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greggK
Place a cup on a table and stare at it for a minute or so and take the cup away.

Grasshopper, what do you see?

Why Master, I see a cup! No wait, it's gone.

The nuclear imprint is in your brain. See, we've all been here before. Some of us were here during the Civil War. Well, the last surviving widow of a Civil War veteran has recently died. Anyway, the imprints in your brain that you have put there and keep putting there all of your life is what is called 'heaven.' We have been stuck on this earth for who knows how long. Peoples 'heaven's have been mixing and mingling together all of that time. The laws of attraction play a part too. The atmosphere is 'living,' if you want to say that. The atmosphere is in a state of continual flux, i.e. the elements keep mixing and moving this way and that, and when certain elements line up in such a way as to mirror the line up that was before imprinted then a picture comes out, however brief.
I mentioned the Civil War. There have been stories of 'ghost battles' where 'snippets' of battles are replayed in certain areas.
That gets into the Irish folklores, 'The Memory of Trees.' You could extend that to cover anything.
The cup that you place on the table put a memory in three places; the table, the cup, and the atmosphere.
But, then you go to church and learn the three are one.
sub_x0ne
You are speaking gibberish. Are you saying we have been re-incarnated?
greggK
QUOTE(sub_x0ne @ Jan 22 2007, 12:00 PM) [snapback]1511465[/snapback]
You are speaking gibberish. Are you saying we have been re-incarnated?


The second nobody that has called my thoughts gibberish. We have nowhere to go! We have not been 'un- incarnated' yet! We have separate and distinct bodies, but the mind has built up from 'OOOO-oooo-Gaaa-Gaaaa' to being able to scientifically calculate the force released in the collision of atoms.

And yet we hang on to the past because without the past, we would not know how things work, how to fix something when it breaks and in this hanging on, we invite the creation of the past. The past is replayed in things like the Oklahoma City Bombing, the 'bomb' that was dropped on a Los Angeles neighborhood from a police helicopter, the twin-towers in NYC. All of these happenings can be placed in the past at different times and diffent scenarios. The bodies change and the mind progresses, but the mind cannot cause a body to progress. The body stays two arms, two legs, three eyes, three ears, and so on.

Your idea of re-incarnation takes into account that there is 'something else' that incarnates. There is nothing else that can be in the body of man besides what is there and all we have is a higher level of instinct.
~Onyx~
So, shouldn't this be relocated into the "Theories" or "Beliefs" forum?
Raptor
QUOTE
Place a cup on a table and stare at it for a minute or so and take the cup away.

Grasshopper, what do you see?

Why Master, I see a cup! No wait, it's gone.

The nuclear imprint is in your brain.


Err...are you referring to a visual 'after effect'?

Look at an object for a minute, then take it away and you can still see it, that sort of thing? That's due to the way in which your retina behaves, nothing more.

I'm not even going to dignify the rest of your post with a logical response. blink.gif


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EDIT: Actually, while I'm at it:

-Nuclear: Of or relating to atomic nuclei.

I don't know what you seem to think it means?
~Onyx~
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Jan 22 2007, 02:01 PM) [snapback]1511532[/snapback]
Err...are you referring to a visual 'after effect'?

Look at an object for a minute, then take it away and you can still see it, that sort of thing? That's due to the way in which your retina behaves, nothing more.

I'm not even going to dignify the rest of your post with a logical response. blink.gif
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EDIT: Actually, while I'm at it:

-Nuclear: Of or relating to atomic nuclei.

I don't know what you seem to think it means?


Maybe they meant neurological?
Raptor
QUOTE(Onyxdk @ Jan 22 2007, 07:21 PM) [snapback]1511550[/snapback]
Maybe they meant neurological?


You might be right, thanks.

Now if you can just translate the rest of the post, we'll be in business. yes.gif
Spunned
lol wtf huh.gif
Razer
I'm trying to understand the OPs point, but I'm having trouble. Could you restate it please in a diferent way. Thanks.
earthchick
I think that in a round-about way he is saying there is no afterlife....no spirit/soul........that all there is is the here and now and the only things that really exist are physical things.
Razer
QUOTE(earthchick @ Jan 23 2007, 08:01 AM) [snapback]1512331[/snapback]
I think that in a round-about way he is saying there is no afterlife....no spirit/soul........that all there is is the here and now and the only things that really exist are physical things.


If that is what he is saying, I couldn't disagree more. Every fiber of my being tells me that is wrong. I sure hope I'm not mistaken ohmy.gif
sub_x0ne
QUOTE(greggK @ Jan 22 2007, 01:30 PM) [snapback]1511502[/snapback]
The second nobody that has called my thoughts gibberish. We have nowhere to go! We have not been 'un- incarnated' yet! We have separate and distinct bodies, but the mind has built up from 'OOOO-oooo-Gaaa-Gaaaa' to being able to scientifically calculate the force released in the collision of atoms.

And yet we hang on to the past because without the past, we would not know how things work, how to fix something when it breaks and in this hanging on, we invite the creation of the past. The past is replayed in things like the Oklahoma City Bombing, the 'bomb' that was dropped on a Los Angeles neighborhood from a police helicopter, the twin-towers in NYC. All of these happenings can be placed in the past at different times and diffent scenarios. The bodies change and the mind progresses, but the mind cannot cause a body to progress. The body stays two arms, two legs, three eyes, three ears, and so on.

Your idea of re-incarnation takes into account that there is 'something else' that incarnates. There is nothing else that can be in the body of man besides what is there and all we have is a higher level of instinct.


People probably wouldn't call your theory gibberish, as long as you could make a coherent statement. Looks like you're just typing random thoughts without explaining anything.
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(greggK @ Jan 22 2007, 11:50 AM) [snapback]1511456[/snapback]
Place a cup on a table and stare at it for a minute or so and take the cup away.

Grasshopper, what do you see?

Why Master, I see a cup! No wait, it's gone.

The nuclear imprint is in your brain. See, we've all been here before. Some of us were here during the Civil War. Well, the last surviving widow of a Civil War veteran has recently died. Anyway, the imprints in your brain that you have put there and keep putting there all of your life is what is called 'heaven.' We have been stuck on this earth for who knows how long. Peoples 'heaven's have been mixing and mingling together all of that time. The laws of attraction play a part too. The atmosphere is 'living,' if you want to say that. The atmosphere is in a state of continual flux, i.e. the elements keep mixing and moving this way and that, and when certain elements line up in such a way as to mirror the line up that was before imprinted then a picture comes out, however brief.
I mentioned the Civil War. There have been stories of 'ghost battles' where 'snippets' of battles are replayed in certain areas.
That gets into the Irish folklores, 'The Memory of Trees.' You could extend that to cover anything.
The cup that you place on the table put a memory in three places; the table, the cup, and the atmosphere.
But, then you go to church and learn the three are one.

this cat speaks fluent barekaneese..........B thumbsup.gif
eqgumby
Release the Monkeys!!!
(The ones that fly out my ass of course). grin2.gif

I get the premise, but honestly, just write it, this is not poetry class. If you have an idea, theory, whatever, just state it in plain english. And put it in the proper forum. This looks like something cut and pasted from some dime store metaphysics webpage.
Gatofeo
QUOTE(greggK @ Jan 22 2007, 10:50 AM) [snapback]1511456[/snapback]
Place a cup on a table and stare at it for a minute or so and take the cup away.

Grasshopper, what do you see?

Why Master, I see a cup! No wait, it's gone.

The nuclear imprint is in your brain. See, we've all been here before. Some of us were here during the Civil War. Well, the last surviving widow of a Civil War veteran has recently died. Anyway, the imprints in your brain that you have put there and keep putting there all of your life is what is called 'heaven.' We have been stuck on this earth for who knows how long. Peoples 'heaven's have been mixing and mingling together all of that time. The laws of attraction play a part too. The atmosphere is 'living,' if you want to say that. The atmosphere is in a state of continual flux, i.e. the elements keep mixing and moving this way and that, and when certain elements line up in such a way as to mirror the line up that was before imprinted then a picture comes out, however brief.
I mentioned the Civil War. There have been stories of 'ghost battles' where 'snippets' of battles are replayed in certain areas.
That gets into the Irish folklores, 'The Memory of Trees.' You could extend that to cover anything.
The cup that you place on the table put a memory in three places; the table, the cup, and the atmosphere.
But, then you go to church and learn the three are one.


Um ... well .. yeah ... of course ... but that's totally discounting the effect of the 7 Moons of Umbleev, which have their own gravifartinal effect on your whole subsystem theorem. And let's not forget that the half-life of the nuclear imprint is almost 30 phreetons. Rather startling, eh?
But I see your basic premise, though the speed of the laws of attraction are usually proportionally related to the amount of alcohol ingested and the lumens in the surrounding area.
As for trees having memories, this has been established for years. Years ago, Parinov used a subether chlorylometer to discern the memory of Lodgepole pines, common in the Northwest and noted for being particularly profulic. Though the experiment worked, it was something of a disappointment. Contrary to postulations, trees have rather dull memories: wind storms, birds nesting, the occasional limb breaking and a root cracking a rock. Hardly Oscar material.
As for the Civil War, the three are only one after the smoke clears from the battlefield. Ghosts tend to begin as singles, then double and eventually quadruple into multiple personalities. From this, we get a variation of the psychic emphasis, the result being ... well, I think it's pretty clear what the results are and I needn't elaborate.
But yeah. Conflarity abounds in this question.
aquatus1
Thread closed for getting too technical.
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