video clip from Eyes Wide Shut:

Link removed.

thunkerdrone, please read the PM I am sending you,
Waspie_Dwarf

Thunker --

I realize you don't really post here for others' benefit, but maybe could you let people know you're linking them to straight, soft-*spam filter*?!

--Jaylemurph

http://metaphysical.articlesarchive.net/be...trepanning.html


Ben Franklin and Rosicrucian Dragons - Trepanning

Ben Franklin will always appear to be a great man and he was that indeed. But he was not just the founder of America or The Enlightenment Experiment. He was one of the founders of the New World Order along with Pierre Dupont de Nemours who he negotiated the armistice to end the British campaign against their former colony. This in fact lead to a un-ion and alliance that still rules the world but in a far more complete manner than the British Empire ever did. I have dealt with many intrigues he was part of and I have personally enjoyed conversing with his descendants. His drawing of the line to include Isle Royale as part of the United States is very important as any reader of my book on the Old Copper culture will know. He was a man who enjoyed his sex and the rituals of the Rosicrucian Dragons a great deal more than most. In the following quote from an article in The Guardian we see ‘trepanning’ again. Of course the authors might think this is only part of some anatomical research but I suspect it is part of sexual and psycho-spiritual rituals just as I have shown occurred in these nether regions of esoteric behaviour for many millennia. The trepanned head of the Merovingian King Dagobert allowed him greater psychic attunement and despite Franklin having been part of the witch hunt against Anton Mesmer and his use or exposure of these secrets I know Franklin understood what trepanning really was suited to achieve. And I know they are reported to still eat human thalami at some meetings of the Skull and Bones Society. Sir Laurence Gardner makes it clear that store bought desiccated animal sources do not serve their needs as well as human brain parts do.

“Benjamin Franklin's house: the naked truth

Restoration reveals secrets of American campaigner

Maev Kennedy, arts and heritage correspondent

Monday August 11, 2003
The Guardian

Some time in 2005 visitors will be able to visit the tall narrow Georgian house in the heart of London where Benjamin Franklin once sat stark naked by the large first floor sash windows, "air bathing" and thinking about bifocals, electricity, economics, American politics, British diplomacy, or how to get the fire in his back room to draw better.

It is a fair bet that however passionately interested the visitors are in the political history of American independence, and the intellectual history of the Age of Enlightenment, what will transfix them is the windowless basement room, once part of the garden.

As restoration work by the Friends of Benjamin Franklin House began on 36 Craven Street, a Grade I listed house rescued from the brink of tottering collapse, a small pit was found in the basement room. A human thigh bone was found.

The coroner and the police were notified. Excavation continued. More human bone surfaced. And more. And more, until more than 1,200 pieces of bone were recovered.

Since the bones were too ancient to trouble Scotland Yard, they are now in the care of the Institute of Archaeology, where experts have already determined that they range from an old man to a human baby. Several skulls have been trepanned, and arm and leg bones chopped through.

The most plausible explanation is not mass murder, but an anatomy school run by Benjamin Franklin's young friend and protégé, William Hewson. He had been a pupil of the most brilliant anatomist of the day, William Hunter, but the two fell out and Hewson started his own anatomy school - at the home of his mother-in-law Margaret Stephenson, just off the Strand, where Benjamin Franklin was also a lodger for 16 years.

He had a rich source of subjects at hand: the resurrection men could deliver bodies stolen from graveyards to the Thames wharf at the bottom of the street, while there was a weekly public execution at the gallows on the other side of the garden wall.

Benjamin Franklin, who was interested in absolutely everything - he was lucky to escape killing himself or his guests at the demonstrations of electricity he was wont to give during dinner parties - must have attended the public dissections. {For Dragons like the later Skull and Bonesmen who like Pierre Dupont de Nemours and Rufus King would be into the same ritual I trace and Gardner admits to.}

Hewson died young of blood poisoning after he cut himself during a dissection.

Franklin eventually returned to the United States, but was estranged from his abandoned family, and separated from the illegitimate son who shared his London years when Franklin declared for American independence and the son was exiled for his loyalty to England.

The house was less than 30 years old when Franklin came to London and rented the best first floor rooms, where he was visited by all the leading figures in radical politics, science and philosophy.” (2)

Franklin was also a member of The Hellfire Club and you should know about John Dee and the Necronomicon as mentioned in this excerpt.

“John Montagu, Lord Sandwich (the face in the halo) and George Selwyn, (a close friend of Horace Walpole who visited in 1763) were among the inner circle of twelve. One of the female members, Lady Betty Germaine, became a particular friend of Walpole's; through her Walpole acquired one of Dr. Dee's celebrated scrying stones, the Angelic Stone, now in the British Museum. Mary Wortley Montagu, Lord Sandwich's grandmother and a member of the earlier Hellfire Club, was also said to have been a member.

Satirized in the novel Chrysal, or the Story of a Guinea by Charles Johnstone, and referenced in Charles Churchill's The Candidate, these Medmenhamites were a probable influence on Matthew Lewis's The Monk.

Benjamin Franklin joined the group on occasion and collaborated with Sir Francis to revise the Book of Common Prayer or Franklin Prayer Book still in use in America. Franklin was also associated with the radical Lunar Society which included Erasmus Darwin, Richard Edgeworth (Maria Edgeworth's father), and William Godwin's friend, Joseph Priestley.” (2)[img]

http://www.redsofts.com/articles/read/11/3...ck_of_Ages.html


Rock of Ages


By:Robert Bruce Baird


William Jennings Bryan said: "Christians desire that their children shall be taught all the sciences, but they do not want them to lose sight of the Rock of Ages while they study the age of rocks."

It may seem incredible to those who do not know that the Churchians created the Devil as a means of keeping their flock in fear - who also think the Devil is a Pagan concept. The fear of death was not a Keltic concept and they weren't moved to assign all their wealth to some rich church when they approached death in order to avoid joining the Devil. Some Christian fundamentalists sell the idea that the age of rocks was a way that the Devil sought to lead Christians astray and these same people would have you teach your children the "Rock of Ages" has more veracity than the geology that proves we've had a long time on this earth to develop and learn what kind of Divine soul we are blessed with.

ASIATIC LAWS OF UNIVERSALITY IN THE 'STUPAS':

In other books I have explored the Dolmen and Round Towers of the ancient megalith Builders which resemble the symbolism of Man as represented in the steeple. They are part of the era after the truly great megaliths were built in places like Stonehenge and Poverty Point. The real meaning behind the form and structure may be similar though. Mircae Eliade was one of the Eranos Conference attendees with Jung and Campbell who I draw much insight from, in my studies. His scholarship is open and elucidative for me and I sincerely hope the reader will enjoy taking a journey with him to Barabudur. It is not easy for those of us in the present intellect-focused or faith oriented theology to integrate all aspects of how we might learn. Perhaps a simple suggestion to leave all preconceptions aside will suffice. So take off your 'thinking caps' and put your heart and soul on the front burner while the rose-coloured glasses of ego or faith diminish into the distance.

"On the subject of Barabudur, the famous temple on the island of Java and the most beautiful monument in Asia, whole libraries have been written. Purely technical explanations have been attempted taking account only of the laws of architecture; endless controversies have been joined over the religious and magical meanings hidden in that colossal monument. Dutch Orientalists and architects have published over the past fifteen years books of great value on Barabudur. The names of Krom, Van Erp, and Stutterheim must be mentioned. The last of these, in a work of 1927, laid the foundation for a true interpretation of the temple: 'Barabudur is nothing less than a symbolic representation of the Universe'. From this intuition Paul Mus's investigations start. The beginning of his book consists of a history of the controversy, an exposition of the principle hypotheses, and a critique of methods. Examined in turn are theories of the most illustrious India specialists, art historians and architects. Then Mus undertakes to discuss the problem. It must be remembered that this gigantic volume is preceded by an 'avant-propos' of 302 pages in which the author establishes the validity of his methodology. In order to justify the symbolic function of the Javanese temple, Mus emphasizes a truth often remarked by Orientalists: that if the Buddha was not represented iconographically for several centuries, it was not due to incapability on the part of Indian artists, but to the fact that a type of representation superior to images was essayed. 'That would not have been a defeat of plastic art, but rather the triumph of a magical art.' When an iconography of the Buddha was adopted, the symbolism was poor by comparison. The 'aniconic symbol' of Enlightenment (the wheel, etc.) was much more powerful, more 'pure', than the statue. Ananda Coomaraswamy also has published evidence for this thesis in his 'Elements of Buddhist Iconography'. (12) The conclusion to be drawn from this is that Buddhists, as well as Hindus (and Asians in general) {As well as the Sauk Indians we showed are from the area of the Great Wall and were Buddhists before the loss of magic represented by the change to graven images or iconography.} before Buddhism, used symbolism more effectively, precisely because the symbol was more comprehensive and 'Active' in the magical sense than plastic representation. If the Buddha was considered to be a god (as he was, in fact, immediately after his demise), then his magical 'presence' was preserved in anything emanating from him." (13)

A human statue or even a Gothic building representing the Temple of Solomon such as the Templars built into European cathedrals, does not convey the same representation of the 'Universe' or cosmos that runs through the veins of all living things. Many ancient beliefs were aware that spirit was within minerals and plants too: we are not this attuned and it is hard for us to see the vectors and lattices of energy in all things. Those who have read the 'Tao te Ching' or 'I Ching' understand a little of these energies that interact and CHANGE or grow with purpose. The 'Wheel of Life' in the Tarot is meant to capture some of this magic just as the dreams of North American Indians have been captured in the circular artistic wheels that sell in all so many souvenir stands. But it will be a long time before man again understands his exquisite interconnectiveness. We know too much to see such elegant simplicity of the spirit that is all around us. The Buddhists say 'All is Within' and the completion of the phrase is "the UNIVERSE!" I honour all myths that assist the 'oneness' in respect of the creative or intelligent design that so many insist is GOD. Here is an excerpt from my book Cherokee People (will return) to consume or cogitate upon.

In a moment we will return to my encyclopedia for more on the Zodiac because the mounds are a way of connecting to the cosmic energy which comes to earth and through which it passes and is part of. For the moment let us re-visit our present book’s early academic (Kenyon) as he actually (surprisingly) opens doors to the trepanning, skull deformation and ‘Obscene Ritual’ (Skull & Bones and the Bush family of Nazi leanings) of the Dragons and other Illuminized cults of elites.

“Let us return, finally, to the burial mounds of Ontario. These appear to be related in some complex fashion to the neolithic revolution. Their primary function, in all probability, was to mark the locations of sacred places and to establish territorial occupation. The sites they occupied were used as ceremonial centres for the loosely organized bands that occupied the surrounding areas (cf. Speck 1915). After spending the winter scattered throughout the band territory in small family groups, the people would assemble at a traditional spot, probably in the spring when fish were spawning or in the fall when beds of wild rice would be ready for harvesting. Only at those periods would food resources have been sufficiently abundant to maintain the entire band at one place.

These assemblies provided an opportunity for social interaction on a broader scale than would have been possible throughout most of the year. It was during such periods, too, that the chiefs and other leaders of the group would discuss band affairs with the various family heads and elders. But above all, such occasions provided an opportunity for all of the band members to participate in those rituals and ceremonies that reaffirmed and sustained community sentiments.

The nature of the ceremonies themselves cannot be determined at present, although we are offered a few tantalizing clues as to the subject matter around which they revolved. Most of the available data are derived, of course, from the burials found within the mounds and in submound pits.

In Northwestern Ontario, {Site of the Nipissing magi and Mediwiwin group who are influenced by Masons of the Christian Mystery School Complex or Rosicrucian Dragons.} the skulls that have openings in their occipital regions are reasonably clear evidence of power transfer. The individuals whose skulls were opened would have had some unusual and highly valued personal characteristics; the occipital openings made it possible to remove their brains and to transfer those characteristics from the dead to the living. This would have been accomplished through a religious ceremony that included eating the brain that was the seat of such wondrous powers. {I detail this in many books - and the modern Thalami research that is showing merit to the Cosmic Thought Field.} The eating, of course, could have been either actual or symbolic. {The Communion and Eucharist is derived from the earlier rituals of this sort. Only the most powerful elites get to eat the thalami for the much needed melatonin, iridium and rhodium.} In either event, the highly valued qualities would not be lost to the band through death but would be preserved through reincarnation. {The living cells as close to still living as possible are most needed and some of the old seers would end their lives during this ritual as they would have known throughout their life – it would happen.}

Such practices were probably much more widespread that the archaeological evidence would suggest at first glance; for we know that highly valued characteristics are often located in organs other than the brain. {Thus the Biblical ‘Devoted Ones’ shown in Cahill’s Gifts of the Jews were harvested for hearts too – as in the Aztec rituals and Moshe who also became impacted by these Dragons like the Prince of Palenque.} Our own western European culture, for example, locates many of its most highly prized characteristics in the heart. The point is that power transfer was probably much more widespread than current data suggest, simply because the removal of most organs for this purpose would have left no skeletal evidence…

One of the major ritual acts of the people, however, was the building of the mounds themselves. For it is almost certainly an error to look upon mound-building primarily in terms of engineering. {Especially the lesser and more mundane imitations of the period he is focused upon.} We must see it, rather, as a by-product of sociological processes; that is, we should look upon mound-building as we look upon the performance of a ballet or drama in our own society. Theatres may arise as a result of our interest in such cultural pursuits but the significance of a ballet or drama resides, surely, in the performance itself. The play’s the thing! Once the mound was built, of course, it would have served, as it does a theatre, as a backdrop for other rituals. For once again, it is through such rituals and ceremonies that human groups are bound together and that individual lives are shaped to ancestral patterns.

The masked and painted skulls from Hungry Hall were part of one such ritual. And when it was over, the skulls, like the props of a drama that had run its course, were tossed rather carelessly into the corner of a grave.” (14)


About the Author



Columnist in The ES Press Magazine
World-Mysteries.com guest expert
Author of Diverse Druids

William Jennings Bryan said: "Christians desire that their children shall be taught all the sciences, but they do not want them to lose sight of the Rock of Ages while they study the age of rocks."

It may seem incredible to those who do not know that the Churchians created the Devil as a means of keeping their flock in fear - who also think the Devil is a Pagan concept. The fear of death was not a Keltic concept and they weren't moved to assign all their wealth to some rich church when they approached death in order to avoid joining the Devil. Some Christian fundamentalists sell the idea that the age of rocks was a way that the Devil sought to lead Christians astray and these same people would have you teach your children the "Rock of Ages" has more veracity than the geology that proves we've had a long time on this earth to develop and learn what kind of Divine soul we are blessed with.

ASIATIC LAWS OF UNIVERSALITY IN THE 'STUPAS':

In other books I have explored the Dolmen and Round Towers of the ancient megalith Builders which resemble the symbolism of Man as represented in the steeple. They are part of the era after the truly great megaliths were built in places like Stonehenge and Poverty Point. The real meaning behind the form and structure may be similar though. Mircae Eliade was one of the Eranos Conference attendees with Jung and Campbell who I draw much insight from, in my studies. His scholarship is open and elucidative for me and I sincerely hope the reader will enjoy taking a journey with him to Barabudur. It is not easy for those of us in the present intellect-focused or faith oriented theology to integrate all aspects of how we might learn. Perhaps a simple suggestion to leave all preconceptions aside will suffice. So take off your 'thinking caps' and put your heart and soul on the front burner while the rose-coloured glasses of ego or faith diminish into the distance.

"On the subject of Barabudur, the famous temple on the island of Java and the most beautiful monument in Asia, whole libraries have been written. Purely technical explanations have been attempted taking account only of the laws of architecture; endless controversies have been joined over the religious and magical meanings hidden in that colossal monument. Dutch Orientalists and architects have published over the past fifteen years books of great value on Barabudur. The names of Krom, Van Erp, and Stutterheim must be mentioned. The last of these, in a work of 1927, laid the foundation for a true interpretation of the temple: 'Barabudur is nothing less than a symbolic representation of the Universe'. From this intuition Paul Mus's investigations start. The beginning of his book consists of a history of the controversy, an exposition of the principle hypotheses, and a critique of methods. Examined in turn are theories of the most illustrious India specialists, art historians and architects. Then Mus undertakes to discuss the problem. It must be remembered that this gigantic volume is preceded by an 'avant-propos' of 302 pages in which the author establishes the validity of his methodology. In order to justify the symbolic function of the Javanese temple, Mus emphasizes a truth often remarked by Orientalists: that if the Buddha was not represented iconographically for several centuries, it was not due to incapability on the part of Indian artists, but to the fact that a type of representation superior to images was essayed. 'That would not have been a defeat of plastic art, but rather the triumph of a magical art.' When an iconography of the Buddha was adopted, the symbolism was poor by comparison. The 'aniconic symbol' of Enlightenment (the wheel, etc.) was much more powerful, more 'pure', than the statue. Ananda Coomaraswamy also has published evidence for this thesis in his 'Elements of Buddhist Iconography'. (12) The conclusion to be drawn from this is that Buddhists, as well as Hindus (and Asians in general) {As well as the Sauk Indians we showed are from the area of the Great Wall and were Buddhists before the loss of magic represented by the change to graven images or iconography.} before Buddhism, used symbolism more effectively, precisely because the symbol was more comprehensive and 'Active' in the magical sense than plastic representation. If the Buddha was considered to be a god (as he was, in fact, immediately after his demise), then his magical 'presence' was preserved in anything emanating from him." (13)

A human statue or even a Gothic building representing the Temple of Solomon such as the Templars built into European cathedrals, does not convey the same representation of the 'Universe' or cosmos that runs through the veins of all living things. Many ancient beliefs were aware that spirit was within minerals and plants too: we are not this attuned and it is hard for us to see the vectors and lattices of energy in all things. Those who have read the 'Tao te Ching' or 'I Ching' understand a little of these energies that interact and CHANGE or grow with purpose. The 'Wheel of Life' in the Tarot is meant to capture some of this magic just as the dreams of North American Indians have been captured in the circular artistic wheels that sell in all so many souvenir stands. But it will be a long time before man again understands his exquisite interconnectiveness. We know too much to see such elegant simplicity of the spirit that is all around us. The Buddhists say 'All is Within' and the completion of the phrase is "the UNIVERSE!" I honour all myths that assist the 'oneness' in respect of the creative or intelligent design that so many insist is GOD. Here is an excerpt from my book Cherokee People (will return) to consume or cogitate upon.

In a moment we will return to my encyclopedia for more on the Zodiac because the mounds are a way of connecting to the cosmic energy which comes to earth and through which it passes and is part of. For the moment let us re-visit our present book’s early academic (Kenyon) as he actually (surprisingly) opens doors to the trepanning, skull deformation and ‘Obscene Ritual’ (Skull & Bones and the Bush family of Nazi leanings) of the Dragons and other Illuminized cults of elites.

“Let us return, finally, to the burial mounds of Ontario. These appear to be related in some complex fashion to the neolithic revolution. Their primary function, in all probability, was to mark the locations of sacred places and to establish territorial occupation. The sites they occupied were used as ceremonial centres for the loosely organized bands that occupied the surrounding areas (cf. Speck 1915). After spending the winter scattered throughout the band territory in small family groups, the people would assemble at a traditional spot, probably in the spring when fish were spawning or in the fall when beds of wild rice would be ready for harvesting. Only at those periods would food resources have been sufficiently abundant to maintain the entire band at one place.

These assemblies provided an opportunity for social interaction on a broader scale than would have been possible throughout most of the year. It was during such periods, too, that the chiefs and other leaders of the group would discuss band affairs with the various family heads and elders. But above all, such occasions provided an opportunity for all of the band members to participate in those rituals and ceremonies that reaffirmed and sustained community sentiments.

The nature of the ceremonies themselves cannot be determined at present, although we are offered a few tantalizing clues as to the subject matter around which they revolved. Most of the available data are derived, of course, from the burials found within the mounds and in submound pits.

In Northwestern Ontario, {Site of the Nipissing magi and Mediwiwin group who are influenced by Masons of the Christian Mystery School Complex or Rosicrucian Dragons.} the skulls that have openings in their occipital regions are reasonably clear evidence of power transfer. The individuals whose skulls were opened would have had some unusual and highly valued personal characteristics; the occipital openings made it possible to remove their brains and to transfer those characteristics from the dead to the living. This would have been accomplished through a religious ceremony that included eating the brain that was the seat of such wondrous powers. {I detail this in many books - and the modern Thalami research that is showing merit to the Cosmic Thought Field.} The eating, of course, could have been either actual or symbolic. {The Communion and Eucharist is derived from the earlier rituals of this sort. Only the most powerful elites get to eat the thalami for the much needed melatonin, iridium and rhodium.} In either event, the highly valued qualities would not be lost to the band through death but would be preserved through reincarnation. {The living cells as close to still living as possible are most needed and some of the old seers would end their lives during this ritual as they would have known throughout their life – it would happen.}

Such practices were probably much more widespread that the archaeological evidence would suggest at first glance; for we know that highly valued characteristics are often located in organs other than the brain. {Thus the Biblical ‘Devoted Ones’ shown in Cahill’s Gifts of the Jews were harvested for hearts too – as in the Aztec rituals and Moshe who also became impacted by these Dragons like the Prince of Palenque.} Our own western European culture, for example, locates many of its most highly prized characteristics in the heart. The point is that power transfer was probably much more widespread than current data suggest, simply because the removal of most organs for this purpose would have left no skeletal evidence…

One of the major ritual acts of the people, however, was the building of the mounds themselves. For it is almost certainly an error to look upon mound-building primarily in terms of engineering. {Especially the lesser and more mundane imitations of the period he is focused upon.} We must see it, rather, as a by-product of sociological processes; that is, we should look upon mound-building as we look upon the performance of a ballet or drama in our own society. Theatres may arise as a result of our interest in such cultural pursuits but the significance of a ballet or drama resides, surely, in the performance itself. The play’s the thing! Once the mound was built, of course, it would have served, as it does a theatre, as a backdrop for other rituals. For once again, it is through such rituals and ceremonies that human groups are bound together and that individual lives are shaped to ancestral patterns.

The masked and painted skulls from Hungry Hall were part of one such ritual. And when it was over, the skulls, like the props of a drama that had run its course, were tossed rather carelessly into the corner of a grave.” (14)



About the Author



Columnist in The ES Press Magazine
World-Mysteries.com guest expert
Author of Diverse Druids

Article Source: http://www.redsofts.com/articles/

sorry, I had forgotten that this was not a strictly adult forum, and sort of lost perspective . No offence intended. IF anyone wants to see
the deleted clip, just go to Google Video and type in Eyes Wide Shut , and it should come up in the search results. (warning , nudity)

Interesting Ideas

More on Jagger's interest in Cannibalism:
Jagger took a luxury cruise to New Guinea to see the cannibals and hear a lecture by jewish homosexual cannibal
Tobias Schneebaum:

http://members.tripod.com/~dispatches/loca...x-cannibal.html

Another notable coincidence here is that David Bailey, the photographer who designed and photographed the cover art for the Rolling Stone's album
Goat's Head Soup, traveled to New Guinea two years later, and stayed there five weeks photographing the head-hunting cannibals .
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:uGLzi...;cd=1&gl=ca





















The people we are seeing in Venice in these photos are our elite, of that there is no doubt. Their costumes alone
cost incredible amounts of money. Then there is travel from around the globe, and luxury accomodation, total
frivolous and ritualistic indulgence.

The people we are seeing in New Guinea in these photos are their elite, and it is the elite who traditionally eat
highest on the food chain. I look at the costumes and customs of these indigenous tribes and suspect that they draw influence
from all sources, and perhaps it was ancient European travellers who introduced them to cannibalism, and maybe this is
why their tribal costumes seem to mirror the European costumes .

UM gives you your own blog. Why not use it?

Just out of curiosity, do you actually know anything about the real Rosicrucians? The ones that actually existed.
I mean, you could read Francis Yates' book and learn about them and appreciate how ridiculous charges of them being cannibal...

--Jaylemurph

Check out interview of homosexual cannibal Tobias Schneebaum, who talks about his documentary "Keep the River on your Right"

about living with gay cannibalistic tribes in New Guinea.

(fast forward to: Tobias Schneebaum at 39:30)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFZd3C6q8Yo

That was interesting, but what exactly does have to do with anything -- other than proving you need to get a blog instead of this thread.

--Jaylemurph

Auction of Killer's Art Collection Canceled

This on another Jewish homosexual cannibal, Robert Berdella, who had an entire collection of occult masks and artifacts:
apparently from both Egypt and Southeast Asia:


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...752C1A96E948260


SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES
Published: November 22, 1988

LEAD: The auction of the personal belongings of Robert A. Berdella, a convicted murderer, was canceled Sunday because one individual is negotiating to buy the entire collection of art and other valuables, the auctioneer said.

The auction of the personal belongings of Robert A. Berdella, a convicted murderer, was canceled Sunday because one individual is negotiating to buy the entire collection of art and other valuables, the auctioneer said.

Mr. Berdella confessed in August to the murder in 1987 of a Wichita, Kan., man. He also admitted his guilt in a sodomy case and has been indicted in another death.

Earlier auctions of thousands of artifacts from Mr. Berdella's art collection and store, Bob's Bazaar Bizarre, were successful, said Gary Ryther, the auctioneer, but he refused to say how much money was raised.

The money is expected to go toward Mr. Berdella's legal fees.

Mr. Berdella's eclectic collection contains items from ancient Egypt and Rome to India and Southeast Asia.
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you must have missed the part about Mick Jagger travelling with this guy to New Guinea.
people LIKE this thread, please stop pestering me.

All this could be accomplished with a blog. I mostly see you posting. Thats it & us complaining.lol Views don't mean people like it. It could be like looking at a car wreck. We all have to see.

I disagree. This is an insightful thread with a lot of fascinating information and a lot of people are reading it. People would ignore it if it were anything other than that.

I absolutely did miss it, thunker, and I apologise.




There is a lot of information on this thread, but sadly, a lot of it either just wrong -- the Rosicrucians as cannibals? -- or so poorly "researched" -- watching youtube videos and trolling the lesser-walked ways of the internet and actual research really are a long distance apart -- as to be virtually meaningless.
People may be reading it, but they aren't really discussing it, though. That's the critical difference here.

And what is your deal with gay people? You've got two people /who eat human flesh/ and you still feel obligated to point out they're gay, too? Do you seriously think there's a link between the two?

--Jaylemurph

If the thread were so terrible, people would ignore it. They are NOT ignoring it. They are enjoying reading it. It is a good thread with very little
arguing and plenty of fresh and interesting information. It is not perfect, but it does not have to be. I wish you guys would relax and go do
something else other than fret about the format of this one small thread.

Well, as long as you don't mistake "fresh and interesting" as "true"...
And considering there's been one post (and not even a nice one) in a month that hasn't been you, me, or Eric Raven, I'd like to know how you can tell people are "enjoying" it.

--Jaylemurph

I can tell people are interested in reading this information because of the number of views it is generating.
If people did not find this enjoyable or pertinent they would not be reading it in the numbers that they have
been.

And they couldn't possibly just be checking it because they check every thread or they hope that perhaps something relevant to the subject was posted and then are disappointed when they see it is just more unrelated ramblings.

[quote name='thunkerdrone' date='Jan 26 2007, 06:07 AM' post='1516552']
The CIA special forces unit is bombing American troops and Iraqi civilians in order to extend the war. They
are using stolen American and Canadian vehicles for these car-bomb attacks on allied targets.
There are at least two incidents where Americans and Britons have been actually caught dressed as Arabs while carrying out these bombing
operations(linked below , or see Terrorstorm by Alex Jones for background http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=78...torm&hl=en)

O.K., all I can say is I really hope this is not true. I am a fan of Alex Jones and hit Prison Planet regularly. However, I have never heard this theory and it really makes perfect sense, the CIA has always been a bunch of murdering Bas****, everyone knows this. But if we're bombiing ourself in Iraq, well it doesn't surprise me, but we're just further gone as a Nation than I thought.
Thank you very much for the Post. It is certainly thought provoking.

exactly, the frequency with which this thread is viewed compared to others makes it impossible that the majority see it as just 'unrelated ramblings'.

Also check out the incredibly high number of admitted 'friendly fire' casualties emerging from Iraq and Afghanistan. Or the incidents where the allies have 'accidentally' strafed eachother
or bombed eachother. Remember too that this 'war' is being fought largely by an unprecedented number of private contractors, mercenary firms that will do anything for big money.
These firms have a VESTED INTEREST in maintaining a bloody war. I suspect that Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib are really all about trying to incite hatred and extremism among muslims
where there virtually was none to begin with.

speaking of mercenary soldiers, check out the trailer for the 1969 film 'Nam's Angels':



http://www.trailerfan.com/movie/nam_angels/trailer


Hillside Strangler Ken Bianchi was a biker with a tattoo that said 'satan's own mc'
http://rocwiki.org/Kenneth_Bianchi

Arthur Shawcross was a Vietnam vet who killed and ate prostitutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnRmGcuDeO8...ted&search=

Check this out, this is mindblowing. In Part III
at 3:39 , Shawcross admits that he was part of organized crime. There is more to this than is getting out.
These murders were part of something bigger.
When asked about some minor burglaries and arson he says "those fires were set for another reason,
that I can't talk about. Other people were involved."

Here is a guy who is willing to talk about cooking and eating women's legs in Vietnam, and eating prostitutes
in America, yet he is scared to talk about who he set those fires for.
Part III
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ9rG7u2BpM...ted&search=

He looks so relaxed, like it is all a big joke. Makes you wonder what is really going on.

I have never in my life seen such an accumulation of pure, unadulterated idiocy as has been posted in this thread.

There is little, if any, valid information here about Vietnam. That was, as Korea, a political war, and there was never any intent to win either. That should be obvious to even the most casual observer. There isn't one actual fact about the Ho Chi Minh trail, nor about the functions of the SOGs in Vietnam.

Those of us who are veterans, myself included, do NOT like being classified as henchmen of some power-hungry elite. We are not. The fact that from time to time I still don a t-shirt that says "Special Forces Never Die - They Just Go To Hell To Regroup" is nothing more than a statement of the actual hell we were required to live for a while, and nothing more.

It strikes me that using the rants of performers who have too much money, too much time, too little mind, and too much drug in their systems as proof of anything is one hundred percent ridiculous. The publicity is good for them, but popularity does not make factual evidence.

Thunk, you've got too much time on your hands. Find something useful to do.

spectacular emoting! Wrong, but spectacular nonetheless. Continue your hard work.

Prove it wrong.

I do find the assertions that US Special Forces members selling drugs and running organized crimes for the CIA to be extremely tenuous (but then I find most things on this thread to be tenuous in the extreme) and, without rock-solid proof, as offensive.

I can't imagine the righteous indignation such a soldier would feel seeing those things aimed at himself. I think RabidCat does himself and his army training a great deal of credit by being so restrained.

--Jaylemurph

No one is saying that RabidCat did these things.

Don't be such a silly goose.

You're quite right of course, Thunker, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to say you were; it was a poor choice of words on my part.
I should be more mindful as someone yesterday did the exact same thing to me that I did here to you.

In any case, that and this was an interesting comparison between a soldier and some kid who was in the army for a few months.

--Jaylemurph

http://www.303rdbg.com/427newton2.html



Crew Formation and Flight to England:
Captain Newton's Crew was formed in May 1944 at Rapid City Army Air Base, South Dakota


GEORGE C. NEWTON CREW - 427th BS
B-17G Queenie #42-97281 GN-Q
(crew assigned 427BS: 17 Aug 1944 - photo: 30 Dec 1944)



http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&a...p;z=10&om=1
Sturgis, South Dakota Motorcycle Rally (annually attracts over 500,000 bikers to Rapid City area the first week of August)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgis_Bike_Rally

thunker,

So what exactly is this thread about? I see a lot of dissociated cut and pasting, but no discussion on the subject(s) at all.

Best,
Badeskov

I'm not quite sure, either. It's gotten distinctly murky from time to time. Something about the the Illuminati and fraternities within the CIA using former special ops-cum-Hell's Angels to peddle drugs to finance their gay, cannibal, devil-worshipping cult. But they're not really gay because they have lesbian orgies and run child-prostitution rings.

And there's something about Mick Jagger, too.

[in a Basil Fawlty and the Germans sotto voce] But don't mention the fact there's no real discussion here, because people ENJOY THIS THREAD...

--Jaylemurph

By all means of respect, but I think that is putting it mildly. To me it has been distinctly murky at best and then moving to the worse.



I think this thread need the Bilderberg group included and somehow tie all the above into the faked moon landings and alien structures on Mars to make it complete...so we have the CIA financing former special ops-cum-Hell's Angels taking a fake trip to the moon to carry out some gay, cannibal, devil-worshipping cult ritual while....no wait...never mind



Oh, of course...not to forget....



Yes, indeed, enjoyed as in a broken limb or a severely bad flu....

Best,
Badeskov

It is not dissociated. I guess I am crediting readers with perception and discernment beyond that of grade 5 children by not spoon feeding
the information .

Read the title of the thread. Hells Angels and the CIA and Skull n' Bones, Air America, etc. are all part of a paramilitary drug ring.
When I find evidence that the Hells Angels are linked to the military and/or to drug smuggling, I post it. When I find evidence that
the Hells Angels biker ring had their origins in para-military mercenary operations dating back to WWI and WWII , I post it. When I find
evidence of these organizations being involved in occult activities and satanic crimes, I post it.

I guess I understand that. However, a little text on what you think of it might be helpful to initiate a discussion. Mostly I see some snippets of text and some pictures which I don't really know what to tie into. Maybe a short paragraph on where a given post actually fits into the whole jigsaw puzzle would be helpful.

Cheers,
Badeskov

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Set
Michael Aquino


informative 1.5 hour documentary on the occult, featuring extensive interview of Michael Aquino, founder of the occult sect the Temple of Set,
and retired Lt. Colonel, Military Intelligence, U.S. Army

The Occult Experience:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-79...h&plindex=2

Think of it as... conspiracy theory collage.

--Jaylemurph

Oops. Double post.

--Jaylemurph

I don't understand what this thread is about.

But, hey, cool pictures of Sturgis... I went a few years ago. It's fun. The big secret is that it's really just a bunch of people in their mid-30's-70's who have a lot of disposable income ... enough to mostly trailer their full dress Harley's to nowhere S. Dakota and get their soccer mom wives tats in strategic places that the PTA won't see. .

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardt..._subversion.htm

Lt. Colonel Michael Aquino


Satanic subversion of the U.S. Military
by Jeffrey Steinberg

Double-Cross.com

On February 5, 1999, in U.S. District Court in Lincoln, Nebraska, an extraordinary hearing occurred in Paul A. Bonacci v. Lawrence E. King, a civil action in which the plaintiff charged that he had been ritualistically abused by the defendant, as part of a nationwide pedophile ring linked to powerful political figures in Washington and to elements of the U.S. military and intelligence establishment. Three weeks later, on February 27, Judge Warren K. Urbom ordered King, who is currently in Federal prison, to pay $1 million in damages to Bonacci, in what Bonacci's attorney John DeCamp said was a clear signal that "the evidence presented was credible."

During the February 5 hearing, Noreen Gosch stunned the court with sworn testimony linking U.S. Army Lt. Col. Michael Aquino (ret.) to the nationwide pedophile ring. Her son, Johnny, then 12 years old, was kidnapped off the streets of West Des Moines, Iowa on September 5, 1982, while he was doing his early-morning newspaper deliveries. Since his kidnapping, she has devoted all of her time and resources to finding her son, and to exposing the dangers that millions of children in American face from this hideous, literally Satanic underground of ritualistic deviants.

"We have investigated, we have talked to so far 35 victims of this said organization that took my son and is responsible for what happened to Paul, and they can verify everything that has happened," she told the court.

"What this story involves is an elaborate function, I will say, that was an offshoot of a government program. The MK-Ultra program was developed in the 1950s by the CIA. It was used to help spy on other countries during the Cold War because they felt that the other countries were spying on us.

"It was very successful. They could do it very well."

*See Source for further reading*

Well that made for a good read, mindboggling indeed, surprising Not, really don,t think they will ever send there own to prison do you?? Satanic global illuminated Freak's, were,s my gun,LOL.....!!!

click on images to enlarge:






Note the images above of golden masks and pirate hats
and then note the similarity of the images below, of indonesian cannibals in their 'golden mask' makeup and cannibalistic ritual garb.






Is it possible that these tribesmen are reenacting the rituals and cannibalism visited upon them in ancient times by ancient travelers with golden masks and strange hats? Could their cannibalism have been learned from cannibalistic foreign visitors, who fed upon the inhabitants of their lands? Could this date back as far as the Egyptian mariners and pharoahs and golden death mask rituals?

President Clinton and Harley CEO Jeffrey Bleustein

Schwarzenegger in Motorcycle Accident (Harley Davidson)
Police: Schwarzenegger riding motorcycle illegally
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-0...r-license_x.htm

Very interesting video on who was really behind Nazism, and the fact that many of the top Nazis were Jewish:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=675...h&plindex=0

also interesting: Jewish-German Rothschild world empire:

Part I:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=46...39148549#34m56s

Part II:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4...58889#01h22m45s



http://www.duplinks.com/?hunkahunka





Very important new film from Alex Jones on global eugenics movement now being pre-screened in movie theatres prior to pending release

See Alex Jones speech introducing his new film at a live pre-screening:
QUOTE
linked-image

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardt...l_bloodline.htm

The Russell Bloodline

C.T. RUSSELL’S STORY

Once there was a Jewish family whose name was Roessel. They lived in early 17th century Germany.
They moved to a country called Scotland. There they re-spelled the name Russell. They took on the ways of their new homeland.
The English tried to settle Protestants from Scotland in Ireland in order to control the Irish.
When the opportunity opened up to go to the Emerald Island (Ireland) with the Scottish settlers who went to the plantation
Ulster they went. It is possible, but not known for sure that they learned to know the Rutherford's either in Scotland or
Ireland. Scotland repeatedly appears as the source of much of the religious heresy connected with the Power.
That C . T. Russell’s family were in Scotland for a period, and also from the German states which seem to be a hot bed for
Jewish Satanism may be only a coincidence and then again it might be a clue to understanding the origin of the
Watchtower Society. This Author’s previous book The Watchtower and the Masons tells the story how the Arian heresy began at
the University of Edinburgh, Scotland and spread to the the Presbyterians of the Synod of Ulster. The book gives this
Author’s reasons for believing that the C . T. Russell’s family in northern Ireland were Arian in belief before coming to the
U. S. and chances are they were involved with Freemasonry also.


RUSSELLS WHO FOUNDED FRATERNAL SOCIETIES

Charles Taze Russell - Knights Templar Mason of York Rite, in Allegheny Pa. and founder of the WatchTower Society (Jehovah's Witnesses).

William Huntington Russell - founder of what is believed to be an American chapter of the Illuminati, the Skull & Bones Order.9 More on this in chapter 2.3. It’s legal name is Russell Trust.

John Russell - founder of the fraternity of Daughters of Isabella (DOI) in May, 1897 in New Haven, Conn.10

Huli folklore tells stories of fighting cannibalistic giants:



The indigenous people of New Guinea are characteristically short in stature by western standards, so foreign cannibals large in stature by our standards, could appear to them as giants.

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the link was broken (some unexplained mystery)

so here again is the link to The Final Solution to Adolph Hitler,
a video by Jim Condit that proves that the Nazis were run by a cult of Jewish German supremacists:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=675...h&plindex=1