As a Christian with an inquisitive nature I have often pondered unrevealed knowledge. Questions that have no answers in recorded scripture. Such as ‘are new souls being created or do they have a pre-existence before birth?’ Much knowledge is revealed after first coming by faith. This I believe is a form of protection for such new knowledge.

A war has been raging behind the scenes for perhaps a millennium. And during times of war there is purpose and requirement for the term “on a need to know basis”. Soldiers and their leaders need to know enough about a particular campaign to accomplish the given mission, yet not all the information is revealed in case they were to fall into enemy hands or are deceived by lies.

Mat 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

This scripture almost appears paradoxical in its claim, until one removes themselves momentarily from the battlefield.
God is fully able to protect His written word from the evil hearts of some men and the enemy whether they profess to be Christian or not. And only He alone truly knows the nature of ones heart and motivation behind their involvement behind spiritual endeavors.

Even The words of the scriptures are a great puzzle that was dismantled to protect it from corruption, only the individual who truly asks with an earnest desire and a need to know the truth will be given the keys to understanding of the written word. (Arriving by faith)
Many can quote the Bible word for word (including the devil himself) but few understand its meanings and purpose.

There are two keys to understanding, one is in the heart of mankind and the other is held by the Holy Spirit of God. The first key is attained by free will and a desire to know the truth (the heart). The Holy Spirit holds the second key to protect it from corruption and counter attack by the enemy until they are delivered to the born again soul shortly after acceptance of redemption. (The inward dwelling of the Holy Spirit) A measure and a right that confirms that the individual soul is no longer a part of the enemy’s camp or perhaps a spy. Because the enemy is unable to declare that “Jesus Christ is Lord” They can quote scriptures and appear righteous and full of goodness, (as angels of light) yet their hearts are unable to proclaim this simple declaration of faith.

Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, [and] to turn [them] from darkness to light, and [from] the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

Some of you will claim this is ileitis and unfair to those that lacks the full knowledge of the gospels. But as the old saying goes, “all is fair in love and war” and we are at war because of that love.
The full truth can not be revealed until the enemy of the truth is destroyed.

Your thoughts?
Irish

What exactly are you saying? I'm a tad confused.


Are you saying that one must have full faith and knowledge of scripture in order to have this "knowledge revealed" ?

Much like strategy during times of war knowledge itself is a commodity. We do not always see the complete picture until the war is won. The people of Germany did not know the final outcome of the conflict until the war was declared won by the allies. Their knowledge was dictated and influenced by those that the rest of the world considered the enemy. Today they are our friends and allies.
We are required to have faith first in order to make sense of the scriptures (the revealed knowledge).

Irish

Not being a Christian I don't seek wisdom from the Bible. All revealed religions are limited to the knowledge of the founders. I seek my knowledge from the Earth, the Universe and the realm of magic. I don't expect to learn it all, only what I need in this life, but what I have learned so far has taken me far beyond the limits of the Bible. Each person must seek knowledge in their own way if your way is the Bible then so be it, and good luck to you.

Well from what some Angels said new souls arnt created. Most think those angels that told Dee this were demons. But what would be the point in lying about this info, he didnt ask I think they told him. And then again Dee and Kelly could have been a lil crazy.

Jesus Christ is Lord = Willing to obey and do his will .

Most do not Accept Jesus as Lord .

Who so ever beleaves in him means more then to know who he was . Satan knew who he was .

It beans to beleave in his Way , His Laws , His wisdom . Obey him and his Commands .


The Bible i don't think is wrote for every body to understand.I'm sure God could of Wrote a plainer book . And he could of put us on a Satanless earth if he wanted also .


Why did Christ Speak in Parables?

Why dont you read the Last Testament and see, maybe it will answer some of your questions? By last testament I mean the Quran ;p dont get mad Irish lol.

Nova scotia maybe because someone was supposed to come after Christ and explain things more? After all, didnt Christ say that the comforter will "speak" not inspire?

Muslim you will have no problem convenceing me to Submit myself to God . To obey his laws.


But you will never see me taking a koran serious . Maybe you should look over real christianity instead of Romes children .


You don't know who the comforter is ? read john 14 :18 I will not leave you comfortless :I will come to you .

Thats wrote in red in my bible so spoken by Christ .

Gal : 4:6 And because ye are sons God hath sent forth the spirit of HIS SON into our hearts crying Abba ,Father

Philippians :1:19 For I know that this shall turn to my Salvation through your prayer, and a supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ

1 peter : 1;11 searching what ,or what manner of time the spirit of Christ which was in them did signify ,when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ ,and the glory that should follow (It was Christ spirit in Prophets of Old)

romans 8 : 9-11 AND IF CHRIST BE IN YOU .

eph 3;17 , phi 4:19

Don't worry muslim alot of christians don't have a clue who the comforter is too .

Because I believe the last testament was written 500 years before Mohamed walked the earth and I evaluate a mans wisdom by their works and teachings. Mohamed may have had the best intentions and conviction to do Gods will. However his history was one of violence and struggle for human power and control, not spiritual enlightenment.

Mohamed taught that man could only gain salvation through his own works, Christ offered Himself as payment, and any works are mere icing on the cake, therefore they are not for any reward but for conviction of the heart because that is what is right to do.

Christ was the completion of the law and prophesies there was no need for another prophet until the time of harvest. There was no room for a messenger for the message had already been delivered in it entirety.

The comforter is also the teacher and revealers of the secret things of God’s overall plan because the comforter is also a part of God Himself, known to Christians as the Holy Spirit.

Irish

its a growing processes .it starts out with faith in him .then as we grow i think he gives us just what we need when we need it .i guess if he gave us a full understanding right off or ever .then we probably wouldnt have a desire to learn and seek for more.sometimes it seems finda funny you read a passage over and over and then just one day outta nowhere revelation is given..(and your like doh) i think sometimes too our flesh gets in the way and gives us hendernce its only naturel for the human mind to think the way it does .why the holy ghost is so important and keeping it in tune.then when you recieve that knowledge of knowing god has given you a revelation its one of the greatest tressures you can have..first knowing it where it came from ..second knowing that no one can take it from you..its yours to keep.use.and protect. the enemy knows the battle knows the layout.but that that he knows is given to us to use against him that already knows everyline everyword .sry if this didnt relate to the Op it just came to thought as i read.

I'm just a wee bit concerned with the militant tone.

Christians proclaiming to be "at war", and drawing comparisions with leadrs and generals.

It doesn't require a great leap to go from 'waging war' against "evil", to declaring hostilities against people........

Relax JMPD1 the war has been raging between good and evil long before there was Christians, Jew or Moslems. I was using methods of warfare as an analogy for revealed truths. I am sure you use the same analogies in your day to day work on the streets and we aren’t overly worried about you declaring hostilities against people........ I hope

All the best Irish

Guerrilla warfare is a formidable opponent to conventional warfare because of these methods. Limited information is held within the ranks of a particular single battalion so as to make infiltration and or annihilation useless.
There is a single purpose that is accomplished by individual groups with separate missions whether political or militaristic in nature. A single mission failure does not affect the eventual goal or outcome of the intended objective of all involved. A need to know basis becomes its greatest weapon.

Irish

The question you are asking why is there a need to seek the truth.
What is this struggle that is hidden between good and evil.
Why is there is a sense that we are being tested in this world.
Why cant we just know what God wants and what is good vs evil.

These are good questions in my opinion they are tough to answer. Why are they tough to answer?? Why ?

Because the answer is simple man does not know!!!

There is no simpler answer than this.

It is something like man would have wondered long time ago
why the sun would rise from the east and set on the west?
Why would a piece of wood float on water yet a pin made out of iron would sink?

But now we know the answers to the above

Does that make us a better
Yes most certainly it does

Man is now able to travel in space
Man is now able to live longer
Man is able to do much more than man was able to do before.

Knowlede is what makes a person a better man

There is no better way to make oneself better is to seek Knowledge

In Quran it is mentioned a lot of places, I am not going to use exact words but interpetation

For people who seek the Truth God will give signs Because man doesnt know the last phrase is used many times

The signs according to Quran are, but only for people that truly seek it(the truth).

You may wanto ask God why do you want to give just hints and sign
there such examples in Quran where man has been given miracles beyond their wildest imaginations but people that choose not to believe or listen just dont get it

The worshipping of the Gold Calf is a good example of it. I mean God saved them from the egyptians parted the red sea gave the food from the heavens but people that wanted to, started worshipping the totally irrelevant.

My point from the above commentry is you cannot just dismiss something because thats what you have been taught to do or trained to do. Arrive at a decision yourself. Think about the truth with an open mind. Just dont go ahead and dismiss things without strong proof.

Like the example you mentioned Germans were so much driven by evil(hitler) at one tiime, the reason. Because thats what they heard, saw, felt, ate, slept around them. But that doesnt mean there werent few that chose not to take the path around them.

For those who believe in a day of ressurection, when everyone will know the truth i think people who missed the truth will say

The truth was that obvious!!!!

The truth is there for people who are sincerely going to search for it

True love isn't the opposite to hate. Because true love is oneness and oneness has no opposite in which to be contrasted to, hence why the many mystics call it formless..... It is from this formlessness that all things have their origin and their return.

In fact there is no return. Everything is there, it's just that many sentient beings don't realize it. As a practicing christian I believe that all the answers you are talking about will fall into proper perspective once we become one with "the kingdom of God within".

LOL! DUH is so right! LOL!

It is pretty simple, once you have the Holy Spirit to guide you. If you don't understand something right away just wait on The Father, and the Spirit will reveal.

You have to have the Holy Spirit, otherwise you'll never understand what The Father is teaching you.

Trying to understand Scriptures without the Holy Spirit is like, well it's like... Going to a Podatrist for Rhinoplasty surgery...Foolish!

"Blessed is the man who has found Wisdom,
And the man who gets understanding;
For gain from it is better
Than gain from silver
and its increase thereof than fine gold!
Mishle 3:13-14 (Proverbs)

amen....the Koran tell its followers to convert or kill...i don't feel like Mohamed came to further enlighten the world through a testamony of Jesus. oh yeah, before you ask, Muslim, i read the Koran a few years ago...

randomhit10

I don't think the Gnosis (Gk. Divine Knowledge) is complete because we are not complete, and we cannot apprehend it (Gnosis) completely until are complete and out of the restrictions of time, space and matter.

Peace,

RadicalGnostic

This is one of the more mature answers I have seen on this thread.

Since my heart could not proclaim this simple declaration of faith..., I'm Jesus' enemy in this so-called love-war??? Me thought Jesus was all about love??? Did my IQ suddenly drop?! Even if Jesus is God, Himself, I don't believe he would actually give anyone this RIGID choice. It sounds so melodramatic, so vintage Hollywood, a la Bette Davis versus Joan Crawford. It's so un-Superstar. Worship me, or despair! I don't think so. It sounds more like another archaic translation..., putting words into Jesus' mouth again. Please, give Jesus a break, he already suffered long enough!!!

I truly believe Jesus is about love because I believe he realized that this world is a perfect machinery to polish us up like gemstones.

The war is inside your mind, Irish, not in your perfect soul. Open up your heart and find someone to really love, go beyond yourself, and perhaps you might even find out that true love is not about war.

+1

And true love is Jesus desiring for us to walk with him, not by force but by choice.
From oblivion we came and should we chose we can return or we can walk with Him into eternity. Both the law and grace exist for eternity. The only thing that has changed since Jesus is that you can be measured by the laws or take the umbrella of grace; it’s a free will choice.

Life is a gift of God you have chosen to accept the finite version of it or you would not still be with us. Live it to the fullest, laugh, play and make friends and leave a lasting legacy of your life toward the pursuit of goodness, not for any eventual rewards but because it is the right thing to do.

I believe If you like the gift of life you have an opportunity to keep it, seek out matters of spirituality, don’t ever stop if you are uncertain of the conclusions you arrive at because that uncertainty is a red flag that you have not found the truth. Seek and you shall find it, knock and the door will be opened.

Remember you are under no obligation to do so if you choose to not pursue a renewal of life. This mortal life may be plenty enough living for some and eternity may not be enough for others.

There is an element of peace in believing in a certainty and I pray that all that read this find that certainty of spirit. Then carry on laughing and loving and living the rest of this life with joy and hope.

Irish

That made my day Irish. "There is an element of peace in believing in a certainty and I pray that all that read this find that certainty of spirit". You nailed that right on the head and I felt that before you even said it in your previous posts. God is great!

I You, Irish!