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Reincarnated
I encourage everyone to replace their house hold bulbs with compact fluorescent lights. They may cost a little more but they end up paying for themsevles and saving you money in the long run. It is great to see a state actually implenting this in their quest to combat global warming. California has been making some good strides, hopefully other states will follow this trend.
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Calif. lawmaker: Turn off old-fashioned bulbs
January 31 2007: 8:14 AM EST

Lawmaker wants to replace traditional incandescent bulbs with compact fluorescent ones by 2012 in move to reduce energy use, greenhouse gases.

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) -- A California lawmaker wants to make his state the first to ban incandescent lightbulbs as part of California's groundbreaking initiatives to reduce energy use and greenhouse gases blamed for global warming.

The "How Many Legislators Does it Take to Change a Lightbulb Act" would ban incandescent lightbulbs by 2012 in favor of energy-saving compact fluorescent lightbulbs.

"Incandescent lightbulbs were first developed almost 125 years ago, and since that time they have undergone no major modifications," California Assemblyman Lloyd Levine said Tuesday.

"Meanwhile, they remain incredibly inefficient, converting only about 5 percent of the energy they receive into light." Levine is expected to introduce the legislation this week, his office said.

If passed, it would be another pioneering environmental effort in California, the most populous U.S. state. It became the first state to mandate cuts in greenhouse gas emissions, targeting a 25 percent reduction in emissions by 2020.

Compact fluorescent lightbulbs (CFLs) use about 25 percent of the energy of conventional lightbulbs.

Many CFLs have a spiral shape, which was introduced in 1980. By 2005, about 100 million CFLs were sold in the United States, or about 5 percent of the 2-billion-lightbulb market, according to the Environmental Protection Agency.

That number could more than double this year. Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (Charts) alone wants to sell 100 million CFLs at its stores by the end of 2007, the world's biggest retailer said in November.

While it will not give opinion on the possible California law, the EPA recommends CFLs.

"They save money and energy," EPA spokeswoman Enesta Jones said. "They are more convenient than other alternatives and come in different sizes and shapes to fit almost any fixture."

Also, CFLs generate 70 percent less heat than incandescent lights, Jones said.

About a fifth of the average U.S. home's electricity costs pays for lighting, which means even if CFLs initially cost more than conventional lightbulbs, consumers will save, Jones said.

A 20-watt CFL gives as much light as a 75-watt conventional bulb, and lasts 13 times longer, according to the Rocky Mountain Institute, a nonprofit group studying energy issues.

Southern California Edison, an Edison International (Charts) subsidiary and one of the state's biggest utilities, runs a program that cuts the cost of a CFL by $1 to $2.50. In the past year, SCE has helped consumers buy 6 million CFLs, it said.

California Energy Commission member Arthur Rosenfeld said an average home in California will save $40 to $50 per year if CFLs replace all incandescent bulbs.

While not commenting specifically on Levine's likely legislation, Rosenfeld, winner of the Enrico Fermi Presidential Award in 2006, said the switch from incandescent bulbs became feasible about five years ago when CFL performance improved.

"This is clearly an idea whose time has come," he said.

Levine, a Democrat from Van Nuys in Los Angeles, last year introduced a bill that will become law in July that requires most grocery stores to have plastic bag recycling.

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Lotus Flower
QUOTE(Reincarnated @ Feb 1 2007, 02:35 PM) [snapback]1525297[/snapback]
I encourage everyone to replace their house hold bulbs with compact fluorescent lights. They may cost a little more but they end up paying for themsevles and saving you money in the long run. It is great to see a state actually implenting this in their quest to combat global warming. California has been making some good strides, hopefully other states will follow this trend.


We use low energy lights in our home, they last for ages and ages, I am not sure if they are compact fluorescent lights as you describe, but they are low energy ones, they are only about 11 watts but light up the room like a 70 watt bulb. Originally it wasn't my idea but my husbands, I wouldn't use anything else now.
Fluffybunny
As wacky as it may sound, I think that if we were to cut corners like this in many different areas(better mileage on cars, wind power, ethenol, so on) we could end our need for foreign oil. This would be just one part of that, but I dream of the day when we can flip opec the bird and let the entire region do whatever it wants to itself. I would love to be able to be free of foreign oil and all of the problems associated with it.
ChristianExtremist
*slow clap*

Congradulations on saving 200 watts on your lightbulb replacment, now your heater is going to pump out exactly 200 more watts to make up for the energy deficit.
Razer

I use these lightbulbs and they are great.

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*slow clap*

Congradulations on saving 200 watts on your lightbulb replacment, now your heater is going to pump out exactly 200 more watts to make up for the energy deficit.


Are you trying to argue against these lightbulbs? Did it occor to you that for half the year most people don't even use their heaters and for people like me in SoCal rarely use our heaters because it doesn't get all that cold here in winter.
Celumnaz
While I abhor the Law getting involved, I do like those lights. We use them about everywhere. But can say if it were the law, I would fight it and put in the old ones. this is big brother style govt.
good idea for individual choice, good bulbs, bad bad legislators. wouldn't vote for any names on that bill ever again, even if they paid me. tongue.gif
MissMelsWell
I don't know... this winter I called my power company because my bills have been enormous since I purchased this very TINY house 5 years ago. I swear, my heat and electric bill is the same as my last house which was 3 times as large, and had a gas heated swimming pool.

Anyway, we got to talking about what will cause the bill to rise (other than the astronomical rise in engergy costs anyway) and the consultant was telling me that in reality, lights and light bulbs, Engergy Star appliances (including computers) and newer TV's, cost almost nothing to run and take very few killowatts. Clothes dryers and washers are killowat super-suckers, but the Energy Star ones do make a difference.

She mentioned that I could try the newer energy saver bulbs, but as far as my bill went, I probably wouldn't notice more than a few cents difference if even that. She did say that they wouldn't blow out as frequently, and that's where the cost savings might appear.

Personally, I have all incandescents in my house on purpose because I like the soft yellow light, rather than the harsher white light. I even hunted for almost 3 weeks looking for an incandescent track system for my kitchen, which was quite difficult to find these days. (the newer halogen or low volt lights in my opinion make food look greenish and rather icky haha).

Turned out that high cost of my bills was due to a very small but persistant leak in my electric hot water heater--something I never noticed until I hired a plummer to take a look. Once that was replaced and I reduced the usage of my gas fireplace, my bill went down considerably.
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