Bigfoot, the Yeti, the Loch Ness monster and all the rest were so intriguing to me when I was younger. Unfortunatly I've begun to realize that most do not exist. Any more in the same boat? I think that maybe there once was something in the Loch but it has long since died and is gone for good. I think bigfoot is mostly people having fun and some people wishing they saw something. Don't get me wrong, I want to believe but I guess I'm losing the battle.

Really depends on the specific supposed creature. I haven't completely given up hope yet.

I feel exactly the same. When I was a kid, I believed in all of it, now I believe in none of it.

Darn puberty.

If were speaking in terms of the "major" cryptids: Nessie, 'Ol Footy. Mothman etc.....Then I would have to say no, I've yet to see anything concrete in terms of evidence to undoubtedly support any of them.

Mothman, Jersey Devil and such, no. Bigfoot, Skunk Ape...there's too much there to outright dismiss it.

We have a winner!

The problem is that people tend to focus on 'classic' cryptids, like Nessie and usually forget about other, less extreme, but more possible ones, like the Bondo/Bili ape, which surely exists (but we're still waiting for a specimen to be captured/killed or othervise documented) and is most probably either a huge subspecies of chimpanzee, or is a completely new great ape. Still, almost no-one gives a hoot about it for reasons that are beyond me.

Bigfoot? Highly doubtful.
Mothman? Maybe.
Jersey Devil? Nope.
Nessie? Doubtful.
El Chupacabras? Likely.

I'm the opposite. I use to laugh as a child at my older brother when he said he was going out yowie hunting.

Only as an adult and living in a National park, did I start to hear and see strange things which now makes me believe in yowies.

Something has to exist that we haven't found yet, it would be pretty lame if we already discovered all there is to discover on this planet.

Just because we have more to discover doesn't mean they have to be outlandish!

im a believer!!!

I think that is exactly what keeps these myths going. It would be so cool if a bigfoot population had and is living among us. I want to believe, but I no it is highly improbable. With all the digital cameras and cell phones with digital cameras, new sightings are less and less believable (I think of the UFO over O'hare that so many people saw but none got picks).
Damn, I sound like a party pooper. Sorry.

There is nothing more outlandish than religion... Yet billions of people pray everyday and every week to something that has not been prooved to exist? Where is there any solid evidence of God?

I am pretty open minded and would put more belief in the existence of bigfoot than of God or his so called son that could walk on water..

Actually, the majority of the world population believe in Cryptic animals because they are a part of virtually every religion. Fiery flying serpents, leviathan sea serpents, Cherubim and Seraphim in the Bible, similar things in the Quaran, dragons throughout most of the orient. Thunderbirds and giant Feathered Serpent-dragons of Native America, Rainbow serpent in Australia, the list can go on and on. Some of these are surprising similar throughout the world.

Anything is possible, but I highly doubt any of the things mentioned above are real.

I think Bigfoot is the only one that maybe true myself......Nessie might be....But the other's are just to far out there for me......

If anything exists it will be in the oceans this is where there is still lots to discover.

~Moro

Moro's right the ocean's are full of stuff we have yet to discover.....But i'm still pulling for a BF to be found......

I can see something like a bigfoot being found some creatures can be hard to find! look at it this way we find new species quite often, not big species but it is very well possible.

Why do you think I refute creationism?

Yes it is...as a half NA, I have heard stories my whole life about BF....The reason i tend to think he maybe real is, We have stories and record's of BF all the way back to the 1800, plus there was tale's of this creature in alot of countries before we had the net and internation new's, It's just to jard to believe people all over the world made up the same tale with out even being able to talk or read about other place's......

b/c you're so cool.

Thousand's of people can't be lying about the same thing can they?
I really do not think so! But do believe we may have caused this species to almost become extinct do to expanding population, this may be why these sitings are so rare well atleast the ones that seem true! there are tricksters out there and we have just have to kind of weed through these sitings and stories to try and figure out what is real and what is not.

I can't disagree

YEP and you being cool makes this topic that much better!
But says nothing.

It does, doesn't it?



You want my serious remarks, go to the first page

Mass Hysteria


Many of these species are very small, or even microbial.

LOL could be but doubtfull.



This is understandable!
You only post what you wanted Frogfish!
I stated -

I am a believer! Truth is always stranger than fiction.

Beneath all tales is a shred of truth somewhere buried underneath all the propaganda...

Then again maybe I am just a sucker for a well thought out story

I believe that we have some type of primate running loose in many of the areas that claim to have bigfoot activity. I am hoping to catch a picture of it someday. I am going to be smart about it and not only take pictures of the animal but also the surrounding the areas before and after the footage that way now one claims it to be a hoax. I am also looking foward to taking footages in Lake Tahoe this summer while visiting the family hopefully catching this supposedly monster.

I hope you find something....almost as much as I hope to win the lottery.....ALMOST.

I'd rather win the lotto then spend money for an expedition.

Of course you would, and I hope you win the lotto AND find 'Ol Footy and/or Tessie (I despise that name)....but somehow, I think that your odds of winning the lotto are a tad-bit greater IMHO.

The world is big and there are things in it to amaze and astound us that we don't yet know about. The trick is finding the line between childish belief in magic and cynical adult scepticism. Stick to science and evidence and keep an open mind. There shouldn't be a battle to lose, logic says we don't know everything. 99% of stories will turn out to be hokum, it's the 1% that have something. There are more likely and exciting UMs than Nessie ever was, have a good browse around this site. Don't give up and believe only in offices and insurance, that's just the opposite end of the scale to believing in dragons and fairies. The world's more interesting than that.

I guess I believe in giant hogs in Arkansas.
I guess I believe in funny cool looking fish from the deep

well I've got to say that I lean more toward saying they don't exist, I'll say that I'm in the middle, I won't say something is or isn't without proof.

yeop, and thats enough to keep people going.

i beleave in a lot of things
like footy and the yeti are the same creature just found in different area and live high in the mountains and only come down once and a while

i beleave that the real "Nessie" died out long long ago like around the time of the first recorded sighting of st. Columbis and was a kind of sea serpent

i beleave that people should take the pure myth and magic out of things and replace it with biological explanations (dragons exp. expelled fire rather
that "breathed" it and whent extinced long ago

i beleave that cadborosaurus out of all the other sea serpents is the most likly to be found some time soon(+ Ogopogo cause they are the same creature)

i beleave that fairies are made up but look cool in Harry Potter (pixy, fairy same thing...)

i beleave that there are no dinosaurs alive today, but there are dino-like reptiles along with a newer kind of gliding reptile that looks like a pterasaur but has no relation

and

i beleave that if life gives you lemonds than you should find someone that got votca and have a party

It is the same way with dragons, they appear in every culture, but no solid evidence.

I used to think the same thing. . .then I started traveling. . .I used to live in a big city, and I figured that everywhere was like that. But, even in America, there are still places that people are rarely ever seen. I was blown away when I went to Texas to visit my family. I had never heard of someone owning hundreds of acres and stuff like that. . . Which pretty much everyone does there. My grandma used to own a few hundred acres in the middle of nowhere in southern Texas, and everything was just so untamed and wild that I couldn't help but think that it'd be easy for something to hide there. Not to mention there are several jungles and forests that have yet to be explored for the simple fact that they are just too wild for us. Besides, if such a creature did exist, I'm sure it would be in just those types of places. As for the camera thing. . .I can understand a UFO. . .if I had my phone handy, I would definitely take a picture. . .but if I saw a bigfoot, my first instinct would not be to find my phone and wait for the excrutiatingly slow camera mode to come up, it would be to run as fast as I could. Sure, I can lie to myself and say I'd be brave and stick around. . .but I'd just be kidding myself. . .I'm a total wuss.

I have done a little travelling myself Great isn't it

I am afraid that I am the opposite. I used to live in the outback, on a farm that was 2,300 hectares. Big place. I spent much of my youth exploring, mustering, hunting, even just horse riding. I covered a great deal of land in a decade.

Never saw a damn thing to convice me of a cryptid. Loved them since I was about 7. I used to go into town once a month to collect "The Unexplained" - a weekly magazine. Moving into the city areas, I find people who have spent little time on the land tend to believe in such creatures far easier. I would suppose that people get somewhat romantic about the bush. Most of the country folk I grew up around would double over in laughter at the idea of some of these cryptids running around their properties. Heck, some have had families on the land for 250 years or more. They know every corner. There is no cryptid species in any place I have been. Never even heard a Yowie wail, 2 are supposed to live nearby where I am now. Never seen them, never heard them, never spotted a single piece of evidence. Funny how the Springbrook Mountan one only harrasses Japanese tourists, methinks a small band of pranksters be behind that one

Jungles and forrests make up only a part of the cryptid domain. Think about it, where woud you look for Mothman, Jersey Devil, Frogmen, Thunderbird, Batsquatch, Ol Footy himself is often viewed close to town. Do you really think this array of creatures could live in and around such populated areas without being caught?

Gee it would be neat to see another primate like the supposed Bigfoot. Don't hold your breath though. If we can spot a little hairy lobster deep on the ocean floor as a new species, I hold little hope for larger creatures. With the exception of the Bili Ape (Chimp?) Clobhair-cean brought up the best hope of a new primate yet to be discovered.

all i know is that, if i had a camera on me.. im pretty sure i could take a steady picture of bigfoot if i ever ran into one (i dont believe they exist.)
people claim all the pictures are unclear, blurry or just plain silly because the person operating the camera was scared, or in a hurry.. yet ironically i've never seen even a FAKE picture of bigfoot being aggressive in any manner. generally he's walking AWAY from the camera. or just standing there trying to look pretty, but failing due to the cameraman's poor photography skills.

First off, let me say that the thing about the Japanese tourist is hilarious. It reminds me of my uncle putting on a gorilla suit and (ironically enough) pretending to be bigfoot to scare off some kids that harrassed my grandmother.


Most of the cryptids seen close to or in towns have been proven hoaxes. The Jersey Devil was a real estate hoax based on a local legend, things like the mothman and the dover demon had sporadic occurences for a short period of time. . .and I haven't really heard too much about frog men. There's actually been poop found in America that traces back to an unidentified primate. . .recently. . .There have also been hair samples that resembled gorilla and human, but matched neither, nor did they match any other North American Mammal. There have even been blood samples, found and tested, unfortunately, before DNA (in 1981, I believe) that appeared to be from a "higher primate".

I personally hate bigfoot because I think he's the most likely to exist. Certainly not in large numbers, and not on every large track of land, but I'm pretty sure he exists. For the most part, he's not seen in well populated areas. . .and in the rare cases where he is, we can either chalk it up to an overactive imagination, or compare it to the time my Uncle found a black bear eating out of his garbage can in the suburbs. Sure, there have been plenty of hoaxes and misleads. . .but the 1-5% of stuff from people that are serious has been really good. And even if only one hair sample came back as an unknown creature, that proves something. I think that some people choose not to believe in its existence for the sole purpose of what the acceptance would mean to modern society.

Besides, they are still finding new land creatures. Since 2000 at least 25 new species of primates were found, at least two new species of big cats, and I remember reading about a new species of wild boar that was recently "discovered". . .the thing about it is that these things usually aren't found on purpose. ..it's completely by accident, whether they have been looked for in the past or not. The fact is that there is no way that every square mile of forest can be watched all the time. . .and really, most of us wouldn't know what to look for even if we did run across something significant. I know if I saw some hair on a tree, or a giant pile of poop, I'd just assume it was from something else. It's just not as easy to discover things as people assume, especially if they're endangered. I know coyotes exist but, even while living in Texas, I never found evidence of it. . .and trust me, I looked because I had never seen one (and still haven't) and I wanted to tame one really bad. The sad thing is that they're supposed to be very numerous in the area I was in. I heard them all the time, but I could never find them. That's why I gave up trying to be a nature photographer. . .every time I went looking for something, I could never find it.

And, lets be honest, since none of us have actually encountered a bigfoot, don't be so hasty to say you wouldn't be afraid. Fear is a very basic instinct, and I'm pretty sure the "Fight or Flight" mode would definitely turn on, especially if you saw something you had never seen before, and it goes double if that something is larger than you. You can mentally prepare all you want, but actually seeing something is a lot different than looking at pictures, and you can never know how you'll react until it actually happens.

I sure hope you are right about Ol Footy. I agree, he has better backing than most. Still on the probably not side of the fence, but I plan to do some serious looking for the Ormeou one in summer wth my boy. I like bushwalking. I have walked quite some kilometers on the local mountains.
When hunting or tracking, you actually do look for piles of poop, hair etc, anything to indicate a regular pathway, then identify if the creature on it is the one you seek. We used to hunt predatory Dogs, mostly dingo-domestic crosses. They kill sheep. At the same time, you try not to kill something that will land you a hefty fine - like an Emu, so all the land owners I know are pretty good at knowing what lives on their lot.
I reckon you would make a fine photographer, just tread lightly
It is great that we still are cataloging unknown Old world and new world monkeys, but you are talking about sub-species of know species in remote places like the Congo, or Madagascar, not the good ol US of A, or my land, Oz. Great to have a more detailed understanding, but not quite as spectacular as uncovering Bigfoot or Nessie. I am not sure of the felines, I heard abut the one in Borneo, where is the other from?
Did I say I would not be afraid? I think you have me confused with someone else. If at all anything lie their purported description, they would be terrifying to meet in the wild. Still, the adreneline would be running, excitement. I'd have to snap a pic. I have been in a war zone, so my hand is reasonably steady

Its all property now, or well used. (got to love housing development and the QLD population boom over the years) If your even 1% serious about being objective go somewhere else.

Only japanese toursists too

no, psyche, I wasn't talking about you being afraid, I was directing that to whoever said they wouldn't be afraid. Wow, you live in Australia? hahaha. It didn't hit me til I read the part about dingos. I'd love to go hunting for bigfoot, but I have to say, I'm a horrible tracker. . .unless it's bees. . .for some reason, I'm really good at finding beehives. . . Not the best skill in the world, but fresh honey is always good. What's an Ormeou, by the way?

Yo, I believe that Okapis, Marozi, Coelacanth and Mountain Gorillas are still exist!












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...ah yes, they've all been discovered

I agree.

Mothman, Jersey Devil, Skunk ape, Bigfoot, Loch Ness and all the rest and no real proof any exist. Let us just find one real one and we can freely beleive in them all.

Mothman can't be easily dismissed because there are too many things about it during 1966-1967. The silver bridge disaster occurred EXACTLY 13 months after the very first sighting.