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Blueguardian
Hello everyone i would love to know your opinon on something, ghosts and the future, whats the deal iv read a few stories that tell of people seeing something a few years before it actually happens for example this is from a book called "Amazing Spooks And Mysteries" by Peter Eldin

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Accident in time
In the early 1960's a car plunged into the Kyle of Lochalsh, Scotland, and its occupants were drowned. The car was identical to a phantom car that had been seen in the region for over 20 years. After the accident the vehicle was never seen again.


the Kyle of Lochalsh is a lake or river in Scotland

what is the deal with that, what does it mean, was it a warning, was the car that seen driving into the lake a sign, was there was a chance to save them, does this mean that there is no way to stop stuff in the future from happening, can we change it, or dont we have any control over the future and fate?

how can we tell with ghosts like that which is the future and which is the past? and if it did happen again in a similar way would anyone save them or is it impossible to?

Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Blueguardian @ Jan 10 2007, 06:09 AM) [snapback]1495224[/snapback]
Hello everyone i would love to know your opinon on something, ghosts and the future, whats the deal iv read a few stories that tell of people seeing something a few years before it actually happens for example this is from a book called "Amazing Spooks And Mysteries" by Peter Eldin

havnt seen that show Maybe its only aired "down under", as for the ghosts being the harbinger of these premonitions ,hard to say i havn't made up my mind yet concerning Nostradomis being a Seer, wonder if he ever , or if a more contemporary like Edgar Cayce have ever attributed these visions of the future to ghosts or the spirit world, barely have time to read all these posts lately,so that seems like a tediuous subject to research ,but a cool one to consider!..........B





"Two days ago I saw a vehicle that would haul that tanker ,
You wanna get out of here?
than You talk to me."

Max Rockatansky MFP
Lady_Anvilabeel
That's a good question... Although with this particular story I would feel inclined to check the details of it and try get to the bottom of what is urban legend and what is truth.

Firstly, We don't know in what way the phantom car was similar to the real car that crashed. It could have been something as vague as colour or make.

Secondly, the 20 year period between the phantom car appearing and the crash happening. I doubt very much that back in the early 60's a 20 year old car from the early 40's would still be road worthy in Scotland lol grin2.gif.

There's no mention that the phantom car was described as 'furturistic' or anything...

So it's hard to know the 2 cars are infact connected or not.

Blueguardian
i checked the internet and didnt come up with anything but i guess thatg doesnt really prove anything
MasterPo
I've often wondered if at least some ghosts (and UFO) sightings are somehow people and/or objects from the future or past that have momentarily appeared in our current time. That would certianly explain at least some UFO reports (modern planes, especially military, could easily look alien 50-60 years ago!).

Some people believe time is circular: It has a begining, an end, then begins again. If so, I suppose it's possible that under the right conditions time of the future or past could overlap with the present in enough ways to let objects or just light slip through for a moment.

I haven't read any evidence of such theories but it's fun to think about at least. original.gif
Blueguardian
QUOTE(MasterPo @ Jan 22 2007, 05:37 PM) [snapback]1511022[/snapback]
I've often wondered if at least some ghosts (and UFO) sightings are somehow people and/or objects from the future or past that have momentarily appeared in our current time. That would certianly explain at least some UFO reports (modern planes, especially military, could easily look alien 50-60 years ago!).

Some people believe time is circular: It has a begining, an end, then begins again. If so, I suppose it's possible that under the right conditions time of the future or past could overlap with the present in enough ways to let objects or just light slip through for a moment.

I haven't read any evidence of such theories but it's fun to think about at least. original.gif


thats an interesting theory but in a way doesnt it make life completly pointless
MakeshiftSage
And to think all the times I could have came back to remind me to put my cloths in the dryer. Damn me ..er future me!
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(MakeshiftSage @ Jan 22 2007, 05:36 AM) [snapback]1511138[/snapback]
And to think all the times I could have came back to remind me to put my cloths in the dryer. Damn me ..er future me!

nice! salutes!
Is everybody getting funnier or is barek getting DUMMER?...........B.









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greggK
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Jan 10 2007, 06:43 AM) [snapback]1495239[/snapback]
havnt seen that show Maybe its only aired "down under", as for the ghosts being the harbinger of these premonitions ,hard to say i havn't made up my mind yet concerning Nostradomis being a Seer, wonder if he ever , or if a more contemporary like Edgar Cayce have ever attributed these visions of the future to ghosts or the spirit world, barely have time to read all these posts lately,so that seems like a tediuous subject to research ,but a cool one to consider!..........B
"Two days ago I saw a vehicle that would haul that tanker ,
You wanna get out of here?
than You talk to me."

Max Rockatansky MFP



It is an amazing thing that nobody has realized that any vision that anybody has seen of some kind of ghost, they do not have space suits and travel in saucers.
MakeshiftSage
As opposed to ghosts in spacesuits and flying saucers? huh.gif
Shankpin
This story seems to remind me too much of an urban legend- original.gif
MasterPo
QUOTE(greggK @ Jan 22 2007, 01:00 PM) [snapback]1511464[/snapback]
It is an amazing thing that nobody has realized that any vision that anybody has seen of some kind of ghost, they do not have space suits and travel in saucers.


LOL!

But as a point, when have you heard of someone seeing a naked ghost?

One theory is that a ghost is a rememberance of how the person was when alive. Most people "see" themselves clothed.

Try this:

Close your eyes and imaging yourself standing in the middle of your living room. Get a really good image of yourself. Now open your eyes.

What did you see in your image?

You probably saw your head and shoulders, maybe your arms and upper torso. Perhaps even your waste and upper legs. Most likely you did not see your hands, lower legs or feet. And you probably saw yourself wearing clothes.

That's why (as the theory goes) when ghosts do appear they most often are seen as a head and upper body, on rarer occations lower body, and even rarer times body and some part of the legs. And they are often seen wearing a dress, gown or period clothing.

That's because the ghost is a rememberance of the person when he/she was alive.

Lady_Anvilabeel
Good theory Master pro I would agree with that for spirits, as far as spirit communication goes it comes through thoughts and images or mental telepathy for the clairvoyant anyway. If they choose to show themselves then i don't see why it couldn't be a mental projection of how they liked to look or remember themselves to be when they were in the physical...

With ghosts i think it's a different ball game, if you believe these are projected recorded images of residual energy, theories for why some may appear partially, esp when cut off at the legs or head is because of enviroment changes, ie layers of residual energy within a building, if a floor has been lowered or heightned since 'that time' then it interupts the flow of residual energy
MasterPo
QUOTE(Anvil @ Jan 24 2007, 07:00 AM) [snapback]1513724[/snapback]
With ghosts i think it's a different ball game, if you believe these are projected recorded images of residual energy, theories for why some may appear partially, esp when cut off at the legs or head is because of enviroment changes, ie layers of residual energy within a building, if a floor has been lowered or heightned since 'that time' then it interupts the flow of residual energy


I disagree with the idea that "spirits" and "ghosts" are different entities. I haven't seen any evidence that they are. I think "spirits" includes more things than ghosts (the results of a person who once lived and has since died) such as inhuman hauntings. But I don't think a spirit and a ghost are two seperate things.

ps- A headless apparaition is very rare.
Cernunnos
That's exact the opposite of what is heard sometimes: an accident occured, and now the ghosts of the deceased protect future possible victims.
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