louie
Jan 30 2007, 02:22 PM
Others investigated in Canada serial-killing case By Allan Dowd
Mon Jan 29, 7:35 PM ET
NEW WESTMINSTER, British Columbia (Reuters) - Police investigating accused serial killer Robert Pickton arrested three other people during the probe, but did not pursue charges against them, a Canadian court heard on Monday
Dinah Taylor and Lynn Ellingsen were arrested in February 2002 after police raided Pickton's farm -- but before he was formally charged with murder -- and Pat Casanova was arrested in January 2003, Royal Canadian Mounted Police Insp. Don Adam said.
Taylor, Ellingsen and Casanova all knew Pickton, and are expected to be called as prosecution witnesses in the murder trial in New Westminster, British Columbia.
Pickton has pleaded not guilty and is the only person charged with murder in the investigation of more than 60 missing Vancouver women.
This trial deals with six of the 26 first degree murder charges he now faces. The judge divided the case into two trials to make it easier for jurors to handle.
Pickton's attorneys have denied he was responsible for the six murders, but acknowledged that the women's remains were found on his pig farm in the Vancouver suburb of Port Coquitlam, British Columbia.
Police say Pickton, 57, brought prostitutes to his farm, killed them, butchered their bodies and disposed of the remains.
Adam, under cross examination by Pickton's attorney, told the court that Taylor, Ellingsen and Casanova were all thoroughly investigated during the probe.
Police have said they believe a woman helped Pickton bring prostitutes to his farm, and they told Pickton after his arrest that Ellingsen had told them she witnessed him cutting up a woman's body in the farm's slaughterhouse.
Adam, who headed the investigation into the missing women, said Pickton was known to the special task force before he was arrested on February 5, 2002, by officers investigating an unrelated weapons complaint.
Items found in Pickton's trailer home by the officers looking for an illegal gun led to murder charges being filed.
Adam said he knew soon after the gun raid that the investigation of the farm would have to be massive and require careful planning.
"You don't go on to a farm like that and rush around as if you're on some Easter egg hunt looking for a hot piece of evidence," Adam said.
Investigators spent 18 months on the ramshackle property and say they eventually found DNA belonging to 31 of the missing women, who were all drug addicts or sex trade workers from Vancouver's poor Downtown Eastside neighborhood.
ASOP
Jan 30 2007, 08:10 PM
I think this monster had help but then again I could be wrong. His brother and sister lived on the pig farm with him did they not see anything (like women being chopped up and fed to pigs) going on? This guy is CREEPY looking and so is his brother I dont even want to see what sis looks like.
BurnSide
Jan 30 2007, 08:18 PM
I've been following the Pickton trial and it really is some of the most disturbing accounts of.. well.. of utter sickness that I have ever heard off.
In response to the article saying the police believe he had help, get this. Apparently they took a woman into custody who admitted witnessing Pickton hang a woman on a meat hook and then proceed to skin the woman. Instead of turning him into the police or anything logical like that, she blackmailed Pickton and then kept quiet about it.
As i was saying to my roommate while watching the court highlights on the news, this is legend horror in the making. We'll have a 'BC Farmhouse Chainsaw Massacre' movie about it in a few years, as disgusting as i'm aware that is.
ASOP
Jan 30 2007, 08:25 PM
What could you possibly blackmail some one like him for.
BurnSide
Jan 30 2007, 08:58 PM
Money i guess.
TooFarGone
Jan 30 2007, 11:26 PM
This whole thing is crazy......going to be in the ranks of Ed Gein.
The media is having a circus with this, and in the end, millions is going to be made from publishing rights, movie deals, interviews, etc.
Shankpin
Jan 31 2007, 02:45 AM
From what I've read so far, this guy isn't a far cry from David Parker Ray, and his girlfriend, Cynthia Lea Hendy.
Saint
Jan 31 2007, 10:23 AM
*Yippeee!! - rubs hands in glee* - a real horrific serial killer case for me to get my teeth into!!
ASOP
Jan 31 2007, 07:28 PM
BurnSide do you live far from Pickton's horror farm?
BurnSide
Jan 31 2007, 07:52 PM
Oh yes, i'm on the other side of the country. Thankfully.
However, i was actually talking to a friend of mine who moved out to the West Coast about a year ago and he was telling me what a media frenzy it is there. He actually lives in the same 5 mile radius that Pickton abducted most of his victims from. Crazy.
CaitSith
Jan 31 2007, 08:06 PM
I hope your friend wasn't close to any of the victims. I mean I know most of them were hookers but still.
BurnSide
Jan 31 2007, 08:12 PM
He didn't know any of them no.
ASOP
Jan 31 2007, 08:58 PM
Keep us posted. Thanks BurnSide
jem1066
Feb 7 2007, 09:27 AM
It seems y'all are writing from a different point of view from where I'm coming from. What's happened sucks, but it's the 'unexplained mysteries' part I'm interested in.
For years (since I was 13ish, I'm now 32) I've been having the most horrid re-current dreams where I am trying to escape from a caravan-or-shipping container. I enter the dream inside the container, and around me is arms, blood, all the gore that just isn't good to be around. I try to escape, tripping over an arm on the way, and once outside can feel (someone) chasing me. I'm so scared I can't breath. As I attempt to run down the hill, there are containers or caravans all over the place, organised into a kind of street. I trip, and can feel the knife go through my back and I hit the ground. I'm sure you can imagine where this is going.
Anyway, the last time I had this dream was half way through last year. I woke up trapped in between sleeping and awake, thinking if I opened my eyes they'd get me in awake time.
This relates to this whole pig farmer deal because I swear it was his place where this dream took place. Last week, on the other side of the world from where it all happened, I read a news story about Pinkerton wanting to hit 50 (reminds me of 'The Frighteners', an early B-grade Peter Jackson movie, bloody good, by the way). I did some google-ing, found the address of the farm, and entered it into google-earth (no, I'm not an advert for GoogleCorp). When I found his farm, I broke into tears - as this was the place that my dreams had been happening. if you look up 2552 Burns Rd, Port Coquitlam, BC, Canada, you can see his farm. My dreams took place in between the two buildings parallel to the road framed by the clearing (like a road) and a gathering of some other sheds etc.
Anyway, I'd love to hear from anyone who has had a similar experience. I'm still trying to resolve this (the worst thing is that I don't feel like that Pinkerton dude did it), and I'm hoping that it'll mean my dreams are over. Perhaps it's part of a super-conscience, or some such.
ASOP
Feb 7 2007, 07:23 PM
Woooo that's a crazy dream but I really think Pickton did do it I also think he had help.
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