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Moe
I personally feel relieved of the belief that after we die, we simply cease to exist in any type of form. Also, I personally do not want an afterlife, I just one day want it ALL to end, and just cease to exist. That is true eternal peace in my mind. what you guys say?
Cadetak
Every good book needs an ending...if you drag the story out to long it becomes stale.

brave_new_world
QUOTE(Moe @ Jan 28 2007, 04:03 PM) [snapback]1519332[/snapback]
I personally feel relieved of the belief that after we die, we simply cease to exist in any type of form. Also, I personally do not want an afterlife, I just one day want it ALL to end, and just cease to exist. That is true eternal peace in my mind. what you guys say?


Well if death is just and endless deep sleep then you'll get that sort of peace of mind.
Razer
QUOTE(Moe @ Jan 28 2007, 07:03 AM) [snapback]1519332[/snapback]
I personally feel relieved of the belief that after we die, we simply cease to exist in any type of form. Also, I personally do not want an afterlife, I just one day want it ALL to end, and just cease to exist. That is true eternal peace in my mind. what you guys say?


After a really bad day I have often felt like that but I really believe that death is not the end. I think if you don't find peace in this life you will be destined to struggle though life again and again until you do find that peace.
Paranoid Android
Edited thread title to differentiate topic question from your other thread of the exact same name.
GoddessWhispers
Why not join the two threads, given they're about the same topic!? original.gif
rev r
What I want never enters the picture. Death is inevitable and the moment of death is unknown. Obsessing over it doesn't change anything but takes perfectly good effort away from something more worthwhile.
Paranoid Android
QUOTE(GoddessWhispers @ Jan 29 2007, 12:05 AM) [snapback]1519536[/snapback]
Why not join the two threads, given they're about the same topic!? original.gif
Because I feel the two topics are separate enough to encourage different directions in discussions. I could be wrong of course, and if it becomes obvious that the two threads are going over the same material, I will of course ammend my stance. But as is, I'm happy to leave them separate original.gif
Darkwind
QUOTE(Moe @ Jan 28 2007, 07:03 AM) [snapback]1519332[/snapback]
I personally feel relieved of the belief that after we die, we simply cease to exist in any type of form. Also, I personally do not want an afterlife, I just one day want it ALL to end, and just cease to exist. That is true eternal peace in my mind. what you guys say?


The experiences I have had with death in my family I know there is an after life. You never know Moe it might be better than this one. I always look forward to seeing what is around the bend. I want to go on learning what life has to offer.
Moe is there some in your life that makes you not want to live. Your posts make me nervous thinking your in a bad place. I have been in that dark place to the point I wanted to die, but I got help and now I am much better. If your in that dark place please get help it is worth it. PM me if you want I am a good listener.
GoddessWhispers
In matters of self-respect, I have no use for projections of heavens and hells. We all know that everything dies. We're the only thing that does, that contrives a fable to comfort us and lead us to believe it's really just another life, after we're obviously gone from this one. What if this life is all there is?! That's how I live it. After I figure I trust science to tell me nothing really ends, it just reforms. But I don't think what reforms could ever be this being, again. And I think having faith what awaits is horrific, accepting that as possible and worthy for our actions, reflects a very real level of not giving ones self enough credit to trust one is worthy of living because they do. Rather than seeing themselves as unworthy of any of it, save for hoping to suffer through to be judged worthy of better, later when the flesh is dead and the mind that occupied itself with such fallacies, is no longer that matter deceiving itself.
SilverCougar
Wait.. there's still this death trend. That to would be nice if there wasn't so many death threads. But.. adjusted, and a nice cuppa.

But you get no wisdom from me on this. You die.. you go where you want to go. I've no say in the afterlife. I'd rather just be a guide through actual life for people. You die.. yer on yer own. wink2.gif
Darkwind
psst... Miss Kitty he is talking about no afterlife not the end of the world.
SilverCougar
meh... haven't had my first cuppa yet...

I'll adjust it accordingly...
Matches
If our first death was our final death, a final sleep, a nothingness, where does our energy go? The energy of our bodies is assimilated back into the earth through our decay. In a sense, one could say that this in itself is a sort of afterlife. My personal beliefs are that you get what you believe. The observer influences the phenomenon observed. If your consciousness truly believes that there will be something after, I believe that your consciousness will continue to live on, to some extent. Of course, this is all a matter of opinion, but the topic opener asked for opinion. Eh, don't lose hope. We all die some day. Live life the best you can, just in case it really is the end of it.
Moondoggy
I cannot say I agree with Moe, because peace has to be experienced and that takes a concious being. If you cease to exhist then you would not be aware of this peace you look forward to. Sleep may seem "peaceful" or sometimes "nightmarish", that is because your deep conciousness is alive and produces dreams etc...
Joke_Master_Mandy
I used to think that it would be better if death were just one big eternal sleep. In a way it takes a lot of the fear out of death, because this way you would never know you were dead, and you would know exactly what was going to happen to you when you died, there was no uncertainty or fear. Plus, you wouldn't have to worry about Hell, so thats a big plus. Of course this was back when I was really depressed and hated all aspects of life, even the afterlife. My views have changed a lot and I think it would be interesting if something was to come after we die. I go to a catholic school so I've been taught a lot about Christianity, and the way that they describe heaven is a realm of "unfathomable joy", or a state of perpetual happiness. In this life there is no joy without pain, if there was no pain we wouldn't know what joy was. That idea is totally lost in heaven, there is no pain. Heaven is not just an extension of life, you don't go to heaven as you are now, you're transformed into a totally different being that cannot feel pain. Emotions like sadness, dissapointment, boredom, and discontent are removed from you completely. The human mind can't begin to understand heaven. Even if there is no heaven, I doubt the afterlife will be anything like this one. I wouldn't want it to be like this one. Even though we try to make the best of it, this life is still full of pain, which is why I would never want to be reincarnated. I just refuse to believe that after these complex lives that we live at the end it all goes poof.
spikeman25
QUOTE(Moe @ Jan 28 2007, 07:03 AM) [snapback]1519332[/snapback]
I personally feel relieved of the belief that after we die, we simply cease to exist in any type of form. Also, I personally do not want an afterlife, I just one day want it ALL to end, and just cease to exist. That is true eternal peace in my mind. what you guys say?
Sometimes. Everynow and then i feel i lead a meaningless existance, or neverending if you will and sometimes i get sick of it all once in a while, But i guess i question why i was put here and i think we all do to a certain point, But i'm not suicidal or even depressed for that matter, As far as eternity goes, Well eternity is never ending and time does not exist there , And i just don't know what i'd do with myself to be honest.
brave_new_world
Just listen to some Robbie Williams. That always cheers me up.
Exeter
I really hope it all ends after death. I mean, what if a person lives to be 109, and they're completely senile, bereft of all but the most simplest of thought? Would you want to spend an eternity like that, or are we supposed to miraculously snap back into our most insightful moment we had in youth? And what if some of us were never that insightful to begin with? wacko.gif

Naw, give me eternal rest. If death is like being put under right before an operation, then give me that little buzz and let me sleep forever. thumbsup.gif
Moe
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Naw, give me eternal rest. If death is like being put under right before an operation, then give me that little buzz and let me sleep forever. thumbsup.gif



I totally agree. Not existing is true eternal peace in my mind, because by not existing all of your worries, and stress cease to exist. You will never have to feel uncomfortable or feel depressed ever again.
Moe
QUOTE(Darkwind @ Jan 28 2007, 06:02 AM) [snapback]1519563[/snapback]
The experiences I have had with death in my family I know there is an after life. You never know Moe it might be better than this one. I always look forward to seeing what is around the bend. I want to go on learning what life has to offer.
Moe is there some in your life that makes you not want to live. Your posts make me nervous thinking your in a bad place. I have been in that dark place to the point I wanted to die, but I got help and now I am much better. If your in that dark place please get help it is worth it. PM me if you want I am a good listener.


I appreciate your sympathy Darkwind. Thank you. However, I do feel that life, in general, is utterly meaningless, because one day we are going to die and none of this is going to matter anymore; life has no purpose. There is no point of doing anything, really. Yet, I do not have courage to kill myself as I fear what awaits me after death; what if death is worst then life? Also, I am an atheist and I do not believe in any sort of deity. Thus, I hope that when we die we will cease to exist, therefore granting us perpetual peace.
R3LOAD
you guys have to remember, yes if there is nothing then there is no more sadness or grief but also there is no more happiness or the fact you would never see your family again. and i dont think it would be peacefull. it would be nothing and 6 feet above your rotting corpse we would all still be murdering eachother over stupid things. I dont know if i can really explain what im thinking so ill stop
Moe
QUOTE(R3LOAD @ Feb 3 2007, 12:49 PM) [snapback]1528350[/snapback]
you guys have to remember, yes if there is nothing then there is no more sadness or grief but also there is no more happiness or the fact you would never see your family again. and i dont think it would be peacefull. it would be nothing and 6 feet above your rotting corpse we would all still be murdering eachother over stupid things. I dont know if i can really explain what im thinking so ill stop


But if you do not exist, you will not have to worry about being happy or seeing your loved ones, because YOU DO NOT EXIST.
Moe
Death, and the meaning of life is completely driving me insane. Everyday when I wake up, I am entrenched with this dreadful thought, which gives me this awful feeling in my stomach. I think I am going mad.
Irish
QUOTE(Moe @ Feb 3 2007, 01:57 PM) [snapback]1528363[/snapback]
Death, and the meaning of life is completely driving me insane. Everyday when I wake up, I am entrenched with this dreadful thought, which gives me this awful feeling in my stomach. I think I am going mad.

You said yourself that there is a purpose to life, yet life is short so perhaps the reason for that purpose exists in the afterlife. thumbsup.gif

Irish
spikeman25
QUOTE(Exeter @ Feb 3 2007, 11:54 AM) [snapback]1527908[/snapback]
I really hope it all ends after death. I mean, what if a person lives to be 109, and they're completely senile, bereft of all but the most simplest of thought? Would you want to spend an eternity like that, or are we supposed to miraculously snap back into our most insightful moment we had in youth? And what if some of us were never that insightful to begin with? wacko.gif

Naw, give me eternal rest. If death is like being put under right before an operation, then give me that little buzz and let me sleep forever. thumbsup.gif
From what i heard a couple of years ago when you die your not as old as when you died meaning that if you were older say i your eighties or over you would be in your thirtys or close to it, As far as younger people say like somebody like myself that's 26 and i died unexpedtedly, I would never be any older than what i am now.
Moondoggy
QUOTE(Moe @ Jan 27 2007, 11:03 PM) [snapback]1519332[/snapback]
I personally feel relieved of the belief that after we die, we simply cease to exist in any type of form. Also, I personally do not want an afterlife, I just one day want it ALL to end, and just cease to exist. That is true eternal peace in my mind. what you guys say?

Sorry Moe, I do not want it to end. If nothing awaits us you will not have peace of mind, because mind is conciousness. A lot of people who sleep too much have ideas like this. Life is really pretty good I think, it all depends on your focus and perspective.
Nova Scotia
If this is a creation (I beleave it is) why did God make so much space ? How big of a plan would need that kind of space ? a universe .

wouldn't you want to be a part of it Moe?
Moondoggy
I think Moe needs to come with me to Nevada, I will make sure he leaves with a smile on his face
ramster83
This is a very depressing thread- reading the question the responses yet i completely understand what everyone is saying. I dont really "question" WHY im here - i just think about WHAT i can do. Honestly if you concentrated on life, the meaning and the afterlife you just completely lose the plot. Ive done it and it really messes me up. Our minds are not able to comprehend such questions - it cant grasp the concept of it all and straining your mind about lifes meaning and the afterlife is an awful stress to the brain - its mentally more than challenging so stop thinking about why you are here. You will never know why you are here. As for the end of the road? I hope for an afterlife. I love my family and friends so much and i feel our connections arent only mental and physical i believe we spiritually connect with people who will join us to the next life - thats true happiness...Being with those you love in a lovely place. I hope heaven exists and i hope God isnt as restrictive as he sounds.
Cadetak
If you think life is pointless and meaningless then you are going to end up thinking the same about the afterlife.

Quote Time!

"If nothing we do matters then all that matters is what we do."

''Death is more universal than life; everyone dies but not everyone lives."

"Death is nothing to us, since where we are, death has not come, and when death has come, we are not."

"The idea of death, the fear of it, haunts the human animal like nothing else; it is a mainspring of human activity designed largely to avoid the fatality of death, to overcome it by denying in some way that it is the final destiny of man."

"We cannot banish dangers, but we can banish fears. We must not demean life by standing in awe of death."

"Men fear death as children fear to go in the dark; and as that natural fear in children is increased by tales, so is the other."

"The fear of death is nothing more than the fear of a life unlived."
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