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Miracle Alien Girl
What's up with this new world order?

What is our government planning on doing?

Selling us to the greys? laugh.gif

or what?
Atheist God
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What's up with this new world order?
Lets first start by trying to figure out who and what they are, what they do and how they did it.

I won't go through the history from the last few hundred years but I think the history starting from 1913 will do...
My research into the worlds economic system took me to a dark place where nothing appears as it seems.

Lets start with Who?
Mostly those who are involved are international bankers and the corperate elite. These people really run the show and in a literal sense are the driving force behind modern society as a whole in every nation connected with the global market. that is just about everyone.

Why?
The reason is quite obvious a NWO, basically one world government of their design a global monopoly not only on resources and monetary but us the sheeple. To be honest there aren't any borders anymore we all live in their NWO already most people just don't realize it yet. These people are not only addicted to wealth but power over others, they need to be able to control us and they do a pretty good job I must admit. They already control everything including you and I but as I said most people are seemingly unaware and merely brush it off as outlandish conspiracy theory.

How?
I will just tackle as I mentioned above 1913 to put things in perspective.
President Woodrow Wilson was the person soley responsible for selling out the US by allowing a private bank known as the Federal Reserve to take over control of the US monetary system. Basically legal counterfitting but that is only the tip of the ice berg. Once I figured the fed was privatly owned i dug a little deeper into other nations as well. Every nations central bank is connected via a central hub in Europe the IMF/World Bank. Through this hub the elite giver their orders to the cronies which are then carried out.

So what should we expect within 20 years? Well how about the North American Union slated for 2010 followed by the elimination of Canadian and US dollars as well as the peso (spelling?) and replacing it with the Amero. These steps have already been taken by the EU which might I add is on the verge of drafting the EU constitution to replace sovereign ones.
For us in the Americas it started with NAFTA and CAFTA among other things like the announced NAU.


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What is our government planning on doing?

Selling us to the greys? laugh.gif

or what?


A: What government? Do you honestly think that Bush or Cheney are really running the show? The US government which is basically the might of the NWO is run behind the scenes.

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We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine, and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during these years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries.

Brother David Rockefeller
C.F.R. and Trilateral Commission Founder


Basically we hear from one of the highest ranking members of the elite that he thinks humanity would be better off with him and his freinds in control of the world as opposed to us running the show like we're supposed too.

He is not the only one who has said some creepy things that just don't add up either do you remember George Bushs NWO speech in 91? these people are smart and cunning and deadly serious about what it is they want... control

As for aliens I highly doubt it infact i would be willing to bet that the whole alien conspiracy is to side track us. Some of us fall for it and some of us say screw you and dig deeper. Everytime I think I have figured it all out something new jumps at me. there is definatly a plan for global domination the only question is can humanity show it has the cahonies to stand up to these rotten bastards?

While people will say 'Oh you're full of it' I say whatever dude because irregardless of whether or not you beleive it something is going on. I am certainly not paranoid enough to wear a tinfoil hat I am definatly paranoid enough to watch my back cause after a little stint i had about a year ago it made me think twice.
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To break it down the NWO also known by othernames is a secret society which contains all the most powerful names in banking, politics and corperate circles. These people must have power and control over anything and everyone and will do anything it takes including wiping out large chunks of the population to do it.
micklemas
QUOTE(GanjaGuru @ Jan 14 2007, 08:49 AM) [snapback]1500840[/snapback]
So what should we expect within 20 years? Well how about the North American Union slated for 2010 followed by the elimination of Canadian and US dollars as well as the peso (spelling?) and replacing it with the Amero. These steps have already been taken by the EU which might I add is on the verge of drafting the EU constitution to replace sovereign ones.
For us in the Americas it started with NAFTA and CAFTA among other things like the announced NAU.

I believe Brits would probably take the Amero, we refused to be part of the Euro currency. No European Union directive gets through either without a lot of trouble from us meddling islanders. Most of them have cluases that allow us a bit of freedom. Also we are the only ones that back up the US government, like good little poodles, no matter what the cost is.

Doesn't Denver airport have a plaque that says it was built by or funded by the "New World Order"?
isis-999
What is the NWO...It's a play of the mind for people who have nothing better to talk about or worry over....Thing about it a small group is going to take over the world.... rolleyes.gif
Atheist God
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Jan 14 2007, 05:40 PM) [snapback]1501480[/snapback]
What is the NWO...It's a play of the mind for people who have nothing better to talk about or worry over....Thing about it a small group is going to take over the world.... rolleyes.gif


Many. many scholars support the fact that a shadowy elite does infact control everything. Whether people beleive it or not as i said does not change fact. The fact is a shadowy elite controls the world and most people are to deluded by their own political views that they don't see the obvious. Who controls oil and gas resources, electricity, media, communications, water, economic system etc. It certainly isn't you or I or the people that are supposed to represent humanity within many of the current governments.

To many elites brag about the NWO for it not to exist and the evidence and proof for the existence of such a group that operates behind closed doors does exist. It all comes down to whether or not people accept it or not. humanity was played like a bunch of fools because people are to self centered and laugh it off as mere conspiracy theory. There really is a genuine conspiracy here folks so the question is what are we going to do about it.
KILLUMANATI
QUOTE(GanjaGuru @ Jan 14 2007, 11:53 PM) [snapback]1501496[/snapback]
There really is a genuine conspiracy here folks so the question is what are we going to do about it.


I'm with you on a shadowy elite pulling the puppet string of global politics and ecenomics...The NWO is real, But doing anything about it ?? Theres nothing we can do......Even the Holy Bible prophecized a One World Government and those who oppose will be decapitated. Protesters cant stop what about to happen....I patiently await death.
micklemas
QUOTE(micklemas @ Jan 14 2007, 08:50 PM) [snapback]1501320[/snapback]
I believe Brits would probably take the Amero, we refused to be part of the Euro currency. No European Union directive gets through either without a lot of trouble from us meddling islanders. Most of them have cluases that allow us a bit of freedom. Also we are the only ones that back up the US government, like good little poodles, no matter what the cost is.

Doesn't Denver airport have a plaque that says it was built by or funded by the "New World Order"?


Just found a picture of the plaque. It is actually dedicated to the New World Airport Commision and contains masonic symbols. 2nd and 3rd picture.
http://www.geocities.com/Baja/5692/

If you search google for "new world airport commission" all you find are consipracy sites trying to find out what it is.
KILLUMANATI
what ??? no picture of the cute little mural on the airports wall with children dieing, communist soldiers slashing a white dove with a sword??
micklemas
QUOTE(KILLUMANATI @ Jan 15 2007, 03:45 AM) [snapback]1501685[/snapback]
what ??? no picture of the cute little mural on the airports wall with children dieing, communist soldiers slashing a white dove with a sword??

I was saving that for later tongue.gif
Atheist God
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I'm with you on a shadowy elite pulling the puppet string of global politics and ecenomics...The NWO is real, But doing anything about it ?? Theres nothing we can do......
On the contrary with out us they are nothing, everything they have is because we as humanity have let them have it. Just so you know there are plenty of us doing something about it like spread information and tell the stories that no one else will tell. It is up to us the informed to educate those what is going on. We are millions strong and the only way we can win is to win the battle for the mind. The internet I find is a great resource for the spread of information. Guys like Alex Jones for example have millions of followers. However if all of us fighting the war for humanity pulled our resources we can infact win. I am currently designing posters to throw all over my city to advertize my soon to be independant paper which will also be on the web and free for all those who want to read it. We can win one mind at a time. We just have to use the same tactics they do. It is time people stopped being afraid and got some cahonies and that is the message I will spread.

If everyone of us actually got off our asses and tried we can make a difference because there are always people willing to listen to what you have to say, you just have to find them. There are also people always willing to take action to get things done. I certainly am not advocating violence but protests, independant news papers, cable access and the internet can all be utilized by those of us who are willing to do something.
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Even the Holy Bible prophecized a One World Government and those who oppose will be decapitated. Protesters cant stop what about to happen....I patiently await death.


A one world government is an inevitability and vital to the survival of the human race. However we aren't ready for it yet and it is being forced upon us at an alarming rate. They key to their success is that we the sheeple of the world don't pay attention to them.

The funny thing is these people have no real power without the rest of us. It is up to us to take back what is rightfully ours because no one else will do it for us. People who simply sit around and wait are fatalists and useless to our cause to end the global monopoly we allowed a few individuals to build. If people are just going to do nothing then they deserve their fate.

If people are going to be cowards then they are no better then the elitists. I for one am willing to risk it all to stand up to these old assholes.
War-Junkie
yea if they try and do something you can bet that i will be one of the first people fighting back
KILLUMANATI
Well I dont think its even a question that most of us will go out with a bang.........But the key words in that sentece are "Going Out" and "Bang".............Again I only beleive in this NWO because the Bible confirms it, and it will last until dooms day.
thunkerdrone
QUOTE(GanjaGuru @ Jan 14 2007, 06:53 PM) [snapback]1501496[/snapback]
Many. many scholars support the fact that a shadowy elite does infact control everything. Whether people beleive it or not as i said does not change fact. The fact is a shadowy elite controls the world and most people are to deluded by their own political views that they don't see the obvious. Who controls oil and gas resources, electricity, media, communications, water, economic system etc. It certainly isn't you or I or the people that are supposed to represent humanity within many of the current governments.

Too many elites brag about the NWO for it not to exist and the evidence and proof for the existence of such a group that operates behind closed doors does exist. It all comes down to whether or not people accept it or not. humanity was played like a bunch of fools because people are to self centered and laugh it off as mere conspiracy theory. There really is a genuine conspiracy here folks so the question is what are we going to do about it.



I agree completely. There are many people paid to monitor the internet and to ridicule anyone who tries to call attention to this.
The New World Order is more about population reduction and social engineering than anything else. The plan is to create one
race (through interbreeding) , one language, and one government for the entire planet, and in the process reduce the global
population to 500 million, which entails eliminating 90% of the world population. One of the main instruments for population
modulation in the future is homosexualization. The New World Order plan to create a predominantly gay global culture, both to
reduce child-birth and to spread AIDS. AIDS is manna from heaven to the Rosicrucians and the globalists and enviro-nuts who
wish to eliminate huge numbers of people.
To achieve this, the globalists are waging war against the religions of the world, and against their spiritual traditions of
marriage, heterosexuality, and love for collective humanity.

When people stop loving eachother, they stop protecting eachother, and when they stop protecting eachother, then the slave-owners
and social engineers can move in and do what they will with people, and do so with very little opposition.

A divided people are a weakened people. The New World Order are constantly playing one faction against another. Muslims vs. Christians,
women vs. men, gangstas vs. cops, hispanics vs. whites, etc. etc. etc. It never ends. These satanic elites think they are SOOOOOOOO
much smarter than the general public. They think they are divinity. This delusion is what allows them to flood the continent with
addictive drugs, toxic poisons, laboratory-created disease, and financial corruption of the markets.

They HATE humanity.








Falco Rex
Well, firstly, I don't actually believe in the NWO, but just as an exercise in thought, if I did want to fight back for some reason I'd want to actually know who I was supposed to be fighting and have that info absolutely confirmed. Otherwise it just seems like an excuse to kill rich people to me..
Envy is a deadly sin for a reason; it inspires things like this..
While it sounds noble to be a demagogue, and even start an Anti-NWO newspaper like Mr. Guru, I have to ask myself how many people will take any information represented in it the wrong way. There has to be a clear target or the atrocities that can result from a revolution could be ten times worse than anything the "NWO" had planned..
Another thing that's never been satisfactorily been explained to me is exactly what I could expect to gain by joining the fight..
I have a great life.
If there's one common sense rule, it's that if you want to rule the World you have to keepat least half of the masses happy and preserve at least some status quo..
What exactly do I get out of toppling the system and casting myself into death or poverty? Wouldn't it make more sense to join the side with the resources and the proven track record of victory and world administration? If not, why not?
Believe it or not, I'm actually not trying to be subversive here..They're actual questions that haven't recieved any answer that would make me want to go conspiracy theorist to this point..
thunkerdrone
QUOTE(Falco Rex @ Jan 18 2007, 01:44 AM) [snapback]1506049[/snapback]
Well, firstly, I don't actually believe in the NWO, but just as an exercise in thought, if I did want to fight back for some reason I'd want to actually know who I was supposed to be fighting and have that info absolutely confirmed. Otherwise it just seems like an excuse to kill rich people to me..
Envy is a deadly sin for a reason; it inspires things like this..

Another thing that's never been satisfactorily been explained to me is exactly what I could expect to gain by joining the fight..
I have a great life.


The people who worked in the World TRade Center had great lives too. That did not stop the globalist NWO from killing them.
What you are saying here is exactly the type of thing that the people of China or Russia were saying prior to the big planned 'revolutions' that stripped them
of their land, their human rights, and in many cases their lives. They thought there was nothing to worry about, so much so that the people who
were trying to warn everyone of impending disaster were simply laughed off.

The United States is heading for similar 'events'. My prediction is that the torrent of illegal immigration from Mexico and Central/South America
will continue to double and triple and to become an overwhelming flood. and that the hispanics will be the designated hitters in an 'uprising' to
take over the Southern United States. They will unify with the blacks and the poor in truly staggering number . When the time is right, they
will move, and they will have the full support of the NWO 'inside job' team, complete with an invasion force thrusting northward over the southern border.
The U.S. defense department will be intentionally crippled in some way, by some deliberate circumstance or diversion, (for example , one or several major 'terrorist'
strikes on American soil. probably targeting American defense installations)

A 'peace' will be negotiated, and it will entail both a merging of the continent under martial law and the placing of large numbers of people in detention camps.
This will enable the NWO both to meet their goal of eliminating the southern border, and to meet their goal of engineering another crisis that further erodes
the rights and freedoms of Americans.

The ultimate goal is to remake North America into a Chinese-style police state of slave labor , political imprisonment, one-child policies, and abject , crushing poverty.

Miracle Alien Girl
QUOTE(GanjaGuru @ Jan 14 2007, 12:49 AM) [snapback]1500840[/snapback]
While people will say 'Oh you're full of it' I say whatever dude because irregardless of whether or not you beleive it something is going on. I am certainly not paranoid enough to wear a tinfoil hat I am definatly paranoid enough to watch my back cause after a little stint i had about a year ago it made me think twice.
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What little stint did you have about a year ago?

If you don't mind me asking. I'm very curious about knowing the stint that you experience a year ago.

Thanks.
Miracle Alien Girl
QUOTE(GanjaGuru @ Jan 14 2007, 12:49 AM) [snapback]1500840[/snapback]
To break it down the NWO also known by othernames is a secret society which contains all the most powerful names in banking, politics and corperate circles. These people must have power and control over anything and everyone and will do anything it takes including wiping out large chunks of the population to do it.


I hope I'm not one of the people they wipe out in order to keep their power,control,and money over the whole world. I don't want to die. I'm to young to die. There's so much I want to do with my life. So much I want to achieve. I don't want my life to tragically be cut short because other people's ignorance for greed,money,power,and control. Not to mention selffishness over the entire world. I'd be like Anne Frank. Anne wanted so much to achieve her goals and dreams. But because of Hitler and his clan. Her life was tragically cut short. And she never got to achieve all the things she wanted to achieve in her life. I don't want my life to end up the way hers did. As sadness. I want mine to end up as happiness.
now
if there is overwhelming evidence that 9/11 was 'staged',why have other countries remained silent,no accusations from anybody,i do remember reading that a russian official saying that he believed that 9/11 was staged but i haven't come across anything else
does this mean that they are players as well,does this support the nwo theory?
flyingswan
I like the contradiction between the two claims that the NWO are the international bankers and corporate elite, and that the NWO were responsible for 9/11. Who were all the victims in the WTC? Why, the international bankers and corporate elite, eg Morgan Stanley. An elaborate suicide pact?
Left Field
QUOTE (flyingswan @ Jul 27 2008, 06:07 AM) *
I like the contradiction between the two claims that the NWO are the international bankers and corporate elite, and that the NWO were responsible for 9/11. Who were all the victims in the WTC? Why, the international bankers and corporate elite, eg Morgan Stanley. An elaborate suicide pact?


And how much money do you think Larry Silverstein made off the towers collapsing?

Who do you think were the people that made millions of dollars off of insider trading due to knowledge of the attacks before they occured?

9/11: Insider Trading Before The Attacks

Or are people supposed to believe it is mere coincidence that this trading took place just days before 9/11?
el midgetron
QUOTE (flyingswan @ Jul 27 2008, 10:07 AM) *
I like the contradiction between the two claims that the NWO are the international bankers and corporate elite, and that the NWO were responsible for 9/11. Who were all the victims in the WTC? Why, the international bankers and corporate elite, eg Morgan Stanley. An elaborate suicide pact?


Right, because the dope who worked in Morgan Stanley's copy-room must be a part of the NWO.........



flyingswan
QUOTE (Left Field @ Jul 27 2008, 10:02 PM) *
And how much money do you think Larry Silverstein made off the towers collapsing?

None. He got an insurance pay-out to rebuild, but AFAIK he didn't get anything for loss of rents while the rebuilding was going on.
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Who do you think were the people that made millions of dollars off of insider trading due to knowledge of the attacks before they occured?

9/11: Insider Trading Before The Attacks

Or are people supposed to believe it is mere coincidence that this trading took place just days before 9/11?

I love the way you link to a thread where something is being debated and give the impression that it is evidence for just one side of that debate.

According to several contributors to that thread, it seems that there is a lot less to this story than at first appears.
frenat
QUOTE (flyingswan @ Jul 28 2008, 12:17 PM) *
None. He got an insurance pay-out to rebuild, but AFAIK he didn't get anything for loss of rents while the rebuilding was going on.

Also of note is his insurance policy was for far LESS than he could have gotten and he had to be talked UP to that amount. Hardly seems like someone involved in an insurance scam.
http://www.forbes.com/2003/09/11/cx_da_0911silverstein.html
And there is also the problem that the insurance negotiations weren't even complete.
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Not only had Silverstein insured for too small an amount, he’d also failed to complete policy negotiations before the attacks occurred. As a result he’s been involved with legal fights with the insurers for years, and can only claim $4.6 billion instead of the $7 billion (with even that subject to appeal as of January 2007) he might have got if they’d all agreed to the same document. Does any of this really sound like the actions of a man who knew what would happen on 9/11?

http://www.911myths.com/html/windfall.html
Gunmunky
What can I do about it?
SoCrazes
The NWO is happening NOW. The NWO is where governments and big business are one beast. This beast is stripping U.S. and other world citizens of their rights, cornering the market on valuable commodities (oil, electricity, etc.) or setting up price agreements with competitors, employing high taxes, and ridding labor unions. The ones at the top are hoping for us to remain sheep during this erosion of humanity.

Questions to ponder:

Why has the price of oil gone up since the Iraq invasion? Why hasn't it dropped to pre-invasion days?

Why is the U.S. government allowing deregulation of the electricity market?

Why is Hugo Chavez hated by the Bush administration?

Why was the Patriot Act created?

Do you U.S. citizens think you have more rights today than you did 10 years ago? What about 20 years ago?

Is the No Child Left Behind Act truly producing smarter kids?

How different are those that fund the republican party from those that fund the democratic party in the U.S.?

In the NWO, mammon rules.
Cradle of Fish
SoCrazes, what you're talking about sounds just like a US coup, what does it have to do with, say, any of the countries in the southern hemisphere? For such a conspiracy to extend to the entire world it would have to employ tens of millions of people, and I cant see anything in my own country that could be seen as a sign of the NWO.
Trixipixi
I believe the NWO is a coup to destroy the United States first. then they will move on to easier targets.
REBEL
NWO
OWN
Trixipixi
QUOTE (REBEL @ Jul 31 2008, 10:33 AM) *
NWO
OWN


NWO..OWN..WON..NOW
Cradle of Fish
QUOTE (Trixipixi @ Jul 31 2008, 10:57 AM) *
I believe the NWO is a coup to destroy the United States first. then they will move on to easier targets.


What easier targets? The ultra-nationalistic chinese? The fanatic muslims or jews in the middle east? The russians? Who is 'they' anyway? If you had some idea who 'they' were, you could expose 'them' and do something about it.
Trixipixi
QUOTE (Cradle of Fish @ Jul 31 2008, 11:26 AM) *
What easier targets? The ultra-nationalistic chinese? The fanatic muslims or jews in the middle east? The russians? Who is 'they' anyway? If you had some idea who 'they' were, you could expose 'them' and do something about it.


I believe when the NWO exposes itself it will be led by the chinese Red army. with perhaps a leader like gw bush. in the propoganda photo; look how the Red army general is looking to bush...say for guidance in the New World.
CosmicStar
After reading everyone's responses..I stopped and wondered...Why hasn't someone asked "What can we do to help stop this malicious plan?" There has been countless movements in the past and I believe it's way over due for another one.
SoCrazes
QUOTE (Cradle of Fish @ Jul 31 2008, 06:35 AM) *
SoCrazes, what you're talking about sounds just like a US coup, what does it have to do with, say, any of the countries in the southern hemisphere? For such a conspiracy to extend to the entire world it would have to employ tens of millions of people, and I cant see anything in my own country that could be seen as a sign of the NWO.


What country do you work and live in? What is your position in that country (socially and economically)? "Real" numbers are down for all nations. The NWO will continue until "it" succeeds or is stopped. "It" will succeed when all sheople of the world will work and live like the typical Chinese "slave workers." Worldwide, this is only a generation or two away unless the pendulum swings back the other way.

NOW is the time for the PENDULUM to swing back!

SoCrazes
QUOTE (Cradle of Fish @ Jul 31 2008, 11:26 AM) *
What easier targets? The ultra-nationalistic chinese? The fanatic muslims or jews in the middle east? The russians? Who is 'they' anyway? If you had some idea who 'they' were, you could expose 'them' and do something about it.



Cradle of Fish,

mammon rules "they." Simply follow the money and "they" will be exposed.
SoCrazes
QUOTE (Cradle of Fish @ Jul 31 2008, 12:26 PM) *
What easier targets? The ultra-nationalistic chinese? The fanatic muslims or jews in the middle east? The russians? Who is 'they' anyway? If you had some idea who 'they' were, you could expose 'them' and do something about it.

Greg Palast is doing a great job exposing "they" at http://www.gregpalast.com

Read his book "Armed Madhouse" (I paid $4.98 for the on sale price at Barnes and Noble) for identifying "they".
Cradle of Fish
QUOTE (Trixipixi @ Jul 31 2008, 11:55 AM) *
I believe when the NWO exposes itself it will be led by the chinese Red army. with perhaps a leader like gw bush. in the propoganda photo; look how the Red army general is looking to bush...say for guidance in the New World.


The ultra-nationalistic red army led by a yankee? Do you understand how absurd that is? The US and China aren't enemies, but they aren't really friends either. And an army led by George Bush would be incredibly corrupt and ineffective, have you been paying attention the last 8 years? To me that picture looks like the general is thinking 'what a jackass'.


QUOTE (SoCrazes @ Jul 31 2008, 10:11 PM) *
What country do you work and live in? What is your position in that country (socially and economically)? "Real" numbers are down for all nations. The NWO will continue until "it" succeeds or is stopped. "It" will succeed when all sheople of the world will work and live like the typical Chinese "slave workers." Worldwide, this is only a generation or two away unless the pendulum swings back the other way.

NOW is the time for the PENDULUM to swing back!


Sure, real numbers are down. I live in Australia and our economy is tied pretty closely to the US's, so it's bound to suffer a bit. We're nowhere near slave labour, or totalitarian government control, and if it wasn't for the internet I'd never have heard of the NWO.

Why is it only a generation or two away? The term New World Order came from a speech in the early 1900s, so if the conspiracy is that old, why didn't it seize power after world war one when all of europe was in turmoil? Or world war two? Or during the vietnam war, when the US was tearing apart? It's not the first time the worlds superpower has been vunerable.


QUOTE (SoCrazes @ Jul 31 2008, 10:17 PM) *
Cradle of Fish,

mammon rules "they." Simply follow the money and "they" will be exposed.

QUOTE (SoCrazes @ Jul 31 2008, 10:52 PM) *
Greg Palast is doing a great job exposing "they" at http://www.gregpalast.com

Read his book "Armed Madhouse" (I paid $4.98 for the on sale price at Barnes and Noble) for identifying "they".


Ahh so I have to buy this guys book to identify 'them'. Well since you bought it, couldn't you reveal 'their' names right here? Why is money an issue? We're talking about a conspiracy to install a world wide totalitarian government, and you know the names of the people in charge, it is your responsibility to call them out and do something about it. Don't you have time still to gather weapons and form a compound somewhere in the wilderness?

My point is, the most hardcore conspiracy theorists never act they way they should if they really believed it.
SoCrazes

Sure, real numbers are down. I live in Australia and our economy is tied pretty closely to the US's, so it's bound to suffer a bit. We're nowhere near slave labour, or totalitarian government control, and if it wasn't for the internet I'd never have heard of the NWO.

Your nation is in worse shape than the U.S. right now despite booms in several commodity markets.


Why is it only a generation or two away? The term New World Order came from a speech in the early 1900s, so if the conspiracy is that old, why didn't it seize power after world war one when all of europe was in turmoil? Or world war two? Or during the vietnam war, when the US was tearing apart? It's not the first time the worlds superpower has been vunerable.


What ever term you want to describe it doesn't matter (NWO, WB, WHO, ...). Multi-national corporations are consolidating with government leaders worldwide. Some governments readily accept this while others do not. Saddam didn't like playing their games and neither does Chavez. Yes, this has been occuring for centuries; but, now the technology exists for it to occur on a grander scale - worldwide.


Ahh so I have to buy this guys book to identify 'them'. Well since you bought it, couldn't you reveal 'their' names right here? Why is money an issue? We're talking about a conspiracy to install a world wide totalitarian government, and you know the names of the people in charge, it is your responsibility to call them out and do something about it. Don't you have time still to gather weapons and form a compound somewhere in the wilderness?

My point is, the most hardcore conspiracy theorists never act they way they should if they really believed it.

You don't have to buy the book, look at the website provided to read about the hard evidence. It sounds as though you accept what ever you're told. Don't you ever want to to connect the dots on your own? I'm not a conspiracy theorist, just a concerned citizen trying to get others viewpoint on this and, apparently, you haven't even attempted to read and try to debunk the material on a simple website.

My point is this, people just loved to be told what to think. They are in the habit accepting what they are told rather than investigating their world and questioning. Some people call them "weenies" while others call them "sheople."
Rosewin
Hegelian Dialectic. The people most think are going to bring us the NWO will be taken down by others who everyone will support because of it. These will be the actual people bringing us the NWO.

Beware the peacemaker.
SoCrazes
QUOTE (Rosewin @ Aug 1 2008, 01:42 PM) *
Hegelian Dialectic. The people most think are going to bring us the NWO will be taken down by others who everyone will support because of it. These will be the actual people bringing us the NWO.

Beware the peacemaker.

Good point!
SoCrazes
QUOTE (McKenna @ Jan 13 2007, 07:00 AM) *
What's up with this new world order?

What is our government planning on doing?

Selling us to the greys? laugh.gif

or what?

The elitists (you know who they are) are striving to control the world in a capitalist type of economy but in a communistic slave-state...China is currently a good model. However, the end result, eons from now, will be similar to the 1960 version of Wells' "Time Machine" movie. Cheney resembles one of those morlocks a lot...maybe it is his great-great grandson.
BlindMessiah
It really doesn't matter whether this specific conspiracy is true or not. A unified world is inevitable. Once the world falls under one power there will be no balance of power and corruption will result. A totalitarian global NWO cannot be stopped. Once they achieve their goal it will be the end of freedom. First they'll control all resources, they'll brainwash children through the public education system and brainwash adults through a government controlled and censored media and internet. Every single citizen will be tracked and observed. Home weaponry will be outlawed. Drugs will most likely be prevalent in society to keep the people calm and uncollected. There will be no rebellion. Freedom won't go down with a bang, the resistence will be a whisper. Freedom will be murdered in the name of peace, prosperity, and order and the masses will praise their so called saviors.
SoCrazes
QUOTE (BlindMessiah @ Aug 4 2008, 05:47 AM) *
It really doesn't matter whether this specific conspiracy is true or not. A unified world is inevitable. Once the world falls under one power there will be no balance of power and corruption will result. A totalitarian global NWO cannot be stopped. Once they achieve their goal it will be the end of freedom. First they'll control all resources, they'll brainwash children through the public education system and brainwash adults through a government controlled and censored media and internet. Every single citizen will be tracked and observed. Home weaponry will be outlawed. Drugs will most likely be prevalent in society to keep the people calm and uncollected. There will be no rebellion. Freedom won't go down with a bang, the resistence will be a whisper. Freedom will be murdered in the name of peace, prosperity, and order and the masses will praise their so called saviors.

I agree with a lot of what you're asserting here;however, I don't believe it is inevitable and corruption is hopefully at its peak now. The pendulum must swing back the other way or you are correct...it is inevitable. How do we go about getting the pendulum to swing back?
BlindMessiah
QUOTE (SoCrazes @ Aug 4 2008, 07:13 PM) *
I agree with a lot of what you're asserting here;however, I don't believe it is inevitable and corruption is hopefully at its peak now. The pendulum must swing back the other way or you are correct...it is inevitable. How do we go about getting the pendulum to swing back?


Freedom is the only thing that really matters to me. I see it being lost in the US at this moment. The left takes away free speech in the name of political correctness. The right takes it away in the name of morality. The left takes away economic freedom in the name of social justice. The right takes away freedom of activities by asserting some moral code society. The left takes away gun rights in the name of preventing crime. The right takes away freedom of privacy in the name of security. The way I see it, both side are working toward the same fascist goal from different idealogical angles. Thinking about it on a global level is scary. If I knew how to swing the pendulum, I'd have done it.
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