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Reality is not real
ever wonder where we go when we die? what if this IS the afterlife? it's a bit like reincarnation but not totally. What if when we die, we end up in a "waiting list", waiting to be born again. if this is true then ghost are souls on the waiting list. my "theory" (more like a fun thought) is that when a an egg and a sperm fertilise, a soul is assigned to the unborn embro. when the baby is born, all memories from the "past life" is erase to make room for new (maybe in cases of people claiming to remember his/her past life, it error in the erasing process) . I know this sound stupid and all but there isnt really any proof to say it doesnt work that way. rolleyes.gif
Jack Black
Thats an intersting theory you have there, and unfortunatly that will remain one of lifes unsolved mysteries.
MVxK
QUOTE(Reality is not real @ Jan 18 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]1506351[/snapback]
ever wonder where we go when we die? what if this IS the afterlife? it's a bit like reincarnation but not totally. What if when we die, we end up in a "waiting list", waiting to be born again. if this is true then ghost are souls on the waiting list. my "theory" (more like a fun thought) is that when a an egg and a sperm fertilise, a soul is assigned to the unborn embro. when the baby is born, all memories from the "past life" is erase to make room for new (maybe in cases of people claiming to remember his/her past life, it error in the erasing process) . I know this sound stupid and all but there isnt really any proof to say it doesnt work that way. rolleyes.gif


Thats not the way it works, sorry. There is no proof that midgets don't come into my room when I'm asleep, play noughts and crosses on my forehead and wash it off before I wake up - that doesn't mean that it happens.

The proof needs to be given by the person making the claim to support the claim - saying something is possible because there is no proof of it not happening is ridiculous.

I not sure how many times I'm going to have to say that on this forum.

Aside from that, while I don't agree with your theory, there is definately room for the idea that our "selves" - souls, consiousness, whatever you want to call it - exist before we're born.

Myself, I believe that consiousness is an accidental byproduct that helps us deal with and make sense of human progression through evolution. The fact that we have it is a bonus - in fact the fact that we have it invalidates the question of why we have it, as if we didn't have a "soul", we wouldn't be asking the question.

Sorry, bit OT I know.
Opus Magnus
QUOTE(MVxK @ Jan 18 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]1506448[/snapback]
Thats not the way it works, sorry. There is no proof that midgets don't come into my room when I'm asleep, play noughts and crosses on my forehead and wash it off before I wake up - that doesn't mean that it happens.

The proof needs to be given by the person making the claim to support the claim - saying something is possible because there is no proof of it not happening is ridiculous.

I not sure how many times I'm going to have to say that on this forum.

Aside from that, while I don't agree with your theory, there is definately room for the idea that our "selves" - souls, consiousness, whatever you want to call it - exist before we're born.

Myself, I believe that consiousness is an accidental byproduct that helps us deal with and make sense of human progression through evolution. The fact that we have it is a bonus - in fact the fact that we have it invalidates the question of why we have it, as if we didn't have a "soul", we wouldn't be asking the question.

Sorry, bit OT I know.


It's a theory, you can't prove or disprove it.

Your theory seems to contradict itself though. First you say this is the afterlife, then you mention that ghosts are the waiting dead. Anyways, I've had this same idea run through my head many times.
Reality is not real
QUOTE(Opus Magnus @ Jan 18 2007, 11:42 PM) [snapback]1506492[/snapback]
It's a theory, you can't prove or disprove it.

Your theory seems to contradict itself though. First you say this is the afterlife, then you mention that ghosts are the waiting dead. Anyways, I've had this same idea run through my head many times.

i do agree that the theory seems to contradict itself. i shouldn't have called this the afterlife but i couldnt find another word for a place where ghost go after they die (beside heaven and hell). but then again, in my little "theory", i did mention that ghost possess a new body when they are so-called reborn so this can be called the afterlife. anyway, as i said, this is more of a thought rather than an elaborated theory. happy.gif
Cadetak
QUOTE(Reality is not real @ Jan 18 2007, 08:28 AM) [snapback]1506351[/snapback]
ever wonder where we go when we die? what if this IS the afterlife? it's a bit like reincarnation but not totally. What if when we die, we end up in a "waiting list", waiting to be born again. if this is true then ghost are souls on the waiting list. my "theory" (more like a fun thought) is that when a an egg and a sperm fertilise, a soul is assigned to the unborn embro. when the baby is born, all memories from the "past life" is erase to make room for new (maybe in cases of people claiming to remember his/her past life, it error in the erasing process) . I know this sound stupid and all but there isnt really any proof to say it doesnt work that way. rolleyes.gif


You have to take into consideration the genetics of birth. You will inherit personality traits form both your mom and dad' side of the family. You would have to be "assigned" to the same exact family tree again.

Reality is not real
QUOTE(Cadetak47 @ Jan 19 2007, 02:52 PM) [snapback]1507507[/snapback]
You have to take into consideration the genetics of birth. You will inherit personality traits form both your mom and dad' side of the family. You would have to be "assigned" to the same exact family tree again.

IMO, one's personality depends a lot on the enviroment in which he/she grow up. it is no doubt that we inherit our parents' traits but those traits only include physical characteristics. therefore, you wont hv to be born into the same family tree again.
Reality is not real
QUOTE(MVxK @ Jan 18 2007, 10:58 PM) [snapback]1506448[/snapback]
Thats not the way it works, sorry. There is no proof that midgets don't come into my room when I'm asleep, play noughts and crosses on my forehead and wash it off before I wake up - that doesn't mean that it happens.

The proof needs to be given by the person making the claim to support the claim - saying something is possible because there is no proof of it not happening is ridiculous.

I not sure how many times I'm going to have to say that on this forum.


if your argument is true, then every single religious person in the world is ridiculous. No1 has ever seen God but all of them assumed that God exist. So does that mean God doesnt exist?
No one will ever be able to say for sure. That apply for my "theory" too. I call it "theory" because I do not believe in it totally but it is possible. tongue.gif
MVxK
QUOTE(Reality is not real @ Jan 19 2007, 08:25 AM) [snapback]1507558[/snapback]
if your argument is true, then every single religious person in the world is ridiculous. No1 has ever seen God but all of them assumed that God exist. So does that mean God doesnt exist?
No one will ever be able to say for sure. That apply for my "theory" too. I call it "theory" because I do not believe in it totally but it is possible. tongue.gif


There is much more evidence for him not existing than vice versa.
Razer
I think your "theory" needs some work, no offense. However, I feel that something like what you are describing may be occuring. I believe very strongly that we don't have just one life, but many lives. So many in fact the number would seem absurd.
paranormal_kid233
QUOTE(Reality is not real @ Jan 18 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]1506351[/snapback]
ever wonder where we go when we die? what if this IS the afterlife? it's a bit like reincarnation but not totally. What if when we die, we end up in a "waiting list", waiting to be born again. if this is true then ghost are souls on the waiting list. my "theory" (more like a fun thought) is that when a an egg and a sperm fertilise, a soul is assigned to the unborn embro. when the baby is born, all memories from the "past life" is erase to make room for new (maybe in cases of people claiming to remember his/her past life, it error in the erasing process) . I know this sound stupid and all but there isnt really any proof to say it doesnt work that way. rolleyes.gif



well yea i have wondered about where you go when we die and past life etc, some how i dont know where it come from but i think the "re-born theory" has some kind of point to it and how we died in our past life also links up to some unexplainable fears in the life we're all in now. If you think about it, in my brain it makes some sence but i cant really explain it, e.g if your afraid of the dark or just get some strange feeling from it (yea true i do but thats someting else) and you cant really explain why or remember any trumatic experiences in life that had something to do with being in the dark, could it link up to how you died or a trumatic time in your past life? this has really nothing to do with erasing memory for new life etc but remembering the past life...i have no idea what im talking about right now...but anyways im tired and just felt like blabering on about something....
okay so if someone was afraid of fire they might have died in a fire releated accident or whatever and then be trumatised by it in thier "new life"
so their might be some link to the afterlife ..or reincarnatin etc

im not sure it just something that came into my mind really....
Al Bundy
You ever wonderd what's behind the universe(blackness) and what's behind it? And what's behind that?
The creator? The creators student? God?
adeo
QUOTE(Reality is not real @ Jan 18 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]1506351[/snapback]
ever wonder where we go when we die? what if this IS the afterlife? it's a bit like reincarnation but not totally. What if when we die, we end up in a "waiting list", waiting to be born again. if this is true then ghost are souls on the waiting list. my "theory" (more like a fun thought) is that when a an egg and a sperm fertilise, a soul is assigned to the unborn embro. when the baby is born, all memories from the "past life" is erase to make room for new (maybe in cases of people claiming to remember his/her past life, it error in the erasing process) . I know this sound stupid and all but there isnt really any proof to say it doesnt work that way. rolleyes.gif


and what if a nuclear war will start, and then many natural disasters will come, and then two meteors will hit, one in the ocean and the other on land.

there will be no afterlife?
Dagaz
QUOTE(Reality is not real @ Jan 18 2007, 08:28 AM) [snapback]1506351[/snapback]
ever wonder where we go when we die? what if this IS the afterlife? it's a bit like reincarnation but not totally. What if when we die, we end up in a "waiting list", waiting to be born again. if this is true then ghost are souls on the waiting list. my "theory" (more like a fun thought) is that when a an egg and a sperm fertilise, a soul is assigned to the unborn embro. when the baby is born, all memories from the "past life" is erase to make room for new (maybe in cases of people claiming to remember his/her past life, it error in the erasing process) . I know this sound stupid and all but there isnt really any proof to say it doesnt work that way. rolleyes.gif


Your theory is not too far from what some people believe, such as hinuism etc. Being reborn in order to learn to become a better person etc.

There is only one flaw that bugs me about it. If it's indeed true that we get a body asigned while in soul form, where do all the souls come from? There is much more people on earth now than there ever were. Who generates new souls? Do they get split into more and more pieces? That's what gets me. So if new souls get born too, there has to be a creator of sorts. In that movie "The seventh sign" they were talking about a cuff where the souls are kept. But because the evil in this world outweighed the good, the cuff turned up empty and the first so called "anti christ" was born. A human without a soul. In order to give this new human a soul, the mother of the baby had to sacrifice her life for him...so that the cuff could refill.. The movie was pretty freaky. devil.gif
Razer
QUOTE(Dagaz @ Jan 20 2007, 08:06 PM) [snapback]1509289[/snapback]
Your theory is not too far from what some people believe, such as hinuism etc. Being reborn in order to learn to become a better person etc.

There is only one flaw that bugs me about it. If it's indeed true that we get a body asigned while in soul form, where do all the souls come from? There is much more people on earth now than there ever were. Who generates new souls? Do they get split into more and more pieces? That's what gets me. So if new souls get born too, there has to be a creator of sorts. In that movie "The seventh sign" they were talking about a cuff where the souls are kept. But because the evil in this world outweighed the good, the cuff turned up empty and the first so called "anti christ" was born. A human without a soul. In order to give this new human a soul, the mother of the baby had to sacrifice her life for him...so that the cuff could refill.. The movie was pretty freaky. devil.gif


There is more people on the earth now than ever, but who says souls only enter into to humans on this planet? Maybe they enter into other life forms, be it animals on this planet or aliens on other planets.
Reality is not real
QUOTE(adeo @ Jan 21 2007, 03:42 AM) [snapback]1509274[/snapback]
and what if a nuclear war will start, and then many natural disasters will come, and then two meteors will hit, one in the ocean and the other on land.

there will be no afterlife?

not exactly. i agree with razer about the fact that not all souls enter human. according to buddhism, if in this life you do wrongs, you would be born into an animal the next life. now, i dont know about wrong doings but im quite sure about souls entering other animals. so even if 2 meteors were to hit, one in the ocean and the other one on land, not all living thing will be annihilated, therefore, there will still be afterlife. as for the case that all living are annihilated then there would probably no afterlife.
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