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bornagainuhmanduh
What do you all think about global dimming along with warming? Here is a link: click me I'm a link
There is also an interesting NOVA program on this subject. Here is a link to that NOVA . There is a lot of info and you can even read the transcripts.

And here is an excerpt from the wiki link.

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"Some scientists now consider that the effects of global dimming have masked the effect of global warming to some extent and that resolving global dimming may therefore lead to increases in predictions of future temperature rise.[14] According to Beate Liebert, "We lived in a global warming plus a global dimming world and now we are taking out global dimming. So we end up with the global warming world, which will be much worse than we thought it will be, much hotter."[36] The magnitude of this masking effect is one of the central problems in climate change with significant implications for future climate changes and policy responses to global warming.[37]

But it's much more complicated than an either warming or dimming issue. Global warming and global dimming are not mutually exclusive or contradictory. In a paper published March 8 in the American Geophysical Union's Geophysical Research Letters, a research team led by Anastasia Romanou of Columbia University's Department of Applied Physics and Mathematics, New York, also showed that the apparently opposing forces of global warming and global dimming can occur at the same time.[38] Global dimming interacts with global warming by blocking sunlight that would otherwise cause evaporation and the particulates bind to water droplets. Water vapor is one of the greenhouse gases. On the other hand, global dimming is affected by evaporation and rain. Rain has the effect of clearing out polluted skies.

Climatologists are stressing that the roots of both global dimming causing pollutants and global warming causing greenhouse gases have to be dealt with together and soon.[39]"


Global dimming basically means that there is an increase in particulates due to pollution entering the atmosphere, evaporated water droplets bind to them, creating lighter particles of evaporated globules of water in cloud formation. This in turn leads to an increase in cloud cover, without a release because the combined water droplets aren't heavy enough to form rain. That really doesn't cover the issue totally, but it's kind of an intro to dimming.

There is a great deal of evidence to support this from data of normal rain cycles being affected in Africa, as well as data gathered after the grounding of all air traffic on 9/11 in the US (which means less particulate pollution) that clearly showed an increase in daytime temperatures and a decrease in nightime temperatures, suggesting greater variation overall in day to night levels from a reduction in cloud cover and water vapor overall.
graylady2
QUOTE(IamsSon @ Feb 12 2007, 05:04 PM) [snapback]1540432[/snapback]
I have some questions for those of you who believe Man is a Main/Major cause of global warming:

Why is it so important to you that man be held responsible for this? How will that make it any better or worse, especially now that some global warming "experts" are saying it's too late to reverse the process?


Because we *can* do something about it. We need to give up some of our 'creature comforts' in order to do so. Humanity is innately selfish, so, what are the chances we're going to do that?

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Also, what are you doing to insure that China, India, and most of Africa are lowering their levels of pollution?


You either need to research what you're stating - which is erroneous - or, if you need a visual aid - watch An Inconvenient Truth... if this doesn't answer your questions nothing will. You'll just have to view the world through that toxic haze you don't think we're responsible for.
dmurdock36
QUOTE(Robert M. Blevins @ Jan 31 2007, 09:21 PM) [snapback]1524898[/snapback]
Global warming is real enough. Why take the word of thousands of scientists, though? Just look around your own area and try to tell yourself the weather hasn't changed dramatically since 1998 or before.
There are many books out there on the subject.

Now for something different...

For the last four months, Adventure Books of Seattle has been creating a book built from two things:
1) Webform submissions from people around the globe, ordinary folks mostly, who give their opinions, the changes where they live, possible solutions.

2) Before and after images showing the effects of global warming.

The book is titled 'A Thousand Voices - A Testament on Global Warming.' and is edited by yours truly and Geoff Nelder of Great Britain. Mr. Nelder is a teacher and a Post-Graduate Fellow of the Royal Meteorological Society. It's easy to participate, and all submissions except off-topic or spam will be published. Check the Adventure Books Video on why we decided to do the book, or go to the Global Warming Book page at AB and read full details. If you have some thoughts, or an opinion, you may as well have your voice heard... wink2.gif

I am sitting here in west texas its easter and there is snow on the ground that sounds like odd weather but it isnt it is actually quite normal and I have noticed no change at all in the weather since 1998 other than the normal climate changes that we have been experiencing forever and will continue to see nothing out of the normal that would lead me to beleive the climate is changing.
joc
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You either need to research what you're stating - which is erroneous - or, if you need a visual aid - watch An Inconvenient Truth... if this doesn't answer your questions nothing will. You'll just have to view the world through that toxic haze you don't think we're responsible for.


An Inconvenient Truth?! Are you serious? You are so completely out of touch with reality it isn't even humorous.
sirfiroth
QUOTE(joc @ Apr 9 2007, 11:06 PM) [snapback]1621032[/snapback]
An Inconvenient Truth?! Are you serious? You are so completely out of touch with reality it isn't even humorous.



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It snowed in Albuquerque, NM yesterday, it never snows in Albuquerque this late in the season. is this because of Global Warming?
Check out these websites:

http://www.environmentaldefense.org/page.cfm?tagID=1011
http://www.abd.org.uk/green_myths.htm
http://meteo.lcd.lu/globalwarming/Carter/l...ming_myths.html
http://www.ourcivilisation.com/aginatur/moregw.htm
http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Cor...14/3748254.html
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=19468
http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=20645

Cheers!
graylady2
QUOTE(joc @ Apr 9 2007, 06:06 PM) [snapback]1621032[/snapback]
An Inconvenient Truth?! Are you serious? You are so completely out of touch with reality it isn't even humorous.


Lol! You're definitely not a psychic...
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