Infinitemind
Jan 13 2007, 07:30 PM
I need help with summoning Goetic demons. I want to talk to demons and understand this race, which coexist with us. I need help in understandind who i am.
I read a few stuff about them. It could be any demon, please help me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoetiaThe other thing i wanted to say was that demons are really Djinns and there are no such things as spirits. Many people think that when people die, their spirits float around.
The Djinns are often misunderstood for spirits. Why are people so stupid?
_Nyx_
Jan 13 2007, 07:41 PM
IMO..just leave the demons alone... they're usually pretty cranky and they'll wreak havoc on your life.
666XZ
Jan 13 2007, 07:42 PM
QUOTE(Infinitemind @ Jan 13 2007, 07:30 PM) [snapback]1499967[/snapback]
I need help with summoning Goetic demons. I want to talk to demons and understand this race, which coexist with us. I need help in understandind who i am.
I read a few stuff about them. It could be any demon, please help me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoetiaThe other thing i wanted to say was that demons are really Djinns and there are no such things as spirits. Many people think that when people die, their spirits float around.
The Djinns are often misunderstood for spirits. Why are people so stupid?

DO YOU MEAN THE DEVIL?
Falco Rex
Jan 13 2007, 07:51 PM
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Why are people so stupid?
Do you really want to end your post this way? Given that there's thousands of members here, each with a slightly different opinion on everything, it seems like you're just begging for a flame war..
crouton
Jan 13 2007, 08:01 PM
^Exactly. Many, many people will think you are stupid for believing in demons, or wanting to contact one, or for some other reason.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Jan 13 2007, 08:04 PM
QUOTE(Infinitemind @ Jan 13 2007, 01:30 PM) [snapback]1499967[/snapback]
Why are people so stupid?

Thats the pot calling the kettle black.
Infinitemind
Jan 13 2007, 08:12 PM
why do i get weird commments?
I dont understand the comments of ericraven2003. Falco Rex, killer666, and crouton?
Crimsai
Jan 13 2007, 09:40 PM
QUOTE(Infinitemind @ Jan 13 2007, 08:12 PM) [snapback]1500013[/snapback]
why do i get weird commments?
I dont understand the comments of ericraven2003. Falco Rex, killer666, and crouton?

I think it means stop being a jackass and making fun of other peoples beliefs.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Jan 13 2007, 09:51 PM
QUOTE(Infinitemind @ Jan 13 2007, 02:12 PM) [snapback]1500013[/snapback]
why do i get weird commments?
I dont understand the comments of ericraven2003. Falco Rex, killer666, and crouton?

It means you listed a topic under urban legends. Wrong section. You are posting like there are proof of said demons. Which there is not. Then you call certain people stupid. When, in fact, many people may look at you that way.
OlDrippy34
Jan 13 2007, 09:59 PM
I dunno, that five legged star shaped dude looks like he probably does exist.
Crimsai
Jan 13 2007, 10:24 PM
As has been said before, "If peoples beliefs were put down to stupidity and nonsense, this sight would soon fade away". This means that though people may be wrong, you do not have the right to label them stupid.
Crocodilian
Jan 13 2007, 10:44 PM
QUOTE(Infinitemind @ Jan 13 2007, 02:12 PM) [snapback]1500013[/snapback]
why do i get weird commments?
I dont understand the comments of ericraven2003. Falco Rex, killer666, and crouton?
And you call other people stupid?
I understand them perfectly.
m. Moe
Jan 13 2007, 11:30 PM
Ahem, you cannot summon demons. Summoning demons is not an urban legend because very few people actually believe you can. And those are not wierd posts, this topic is wierd.
eqgumby
Jan 14 2007, 01:45 AM
I usually get email notifications of threads I post to. I won't for this one. That guy is a nut-job, and people like him are why it's SOOOOOO easy to get labeled a skeptic. Sheesh........
crouton
Jan 14 2007, 09:56 PM
^Not even for the entertainment value it has? But what's wrong with being labeled a skeptic? I would rather be labeled a skeptic, than be labeled as someone who believes whatever they're told!
E.T_PHONED HOME
Jan 14 2007, 10:06 PM
Whoah to the original poster! I dont know if they are real (and personally i wouldnt like to find out!) Have you seen that british movie about a bunch of students with a ouija board and they accidently unleash a Djinn? Sorry cant think what its called? It scared the poop out of me, if these things do really exist they are evil. Why would you want to go and invite something like that into your life? You got a deathwish or something?!
E.T_PHONED HOME
Jan 14 2007, 10:13 PM
Just googled that movie for you...its called Long time dead.
If you havent seen it watch it before you try and summon one of these things up, you might change your mind!
_Nyx_
Jan 14 2007, 10:17 PM
QUOTE(crouton @ Jan 14 2007, 04:56 PM) [snapback]1501378[/snapback]
^Not even for the entertainment value it has? But what's wrong with being labeled a skeptic? I would rather be labeled a skeptic, than be labeled as someone who believes whatever they're told!

Not being a skeptic doesn't mean you're gullible though...
Chokmah
Jan 14 2007, 11:00 PM
How do you summon a Goetic Demon? Take off their hats!
No...wait... that's popes in a volkswagon.
Infinitemind
Jan 14 2007, 11:57 PM
Still, i get weird and criticizing comments. Why do you call me stupid? Summoning a demon is not stupid. Anyways, this was the first topic i posted, and i didnt even label it urban legends.
I just posted the topic and i didnt even see the categories. SORRY! Sorry guys, next time i'll notice the categories.


Ok, i hope thats enough....
Infinitemind
Jan 14 2007, 11:59 PM
Everyone calls me weird and immature. No one understands me... maybe there are people like me, but i just have to find them..
m. Moe
Jan 15 2007, 12:00 AM
QUOTE(Infinitemind @ Jan 14 2007, 04:57 PM) [snapback]1501501[/snapback]
Still, i get weird and criticizing comments. Why do you call me stupid? Summoning a demon is not stupid. Anyways, this was the first topic i posted, and i didnt even label it urban legends.
I just posted the topic and i didnt even see the categories. SORRY! Sorry guys, next time i'll notice the categories.


Ok, i hope thats enough....
They are not calling you stupid for posting it in urban legends. They are saying that summoning a demon is impossible because demons don't exist.
Infinitemind
Jan 15 2007, 12:18 AM
its not impossible, the djinn coexist with humans nad are more powerful than humans. Like humans, they have religions and could be either good or bad.
I heard a lot about people summoning demons, especially the prophet SOLOMON. And what?

this is the seal he used in his djinn summoning.

he bid demons to do his work by first capturing them.
Opus Magnus
Jan 15 2007, 01:34 AM
QUOTE(Infinitemind @ Jan 14 2007, 06:57 PM) [snapback]1501501[/snapback]
Still, i get weird and criticizing comments. Why do you call me stupid? Summoning a demon is not stupid. Anyways, this was the first topic i posted, and i didnt even label it urban legends.
I just posted the topic and i didnt even see the categories. SORRY! Sorry guys, next time i'll notice the categories.


Ok, i hope thats enough....
Wanting to summon something like a Djinn when you don't even know how is stupid. You're just asking for trouble. You don't start from the bottom and jump 20 feet up on the ladder. Start doing some studying and research.
Infinitemind
Jan 15 2007, 10:33 PM
but why do people not believe in demons ( Djinn )?
crouton
Jan 16 2007, 01:51 AM
Because demons do not exist. And everyone is weird and immature when they are in their mid-teens. I was. And I'm still weird, although not so immature now.......
Heebrow
Jan 16 2007, 02:04 AM
join the masses...
Crocodilian
Jan 16 2007, 02:06 AM
Why would you want to try to summon something that doesn't exist?
More importantly...."summon" does not exist.
Unless of course someone can prove it. I'm sure all of the summon and demon believers will step forward and prove that it exists other than just "believing". I'll be awaiting their replies.
m. Moe
Jan 16 2007, 02:20 AM
QUOTE(Infinitemind @ Jan 14 2007, 05:18 PM) [snapback]1501519[/snapback]
its not impossible, the djinn coexist with humans nad are more powerful than humans. Like humans, they have religions and could be either good or bad.
I heard a lot about people summoning demons, especially the prophet SOLOMON. And what?

this is the seal he used in his djinn summoning.

he bid demons to do his work by first capturing them.

No he didn't. You cannot capture demons, they don't live among us and you cannot summon them. Alll for the same reason: they don't exist.
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but why do people not believe in demons ( Djinn )?
Because they lack evidence and logic.
Caayn
Jan 16 2007, 02:23 AM
Putting aside the whole issue of whether demons even exist or not, lets move on to the next valid point. Say there was a member on UM who just happened to know how to summon one of these demons. Do you really think that they would just tell you how?
**PUN ALERT**>>> Just playing devil's advocate here.
GoddessWhispers
Jan 16 2007, 02:52 AM
I dare say, after reading this thread to this point, hardly so!
If the OP is serious and not a flaming sorry, they know enough to Yahoo the keywords to find sites that respect the notion he's putting forth here. If they persevere, thinking this thread will ever take them seriously, it's clearly not going to happen. If they enjoy ridicule, it shall continue.
Hey, I didn't say it. This fat blue guy that just popped out of my Guinness can, told me to say it.
chaoszerg
Jan 16 2007, 02:59 AM
QUOTE(Infinitemind @ Jan 13 2007, 07:30 PM) [snapback]1499967[/snapback]
demons are really Djinns and there are no such things as spirits[/b]. Many people think that when people die, their spirits float around.
The Djinns are often misunderstood for spirits.
Why are people so stupid?

Ahh its a good thing you know this for a fact now you can show us the proof so that we dont have to be stupid anymore.
Infinitemind
Jan 16 2007, 04:32 PM
OK caayn, u r right, even if someone knew on Um how to summon a demon, they wouldnt tell me. You r right.
But i thought there might be a chance that someone would tell me. I really need a demon companion or
a guardian angel in my life, i'm just totally tired of my life. But some of you guys are christian, and arent they supposed
to believe in demons? Crouton just wont admit there are and chaoszerg.
coldethyl
Jan 16 2007, 06:55 PM
Find the strength inside yourself, not in a made up entity.
asc.rudeboy
Jan 16 2007, 07:41 PM
i guess if you look hard enough you can find anything online
even has a faq section,,,hahaha some peoples children
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis6...EMONOLATRY.html
Genocyde
Jan 16 2007, 07:51 PM
QUOTE(Infinitemind @ Jan 13 2007, 02:30 PM) [snapback]1499967[/snapback]
I need help with summoning Goetic demons. I want to talk to demons and understand this race, which coexist with us. I need help in understandind who i am.
I read a few stuff about them. It could be any demon, please help me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoetiaThe other thing i wanted to say was that demons are really Djinns and there are no such things as spirits. Many people think that when people die, their spirits float around.
The Djinns are often misunderstood for spirits. Why are people so stupid?

why is there such a big increase in peopel wanting to talk to demons all of a sudden, first of all if youre thinking of Biblical demons they dont exist, at all, so no your never going to be able to speak with Abaddon or Legion, or Beezlebub so get over it, secondly, any entity that is powerful enough and agressive enough to be considered a demon should not be messed with, there are so many people wanting to talk to demons these days and have no knowledge that would be able to help them at all, they think this thing will just sit there and answer questions......you know what, do ahead and try to summon a demon, or djinn or whatever you call them, then there will be one less idiot in the world.
As for what you said about Solomon, that is a made up story, and, if you look closely at the story it is Biblical, and like i said no Biblical demons exist, Solomon SUPPOSEDLY had permission from "God" to use these demons which is why they didnt kill him. If your gunna qoute some idiotic story sayin its true, at least get it right
allinvayne
Jan 16 2007, 08:14 PM
Ok, let's just assume that demons do exist. I would tell you to use a Ouija board, because from what I've read about them they are the perfect tools for releasing "demons". But why would you want to summon a demon anyways? These entities are evil and I doubt they'll help you if they do exist. If you do contact one it will probably make your life a life a living hell.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Jan 16 2007, 08:53 PM
QUOTE(Infinitemind @ Jan 16 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]1503750[/snapback]
i'm just totally tired of my life. But some of you guys are christian, and arent they supposed
to believe in demons? Crouton just wont admit there are and chaoszerg.

Then get a dog or a hobby not a nonexistant demon.
crouton
Jan 16 2007, 09:31 PM
I will never say something exists when it does not. There are no such things as demons. Where is the proof that they exist? Wake up, and smell the coffee. Demons do not exist. No one will tell you how to summon a demon, because there is no way to summon something that doesn't exist. If anyone tells you of a method, they are lying to you, and taking advantage of you.
Oh, and by the way, chupacabras have not been proven to exist either. Sorry to burst your bubble......
And as for Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy, well...........
Infinitemind
Jan 16 2007, 10:46 PM
thanks allinvayne for the ouija board idea. Demons are not all evil, like i said. They could be either good or bad like humans.

and thanks asc.rudeboy. I appreciate. You dont sound rude like your name.
Opus Magnus
Jan 17 2007, 01:52 AM
Have you considered reading the public release of the Necronomicon? I mean of course it was written by a guy dubbed the, "Mad Arab," and it's pretty well known that the released version is a forgery (or at least most of it is a forgery). You might find it interesting. Abdhul Alhazred, the supposed author was very skilled at conjuring up demons and spirits to do his bidding and finding secret knowledge. Although supposedly he met his death by being ripped apart by an 'invisible monster' in the town square with hundreds of eye witnesses in the middle of the day. Maybe you should take that into consideration.
Uraeus
Jan 17 2007, 08:36 AM
QUOTE(crouton @ Jan 16 2007, 04:31 PM) [snapback]1504139[/snapback]
I will never say something exists when it does not. There are no such things as demons. Where is the proof that they exist? Wake up, and smell the coffee. Demons do not exist. No one will tell you how to summon a demon, because there is no way to summon something that doesn't exist. If anyone tells you of a method, they are lying to you, and taking advantage of you.
There are many who disagree with you, and many who agree with you. From my experience, denying their existence leads to destruction, and unhealthy fascination leads to destruction as well. C.S. Lewis talks about finding a balance. For me personally, I know demons exist.
Evoking demons leads to trouble. Perhaps you will have something to write about if you succeed, or you may never get to the point of writing about it due to the consequences. They are powerful, and masters of lies and deceit.
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Oh, and by the way, chupacabras have not been proven to exist either. Sorry to burst your bubble......
And as for Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy, well...........
Honestly, give this guy a break... Completely separate from the demon issue.
-Uraeus
micklemas
Jan 17 2007, 01:33 PM
QUOTE(Infinitemind @ Jan 13 2007, 07:30 PM) [snapback]1499967[/snapback]
I need help with summoning Goetic demons.
If its a formal occasion I would try "Excuse me Sir"
Infinitemind
Jan 17 2007, 04:40 PM
thanks for being nice and not mean uraeus. Thanks for the knowledge of the book and for the warning opus magnus, but i am not scared of
dying. I would die to find the truth, and not live in lies. Life is a journey and finding out the road to the truth is a major thing.
Opus Magnus
Jan 17 2007, 07:55 PM
QUOTE(Infinitemind @ Jan 17 2007, 11:40 AM) [snapback]1505103[/snapback]
thanks for being nice and not mean uraeus. Thanks for the knowledge of the book and for the warning opus magnus, but i am not scared of
dying. I would die to find the truth, and not live in lies. Life is a journey and finding out the road to the truth is a major thing.
Near the end of the book it wasn't his life that he had fear for, it was his soul. He had gotten in so deep he didn't even know where he was and what gods he had offended. There's other ways to pursue the truth. Start with meditation. Try communicating with your spirit guides through meditation.
Azalin
Jan 17 2007, 08:06 PM
The Necronomicon is a good work of imagination. It is a story created and coined by H.P Lovecraft. Although it is a great " story ", or false documentary, which ever you want to classify it as, it is the work of fiction.
Pitviper
Jan 17 2007, 08:44 PM
To the op i understand how you feel but you need to look for a different way to get a friend. Look inside yourself find a way to make friend's your current course of action will bring you nothing but trouble..
R3LOAD
Jan 17 2007, 08:51 PM
im really not trying to be mean infinite mind but I think you should get some help ( and i say this in the nicest way possible) I went to a therapist once and it helped me out alot. but you are talking like you are very depressed saying things such as. "im not afraid of death" you sound like your a little on the edge. do yourself a favor and talk to someone about it. and once again. no offense im just trying to help out
Infinitemind
Jan 17 2007, 11:07 PM
yo guys, i'm not crazy. I'm just different and more open to the world.

Dont just stick to criticism or one edge, look for other possibilities.
Genocyde
Jan 17 2007, 11:19 PM
QUOTE(Infinitemind @ Jan 17 2007, 06:07 PM) [snapback]1505581[/snapback]
yo guys, i'm not crazy. I'm just different and more open to the world.

Dont just stick to criticism or one edge, look for other possibilities.

im just as open minded as you, its just ive proved to myself that the demons that your talking about dont exist, there are other types of entities that exist in our world, just not Goetic demons
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