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Playing God... And Devil... With Designer Babies
By R. Andrew Newman

Embryonic screening allows couples to not only play God, but the devil.

It seems some couples are moseying up to the baby menu and ordering ones heavy on the defects and disabilities.

According to a recent survey of fertility clinics, four of the 190 that responded indicated they've helped families have a baby with a disability or deformity; the clinics sift through embryos, created in a lab dish, to ensure that the one to be implanted in the mother's womb carries the desired defect. The survey will be published in the journal Fertility and Sterility, and it should raise eye-brows -- and, I hope, red flags.

I can understand why some parents might be tempted to "design" their child to be better physically or smarter, but why would anyone want to create, purposely, a deformed or disabled child? As the father of three healthy children (thank God), I find myself deeply troubled. It's not that I wouldn't love a child with defects -- at least I hope I'm not that cold-hearted -- I can't imagine wishing such problems upon a child.

But Jeffrey Kahn, a University of Minnesota bioethicist, can. "It's an ethically challenging question and certainly it will trouble people," he told the Associated Press, "but I think there are good, thoughtful reasons why people who are deaf or...dwarves could say, 'I want a child like me.' ...If people in a shared culture all have the common clinical defect, then it's maybe not a defect in the traditional sense."

There seems no practice perverse or disgusting enough that it can't seek sanction, or exemption from scrutiny, by having the word "culture" invoked. No one is disputing that, in the sense of leading lives in a silent world and possessing their own language, the deaf have a culture. But there is no getting around that not being able to hear is a disability, and it's a disability that takes courage and resourcefulness to overcome.

When deaf parents make sure their children will be deaf, however, they aren't preserving a culture. They aren't teaching cultural practices and beliefs that the children, when grown, can continue to accept or reject. They are sentencing other human beings who have no choice in the matter to a disability.

These parents may talk of "deaf culture" or "dwarf culture," but underneath the bafflegab I wonder if there's not plain old envy at work. "If I can't hear, then my children won't be able to hear either. If I can't do it, neither will they."

At the very least this is selfishness. "There are good and thoughtful reasons," as the University of Minnesota bioethicist put it, "why people who are deaf or ... dwarves could say, 'I want a child like me." Like me. A New Jersey woman who considered embryonic screening said, "You can't tell me that I cannot have a child who's going to look like me." Like me. And with no chance to be anything but like me.

It is reassuring that some experts the AP contacted have troubles with designing defective babies. "It's just unethical and inappropriate," said one doctor whose Detroit lab specializes in embryonic screening, "because the purpose of medicine is to diagnose and treat and hopefully cure disease."

Such voices need to be heeded.

R. Andrew Newman is a freelance journalist in western Nebraska.

Copyright 2007, The American Spectator
Genocyde
this should be illegal, its just wrong to be able to make your baby anything you wish them to be, especially giving them defects, let the child grow and develop on its own. Some people these days...i swaer....
jrree57
[quote name='Irish' date='Jan 16 2007, 06:50 PM' post='1503937']
Playing God... And Devil... With Designer Babies
By R. Andrew Newman

Embryonic screening allows couples to not only play God, but the devil.

It is reassuring that some experts the AP contacted have troubles with designing defective babies. "It's just unethical and inappropriate," said one doctor whose Detroit lab specializes in embryonic screening, "because the purpose of medicine is to diagnose and treat and hopefully cure disease."

Irish,

Its the otherside of the abortion issue; most people don't think there is two side of a coin. If, Destroying life is wrong

then why isn't creating life in a test tube, throught vertro- fertilazation not wrong. Designer babies is the next step.

I heard in China thier is becoming a shortage of female babies, Because of t rolleyes.gif their one child policy. rolleyes.gif

Staari
On a very opinionative note : I think its just so wrong to "create" babies, the whole thing is wrong!
I think if people want kiddies ... adopt! Theres millions of children and babies without parents! Why not take them in?

This is a very sick world we live in! crying.gif

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Lotus Flower
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QUOTE(Irish @ Jan 16 2007, 06:50 PM) [snapback]1503937[/snapback]

Playing God... And Devil... With Designer Babies
By R. Andrew Newman

Embryonic screening allows couples to not only play God, but the devil.

It is reassuring that some experts the AP contacted have troubles with designing defective babies. "It's just unethical and inappropriate," said one doctor whose Detroit lab specializes in embryonic screening, "because the purpose of medicine is to diagnose and treat and hopefully cure disease."

Irish,

Its the otherside of the abortion issue; most people don't think there is two side of a coin. If, Destroying life is wrong

then why isn't creating life in a test tube, throught vertro- fertilazation not wrong. Designer babies is the next step.

I heard in China thier is becoming a shortage of female babies, Because of t rolleyes.gif their one child policy. rolleyes.gif


It does seem to feel that it is tampering with nature doesn't it - designing defective babies I mean. A lot of miscarriages occur because there was something that had gone wrong - not through the parents fault of course, but just nature. To deliberately cause a baby to be born with a defect seems unethical and unnatural.

I always thought this when people could get screened so that they would only have a male or female baby. There seems, in some cultures to be an obsessive preoccupation with having male children.

When I had my two children, I really didn't care whether they were male or female as long as they were ok, infact after I had my second child a woman stopped me in the street and said "What a sweet baby, is it a boy or a girl?" when I informed her she was a girl, the woman then went on to ask if I had any other children and what sex they were - "I have another daughter" I said to which she replied "oh well, never mind, maybe you will have a boy next time".

Cheek if you ask me, two daughters were brilliant as would have been two sons or one of each, I really do think things are getting out of hand and as Irish said at the beginning of this thread, it smacks of selfishness if nothing else!
Waspie_Dwarf
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Irish,

Its the otherside of the abortion issue; most people don't think there is two side of a coin. If, Destroying life is wrong

then why isn't creating life in a test tube, throught vertro- fertilazation not wrong. Designer babies is the next step.


This is just false logic. Why should someone believe that in vitro fertilisation is right just because the believe abortion is wrong? There is no connection between the two.

The issue is far more complicated than that. When it comes to designer babies, if we allow it at all how far should we allow it? If these techniques are used to eradicate some genetic diseases would that be a bad thing? What if they are used to produce super strong soldiers?

I find the moral implications of modern genetic engineering to be an intellectual mine field. There are huge benefits ahead but huge dangers too. We have to be careful how we use this knowledge.
EmpressStarXVII
I read about this. I'm all for advancements in science, but why would anybody want to "design" their baby? It seems quite vain to me for some reason.
frogfish
This is just morally wrong. I am disgusted by these people.
Leonardo
Do these 'parents' not stop and think "Ok, when little Johnny turns 18 we'll tell him we deliberately engineered him to be blind..."

If my parents had done that and I'd been born with a disability (well other than my natural nerdiness and stupidity) they had engineered they would no longer be my parents as far as I'm concerned.
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