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Skeet Ulrich
Symmetry? Specific proportions maybe...but what proportions?
Spunned
I don't think there's any formula.. therefore you can't say that someone's face is perfect.. it might be in your point of view, but maybe not in mine...
Razer
QUOTE(Skeet Ulrich @ Jan 23 2007, 02:29 AM) [snapback]1512022[/snapback]
Symmetry? Specific proportions maybe...but what proportions?



Symmetry and the golden ratio. But the main thing is, how much the other person has had to drink!
Neith
QUOTE(Skeet Ulrich @ Jan 22 2007, 09:29 PM) [snapback]1512022[/snapback]
Symmetry?


Yes symmetry has to do with it but the face can not be perfectly symmetrical or it would look very strange
glynne64
That is something I have thought about quite often. Cause so frequently when Hollywierd or the media tells me that so & so is an attractive man/woman, I really don't see it. hmm.gif Not saying they aren't good looking, but definitely not someone I'd want to throw myself at or whatever. I just don't see what all the fuss is about regarding the attractiveness of some actors/actresses. I just don't. Sorry, they don't "rock my boat". no.gif

I guess I don't "follow the crowds" on what is attractive really. Course then many times the last thing that attracts me to someone is their face/physique. I'm more of a hands & eyes girl. If you have strong/interesting hands or captivating eyes...I'm toast! wub.gif Also I think what makes someone attractive is how they carry themselves. Do they have confidence, without being conceited. I find that some people just seem to have an "inner light" or aura. Now, that is HOT!!!

So if I'm going to say anything that makes a face attractive...great eyes (which is subject to a person's preferences) & a nice/fun smile. Thar ya go! thumbsup.gif
Skeet Ulrich
QUOTE(Razer @ Jan 22 2007, 09:55 PM) [snapback]1512064[/snapback]
Symmetry and the golden ratio. But the main thing is, how much the other person has had to drink!

So you think the Golden Ratio thing is true?
Razer
QUOTE(Skeet Ulrich @ Jan 23 2007, 03:51 AM) [snapback]1512152[/snapback]
So you think the Golden Ratio thing is true?


I think as a general rule, symmetry and the golden ratio are subconscious guides to how atractive a face is. Of course there are other factors, cues to a persons age and health also play a big role. Then of course there are individual differences in preference. Many of the girls my friends think are hot I don't find attractive and vice versa. Anway, that's my two cents for what it is worth.
Opus Magnus
The golden ratio thing does make sense in how attractive someone is. Never thought of that. Like how the lips and eyes and stuff are formed. Symmetric and follow the golden ratio.

Personally I like the eyes. Radiant eyes, like they're piercing. Lips and hair are nice too.
Jack Black
Beuty is in the eye of the beholder
Razer
QUOTE(ledley @ Jan 23 2007, 11:04 AM) [snapback]1512447[/snapback]
Beuty is in the eye of the beholder


Don't you mean "Beauty is in the eyes of the Beerholder"? Oh wait, I lead in with a drunk joke laugh.gif
NatureGirl
Thank God I don't drink! Its all ready dak enough in those bas I can only imagine what beer does.
I think I'm going to have to go with symmetry on this one. But if the person is an as**ole than that gets real old.
I'm a sucker for confidence and humor. That and Johnny Depp.
TheHerb420
It's really simple... Horomones
Razer
QUOTE(TheHerb420 @ Jan 23 2007, 11:45 PM) [snapback]1513104[/snapback]
It's really simple... Horomones


While hormones may make us seek out an attractive mate, I don't think they determine what makes a face attractive. Maybe pheromones play a part, but I have not read any studies on the subject.
truethat


I think this is an interesting question. I think that the energy in a person makes a difference. Their presence. Some people take great photographs but are blah in person. And vice versa.
Razer
QUOTE(truethat @ Jan 24 2007, 01:41 AM) [snapback]1513238[/snapback]
I think this is an interesting question. I think that the energy in a person makes a difference. Their presence. Some people take great photographs but are blah in person. And vice versa.



I agree, and some people are really attractive until you get to know them but others that didn't seem so attractive become more so as you get to know them.

Neith
QUOTE(truethat @ Jan 23 2007, 08:41 PM) [snapback]1513238[/snapback]
I think this is an interesting question. I think that the energy in a person makes a difference. Their presence. Some people take great photographs but are blah in person. And vice versa.



I agree with that. I think some ones energy, their spirt or what ever it is you may call it is what really makes someone attractive. As far as pictures go I'm not sure but I hate pictures of myself I think I look much better in real life.
Larving
QUOTE(glynne64 @ Jan 23 2007, 04:45 AM) [snapback]1512143[/snapback]
If you have strong/interesting hands or captivating eyes...I'm toast! wub.gif

Green/brown eyes and strong, scared hands... Interested? tongue.gif
...






...No?... Aaaaw..
Lotus Flower
QUOTE(clover @ Jan 24 2007, 01:56 AM) [snapback]1513256[/snapback]
I agree with that. I think some ones energy, their spirt or what ever it is you may call it is what really makes someone attractive. As far as pictures go I'm not sure but I hate pictures of myself I think I look much better in real life.


It is weird with photos, I'm not that keen on my own photos, I am also completely aware that I am not in any way, shape or form photogenic! It occurred to me the other day, this photogenic business - there are less photogenic people about than those that are not and I wondered if it was down to this:

Our left side of the face is slightly different to our right side, maybe in photogenic people the better half comes out in photos whilst the rest of us have to make do with the dud side! rofl.gif
rev r
Simple. Opinion. wink2.gif
Kaknelson
Eyes.
ShaunZero
The most silliest thing I've ever seen scientists do was try to explain how there is a "perfect face", or a "certain type" of face/body that we're attracted to. First of all, never take dating advice from a scientist(No offense XD), second, everyone has different taste, and the proof is pretty obvious.
nativechick1989
What it all comes down to, is personal preference .. we all have our own preferences on what we think is attractive. What I might see as a handsome/good looking face, my friend may not see it as such.
Loonboy

I saw a documentary about criminals and murderers etc. a while back. One of the things explored was that they thought that if they merged together the faces of criminals, they would get a generic 'look' to help identify the appearance of a killer.

In a twist, they didn't really achieve that, as the merged images became more attractive the more photos were merged into them.

In essence, the more a person looks like the 'average' (symmetry etc. I guess), then the more attractive people perceive them to be...

Interesting, huh?

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ninji
Its a chemical reaction, whatever makes you react is stiched into your DNA. Nowadays we all have different perceptions though on the basic wants our bodies use to determine a partner... thats why its more subjective then we were back when we were nomadic hairy people.(Read: more animal like)
The chemical reaction is what gives us those good feelings and then well we pick up from there.
Reality Shift believer
The eyes are more responcible than just determining color. The attraction occurs in the 3D realm. The eyes see depth which portrays a 3D model in the mind. First the mind determines attraction by that, then it diverts to color, like noticing facial features or freckles and other mishaps on the body. Once both requirements are met, true attraction occurs. But sometimes being friends for a long time can also develop attraction. Ever look at a monotone sculpture of a really beautiful women and thought she was really hot. You could not understand it because all you see is colors, but the mind uses the eyes to draw a 3D model to judge. But since its monotone, there really is no imperfection other than she isn't a she, its an it, not living. So you walk away. It's a weird concept to understand. I've also heard that similar energies between two different genders causes an attraction also.
Skeet Ulrich
Maybe someday God will tell me why I found certain faces more attractive than others. But everyone had interesting replies.
Tooth_and_Claw
QUOTE(clover @ Jan 23 2007, 03:41 AM) [snapback]1512138[/snapback]
Yes symmetry has to do with it but the face can not be perfectly symmetrical or it would look very strange



lol true and also if ur eyes moved symmetrically laugh.gif
Leonardo
Beer?

I don't know the answer to the question but I could have a guess that we are attracted to the same shape of face as the first we saw and associated with love. This attraction may not be exclusive as we all develop 'quirks' as we grow and mature.
when.i.am.queen.
I took part in a Study at a nearby university(one of many, I gather) which was looking at the relationship between ratio's of featuers, and their arrtractiveness. From what I gather, the golden ratio (1.618) is extremly important, mainly between the nose and eyes, and the eyes and lips ( I don't know how it works)

A bit of googling brought this up - check out the second page. Click here
Please Explain
When you drink beer, everyone is attractive.
Celumnaz
QUOTE(Reality Shift believer @ Feb 1 2007, 07:27 PM) [snapback]1526102[/snapback]
The eyes are more responcible than just determining color. The attraction occurs in the 3D realm. The eyes see depth which portrays a 3D model in the mind.

Like the hollow face effect where it's impossible to see the truth of the inverted nose... our minds just put it there because of all the noses we've seen in our life sticking out... cool.
bornagainuhmanduh
As we all know, women, regardless of sexual preference, check out other women...It seems like they usually find women who resemble themselves to be more attractive. Probably because their features are more familiar. This isn't always true but it seems to be common.
airika
I have to agree that it's all totally "in the eye of the beholder" if you will. Here's a small example....in the movie The Truth About Cats and Dogs...Janeane Garofalo is portrayed as ugly, while Uma Therman is portrayed as beautiful. When my opinion...it's the exact opposite. Janeane Garofalo is smart...cute...qwirky...and Uma Therman..well.....looks like a man. It's all open to each individuals idea of beauty.
Skeet Ulrich
QUOTE(uhmanduh @ Feb 9 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]1536167[/snapback]
As we all know, women, regardless of sexual preference, check out other women...It seems like they usually find women who resemble themselves to be more attractive. Probably because their features are more familiar. This isn't always true but it seems to be common.

Very interesting.
666XZ
QUOTE(Skeet Ulrich @ Jan 23 2007, 02:29 AM) [snapback]1512022[/snapback]
Symmetry? Specific proportions maybe...but what proportions?


Interesting
bigdog112
there is some sort of facial features that attract cretin people to each other. I remember seeing a TV show about it but i don't remember the details. one Thing i do remember was that some scientists said a mans attraction to large breasts have no real biological meaning unlike a womans search for a good looking man. There is no reason for a man to search for a woman with large breasts because it serves no advantage for his hires.
Kaknelson
QUOTE(airika @ Feb 9 2007, 10:00 AM) [snapback]1536187[/snapback]
I have to agree that it's all totally "in the eye of the beholder" if you will. Here's a small example....in the movie The Truth About Cats and Dogs...Janeane Garofalo is portrayed as ugly, while Uma Therman is portrayed as beautiful. When my opinion...it's the exact opposite. Janeane Garofalo is smart...cute...qwirky...and Uma Therman..well.....looks like a man. It's all open to each individuals idea of beauty.


w00t.gif

I have to agree, but not about her looking like a male.

LOL.

I completely get what you are saying though.
Bogeyman
Just heard a survey on this yesterday

It seems the perfect face for attracting a mate of either sex has Big Eyes , A small Nose and thick lips

So guys just picture me writing this message with a bag on my head......coz i'm the opposite of all of those ............Sad but true crying.gif
Leonardo
QUOTE(bigdog112 @ Feb 15 2007, 07:29 AM) [snapback]1543945[/snapback]
there is some sort of facial features that attract cretin people to each other.


Sorry, bigdog, I know this was a typo and I shouldn't pick you out but it really made me laugh.

Thanks for making my day... laugh.gif tongue.gif
Staari
QUOTE(Skeet Ulrich @ Jan 23 2007, 02:29 AM) [snapback]1512022[/snapback]
Symmetry? Specific proportions maybe...but what proportions?


Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder!

~*~
Bogeyman
An interesting point on this.....If anyone watched the last British Big Brother series ...i think all the guys here would probably agree that Danielle Loyd is the archetypal "BABE wub.gif "
and for the first few days all male eyes would have been on her....but as the show went on and she showed the kind of two faced cow she really was ...she became very unnatractive and even ugly ...because of her personality....true beauty Shilpa won out in the end and her personality made her even prettier than she really is ...so yes personality does have a bearing on true beauty....

In fairness though ...i still wouldn't kick Danielle outa the bed for eating biscuits or anything grin2.gif
Carajbu
What is the Golden Ratio?
my_psychosis
Thats a hard one for me cause I like a large varity of men. The 4 below (including the pic of my boyfriend with me) are all very good looking to me. Actually I think I just love men in general. devil.gif linked-image
cladking
I think a great deal of it is self image. If you have a good and realistic
self image you are more attractive. Much of what other people will find
attractive in you will be a matter of their own preferences and their own
self image.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but it originates in the soul and is fil-
tered through the self. The older one gets, the more true this becomes.

I always like the perfect face with some small flaw. It's the eyes which al-
ways draw me to the face initially.
gem
i think its the over all look.
gem
QUOTE(Bogeyman @ Feb 15 2007, 11:38 AM) [snapback]1544086[/snapback]
Just heard a survey on this yesterday

It seems the perfect face for attracting a mate of either sex has Big Eyes , A small Nose and thick lips

So guys just picture me writing this message with a bag on my head......coz i'm the opposite of all of those ............Sad but true crying.gif

lol. c'mon if you have a good personality, you would be beautiful to those who meet you. so cheer up. but im sure you were exagurating (is that how you spell it??). wink2.gif
SixString
Attraction is a funny thing isnt it.
I dont think theres any rule of attraction at all, its been said but before but beauty really is in the eye of the beholder.
Those who are considered more attractive than the average-Joe, lets say Josh Hartnett (He has small eyes) for arguements sake, now alot of girls swoon over him, and alot don't. But..he'd be alot less attractive to most of those girls if he wasnt rich or wasnt in movies, theres plenty of shallow people.
Models and such in magazines also tend to be air-brushed and re-arranged too.
Some people are considered attractive because their friends find that person attractive, friends are powerful influences over people. If a friend points someone out, you'll tend to go along with them, and find yourself drawn to them.
Its all an opinion really, theres always someone who'll like a certain person, or type of person.
MUM24/7
QUOTE(Razer @ Jan 23 2007, 10:10 PM) [snapback]1512454[/snapback]
Don't you mean "Beauty is in the eyes of the Beerholder"? Oh wait, I lead in with a drunk joke laugh.gif


LOL...You crack me up... yes.gif
Mr Walker
I think there are three elements to this. The first element is genetic. We are all programmed to "love" certain genetic traits. One of the most common is big eyes. Babies are born with eyes much larger in proportion than adults, and there is strong scientific argument that this is a genetic programme to ensure otherwise helpless babies are loved and nurtured. (just goes to show that even nature doesn't work perfectly all the time.) The second is cultural. We generally are attracted to people of a similar appearance/cultural group. This is by no means universal and the saying "opposites attract" also comes into play here, as we may be attracted to the unique or rare as well. Overall, however, everyone from serial killers to the average joe is attracted to someone who will "fit in." Alot of our cultural stereotypes and predjudices are based on this. It may also support an earlier posters comment that people with a biological defect, which is evident in their appearance, may also be attracted to each other.
The third element is serendipity, also known as magic. While scientists try to explain away love as just another form of biological attraction, in some cases there is an element of magic. When I met my wife for the first time it was like the young Corleone in the Godfather, hit by a thunderbolt. Despite a big difference in age and several strong cultural taboos against our falling in love, she cast a spell that so far has lasted 35 years with no sign of weakening. To me she appears as young and beautiful as she did then, and i would do the same silly things for her now as i did then. The only rational explanation is magic:)
nativechick1989
QUOTE(SixString @ Feb 16 2007, 07:12 AM) [snapback]1545549[/snapback]
theres plenty of shallow people.

I agree ... it's sad, but true.

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