ok bare with me on this one.. im not used to posting about things like this actually and it's pretty hard to explain.
i wander around this place from time to time and i feel this is probably the only place where i'll find someone out there who can help at all.
probably for about 2 1/2 yrs now i honesly have had "something" following me around.

it all started about two years ago when me and my sis moved to this one house. i first had the biggest bedroom and no problems what so ever. my sister one day asked if we could switch rooms.. honesly i did not care so i said sure. never asked why.

i started having weird dreams and then sp and ap's.
i will so shorten the story lol.. basically weird sh** started happening to me. i could just "feel" something around me. i could feel it touching me i could feel it around me. i've seen ghosts or spirits before and i've seen some weird stuff happen but i've never ever felt anything like this honesly.

i could just feel it , i could feel it coming and i could feel where it came from .. it was from that bedroom in that house.
anyways.. eventually i moved out not b/c of that. it followed me.
i eventually moved back and had learned alot more about paranormal things since the last time i had lived there. more about sp and ap and things of that sort.
it just seemed to have gotten stronger somehow. i know when it's around i can feel it , i can feel it looking over my shoulder alot also.
sometimes i think that it's just curious or that it needs help. i've tried everything i've tried helping it and talking to it.
i tried telling it it has to leave if it will not leave me alone. i told it how it makes me feel and still it will not stop or leave me alone.

i've honestly felt it touch me , i've felt it slap me. at times i thought i was going crazy but when i saw my hair move a strand of it stand up .. i knew i was not completly crazy.
after the slapping started i knew this thing whatever it was could not be nice. i had nicely tried to help it and find out what it wanted what was wrong then it goes to slapping me ??

anyways .. i've tried banishing spells and basic cleansings and nothing that i know of or that i know how to do seems to work.
i do not know how to explain things very well and i know this may seem like a retard newbie post to many.
but i've had some people whom i trust very much and i know they know alot about these kinds of things .. i've had them tell me it may be a demon ,
but i just do not think that at all really.

does anyone know anything or can anyone think of anything this may sound like? i probably left alot out trying to keep this short.
any questions please ask. i'm just looking for answers b/c it's honestly starting to get worse.
i just need to know what else can i do besides what i've already done and why do i feel bad when people tell me things like trying to banish it and all.
i feel it needs help and mostly i feel it's just trying to tell me something.

god it feels so embarrasing to post this at all i feel like i sound retarded or something.

When you say "slap" do you mean like hand held back and slapped across your face, as in aggressive? Do you at all feel threatend? Maybe where it wants to harm you? b/c you constantly say "it wants help" but it seems to express something different...

bless your heart, don't feel embarraced---

When you say touched and slapped is this gentle or OUCH!?

If it's ouch I would definately do something about it. Whatever it is does not have your best interest at heart. Was the person in the room before you affected in any way? and has anyone else seen/felt this entity or seen the effects on you?

There is Movie called The Entity and is based on a true story of events that happened to Carlotta Moran. This woman suffered similar things to yourself but to a more severe degree. If it is a similar entity it will be very hard to get rid of.

Have you considered seeing a doctor?

no offence the first time it slapped you, you must have been quite shocked i guess, kinda funny to me, mostly cause i dont have any spirits following me around. yet.

ok seriously i think you should go to a church and get help from a priest, even if your not Christian it cant hurt to try

good luck, stay safe mate

Do you feel slightly aroused,when you get "touched"?,or turned on a bit when you get "slapped"?,it could be that deep down in your psyche you really want a spirit to fancy you ,that or you really have a randy ghost on your hands

first , you came to the right place!
second,do not be embarrassed because NOBODY WILL GIVE YOU ANY CRAP HERE! (rite gang?)
So that said and as I feel this one is more up Sunnys' street I'll be brief and only self reference(big surprise huh?)...
As an SP victim myself(one last month led me here!) i have found that challenging the intruders to "show themselves now and not try to sneak up on me while I sleep like cowards!!!" seems to work for me, say it out load and BE PISSED!!! one thing Evil hates is being called out and confronted in a fair fight!( I am learning!!) and its ego cannot stand the subsequent shame of following through with SP attack etc. ..............B


Evil=hate
Evil=cowardice
Evil=racism
Evil=jealousy

Honestly guys, if I had experiences or symptoms tha textreme, I would consult a doctor or hope a friend would get me to see a doctor. Trying "spells" or even seeing a priest if you have no religious background could just make things worse.

On a lighter note, starting a thread with lol at the end does not make me laugh out loud.......................

I suggest you get to praying, what's going on in your room is SO wrong. And it's probably going to continue to worsen with all those inneffective tactics you've tried. The "thing" is probably just irritated now, and it's clearly disturbed with YOU. And as far as you feeling bad about trying to banish it - would you feel bad about kicking me out after I slapped you around for asking me some simple questions?? Lol! I seriously doubt it. Take your house back. Go with God and good luck!

Did this happen to your sis as well?

Something tells me this is your fantasy! Why else would you assume such garbage?

I don't know for some odd reason i just have a hard time believing this story!
Maybe it's just because i've never had this kind of thing happen to me, But it just seems like an over active imagination to me.

Unknown, depending on what you believe--> you going to HAVE to get in touch with someone who can cleanse this entity. I personally think it's demonic, if this was ME, I'd talk with my priest or pastor, first.
It may take a stronger influence than yourself to rid this thing following you/harrassing you, you need to decide by which route to take to do so. I suggest immediately, this type of harrassment seem to worsen with time. --

I think you should consult a doctor before you do anything else.

I have to ask this, does the slapping happen during times of sleeping, SP or AP? or is it during your woken state?








Don't feel embarrassed or like that, you've come to the right place

You need someone who's connected to the spirit world to shift this bugger, it's well out of order and over the line....If you're interested I could do a remote cleansing for you and move whatever it is on.

ok well I don't know why my section of text has been repeated twice, It doesn't appear so in edit mode and I can't fix it lol !!

Ummm prob seems fixed now

OT Zup Anvil!
yeah i got troubles with pic uploads ! problems with server /maybe doing udgrades etc...B

thats all sorry.......

hey guys thanks for the replies i dont feel so retarded now.
ok well with the whole slap thing. yes the first time it happend i was shocked and scared also. it was like a little ouch feeling sorta like a gust of wind blew on only one part of my face very very fast and hard.
what suprised me is that it did actually hurt a little bit but not too bad.
the slapping started happening more than only once i do not know exactly how many times but a guess would be maybe 3-4 times now.
it seems like when i talk to my friend about this thing online is when it gets mad .. it seems like it hates to be talked about at all. and then is when i can feel it looking over my shoulder like it's actually reading what i type about it.

it comes and goes , sometimes it will hang around me for a few days and bother me then it's gone for a few days and then out of no where it is back . .. i can always feel it when it's back.

i guess let me describe how i feel mostly when it's around.
i feel scared, i feel creaped out like something is watching me.
i can feel it when its mad. i just know what it's feeling it's so hard to explain.

i have only felt threatend when it slapped me. when it plays with my hair or reads over my shoulder i just feel scared and freaked out not really like i'm in danger.
this is why i do not know if it is mean or just curious.
i've asked it what it wants, i've told it to come out and tell me what it wants to stop toying with me.
like i said nothing works.
i know i just know that this thing is the reason for my weird dreams lately my nightmares and also i know it's got something to do with my latest ap experience well i think so.
i saw a shadow thing in my door way when i ap'd last time and i think it was that thing but i could be wrong i guess.
i went to follow it and it was just gone.

anyways guys thanks so much for your help. like i said i just want to know if it's mean or just curious.
i dont think it's gotten so bad yet at least to where i need professional help of any kind.
if it ever got that bad i would look for help.

im glad i can talk about these things here and not have someone look at me like i'm crazy lol

it happens during woken state. if you would like to try please be my guest. let me know what i would need to do or if you would need to talk to me on aim or yahoo.
thanks for your help.

ive read a few of the posts here where people do not believe me. i'm a 25 almost year old professional and i honestly do not have time to act immature and come to a place like this with a made up story just to take up peoples time.
if that is the state of mind you are in (the negative responces) then so be it but i'm not in that state of mind and i know i am not making this up and i know i'm not crazy.

anyways anvil thank you again.

i never told her about this stuff in this great of detail.
i did ask her after i had moved into that room why she wanted to switch and i remember her mentioning something about the room
was just too small for her and i said well since i moved in there i've been having bad dreams everynight and she said she did also but
that they had stopped.

maybe that means it was affecting her also but maybe she was too embarassed to say anything to me about it sorta like i am with her.

Unknown, I'll send you a pm tomorrow with my messenger addy or we can meet in the chatroom on this site - is it possible for you to chat to me from this specific room, or at least the building?

Anvil does rock ya know!
cant hurt to try if you feel threatened or maybe you can learn to controll it w/Anvils help, cant hurt!!!................B

thanks. tomorrow i work very late so i honestly do not know when i will be on the board again. but please do pm me and when im on and see you on also i will be able to chat with you.
the next few days at work are going to be crazy lol so i dunno when i'll be online really.

thanks barek, hopefully she can help me learn how to control it.
honesly that is all i want. i'm a very curious person myself and all i want to do is make it stop bothering me physically i dont care if it hangs around whatever it is.. i just want to not feel scared and i do not want it to slap me the playing with the hair is ok but no slapping me or making me scared.

Ok not a problem, whenever it suits you

I have done that with "unknown things" I felt around me before and that always worked with most of them...



Ok, that is when I would have stopped feeling sorry for it and wanting to help it... NO ONE should slap anyone around! Real or Paranormal... if it's attacking you it's not interested in your help, it sounds like it's found his new victim and he's stalking you to hurt you for whatever reason...

Could also be: Demon= someones violent ex-something that won't let go and move on... he sounds like an angry spirit whos not interested in finding the light anytime soon... I would definately look for someone who knows more about getting rid of such nasties.



Don't be embarassed, it's not your fault this thing has attached itself to you, I really hope you can find someone to help you out there, and in the meantime let it know you are done trying to help and stand up for yourself by asking it to leave NOW, let it know it won't scare you anymore.




I think Barek is on to something!

I met a woman who had problems with some very negative spirits and she also told me the same thing, it worked for her to face them and let them know she'd had it with their intrusions. I was told she called them all kinds of nasty things and really gave them some verbal abuse and they started leaving her alone.

I myself have never had to resort to that and will always ask them with the same respect I would like to be treated with, to leave my home as I can't help them. It always worked, but then I have never met with any such violent spirits. I'm sorry you are going through that now and hope you can find some help soon.

your halfway there kweenie!........B







barek wonders if the "coven"chix ride Vroom Brooms like wichiepoo (HRPnS)

ARE YOU SERIOUS?

I would seriously contact someone from a church. please don't feel stupid talking about your problem that's what this place is for! Hell if anything this is the one place where people won't think your crazy! anyhoo- stop doing the spells, girl for all you know you may be adding fuel to the fire. im sorry you haveto deal with this, I would be pissed off, and freaked out. please keep us updated on your problem. good luck & God Bless You!

Why is it assumed this thing is male?


Sometimes things can escalate quickly, surely it's best to try and get some help now rather than wait for it to become unbearable? I understand your fears and guilt regarding its feelings, but yours are much more important in this case. I'm interested in how you knew it was a "slap" even though it was relatively lightly felt, this to me shows that you know deep down it wasn't being playful. That and the sense of fear you get when its around. I too have had experience with spirits, and have only ever had one negative experience, I moved house. I also have a spirit who follows me (as in visits now and then, the following part refers to the fact I change houses and he still comes) He's completely benign though, my husband and brother in law have both had contact with him. There's a definite sense of knowing when he's around, but always a calm feeling. Anyways, I'm getting off subject here, what I want to say is that if you feel uneasy or scared when its around then don't put up with it, never mind if it slaps you or not. Prolonged tension can affect the health and all sorts, its not good.

no im not serious,just thought that unknown 2012 might need cheering up a wee bit,it probably really is scaring her,so i thought that a bit of light heartedness would do that,no offence or indeed sexist intentions were meant,sorry unknown 2012.

What I know about violent hauntings is that they are usually just a play of events that have happened before in that particular area, or to a particular type of person. Many people who recieve violent paranormal attacks are usually somehow more suseptable to this type of haunting....the spirit, ghost or memory isn't nessecarily pinpointing you as a victim, your just the only one able to 'feel' it. If there were four of you with the same level of sensitivity in the same room, chances are all four of your counter-parts would experiance the same sensations.

There have even been cases of "haunted rape" in which a mother and a daughter reported the feeling of being held down and sexually violated, but the mother experianced far less severe encounters than the daughter. This is an example of what could be a differiniation of levels of sensitivity, the mother being less sensitive than the daughter.

I don't believe it's a matter of 'getting rid' of the spirit, but blocking yourself off from receving these types of encounters. I could be wrong, of course, it's a somewhat vague area of discussion, with the only reliable information documented witness. And, you know, everyone percieves things in their own way.

I know your here because you want advice on what to do, but if we all sat down and fed you information on everything we know about violent hauntings (and that seems to be what this is, a rather violent haunting) it would take too long and too many people have too many opinions. Here's the thing, I see that you have access to internet, and you most likely have access to a library; research, Research, RESEARCH.

If it were me in your position I would want to know everything about every documented haunting that I could get my desperate little hands on. It's the only way to REALLY have an idea of what your dealing with. You are the only one who knows exactly what your experiancing, you're the only one who can relate to one hundred percent of what's going on.

I understand that research can be extremely misleading and sometimes confusing, but it's the only way to have an outer understanding of what's happening to you compared to what others like yourself have gone through.

Try searches like: paranormal attack, violent hauntings, demon attacks, and even try some reading up on myths about entities that focus on harming humans (you know, believe it or not, myths and legends are a distorted version of a once truth)

I hope you can find something useful before these attacks get worse. And violent hauntings always get worse.

[quote] name='Nicole Green' post='1513857' date='Jan 24 2007, 09:14 AM']What I know about violent hauntings is that they

There have even been cases of "haunted rape" in which a mother and a daughter reported the feeling of being held down and sexually violated, but the mother experianced far less severe encounters than the daughter. This is an example of what could be a differiniation of levels of sensitivity, the mother being less sensitive than the daughter.


[quote]hello Nicole!
anything that is a of a preditory or sadistic nature is a demonic or Evil in nature disturbance!....................B







shout to Cleveland peeps
RMG rawks -Stave-

I'd say I agree with Swamp on this one... I wouldn't be surprised if it is something spiritual, but a doctor can at least provide some foundational knowledge before you go seek out a pastor/priest. I would have to agree with Sunny on this one in that you'll probably find that this is something demonic. I've had encounters with the demonic before and the only thing that seems to help is Christian methods of dealing with it.

Also, don't feel embarassed - other people know what I wrote as my first thread

Best,
-Uraeus

I would suggest that you do minimal research, then decide what the best route is to go down. If you delve deep into this kind of stuff, it is possible (not necessarily always true) that it can make things worse if you don't really know what you're doing. Instead, get a small idea of what's going on and pass it along to a doctor or a priest, or someone you trust and have them do some research on it. Having someone else who knows what they're doing helps a lot and can protect you from having a spirit gain a better foothold on you from delving too deep.

-Uraeus

well i say it's male i dunno why really. just like your spirit that follows you that is how this thing is with me. sometimes it's gone for a few days then it comes back. i had moved out twice now moved to an apartment and now to a different house and it still comes around.
i've not had alot of experience with spirits that is why i do not know i guess what it feels like or what a nice spirit feels like.
somehow i just knew it was a slap maybe though it was just a touch but i really just feel it was a slap.
i've only seen two spirits before in my life and i was scared just because i saw them but i didn't get a bad feeling from them. when this thing is around i do get a very scared feeling a different scared feeling. an uneasy feeling i suppose is best to describe it.

What did these 2 spirits that you've seen look like?
Were you awake?

my two friends who know a bit about this sorta thing both said it's a demon.
why in the world would i have a demon following me , thats what i dont understand. i've seen movies about demon and all and hauntings whatever and it's not that bad like in the movies.
nothing flys around doors dont slam and so on. i dont get pinned down or thrown up against walls.
when i think of a demon that is the type of stuff i think of.

what causes demons to come around? i mean is it something i did ? i have done spells before for quiet some time now but usually only candle magic and it's never anything bad or selfish.

yes both times i was awake. the first one was probably a good 4 or 5 years ago or maybe a bit longer , anyways..
i was going to my boyfriends bathroom and i saw a guy standing there in the door way. i dont remember exactly how he looked but it was sorta clear and white at the same time.

the second one was at my old apartment about a year and half ago i was sleeping on the couch b/c i had been scared to sleep in my room b/c of some ap's i had had and false awakenings. it was in the morning time and i woke up for real woke up and just saw the guy sitting on my bar stool looking at me. he had glasses on and short hair. thats all i remember about him. i got up to turn on another light and he was gone.
at first i thought it was my room mate but he didn't answer me then i looked closer and saw it wasn't him that is when i got up to turn on the light.

I still think that if you're getting any negative feeling you shouldn't encourage it in any way. Trust your instincts, if something feels wrong it generally is. As you said, the previous encounter you had felt nothing like this. I hope you get something sorted out soon, I don't know if it'll help or not but I'm sending good thoughts your way

Sounds like the "demon" is somehow authorized to be in that room or house for some reason. Something some previous resident may have done, and it's fair to assume that you don't yet have the knowledge authority to make it leave because you don't know the method that brought it anyway. It's clearly NOT wary of you at all. A lot of times people can unknowingly allow demons to "attach" to them by continuously entertaining certain negative thoughts & actions. Over time this cultivates their interest in an individual. It sounds lame but if you look at repetitive behavior as the same as a ritual like they would you can see why.

If you play certain music or movies that happen to speak actual real incantations, that can attract demonic activity. Understanding it's not like demons are people and will say, "Oh my bad, I thought you were talking to me. I see now it's just a song, or an actor saying it, let me ignore it because the words don't really mean anything." Words will always be effective, which is why the same incantations are passed down through time. THere's no need to revise, you know. That's not to say you'll get open a portal to hell or anything , but you will without a doubt get something(s) attention. (I have no advice on how you can tell the real incantaions from the fake b/c it varies, and it's too much work for me to try personally. If I start to feel a little creepy off of some intelligable words I'm hearing I just skip it. Go with your instincts, better to be safe right?) This has gotten too long...So anyway...

Certain symbols & objects you wear or may have in your house that you think are merely decorative can cause demonic activity depending on their backgrounds. These can actually be a sort of "portal" or beacon to them, for lack of better words. Especially if you like items from other cultures that you don't educate yourself about. If you have something like that remove it. If you've gotten yourself an ancient cultural tattoo that you didn't research first...good luck on trying to get rid of that sucker...

To me, based on your story, it sounds as if "the entity" were already there in the house when you first came, but there is either something you do -or don't do that keeps it more attached to you than your sis, and allows it to be more interactive with you.

Good luck with this. Hope this was a little helpful

I don't think it does sound like a demon, however I had a few interesting moments after finnishing with this thread last night - was picking up on something, I think you may have an owl spirit around you, will be able to tell more when I get to chat to you.

I would question your 2 friends...........what exactly makes them knowledgeable in this field?

The real problem that I have here is that if you ask 20 different people what's going on, you'll get 20 different answers.
Hell, I just read one post that said you had an "owl" spirit around you! How do you get that from being in a chat-room with someone?
See a doctor if you experience auditory or visual hallucinations, and see a leader that shares your faith. This won't be solved by your 2 friends, or through a chat-room. (Unless of course YOU decide it will, in which case it was likely in your head and YOU chose to stop it, consciously or subconsciously).

All hauntings are different, as well as each spirit in the spiritual world. Some entities may be more intense/more powerful than others, but that is not to say that your particular situation won't increase its intensity with time, it may very well. Have you seen an increase, even a small one, since you first noticed its presence? These things are known to esculate. Imo, many things can cause demonic influence, or harassement in our lives-- I personally don't think anyone is immune to such experiences. & as far as that "candle magic" goes I'd put a hault on that ASAP, just in case. imo

Hey your intitled to your opinion, but don't knock what you don't know about

What I do know about, is the many different possibilities here, and the potential for real harm to oneself, from this "demon", from ones self, and from people who want to help!

The help I'm offering is not harmful to anyone.

and anvil has helped already and we've not gotten to talk much. the way she's helped me already is by letting me speak and not
telling me to see a doctor or making me out to be some wako.

i do believe people can do many things through a chat room or through an im. it's all about energy and will.

i have healed people through an im, i do know them so i have a connection but i know even without that connection it can be done.

everyone has their own thoughts on this and that is fine , i have my thoughts on things also besides this and some thing i do not believe in,
but i never say anything is untrue or crazy b/c i do not know.
just because it sounds far out and not "normal" doesn't mean it's not happening and doesn't mean it's not true.

sunny,

yes i have noticed an increase. the only reason i started this "candle magic" was first to cleanse my house of anything negative. after that i started regular cleansings which helped alot.
when i feel this thing come back , i do another cleansing. i still do my "candle magic" for things such as keeping negative energy away or protecting me, keeping me balanced.
if i've been greatly stressed i also do this "candle magic".
i am not retarded and know a great deal about magic , true magic. i do not do stupid childish magic spells to be cool. actually i very very very rarely do any type of magic or "candle magic" at all, unless i feel i need to to help myself or help someone i care about and if they've asked me to.

i know i've not brought this thing on , i've done nothing that could have brought it on.
still i stand firm on my belief that this thing is not completly evil. i've seen and felt it's angry stages and i know what causes them.
that type of stuff stops as long as i do not provoke it.

i do still however feel it around me when its here and i do still feel scared or uneasy. that is the feeling i want to go away.
the thing refuses to leave and it gets pretty pissed if i or anyone else tries to make it go away.
it hates being talked about also.

it's like if i left it alone and didnt try to make it leave and just learned to deal with the uneasy feeling then it wouldn't hurt me or anything.. it's like it would just stay and watch me.

i want to know why it is watching me what does it want and why does it not give me the one thing i ask which it to just not make me feel scared or uneasy.

anyways back to this "candle magic", when all of this first started i was having horrible sp attacks from out of nowhere first time in my life, i started haveing ap's and i did not even know back then what they were. i used to call everything dreams.

i finally had an sp attack and something picked me up off my bed. i was horrified i couldn't sleep i was tired from no sleep i called out from work b/c of no sleep. i remember refusing to go to sleep i remember taking vacation just b/c i knew i wouldn't sleep and i would be so tired.

i remember drinking coffee and staying out late so i wouldn't go to sleep , the only way i went to sleep is when my body gave up and made me then guess what ..
sp and ap and horrible dreams started again.

finally i was sick of it when the thing picked me up from my bed and then i actually saw this thing it was a black blob thing in the corner of my room.
i remembered that day i had seen a new age store not far from my house.
never even knew anythng about those places or anything about any of this type of stuff. i figured if anyone could help me they could b/c i knew these were not dreams.

i stick to my basic cleansings which have been the only thing that seems to help at all. i do burn my black and white candles and it does work for me.
but lately it's starting to not work any longer.

i've lived with this thing for 2 1/2 yrs now or maybe a bit longer.
and honestly i'm about over it and i feel as though when it does come back im going to go up its ass.

from what i've read that would probably be a great thing to do.

Well, to me it sounds like you haven't done anything wrong there... Some may disagree, but in my opinion simple cleansing and helping others shouldn't attract unwelcome attention.



It probably isn't "evil" in the standard sense, so little in this world is either black or white, why shouldn't the spirit world be different? I believe that there are as many different spirit personalitles as there are human ones, and it's very rare to get one that's 100% either good or evil. My take on it is that a spirit will stay connected if it has a reason to - doesn't just have to be a classically "traumatic" experience. Anvil's owl comment was interesting, we've had a spirit here once that felt wrong, but not scary, it was like it didn't understand what we were trying to say. We felt fear from it more than anything, and it finally left when my husband opened a window and asked it to leave. Have you tried using actions rather than words? Although from what you're saying there does seem to be an intelligence there rather than a lack of understanding from it. For instance, getting upset at being asked to leave you could understand, but the fact it hates you even talking about it suggests to me that there's something else going on here. Why would someone not want to be talked about? The main reason I can think of is a fear of being found out in some way, there are other reasons, that's just the one that seems to fit for me.