Is this book you're thinking of called the Necronomicon??
Seriously though, what is the point of even considering this topic? At best, you'll come out feeling depressed. OK, this is a kind of extreme view - on the one hand, to believe that such a book does exists means that nothing you do has any meaning; there would be no such thing as individuality and your entire life would just be some crazy farce orchestrated by the man upstairs for who knows what reason. If you have a rotten life, that would just mean that god must hate you - otherwise you wouldn't have been alotted this fate (yes, this analysis is a tad on the cynical side...can you spot the atheism? ).
If on the other hand, the idea of predestination is completely bogus to you and you believe that that you can control your own destiny, does that mean that there's no such thing as good and evil, or right and wrong? Does that also mean that if your world goes pear-shaped, it's your own doing??
To look at it another way: by attempting to control your own life, you could just be reinforcing the idea of fate - it was your destiny to react that way.
Blah this topic is as confusing as the timeline in the original Terminator movie...or the bible...didn't God give Adam and Eve free will knowing in advance that they would eat the apple? So, who's really responsible? And why is he punishing Satan if he knew he would revolt - as seen through the construction of Hell beforehand. Ah, but that's a different kettle of fish.
Sorry if this is incoherent but i think it's best to tackle these sort of issues when you're between states of consciousness

Frankly, there are too many diversions for me to even think about these books. I don't even care much about reading earthly books, let alone otherworldly books. Books or not, I have bills to pay and people to know (all over) and care about. Basically, I have no guilty feelings to worry about, to be erased, to be jotted down, to be expanded, to be dumbed down. Besides, my God is never petty. If my life is already written down, then wonderful, perfect, amazing. God is supreme, eurika! I won't lose sleep over my life. It is what it is. My ignorance is my bliss at the same time. My ignorance is my God's gift. My life would be such a bore if I knew its course already. If my life affects others, then bully for all of us -- I soldier on, regardless. I don't give myself an award, pat my back, nor expect to be worshipped, unlike other people. On the other hand, I respect those who live their lives worrying about these invisible books, as long as I don't have to be around them. Peace.

Yes, we are using our LIMITED-TO-DESCRIBE-THE-INFINITE language. Exactly.

As for me, my life was already written.
I'm here on earth without my will to live but i am living.
Therefore there must be a line to cross to go to the other side. I have no choice but to thread this line...but carefully. My question is...whats on the other side?
Okay, since i am here and there is something on the other side or there must be something. Well you know i have no choice and i have to go straight as much as possible but the road was dangerous. Do i have to go straight or walk another path which is less streesful but long. I've tried a shorcut (kill myself) but didn't work.
Ahh !!! i'm forced to go all along. Is that a free will? NO!!! it's against my will. Well, as i travelled the long and winding road, i see beautiful things in there and i apppreciated it. Then i started questioning myself...who made those beautiful things? Ahh!!! maybe the one on the other side. Well, if there's no one in there? I think i don't have to worry about that, i'll be there anyway. Like to add some more but i'm in a hurry to go to work.

i still am a firm believer of making your own paths, you see everyone do it everyday and with my empathetic side i feel peoples control in life and there ultimate determination of choice,we make our own fate and with every action and way we move in our life determines a outcome.really i shouldn't say i believe ,i know! unfortunately...sorry i just had to say that!

Well, based on some esoteric readings that I've encountered, before you entered the physical dimension your soul made the decision to be born in this world. Thus, there is still free will and you chose to be born here.

Question: Seriously though, what is the point of even considering this topic?
Answer: Unexplained-Mysteries.com

"it's best to tackle these sort of issues when you're between states of consciousness"

Nah...Its best to tackle these issues when your high

Your life is not already written. Stupid topic.

Pretty much everything on these forums are strange,unbelievable or just plain nonsense. Thanks for sharing your intellectual insight on this one.....
Keep running on that treadmill.......

Well a lot of other topics I can handle a discussion about. But saying there's a chance that your life has completely been predetermined is absolutely ridiculous.

Personally i do believe in fate, nobody is in control, the choices you think you make are already made for you. We are just folowing our design untill we move on.

The book The Goldilocks Enigma covers alot of this. Fascinating to read if you have the time, he talks about and explains why the universe is just right for life and the connection with mathmatics to life.

Its a good attitude to take if you never want to take repsonsibilty for your actions. You ALWAYS have a choice, even if it is one you don't like.

I personnaly feel that that is how it is, If the action you take is positive or negative it has already been made for you. Its a great question to which nobody has a difinitive answer. I have made a choice to reply to this but had i not i feel that was how it was meant to be.

Well, yes your life is written in your astrology chart. But it only shows the paths you have, you also have free will. So, it's a yes and no answer.

So what you are saying is....It is written...just depends what path you choose right?

hey i juss red your input but my opinion that is.................... every one has choices and chances to do what ever the frick ya want.... where ever you look you have a choice and chances to make the only problem here is you always have to live with the choices you make.... so i dont think something so complex of evryones choice is in a book is higly unlikly

As for me, my life was already written.
No matter how hard i try to achieve want i wanted in this life, it is not gonna happen then i learned to accept or just go with the flow. It is much easier now for me to travel my destiny because i know my life was already written. And one day you will encounter, you have no free will.

^^^ It's just a bit sad that you've given up in life because you don't have the determination to get what you want, but don't try to convince others to do the same.

I challenge you to become a president and see how much determination you have in your life.
I will give you 100 years to do it. You are the one sad hearing this while i was enjoying the passing of time because my life was already written.

As of this moment I'm starting a club of the "people who think the person who posted above me must have a sorry excuse for a life with no meaning for living of any kind is is trying to infect others with his/her negativity". I declare myself....PRESIDENT.

Didn't take 100 years, only took a minute, thanks for the challenge.

If you think your life is already written, stop doing anything. Stop eating, stop wearing clothes, just stop performing any task of any kind. I bet you still will do these things, because you choose to. When you go to a fast food store, don't order anything, because your life is already written and whatever meal you were meant to eat will accidentally be dropped in your lap. When you go to work, just sit there and bounce a tennis ball. If you were meant to keep that job then everybody else will somehow not notice you doing nothing and you won't get fired.

I guess the only reason you would believe that your life is already predetermined is because you tried for something, failed and instead of finding some inner courage or determination, played if off as "prewritten" because you can't accept that you failed. That's what is totally sad. The rest of us are having a great time succeeding, you're stuck in your predetermined world. Try to enjoy it please...

Oops double post.....it was meant to be I suppose.

With regard to the original post, wouldn't it be a rather large book, but also what would be the reason for writing it down?

you see ? you just can't stop anything because it is written.

Wow! It's funny you replied to that post and not to the one above it. No answer?

If my life is already written, I'd rather it be a Spielberg production. With dinosaurs.

I saw it somewhere in the book of life.
A dinosaur eating ivy. Your life was written before and you have another book this time.

I totally beleive in that. but like Ganja Guru said


[quote name='GanjaGuru' date='Jan 23 2007, 02:53 PM' post='1512877']
You refer to destiny and no I do not beleive this.
There is no fate but what you make!

everyone forms their own future. So really you can both be right. I think that if there is a book that it writes itself as you go on through life.

Michael Drosnin's books..'The Bible Code' and 'The Bible Code 2' are about such a book.

Just for the record....they are not religious books and Drosnin is not a religious person.(neither am I)

I found these books facinating. Apparently you can buy some sort of computer programme and look up your own name. There is loads about these books on the internet.

The modern discoverer of the bible code is Eliyahu Rips. Isaac Newton believed the bible code existed and spent lots of time searching for it. But it was the invention of the computer that made it possible to find/examine.

These quotes are from 'The Bible Code 2'...page 11...

"Rips discovered the Bible code in the original Hebrew version of the Old Testament..............."

"Rips eliminated all the spaces between the words, and turned the entire original Bible into one continuous letter strand, 304,805 letters long."

"Rips wrote a computer program that searched the strand of letters for new information revealed by skipping any equal number of letters."

The Bible Code 3 is coming out this spring...I think it's called 'The Quest.'

Can't wait........

^^^ Haha!

I think i am the first one who discovered it using my family's name as told by an Alien long time ago.
Before Drosnin wrote it. Ha..ha..

Reply to first post: Is my life already written?

Sometimes I think so, and sometimes I would like to be, and sometimes I play to the delusion that I am the master of my own destiny.

The truth of the matter is, none of us is the master of our own destiny. The world around us dedicates how we will develop and what we'll become. Parents, family and friends, environment, schooling, literature, the media, even luck, all play a factor in our up-bringing. But I would like to believe that Hope is the determining factor, the hope that a person can make a better life for themselves away from the crummy existence they are living now.

Yes, I'm referring to my own life.

Yes all of those things you mentioned contribute to your life. More specifically, they affect the outcome of your choices. However, the choices you make in life are still your choices and nothing has been written for you.

A man born into poverty, if he chooses to work hard every day of his life can become a millionaire. Or he can remain in poverty. There's no way anybody can know that their life is already written. If they believe so, then it's up to them, but it takes away hope and motivation, leading to them living a life that isn't as ideal as they could have if they didn't believe in such rubbish.

Can you show me a mathematical formula for this coz i wanted to be a millionaire.
You might help me.

Wow....what a clever response. You've convinced me, thanks for opening my eyes.

Seriously, use your imagination. So many things can happen if you make the effort.

I believe everything is a matter of cause and effect controlling us while our thoughts are merely serving the illusion of free will yes.

The universe is behaving how the universe is supposed to behave and so are each and everyone of us.

Deep down.

(that's what i mean when i say all life is really dead, my life is just as automatic as that plants life, and that plants life is just as automatic as the suns life, as a corn of sands life and so on... .)

I think becoming a millionaire is a bit of an over simplification as an example. Becoming more successful is one thing through diligence, but becoming a millionaire is another thing. But I understand your point of you can improve your life through choice.
You do not have to something, there is always a choice. Even if you don't like either option, there is always a choice.

Our lives are already written. My reasons for saying this is because ever since a traumatic experience a few years ago I have been able to see visions of the future. When these visions come sometimes they make little to no sense, however they still come to pass exactly as I see them, despite me seeing them and possibly being able to change the future after seeing what is "supposed to happen." Thus my reasoning tells me that the future is already written.

Hmmm... I have often wondered about this myself. Prewritten lives..it kinda takes the freewill out of life. In some ways it would be nice to know you were destined for greatness, on the otherhand, I would like to know I got there through my own blood, sweat and tears. just a thought.

Thanks for that Incubus420....I saw something on the TV a while back about a very down-to-earth man, who had an accident on the road...had head injuries and from then on had premonitions and visions of the future.

I think there's soooo much we have to learn about TIME.

However I forgot to mention that, you are able to change the future, I have had visions where bad stuff would happen and if enough effort was put into it it could be changed and a new vision would transpire and this process could be repeated until desired. I know this contradicts my last post but think of it this way, our lives are already written but 'they' (they authors) knew what we would (and will) have chosen ahead of time. Another example, we are on a huge intricate highway, all of us going to where will ultimately be our final destination, if you know where you are going you can change lanes but then again technically your life is already written so 'they' knew you were going to make a change in your life that would alter its course but that means that unless you can see the future and you knew that your life was definitely going to end another way, it was going to end that way all along since life is already written. It is confusing I know but I have had plenty of time to study it upon receiving this "gift" for a lack of a better word, sometimes it can seem like a curse due to some of the more confusing paradoxes associated with time and a few other strange circumstances that surround what I call my life.

You ALWAYS have a choice. You may not like any of the options, but the choice is always there.

Not only is your life not 'written", it is, despite our stongest desires and inclinations, totally at the mercy of chaotic, random forces. As none of these forces are predestined, neither can our lives be. We can of course influence the course of our life instantly and over the long term, by the choices we make. It is only the complex nature of our minds which leads us to speculate that, because we are such important entities, there must be a grand plan for us. Now, none of this precludes visions of a future, although such futures must by their nature be mutable/changeable. Neither does it preclude entities or an entity, which can calculate all possible futures and have/has the power to influence our life at critical junctures. After all, why is a lightning strike called an "act of god". Some times inexplicable forces influence our lives, and occasionally they make this known to us through direct communication.

Ok since i don't know who you are, your age and what you do in life. I'll give you a hint of what i do.
I work 14 hours a day mon-fri. I pay mortgage of 600 a week
while earning 14 hundred clear money a week. I pay 2T interest a month. Now give me an equation to make me a millionaire? During my past experience i have a business. Business is the only way that you can go to the top, but...you can't get there if you're not clever or cunning.
I am a talented person in many ways but doing bad things to make me succesful is not my way.
I am a fair man therefore i cannot do business.


Show me an effort. Let us say i will work 24/7. Can you calculate how much i am gonna spend and save ?

I will say that you still had a choice before you got into the financial area you are now! Simply put you did not have to make the choices you did to be in the situation you are in now, It was all up to you to keep going or make a change.

~Moro

Or should we say...i have no choice. Stopping or changing lanes is a sure death, know what i mean?

That is still a choice.

When God (if you believe in the God of the bible, Yahweh) in Genesis 11 confused the language of man.

Gen 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
Gen 11:8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
Gen 11:9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

From there I believe man had free will taken away from him. He doesn't have any more free will!
What does that mean, though?
To be scattered about and not understanding others language?
Hmmm. . . does it mean that you can't understand what I'm saying?
I think everybody is going to argue with that and say 'You're wrong. It can't be like that!'
That's my point!

Yes...a one way choice.