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Thirtyseven
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=...line-news_rss20

Pretty amazing story:

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A species of moth drinks tears from the eyes of sleeping birds using a fearsome proboscis shaped like a harpoon, scientists have revealed. The new discovery – spied in Madagascar – is the first time moths have been seen feeding on the tears of birds.
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Tear-feeding moths and butterflies are known to exist elsewhere in Africa, Asia and South America, but they mainly feed on large, placid animals, such as deer, antelope or crocodiles, which cannot readily brush them away. But there are no such large animals on Madagascar.

...sleeping birds have two eyelids, both closed. So instead of the soft, straw-like mouthparts found on tear-drinking moths elsewhere, the Madagascan moth has a proboscis with hooks and barbs “shaped like an ancient harpoon”, Hilgartner says.

This can be inserted under the bird’s eyelids, where the barbs anchor it, apparently without disturbing the bird. The team does not yet know whether the insect spits out an anaesthetic to dull the irritation. They also want to investigate whether, like their counterparts elsewhere, the Madagascan tear-drinkers are all males who get most of their nutrition from the tears.
m. Moe
Do they live on tears alone? Thats pretty cool. thumbsup.gif
liokee
Wow, that IS pretty cool, not to mention milding disturbing. I wonder if the birds know? Do they wake up with bloodshot eyes? tongue.gif
Mattshark
That is very strange, it is right up there with the nemtode worms evolved to live off the beer in beer mats.
IamsSon
This is evolution? blink.gif How in the world did one creature develop in such a way that it would feed on the tears of another animal which would also have been in the process of evolving? wacko.gif
m. Moe
QUOTE(IamsSon @ Jan 26 2007, 12:36 PM) [snapback]1516948[/snapback]
This is evolution? blink.gif How in the world did one creature develop in such a way that it would feed on the tears of another animal which would also have been in the process of evolving? wacko.gif

I don't think it lives on tears alone.Or I could be wrong.
Mattshark
QUOTE(IamsSon @ Jan 26 2007, 07:36 PM) [snapback]1516948[/snapback]
This is evolution? blink.gif How in the world did one creature develop in such a way that it would feed on the tears of another animal which would also have been in the process of evolving? wacko.gif

Easy source of water and ions.
blood on the kris
weird moth.... and nice sniper kitty moe! =D
glassvampire
Ah, the strange beauty of nature
m. Moe
QUOTE(Mattshark @ Jan 26 2007, 06:28 PM) [snapback]1517458[/snapback]
Easy source of water and ions.

Isn't there plenty of water in Madagascar though?

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weird moth.... and nice sniper kitty moe! =D

Thanks! thumbsup.gif
Mattshark
QUOTE(MR_MOE @ Jan 29 2007, 03:11 PM) [snapback]1520860[/snapback]
Isn't there plenty of water in Madagascar though?

Yes, but it is not akways accessable and tears are filled with salts which are also very important.
CaitSith
My wife hates moths with a bizzare phobia that I just dont get. She'd really hate them if she knew they sustained themselves on the tears of others.
Raptor
QUOTE(IamsSon @ Jan 26 2007, 07:36 PM) [snapback]1516948[/snapback]
This is evolution? blink.gif How in the world did one creature develop in such a way that it would feed on the tears of another animal which would also have been in the process of evolving? wacko.gif


I think the relationship is commensalistic, in that case the fact that the bird is evolving would be irrelevant.
Mattshark
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Jan 29 2007, 07:25 PM) [snapback]1521207[/snapback]
I think the relationship is commensalistic, in that case the fact that the bird is evolving would be irrelevant.

You don't have to evolve to have a parasite do you.
Raptor
^I presumed the point IamsSon was getting at was the fact that the bird hadn't evolved a form of defense to protect against the moth.
Mattshark
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Jan 29 2007, 08:39 PM) [snapback]1521294[/snapback]
^I presumed the point IamsSon was getting at was the fact that the bird hadn't evolved a form of defense to protect against the moth.

Well such things take a long, long, long, long time to evolve and if the parasitism is not doing it any damage it wouldn't make a difference. Not all parasitism is bad for an animal.
Raptor
^Yeah, that's what I said. Commensalism is a form of symbiotic relationship from which one organism benefits, while the other is unaffected.
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