I would like to know if anyone reading these Forums has had any contact with a Psychic Vampire and the effects this contact has had on them both mentally and pyhsically. I personally have experienced the effects of a PV and they were very detrimental . Hope to hear........

This topic was revived pretty recently and goes into alot of detail - here


http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=31497

Could one get you w/o you knowing it?

I mean could I be being drained now and not even know it?

Just curious.

I have a feeling that it goes on all the time. Maybe another person can siphon off your energy in a symbolic sense only, or maybe a person can actually plug into your chakras and take. In any case, I'd think it would erode a person's identity to go around taking other people's "energy."

I've spoken with quite a few Psy-Vamp's and(according to them) yes, you could be being drained and not know it, but those same people also said that they prefer not to "feed" that way, prefering large crowds(Mardi Gras is a "special" time of year for The Vampyres I know) or "donors"(people who consciously offer themselves and they're energies to The Vampyre.....don't ask).

Now that you say don't ask, I can't help regardless being terribley curious about individuals who would offer themselves up to such a draining.

If you really want to know, those who I have spoken to about it seem to have a need for "servitude" much like a person who is on the receiving-end of a dominator or dominatrix, only without the physical demeaning that accompanies such a relationship........it helps a relatively co-dependant personality "belong" to something without having the crap kicked out of them. Some Psy-Vamps feed from each other....taking and then giving energy back and forth. You'll find more Sanguine(blood-drinking) donors than Psy-donors in The Vampyre Community(as most Psy-Vamps prefer to feed from a crowd as I stated previously)......the "donor" subject is a subject that's taken VERY seriously by the Sanguine Vampyre Community.

I only know about the subject from a spiritual/mediumistic view which sees every interaction with people or spirits involving energy exchanges. IMO yes you could be vamped without realising it, but you would also most likely feel it on some level, just not realise it.

The view sees that at a basic level it occurs in everyday life, can you think of someone that always leaves you feeling down or drained after being in their company? On the other hand can you think of a person who leaves you feeling uplifted and vitalised? A classic example is the person who gets into the cycle of feeding from constant drama, use drama = energy (attention) from others. None of this is considered a deliberate act, it's just how energy exchange works, it's natural interaction...

Each one of us to some extent can be vicitim or taker depending on how our energies combine/compare. If you're feeling drained from someones company then your energy has been going to them OR your energy has been supressed by theirs because they are projecting so strongly..... If you feel great in someones company then it's either a perfect balance or you're feeding from them or your energy is projecting more strongly than theirs...

Where it becomes different is when a person behaves like a vampire for energy control. I don't agree with it and IMO there are ways to stop it.

Empaths in paticular tend to have a problem with the everyday exchanges as they act almost like a sponge to their enviroment and others interactions. There are ways to block/shield your own energy field so you aren't so affected.

The boss has been asking why i keep falling asleep in staff meetings, and then can't remember doing so. Not being brave enough to reply "Doesn't everyone fall asleep at staff meetings" I have now been encouraged to take some regular sick days from my sick leave to get fit and healthy, and to go to a sleep apnea clinic. I wish i had seen this thread before. I would have loved to have seen her face if I replied. "Gee Do you think there could be a psychic vampire on the staff?"

Well if one of these things got a hold of me and i happened to find out about it, there would be some serious pain to follow for the poor individual that started sucking my energy from me.

Yeah, let's see how Mr. Vampire likes sucking on a knuckle smoothie.

so mardi gras has about 5 gay people now and the rest are psychic vamps?

......I had enough trouble trying to get answers from the The Vampyre Community as a whole, now you want Gay Psy-Vamp information? You ask FAR too much I'm afraid, lol.

I had a bizarre experience several years ago with a truly unpleasant woman. Back when I was hosting a discussion group for the town's pagans, she wandered into the group and professed expert knowledge in all things magickal, a long pedigree sounding like something from Tolkien, and invited people to her home for a ritual gathering. I didn't want people to wander into some nutcase's house, so I did some research on her background, talked to a few people where she used to live, and got nothing but positive feedback. Everyone said exactly the same thing, in drone-like fashion, but I figured case closed and let it go. I even interacted with the woman and she seemed to be friendly, but every so often I'd hear someone in town relay some information about something she did or said, stuff that wasn't necessarily good in even normal social circles. Couple years later, I get a frantic email from someone claiming to have been in her coven. I talked to the person, and a few others in her old community, and they all brought up charges against her that were everything from mean to illegal, so I started digging further (I had friends who had joined this woman's coven and I was concerned for their safety). More stories started to surface about her, including her using her coven members as unwilling prostitutes (men and women) for the town's local pervert (she would apparently drug them during one on one magickal "lessons" before delivering them). The previous positive stories I had heard from people in her old community were actually the same man using multiple aliases; he worshipped this woman and had been (supposedly) threatening members of her former coven if they said anything negative.

A friend of mine, who had been in her coven, invited me over to her place one night for a movie. When I got there, this woman was there, waiting for me. She very calmly explained she knew I was checking up on her and she was "disappointed" that I didn't trust her by now. It was the weirdest experience of my life. I'd been in confrontational situations before, when I was in the wrong, when the other person was in the wrong, or when there was a misunderstanding, even when there was outright hostility, but never had I felt anything like that night, and I haven't felt anything since. As she was calmly "explaining" things to me, I felt like my chest was tightening, my vision started to unfocus (not blurry, but just not focusin), and I felt this intense heat all over my body. It increased dramatically until my body felt like I had been covered in tiny cuts and the cuts rubbed with ground cayenne (anyone who ever mistakenly touched cayenne to their face or hands knows what I'm talking about, but this is much worse). I was completely immobilized, I couldn't say anything, I couldn't think at all, and I couldn't do anything but nod. In my head, I started screaming to myself, hoping to snap out of it, and I was able to get out of the chair, walk to the door (though it was excrutiating), and get out of the apartment where I blindly ran until I got to the park and collapsed beneath a tree. Once I was out of the apartment, the effect wore off and I could think more and more the farther I got away. Five minutes after I walked out the door, it was like nothing happened, save a throbbing headache.

Later, a friend of mine, who is a member of the Vampire Church, told me that the woman was a psychic vampire and was trying to drain my energy until I could be controlled by her, much like she did to her coven (according to reports).

I tend to scoff at magick and witchcraft these days, but whenever I remember that experience, I can't even begin to explain it. Nothing I've ever experienced in any situation was anything like that. I've been in situations where I've screwed up and I know I screwed up, but this was not the case. I felt she was a danger to people in the community (the reports from my location were from people I trusted or people I knew wouldn't just make things up for attention...few guys want to admit they were drugged and raped by an old man, for example and no one wanted to go to the police). I wasn't sure what should be done about her once enough evidence was gathered, but I never got the chance. Remember, I was socializing with her prior to this so it wasn't like this was our first encounter. Eventually, she had to flee the town due to some criminal charges brought up against her in her previous location. I never did find out what happened to her.

Its not so much that you 'offer' yourself to them to be drained it seems to me that by the time you realise what they are doing to you it can be rather late in the experience to detach yourself from them There is a bond that develops between you and and the PV and its very hard to break...the longer the relationship with them the more they actually become a part of you. If the relationship spans years the chances are you will never be free of them. I wonder sometimes that after an extended period of drainings that something of them doesn't rub off on you.
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Yeah, let's see how Mr. Vampire likes sucking on a knuckle smoothie.
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Maybe not so easy as it seems..... once a PV does some long term deep draining on you you will actually lose the wish or want to harm them........ you would actually be protective of them in a symbionic way...... even while they have their feelers in you.........

Thats a very very good point.. just how do you explain to other people , especially your boss that the symptoms you are displaying at work are from contact with a Psychic Vampire ? Who would believe that and is it covered by Medicare ? Is it a valid sick day off excuse ....... the PV has a perfect cover in that.... no one will believe you.

wow Ivy that is awful! She sounds like a real nasty piece of work...Did you have anything to eat or drink while she was there? meaning any chance she could have drugged you? If not then she sounds like one powerful PV

Sound like a case of good riddance..... what an aweful 'person' she must have been. They are out there.... this is the first one I have read though like this one..... nasty piece of work...... one thing the PV I experienced here in town had that capablilty you mentioned it got to a stage after long term exposure to this female where I 'could not form thoughts'.. I have tried to explain that to people but they don't know what I am talking about ....maybe you do?

No, I pretty much walked in and it started. I never ate or drank anything at that friend's house anyway on account of her cupboards being filled with nothing but koolaid and macaroni and cheese (she has three very young children).

Caught a show on the origins of vampirism on The historyChannel that covered this as there is a culture that actually practices this ritualistc psychic feedings on willing partricipant hosts seemed kind of a hoakey precurser to an orgy type thing, the show itself was GREAT though especially the developement of Bram stokers Dracula ,as most of us know is based mostly on vlad the Implaler but is also inspired by a female vlad counterpart :Countess Elizabeth Bathory tortured and murdered women for fun and was said to have bathed in their blood to make herself more beautiful,... we are all getting bored with these documentory reenactments but this show Rocked!..................B

That is well freaky and very very wrong of her, it's good you got away from the situation ....I've felt similar sensations from very pushy and strong spirit energies, mainly the heat with burning sensations down the back of my neck with a sudden sore head. The sensations always subside the min I leave the room or have the spirit backed/sent off...

A physically ill person is a natural psychic vampire. There is nothing mysterious about that because a sick person draws in energy to revive itself, to heal itself. On the other hand, some meditation techniques are based on energy vampirism, others call it cannibalism. But, it is not a good or a bad thing. It just is. In a way, it is the nature of energy to move from one place to another. Just like free will, anyone is capable of it to the point of beyond one's control. If one believes in a psychic muscle system, then that system has to be nurtured and fed. Some people are more conscious of this than others. One has the choice to develop one's self, or be drained mindlessly.

Yeah, but when you spend the whole time sick staying inside alone, there's not really anything to draw on. Besides, the only thing I draw in to revive and heal myself is lots and lots of drugs to put me out of my misery.

I think why the Vamp community dont like people asking questions is because they hold no real secrets. Anyone can be a "Psychic" Vampire. Some people do it without realising (my daughter used to). Psychic Vampires are unethical as they do not need to drain energy from people. Energy sources are everywhere even in the very earth we walk on, the air we breath and in the ocean, the stars, the sun. Perhaps they find people a little easier to pull from. A neat trick is to overload a Psi Vamp as they pull emergy you project and pull from the earth etc..., lol they get very hyper and cant come down for ages lol.

Ill remember this time I'm "attacked" by a psi vamp

Understand that in the 2 years that I had studied and questioned many, many people who claimed to be Vampyres, I never found ANY concrete evidence of the existence of an actual Psy-Vampyre....the same cannot be said about Sanguine Vampyres(but then "proving" that you drink blood beacuse you either just physically enjoy the act, taste, feeling..etc. is MUCH easier to prove to another than is "draining" them psychically), and I had a chance to speak to(and still do) many who would call themself Vampyre....good people, for the most part......a few are just a bit deluded(the younger ones especially).

The Psy-Vamps I spoke to said they prefer to "feed" from crowds beacuse of the different people and different emotions that are available in a crowd or group.....and almost all of them(the older ones especially) said they don't feed from one solitary unsuspecting individual beacuse of the "problems" it may cause or unecessary attention they may attract. Alot of the older Vamps I spoke to also said they usually have a "donor/donors" that they "feed" from from time to time...which I've spoken about previously.

When I refer to PSI Vampire I dont expect a creature with pointy teeth etc... Just some one with the ability to draw energy from something. The ones who draw from crowds etc... must be very inefficient or up to something as that is a lot of energy to be absorbing, even just skimming from the crowd. I guess they get a kick out of it. I have rarely drawn energy from people and usualy with thier consent when showing them how its done. I dont see myself as a Vampire as its not something I do often, although I will draw energy from elemental forces and severe weather is one of the best. Being able to control the flow of spiritual energy helps in martial arts in defence and offence. Healing is also a side benefit.

Almost forgot, how can it draw unwanted attention? They should be able to drain energy from a distance and the effect would be the host would become tired, doing it regularly would cause illness. It should not be noticable someone is doing that even in close proximity.

I understand what your saying and have heard several of the same things(especially the "healing" and drawing energy from the elements....many spoke if loving storms) stated to me by many of the same Vampyres I refered to in my earlier post.....and none of the Vampyres I spoke to had "pointy teeth" either, lol.

somehow i think when I heat up my Xbox later "legacy of kain "just wont be the same!....................B

The ability to abosorb someones lifeforce is just plain silly. There is no proof of this in any way. Other than wannabes making claims.

Best of luck to you......and Kain, lol.

Isn't staying inside alone a form of meditation? Some people believe that they connect to an energy field when they stay put, stay quiet, put their minds at rest inside themselves. Drugs are definitely a form of energy, just because they come in small packets their impact is less -- I don't think so. Drugs are miracles of this world, among other things.

I do hope you're right; however, I do not follow your opinion. It is not a matter of someone giving you the proof, it is a matter of getting the proof for yourself, even if it takes you countless of incarnations to get it. Several people have already provided you the basic map.

I would be more than willing to submit myself for this supposed ability to be tried on me.

Some people believe that certain people could actually do this, "plug into your chakras..." I've never heard of a person's identity being eroded, but anything's possible. On the other hand, most people know the affects of being drained, such as getting sick, bad mood, negative behavior, being sarcastic practically all the time, and so on. If you believe in chakras, psychic muscle system, then it is inevetable to guard it, develop it, make it stronger. They say that there are seven chakras (or more depending on one's practice), and each muscle has function in one's spiritual make-up, etc.

Is there any point at all to signing up for a forum called "Ghosts, Hauntings & The Paranormal" just to post a bunch of messages saying it's all silliness and there is no proof? Any point at all? I mean it's one thing to offer alternative explanations for perceptions of things like ghosts, but to offer nothing more substantial than "there is no proof" is just heckling. Useless and inflammatory, isn't it?

But I'll engage (yet again) what is really a stupid point: there is no "proof" because there is no such thing as "proof." There are observations, and there are explanations for and models of those observations. These hypotheses and theories vary in their capacity to explain and predict the observations. That is the best that can be done, and "proof" is flatly ruled out. This is as true of relativity or evolution by natural selection as it is of any "paranormal" theory.

So the next time one of you feels tempted to post another of these profoundly empty remarks, please try a little harder to find something interesting to say.

I know of meditation groups in California and New York, but not in Dallas. On the other hand, these groups are not about vampirism, but they deal with energy transfer, manipulation to better themselves. Vampirism sounds like a carnival act, don't you think? It's so melodramatic, as if.

Contact me directly and I'll give you more info.

I mean it in a figurative sense. I mean that one's own personality could weaken in the same way that it would if one started imitating (plagiarizing, stealing ideas from) some other person. Why would anyone want someone else's "energy?" Wouldn't it just displace one's own "energy?"



Yes, and according to theory, one of the things you don't want is someone else's "energy" in your psyche or your chakras!

I'm just guessing that if there is such a thing as a psychic vampire, it couldn't have much of its own personality, character, identity, or soul.

I lived in New Orleans for a few years. There were quite a few of these "Vampires" that hung around the fringes of the crowd. I personally witnessed one of them pushing thru the crowd (packed like you can't believe), and she bumped into someone. She hissed at this poor drunk guy who was just having a blast, and said something about sucking his soul or something similar (I was about 5 feet away I guess). At first the poor guy looked shocked, then pissed when she raised her hands and made cat claws at him. This guy punched this stupid goth vampire square in the noggin, and she dropped liek a sack of vampire poop. I laughed my ass off. So much for vampires ninja-like skills.

I think these people are wannabe goobers that need counseling, not blood or "psychic energy".

When developed, I believe the chakra system is capable of digesting the negative, not just the positive. A practitioner could take in the good traits of a special conduit, and eliminate the bad. There are techniques to eliminate the negative psychic tensions, congestions, and negativity. Then again, one has to find the right conduit. But, if one is truly sincere, the guiding forces of this universe will do their thing.

Staying alone inside meditating is one thing. Lying on the couch half-unconscious in a drug-induced haze in order to quench the nausea is something else. When I've meditated in the past, it gave me a sense of peace and relaxation. When I'm ill I can't even get to any sort of state of mind that would allow me to even come close to meditation. Unless you call saying to myself "don't think about food, don't think about food, don't think about the cat throwing up on the carpet over there, don't think about food, don't think about food..." and then rushing to the bathroom a form of meditation.

Exactly. Living, itself, is a form of meditation. One deals with what the universe has given one. When I was gravely ill, I was very grateful to have seen my situation as such, another level of meditation, a new (but passing) reality. And I gained strength and wisdom from that...

I doubt that it is draining life force as to do that you could theoreticaly destroy someones soul which I dont think is possible. Like saying drinking someones blood gives you some of thier physical traits etc... its just an energy source which naturaly replenishes, I have never picked up anyones traits by doing so....it is just energy that is used as you wish almost like spiritual food. That nuetral energy can then be altered to heal harm or whatever...

Soul no, but body and mind, yes. And they're both very important in the scheme of things. An aunt of mine died because of the constant nagging and draining by her relatives (on her husband's side). Her weak heart finally gave in. On the other hand, a friend of mine survived two major heart surgeries because of God's grace, constant love and attention, proper diet, and his will to live, (especially since he has a lot going in his life to live for). Have you ever seen children who have been nagged at for so long?

While I don't necessarily condone(as if MY condoning it matters, lol) knocking someone the hell out for being something they're not, I know for a fact that the Vampyres I've dealt with don't play the "I'm a 1,000 year-old vampire-lord who demands respect and worship and will destroy you and blah blah blah blah..." at all, and make no bones about who and what they are........The "Lifestylers" usually figure-out how much they're despised sooner or later.....just like the one you saw in the club.

Yeah a guy punching a girl, hilarious.

Glad you brought this up, consider meditation as i pass an ornate Hindu temple in my zone often .. seems meditation should also be a topic of interest for this new guy TM is probably diferent forum tho...........B

Though whenever I've been ill, I distinctly remember wishing I wasn't among the living.

Though if living itself is a form of meditation, then being home sick is nothing special in the way of meditation. It's just another aspect of living, no matter how much I wish it wasn't at the time.

Yeah, A bit harsh to say the least.....ironically, some of the Vampyres I got to know lived in New Orleans but relocated after Katrina(much like ALOT of people).....good people, all.