differences in cancer rates...More relevant case-control and cohort studies show mixed results."
Other epidemiological and human studies have also shown varying results. In a review by Bushman (29) thirty-one human studies and four reviews were examined. Among five studies reporting on colon cancer, three found an inverse association and one reported a positive association.
For rectal cancer, only one of four studies reported an inverse association; increased risks were seen in two of the studies. An inverse association was suggested for urinary bladder cancer in two of two studies.
While lung cancer studies have shown an inverse effect with Okinawan tea, a tentatively increased risk was shown in another study, clearly indicating that more research into this matter is needed. In a recent study on Finnish men, published in 1998 by Terryl Hartman and others, again a positive correlation between colon cancer and tea intake was found. Colon cancer occurrence increased with higher intake (30).
Many available green tea/cancer studies last only a few months, and do not take into account the cumulative effects of fluoride, which is a known cancer promoter, and has the ability to transform healthy cells into cancerous ones. (1,17,35,36) For any conclusive evidence to be obtained this must be considered, for long time fluoride ingestion has been shown to _cause_ cancer, especially osteosarcomas and uterine cancer. (31,32)
Dean Burk, for many decades Chief Chemist at the National Cancer Institute, testified at congressional hearings in 1981 stating that over 40,000 cancer deaths in that year were attributable to fluoridation (33). He has said that no chemical causes as much cancer, and faster, than fluorides (34). Public health officials are quick to say that this data is not verified, which is entirely untrue, for international research as well as congressional hearings and court proceedings HAVE verified this information. (1,2,16,17,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38)
http://www.mercola.com/2002/feb/2/fluoride_safety.htm/
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Fluoride Changes The Shape Of The Enzymes So That They No Longer Fit.
Since enzymes are proteins, once they've been changed, they're now foreign-looking. The body now treats them as invaders, even though they're part of that body. This is known as an autoimmune situation - the body attacks itself.
Another way to look at it: enzymes are long-chain proteins held in certain shapes. Hydrogen bonds are the velcro strips that hold the enzyme in a certain shape. Fluoride comes along and hydrolyzes the enzyme: cuts the Velcro strips away. The shape collapses. No more enzyme; now just a foreign protein.
Collagen Is The Body's Glue and Fluoride Ruins It
That's not just a metaphor; when collagen breaks down, tissues simply lose their substance, their framework. Fluoride dissolves the body's glue simply by preventing new collagen from being formed.
DR Y gives a masterful explanation of fluoride's disruption of collagen. Not only is the collagen incorrectly formed, it is wrongly mineralized.
Some collagen, like bones and teeth, should be mineralized in order to give it hardness. Other collagen structures, like ligaments, tendons and, and muscles, should not be mineralized, in order to keep them flexible and resilient.
Fluoride mineralizes the tendons, and muscles and ligaments, making them crackly and painful and inflexible. At the same time fluoride interferes with mineralization of bones and teeth, causing osteoporosis and mottling or dental fluorosis.
Austrian and Japanese researchers both found that a concentration of 1 PPM fluoride causes disruption of the body's ability to repair its own DNA. Without this most basic cell function, cancer is promoted, and tumor growth is accelerated.
Since enzymes are proteins, once they've been changed, they're now foreign-looking. The body now treats them as invaders, even though they're part of that body. This is known as an autoimmune situation - the body attacks itself.
Another way to look at it: enzymes are long-chain proteins held in certain shapes. Hydrogen bonds are the velcro strips that hold the enzyme in a certain shape. Fluoride comes along and hydrolyzes the enzyme: cuts the Velcro strips away. The shape collapses. No more enzyme; now just a foreign protein.
Collagen Is The Body's Glue and Fluoride Ruins It
That's not just a metaphor; when collagen breaks down, tissues simply lose their substance, their framework. Fluoride dissolves the body's glue simply by preventing new collagen from being formed.
DR Y gives a masterful explanation of fluoride's disruption of collagen. Not only is the collagen incorrectly formed, it is wrongly mineralized.
Some collagen, like bones and teeth, should be mineralized in order to give it hardness. Other collagen structures, like ligaments, tendons and, and muscles, should not be mineralized, in order to keep them flexible and resilient.
Fluoride mineralizes the tendons, and muscles and ligaments, making them crackly and painful and inflexible. At the same time fluoride interferes with mineralization of bones and teeth, causing osteoporosis and mottling or dental fluorosis.
Austrian and Japanese researchers both found that a concentration of 1 PPM fluoride causes disruption of the body's ability to repair its own DNA. Without this most basic cell function, cancer is promoted, and tumor growth is accelerated.
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http://www.theedgeam.com/topics/conspiracy/fluoride.htm
Mortality in selected cities with fluoridated and non fluoridated water supplies, published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 1978 contains the following observation: "This pattern of a higher crude death rate in the cities with fluoridated water supplies was apparent for all categories of death except for those by accidental means and suicide."
International studies which have "clearly revealed that fluoride is linked with arthritis, hip fractures, cancer and other diseases, and even premature skin wrinkling." (8)
8. Health Action Network Society, British Columbia
Mortality in selected cities with fluoridated and non fluoridated water supplies, published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 1978 contains the following observation: "This pattern of a higher crude death rate in the cities with fluoridated water supplies was apparent for all categories of death except for those by accidental means and suicide."
International studies which have "clearly revealed that fluoride is linked with arthritis, hip fractures, cancer and other diseases, and even premature skin wrinkling." (8)
8. Health Action Network Society, British Columbia
http://www.hans.org/about/achievements.shtml
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A crack appears in the fluoride front
http://www.fluoridation.com/news.htm
Dr. Hardy Limeback is a leading Canadian fluoride authority who is often cited by health officials in their defense of fluoridated water. He is also a long-standing consultant to the Canadian Dental Association and a professor of dentistry at the University of Toronto.
But in an interview last week, he conceded that fluoride may be destroying our bones, our teeth and our overall health. Although he still believes fluoride in toothpaste is effective against tooth decay, he says it doesn't need to be added to our water and we may be taking unnecessary risks by doing so. "There is no point swallowing fluoridated water. The only benefit comes with direct contact with the teeth."
Limeback is currently studying fluoride buildup in the body, and his results, like those of other studies, are worrisome. "What we're finding indicates a trend: Torontonians have double the fluoride levels in their hip bones compared to Montreal, where water is not fluoridated." What effect these high fluoride deposits in our bones will have is unclear, he says, "but we know that in areas of the world where water is naturally high in fluoride, skeletal fluorosis is a widespread problem."
Skeletal fluorosis is a debilitating condition that occurs when fluoride accumulates in bones, making them extremely weak and brittle. In parts of China, India and Turkey where water is naturally high in fluoride, residents tend to age early and die before the age of 50, weak, arthritic and hunched over. "Old" men of 30 drag themselves around, leaning on sticks; their bones shatter like glass when they fall. Women give birth to dead babies after pregnancies of only four months.
http://www.fluoridation.com/news.htm
Dr. Hardy Limeback is a leading Canadian fluoride authority who is often cited by health officials in their defense of fluoridated water. He is also a long-standing consultant to the Canadian Dental Association and a professor of dentistry at the University of Toronto.
But in an interview last week, he conceded that fluoride may be destroying our bones, our teeth and our overall health. Although he still believes fluoride in toothpaste is effective against tooth decay, he says it doesn't need to be added to our water and we may be taking unnecessary risks by doing so. "There is no point swallowing fluoridated water. The only benefit comes with direct contact with the teeth."
Limeback is currently studying fluoride buildup in the body, and his results, like those of other studies, are worrisome. "What we're finding indicates a trend: Torontonians have double the fluoride levels in their hip bones compared to Montreal, where water is not fluoridated." What effect these high fluoride deposits in our bones will have is unclear, he says, "but we know that in areas of the world where water is naturally high in fluoride, skeletal fluorosis is a widespread problem."
Skeletal fluorosis is a debilitating condition that occurs when fluoride accumulates in bones, making them extremely weak and brittle. In parts of China, India and Turkey where water is naturally high in fluoride, residents tend to age early and die before the age of 50, weak, arthritic and hunched over. "Old" men of 30 drag themselves around, leaning on sticks; their bones shatter like glass when they fall. Women give birth to dead babies after pregnancies of only four months.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rXaTpBHVQek
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CDx5C_6Rf24&...feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3y8uwtxrHo&...feature=related
In this video, award-winning journalist Christopher Bryson examines one of the great secret narratives of the industrial era; how a grim workplace poison and the most damaging environmental pollutant of the cold war was added to our drinking water and toothpaste.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CDx5C_6Rf24&...feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3y8uwtxrHo&...feature=related
In this video, award-winning journalist Christopher Bryson examines one of the great secret narratives of the industrial era; how a grim workplace poison and the most damaging environmental pollutant of the cold war was added to our drinking water and toothpaste.
Flouride has always been a big topic for conspiracy theorists, and this is not new news by any means. There are arguments that are very convincing on both sides of the issue. It's one of those topics that we aren't quite smart enough to know the truth, so you get lots of so called "experts" running tests and guessing about the negative and positive effects of the substance.
It's kinda like the "what causes/prevents cancer" debate...lots of theories, and no one knows the whole truth. (shrug) I used flouride my whole life, I got nice teeth, haven't been poisoned, and I rarely get cavaties.
It's kinda like the "what causes/prevents cancer" debate...lots of theories, and no one knows the whole truth. (shrug) I used flouride my whole life, I got nice teeth, haven't been poisoned, and I rarely get cavaties.
QUOTE (cpjason @ Feb 2 2008, 03:44 PM)
Flouride has always been a big topic for conspiracy theorists, and this is not new news by any means. There are arguments that are very convincing on both sides of the issue. It's one of those topics that we aren't quite smart enough to know the truth, so you get lots of so called "experts" running tests and guessing about the negative and positive effects of the substance.
It's kinda like the "what causes/prevents cancer" debate...lots of theories, and no one knows the whole truth. (shrug) I used flouride my whole life, I got nice teeth, haven't been poisoned, and I rarely get cavaties.
It's kinda like the "what causes/prevents cancer" debate...lots of theories, and no one knows the whole truth. (shrug) I used flouride my whole life, I got nice teeth, haven't been poisoned, and I rarely get cavaties.
I am getting spooked about drinking tea now.... 
...but maybe the content is so high because it is made with fluoridated water!!!All we can do is take a good look at all the information available ...and make our own choices...
Here's another interesting site...
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http://www.deadwater.info/index.htm
there is an easy way to neutralize fluoride ions, all it takes is a soluble calcium salt, which can be produced from eggshells and vinegar.
http://www.notsmoking.eu/minerals.htm#copper
The "folk" remedy for calcium deficiency is eggshells and vinegar. In the old days it was given to pregnant women to preserve their teeth.
Eggshells were placed in a jar and vinegar was poured in it.
After a day or two all vinegar would be consumed by the reaction (provided there were enough eggshells) and you could drink that liquid.
The taste of that liquid is rather harsh, to improve it people were using wine, or apple cider, or balsamic vinegar.
This form of calcium is safer than carbonate, however, since body requires magnesium for proper calcium metabolism, you should take magnesium supplements separately if you use this form of calcium for supplementation.
If you decide to try this form of calcium, you should make absolutely sure that there were more eggshells than is required for a reaction with a given amount of vinegar.
This way you can be sure that there is no vinegar left in liquid.
There should still be undissolved eggshells in a jar after all the vinegar has been consumed by the reaction.
there is an easy way to neutralize fluoride ions, all it takes is a soluble calcium salt, which can be produced from eggshells and vinegar.
http://www.notsmoking.eu/minerals.htm#copper
The "folk" remedy for calcium deficiency is eggshells and vinegar. In the old days it was given to pregnant women to preserve their teeth.
Eggshells were placed in a jar and vinegar was poured in it.
After a day or two all vinegar would be consumed by the reaction (provided there were enough eggshells) and you could drink that liquid.
The taste of that liquid is rather harsh, to improve it people were using wine, or apple cider, or balsamic vinegar.
This form of calcium is safer than carbonate, however, since body requires magnesium for proper calcium metabolism, you should take magnesium supplements separately if you use this form of calcium for supplementation.
If you decide to try this form of calcium, you should make absolutely sure that there were more eggshells than is required for a reaction with a given amount of vinegar.
This way you can be sure that there is no vinegar left in liquid.
There should still be undissolved eggshells in a jar after all the vinegar has been consumed by the reaction.
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/MHMI/mmg11.html
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Skin/Eye Contact
Most hydrogen fluoride exposures occur by cutaneous contact with the aqueous ...
??? ( tap water??)solution. The fluoride ion, which penetrates tissues deeply, can cause both local cellular destruction and systemic toxicity and is readily absorbed through both intact and damaged skin. Hydrogen fluoride is irritating to the skin, eyes, and mucous membranes.
Children are more vulnerable to toxicants absorbed through the skin because of their relatively larger surface area:body weight ratio.
Most hydrogen fluoride exposures occur by cutaneous contact with the aqueous ...
??? ( tap water??)solution. The fluoride ion, which penetrates tissues deeply, can cause both local cellular destruction and systemic toxicity and is readily absorbed through both intact and damaged skin. Hydrogen fluoride is irritating to the skin, eyes, and mucous membranes.Children are more vulnerable to toxicants absorbed through the skin because of their relatively larger surface area:body weight ratio.
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