God

•God takes away Adam and Eve's eternal life, thus commiting the first murder, and holds their descendants responsible and visiting Adam and Eve's punishment down on their children. In today's moral standards, the sins of the father die with the father.
•God destroys all life on Earth in a great flood, except for a drunk (Noah) and his family, for failing to worship him.
•God's tenth plague upon the Israelites was the unjustified murder of all firstborn sons in Egypt, which undoubtedly included little children.
•Before sending the plagues to Egypt, God "hardened Pharaoh's heart" so that he wouldn't let the Israelites go, so he could have an excuse to visit horrible plagues upon them, like boils, killing cattle and murdering all firstborn sons. (Exodus 4:21)
•God orders the Levites to kill their "every man and his neighnor" for worshipping another god. This cost 3000 lives. (Exodus 32:27)
•God sends a plague to the Israelites, apparently feeling that mass-butchery wasn't enough of a punishment. (Exodus 32:35)
•God kills Onan for refusing to impregnate his late brother's (whom God also slew) wife and instead "spilling his seed on the ground." (Genesis 38:8-10)
•God kills the entire populations of Soddom and Gammorah (again, including women, children and infants) for practicing certain sexual techniques.
•God gives all Philistines hemorrhoids in their pubic areas. (1 Samuel 5:9)
•God kills over 50,000 people for looking at an ark. (1 Samuel 6:19)
•God kills 70,000 people because King David decided to have a census. (1 Chronicles 21:7-14)
•God approves of slavery, and instructs owners to beat their slaves. (Proverbs 29:19)
•And, finally, God makes sure that if you are guilty of even the smallest transgression, you shall suffer endlessly for all eternity, following a dramatic homecoming for Jesus, who will be extremely pissed off at everyone for putting him to death, even though it was just the Romans and even though he knew what was going to happen beforehand, and he could have easily avoided it by using his power as God to perform a miracle and prove who he was. (See the entire book of Revelation)

Satan

•Satan, like Prometheus, gave knowledge to humanity by giving Eve the fruit from the forbidden tree. Because of Satan, humanity gained knowledge of good and evil, according to Genesis. Since we couldn't have possessed knowledge of good and evil before eating the fruit, Adam and Eve couldn't have known that eating the fruit was evil, so it seems a little harsh to punish them as severely as God did. Satan gave humans true capacity for moral judgment, unlike God, who simply expected everyone to mindlessly obey his orders.
•There is no biblical record of Satan engaging in the murder of torture of any human being, unlike God, who is guilty (and proudly guilty) of commiting genocide.
•There is no biblical record of Satan ever ordering someone to kill someone else, unlike God, who has repeatedly demanded the deaths of those who commit even the smallest of offenses.
•Satan will not be holding a massively dramatic ceremony full of blood and death for the return of his son to Earth. God apparently will.

It doesn't take a mathematician to add up and compare God and Satan's respective body counts. God has, after all, killed billions of people in a great flood. Satan never did anything like that. What was the only thing Satan did "wrong"? He rebelled against God, but wouldn't you? Look at what kind of a God he is! He needlessly murders people in nearly every book and passage of the Old Testament! He created an entire race of people for the sole purpose of catoring to his own ego, and then gets mad when we don't live up to our appointed role in life or question one of his decisions! He is a ruthless, dictatorial, narcissistic, sociopathic mass murderer. If I go to Hell for not worshipping him, so much the better. I'd rather spend eternity with Satan, someone who hasn't treated the human race like disposable garbage, someone who has given knowledge to humanity rather than trying to suppress it.

It's time to stop this needless slandering of Satan's name. Satan has done nothing to deserve it. He hasn't killed anyone, publicly exonerated slavery, demanded our worship or threatened us with eternal damnation for not doing his bidding. It is God who is guilty of all these crimes. Satan's done nothing but rebel against a repugnantly unjust authority figure, and he gets eternal damnation and association and blame for all evil on Earth! Meanwhile, Martin Luther King, Jr. gets a holiday named after him, and Satan was far more courageous that King was. After all, Satan stood up to an all powerful narcissist who made it clear that he never would change his mind on any issue. King at least had a democracy to work with. The Christian Smear Campaign toward Satan is completely unwarranted. Maybe, before criticizing Satan, they should look at the God they worship. Is Satan really a bad guy? Certainly not in comparison to God. In fact, I'd much rather have Satan running things. He just can't be worse than God.

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I must say that I agree with him
Whats your opinion about it?

maybe you should read what the future will be like after Satan is GONE .

Isaiah 11, Micah 4 , last 2 chapters of rev just to name a Few .


Seems like quite a Happy place after Satan is Removed

Ichigo, could you please provide a source for this post. UM frowns upon plagiarism of any kind.
Edit: thank you

To help your case...
God: "inspired" the Crusades, "inspired" Hitler and "inspired" George W. Bush, and those are just the leaders who come to mind that have done what that did for Christianity's sake.

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Oy, Bible God is evil...and Satan doesn't exist.

And Nova...if things are happy and hunky dory when this made up cartoon is gone does that still justify all the hurt and death bible god caused before?

I think it can be said, from my Atheist perspective, that the motives and the minds of those that first created what is accepted as the theists story of a god such as this, and his opposer or dual self, may be said to be evil. It's all subjective, really. God invented to answer the eternal question. Why and what, is this?! This life, this universe, etc... And the characteristics applied to the visage of that intangible man made answer, are contrivances of man because they are characteristics of the human personality. Making god a man made image, the ultimate terrorist, bringing to bear all the powers a god would wield, for all the same reasons as humans have to do so. Vengeance, rage, acquisition, oppression. Ego glorification, basically.

So then, that opens the door to consider the dual self of the god visage. The devil, satan, lucifer (light bringer-interesting term for a minion of dark evil) . Were it not for that opposer/opposite, god would have no credibility. If it weren't for that dual aspect of god power, grace, salvation, etc... in the form of sin, evil, damnation. There would be nothing to be saved from, and thus god would be nothing to strive for. Belief in a god for the purpose of attaining salvation, would not exist at all.

As is said; The devils the best friend the church ever made. It's kept them in business all these years. But what of the minds of humanity!? It's corralled them into believing it all necessary. Just on word alone. Imagine if the devout, the zealots, put all that zeal into believing the world they live in is worth the effort of paradise now. When god tells you to hate, it's not god. It's those that have the will to hate. And that's man. Just look around at the world that faith built, if one doubts that a bit. Clearly the devil rules here, in action and deed, as believers make their faith on earth. And where's god? But, given the legend of "his" powers, watching. Free choice. Some believe we asked for it. Some believe "god" let us. Because it's all part of the plan.
Ever wonder what the point of the plan is, if this is the living by god's permission part of it!? When god has human characteristics, it's not god, it's man. God existed before man. How then would god possess what is the same sinful personality traits, as damnable man!?


Who is more evil? We are. Even the salvation we make to believe for ourselves, is wicked.

That's almost disturbing looking at it from that perspective. I think it likely appears that way because over the years as the "Bible" has been edited, Satans works have been minimized because it seemed less important to show that he was evil. It was considered common knowledge God=good, Satan=bad. Perhaps more ancient writings detail some of Satans more colorful exploits? Just a thought.

Considering they are of the same mind and body - both are as equally ambigiously evil and good.

Whereas I could write a book, you said it simply and very well!

it takes a few thousand years to rid us of evil so we can make a perfect eternity . big deal in the end .

What would 50 years of suffering look like if you did some day gain immortality and 1billion years from now looked back at the 50 years you suffered .

You Guys all put God on Trial but your not being fair you don't think nowhere big enough . You don't ad in that God can fix it all Later .
The little children suffering could all recieve eternal life later in a place with no evil at all .


Paul said I recon the sufferings of this life are not worthy to compare with the glory that will follow .

If the Bible is really heard its not . whats a 70 year life time compared to eternity ? whats the last few thousand years to eternity?

Eternity with all the evil sifted out . Never no evil again. Satan is being used to draw the Evil out now before it makes it to eternity . It would just be a lauph 1 billion years from now for all those that make it into a eternity when evil was removed in this age of the flesh .

Its just not hitting you Guys what Gods real plan is . all the suffering of this earth will just be a joke some day . But it was a good lesson on where evil leads . And yes the evil will be removed from Amonst us .


If you are evil your not going no where . But some amonst us are not evil are minds can't even imagine where they are going or what they will become . A perfect eternity had to get rid of the evil from the start .


Some of us catapilers will make it to be butterflies Some of us die here type of deal . I understand it and it does make perfect sence .

Then, obviously, you don't.

Its my opinion.......thet neither exist and never have.
Both were man made delusions due to churches.
I can of course change my mind with proof.

Sounds to me by your very statement (this quoted statement) that you're on the fence with the issue. You contradict yourself twice.

In my opinion:

God is more evil than Satan, because it is him who created Satan.

Man's imagination is...well, wonderful . Can we really define evil and good when we perform it so much unknowingly? Seems more like an animalistic thing to me, and if God and Satan aren't animals...maybe they're just there for someone to blame for all our problems.

God! A omniscient, omnipotent deity that creates a world with evil in it--or allows it in any form--is wholly evil. And the god of the Bible is even more so, for He freely admits that it is He who is responsible for evil, disasters ...