*Armageddon Signs*
Jan 26 2007, 09:39 PM
Why couldnt the alien get through the door when they were all locked up downstairs?? I mean they can fly a spaceship and have a lot of technology but they cant get through a door, me and some of my friends were talking about that eariler today. just wondering
*Armageddon Signs*
Jan 26 2007, 09:44 PM
:DHey i was wondering, in the movie signs where they are locked downstairs, why cant the aliens get through the door, they can fly a spaceship and have technology greater then us, but cant ge through a door. me and my friends were talking about that earlier.
Bella-Angelique
Jan 26 2007, 09:45 PM
QUOTE(*Armageddon Signs* @ Jan 26 2007, 04:39 PM) [snapback]1517094[/snapback]
Why couldnt the alien get through the door when they were all locked up downstairs?? I mean they can fly a spaceship and have a lot of technology but they cant get through a door, me and some of my friends were talking about that eariler today. just wondering

I will guess they had no tools on them for the same reason that they wore no clothes.
You would have to guess they were bio-weapons sent out and expendable I suppose.
landscapecontractor
Jan 26 2007, 09:46 PM
QUOTE(*Armageddon Signs* @ Jan 26 2007, 01:39 PM) [snapback]1517094[/snapback]
Why couldnt the alien get through the door when they were all locked up downstairs?? I mean they can fly a spaceship and have a lot of technology but they cant get through a door, me and some of my friends were talking about that eariler today. just wondering

lol, I remember thinking that too (what a stupid alien). But, it is just a movie and I think the director did something I kind of like in a good movie. He left it open to interpretation, my thought was that the concept of a "door" was just something ET had no clue about. And I may be totally wrong, but I like that he lets the observer figure it out... Its ET, use your imagination.
KGS3333
Jan 26 2007, 09:51 PM
QUOTE(*Armageddon Signs* @ Jan 26 2007, 09:39 PM) [snapback]1517094[/snapback]
Why couldnt the alien get through the door when they were all locked up downstairs?? I mean they can fly a spaceship and have a lot of technology but they cant get through a door, me and some of my friends were talking about that eariler today. just wondering

It's been a while since I watched this movie so the actual course of events is a little foggy, but one thing you have to keep in mind is that this movie has much Christian symbolism. So why they can't get through the door has nothing to do with technology, rather is based on something more spiritual.
KGS
liokee
Jan 26 2007, 09:57 PM
QUOTE(KGS3333 @ Jan 26 2007, 04:51 PM) [snapback]1517111[/snapback]
It's been a while since I watched this movie so the actual course of events is a little foggy, but one thing you have to keep in mind is that this movie has much Christian symbolism. So why they can't get through the door has nothing to do with technology, rather is based on something more spiritual.
KGS
I'm sorry, KGS, and not to be rude, but I honestly don't remember ever thinking that movie had any kind of spirituality or symbolism (Christian or otherwise). In fact, I found it rather a dull movie - but that's beside the point.

Would you mind explaining your comment a little?
aquatus1
Jan 26 2007, 10:14 PM
Well, in a species that travels among the stars, draws graffity on the scale of hundreds of feet, carries deadly weapons built into their fingers, and use god-knows-how-much-advanced tech to control its feedstock...probably no one even considered someone would use a plant to block a door.
Think about it: You are a farmer. You go get a cow for the Chrismas feast. You encounter a castle made out of cow dung. What the heck?! No only would you not expect a herd of cows to be pulling a Braveheart, you probably wouldn't be prepared to tear down a thick cow dung wall, despite your fancy-schmancy technology.
hazzard
Jan 26 2007, 10:15 PM
KGS3333
Jan 26 2007, 10:16 PM
QUOTE(liokee @ Jan 26 2007, 09:57 PM) [snapback]1517124[/snapback]
I'm sorry, KGS, and not to be rude, but I honestly don't remember ever thinking that movie had any kind of spirituality or symbolism (Christian or otherwise). In fact, I found it rather a dull movie - but that's beside the point.

Would you mind explaining your comment a little?
Well, it's been a while, so I can't do a point by point analysis of the movie, but I do recall that Gibson was a minister of some sort, lost his faith when his wife was killed, and had it restored at the end of the movie; also about the water stopping the demonic-looking aliens, kind of like "holy water". I'm quite certain that this has been discussed in great detail at the message board at imdb.com.
KGS
capeo
Jan 26 2007, 10:20 PM
QUOTE(*Armageddon Signs* @ Jan 26 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]1517101[/snapback]
:DHey i was wondering, in the movie signs where they are locked downstairs, why cant the aliens get through the door, they can fly a spaceship and have technology greater then us, but cant ge through a door. me and my friends were talking about that earlier.

That's only one of the many stupid leaps of logic in that film. The largest being why would a species that is killed by water attack a planet that is mostly water. We have the technology now to tell the make-up of planest atmospheres through spectrometry. You'd think they would. You'd also assume they'd have better weapons than sprayable gas from their wrists and, perhaps, radio technology so they wouldn't have to leave marks all over the ground to denote things.
Atheist God
Jan 26 2007, 10:27 PM
Technically the aliens in signs should have died upon exiting their craft. The reason for this would be the moisture in the air it should have begun to disolve them and kill them in a short period of time. Especially if it is like a very strong acid to them.
Now the reason for not using advance technology may have something to do with human ingenuity. They have a ray gun so we steal it and use it against them etc. If they just invaded with ships we would try to nuke them destroying the planet they came to conquor in the first place.
One must remember that this is just a movie and not everything that happens makes sense or even has to be logical. It is nothing more then a mere fictional story to be enjoyed by the masses.
aquatus1
Jan 26 2007, 10:30 PM
Threads merged.
Armageddon, you only need to open one thread on a given topic.
*Armageddon Signs*
Jan 26 2007, 10:45 PM
Sorry i opened more then one thread, computer was screwing up.
Ryo Ohki
Jan 26 2007, 11:03 PM
I thought the part that alien video scared the pants off that guy watching tv in the closet was funny.
eqgumby
Jan 27 2007, 12:24 AM
QUOTE(liokee @ Jan 26 2007, 09:57 PM) [snapback]1517124[/snapback]
I'm sorry, KGS, and not to be rude, but I honestly don't remember ever thinking that movie had any kind of spirituality or symbolism (Christian or otherwise). In fact, I found it rather a dull movie - but that's beside the point.

Would you mind explaining your comment a little?
Wow, I was stunned by the Christian themes (although now that I think about it, it's more faith based, they just happened to use a Christian faith).
It was wrapped in faith. I'm sure there is LOTS of dialog if you look it up, probably more than I could even come up with.
Atheist God
Jan 27 2007, 01:02 AM
QUOTE(eqgumby @ Jan 26 2007, 06:24 PM) [snapback]1517356[/snapback]
Wow, I was stunned by the Christian themes (although now that I think about it, it's more faith based, they just happened to use a Christian faith).
It was wrapped in faith. I'm sure there is LOTS of dialog if you look it up, probably more than I could even come up with.
Whoa that little girl was really Jesus and God told her to place glasses of water everywhere to beat Satan?
Chauncy
Jan 27 2007, 01:07 AM
I liked this movie alot. But I was worried that the movie "Signs" would do to crop circles what "Jaws" did for sharks.
I always thought that the aliens in that movie were a little intrigued by the daughters psychic abilities. It seemed that the aliens communicated telepathetically, and the daughter was precognitive in a sense. I think the aliens were more interested in observing that specific family because of the odd abilities of the daughter, and this is why they didn't attack outright.
Diversion
Jan 27 2007, 05:26 AM
I just think like another person said.. The aliens had no concept of what a door is and how to use one.. Just like i'd believe that if an alien scout ship crashed in your back yard, do you think you'd know what buttons (or if they even had buttons) operated the ship correctly? It could be mind controlled and only tied to the alien pilot's mind.. The entire movie mostly left to the viewers imagination and that's why I liked it. We could go in all kinds of directions with the movie.
Jay
liokee
Jan 27 2007, 05:28 AM
QUOTE(GanjaGuru @ Jan 26 2007, 08:02 PM) [snapback]1517422[/snapback]
Whoa that little girl was really Jesus and God told her to place glasses of water everywhere to beat Satan?
I was wondering that, myself... I also wondered if God told Dorothy (Jesus?) to throw a bucket of water on the Wicked Witch of the West (Satan, in green?)...
boorite
Jan 27 2007, 05:33 AM
QUOTE(*Armageddon Signs* @ Jan 26 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]1517094[/snapback]
Why couldnt the alien get through the door when they were all locked up downstairs?? I mean they can fly a spaceship and have a lot of technology but they cant get through a door, me and some of my friends were talking about that eariler today. just wondering

Through the miracle of bad plotting.
KGS3333
Jan 27 2007, 05:33 AM
QUOTE(capeo @ Jan 26 2007, 10:20 PM) [snapback]1517162[/snapback]
That's only one of the many stupid leaps of logic in that film. The largest being why would a species that is killed by water attack a planet that is mostly water. We have the technology now to tell the make-up of planest atmospheres through spectrometry. You'd think they would. You'd also assume they'd have better weapons than sprayable gas from their wrists and, perhaps, radio technology so they wouldn't have to leave marks all over the ground to denote things.
When I first watched this movie I thought it pretty well sucked, but then I started to read some of the threads on the imdb.com message board for this movie and it started to make sense. The movie is full of symbolism, but I think many of us nowadays are not of the mindset to look for symbols because movies that make people think aren't all that popular and don't rake in the big bucks that studios want. So the director had to cloak the symbolism by making the movie appear to be more along the lines of a mainstream sci-fi/action movie. And because most people are looking at the movie as being the latter, when some of this symbolic stuff creeps into the movie it throughs them off and makes the movie look "stupid" etc. Now that I look at it, I think what the director has accomplished here is more deserving of praise than I had previously thought he deserved.
KGS
KGS3333
Jan 27 2007, 05:40 AM
QUOTE(liokee @ Jan 27 2007, 05:28 AM) [snapback]1517804[/snapback]
I was wondering that, myself... I also wondered if God told Dorothy (Jesus?) to throw a bucket of water on the Wicked Witch of the West (Satan, in green?)...

I'm not so sure about that, I just think that the point was that there is a reason for everything; there are no coincidences.
KGS
Ashley-Star*Child
Jan 27 2007, 11:15 AM
Er, because it's a fiction movie and someone didn't think of that when they were making it.
Razer
Jan 27 2007, 12:00 PM
QUOTE(*Armageddon Signs* @ Jan 26 2007, 09:39 PM) [snapback]1517094[/snapback]
Why couldnt the alien get through the door when they were all locked up downstairs?? I mean they can fly a spaceship and have a lot of technology but they cant get through a door, me and some of my friends were talking about that eariler today. just wondering

Maybe he was some sort of drone and not all that bright.
Cryticman
Jan 27 2007, 02:59 PM
I didn't understand how a person killed an advanced alien being with just some glass, water and a baseball bat. It was kinda fun to watch an alien die like that...
Anyways the aliens would have to be uder "de de de's" to come to a planet with 80% water. To the aliens thats acid...
aquatus1
Jan 27 2007, 04:19 PM
It's a little bit like us going to Venus and walking out without a suit.
louie
Jan 27 2007, 05:10 PM
What annoyed me about the film was it started out with a good idea but then of course the only reason the aliens came was to kill us all and take ove rbut of course good old human perservance kicks ass and they aliens get defeated,,,, we need more movies about aliens coming here and how we intergrate with them
EmpressStarXVII
Jan 27 2007, 07:10 PM
M. Night Shyamalan is famous for these types of movies. I agree that he left the theory of how the aliens couldn't get through tthe door, open for the viewer to determine.
itsnotoutthere
Jan 27 2007, 07:20 PM
It was only a film for god sake, perhaps it was to build the tension!
ssllaayyeerr
Jan 31 2007, 08:26 PM
Awwwwww come on!!!! M. Night Shyamalan film!!!! Reasearch him geeeezzz! He's only the best director EVER!!!!
jaylemurph
Jan 31 2007, 09:33 PM
QUOTE(KGS3333 @ Jan 26 2007, 04:51 PM) [snapback]1517111[/snapback]
It's been a while since I watched this movie so the actual course of events is a little foggy, but one thing you have to keep in mind is that this movie has much Christian symbolism. So why they can't get through the door has nothing to do with technology, rather is based on something more spiritual.
KGS
Christians see the hand of god everywhere: books, shrouds, grilled cheese sandwiches, floating through the hills of Portugal. Why not in a film?
--Jaylemurph
KGS3333
Feb 2 2007, 04:27 AM
I don't know, beats me.
KGS
KGS3333
Feb 2 2007, 04:30 AM
QUOTE(ssllaayyeerr @ Jan 31 2007, 08:26 PM) [snapback]1524324[/snapback]
Awwwwww come on!!!! M. Night Shyamalan film!!!! Reasearch him geeeezzz! He's only the best director EVER!!!!

What about Kurosawa, hmmm?
KGS
jaylemurph
Feb 2 2007, 05:29 AM
I'm saying Bert Brecht is the best director ever.
--Jaylemurph
ghostboy83
Feb 2 2007, 06:20 AM
Well since our air has moisture in it, you'd think they would die right away... That was such a stupid movie.
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