I read some of that stuff on ET's plans for the new age and it says that the world will end on 2012 with Earth splitting into two with the help of ET's weapons. I think it's TOTAL bogus, but those guys wrote a pretty long document on it, with some convincing arguments. I think this is going to be just like Y2K, where nothing happened, and again, 6/6/6, NOTHING, so if nothing does happen on 2012, I am just going to stop believing in these "timers" untill the "end". But what if it was true, what IF life really began as some ET experiment? And now that their experiment is complete, all they need to do is conclude it. AKA Blow us to kingdom come.

Im not saying that this will happen im asking what if? Now don't go on saying im crazy, once again im not stating this is what wil happen in 2012. I am simply asking for people's opinions on the possibilities of this and their thoughts on this subject.

In any case, all replies welcome.

lol.. Another end of the world date? I think I'll just slit my throat and get it over with. This is something like 400 "end of the world" scenario's in the last 150 years, try not to be surprised when you actually make it to 2013

why 2012...cuz the mayans said so...this is old...

I may have this all wrong, however isn't 2012 somehow linked in The Book of Revelations in The Bible, something about a war with Satan that lasts so many years but ends around 2025, so working back it appears to start in 2012?

*bangs head against desk*

There have been so many post about this. Use the search function before you post. And if you think something total bogus, why post it? And don't mention a document with "convincing arguments" without putting up a link.

I hope this is the last 2012 post and gets locked pretty quickly.

12/20/2012 is when the Mayan Long Count calendar restarts. The Mayans viewed time as a cyclical thing.

Most of the other stuff you'll read about 2012 is derived from that, or attempting to reconcile independant prophetic sources with the 2012 date. There are no dates given in the Book of Revalations, so if you read otherwise, it is probably bunk. Likewise, Nostradamus only listed a couple of dates in his work, none of them where 2012.

The last time the long count calendar restarted was some 6-thousand years ago. It kinda coincides with the start of human civilization. But the Earth didn't split in two then. Humans also existed before then.

A good thing to remember: ancient mythology does not necessarily equal reality (just a good thing to keep in mind).

Nobody knows when the end of the world will come. There are, unfortunately, many people who preoccupy themselves with this issue, and even more unfortunately, people who take advantage of other people by claiming to know when the end will come. Given the fact that asteroids have struck or nearly struck the Earth (and Moon) on occasion in recent centuries, something could easily happen with the next few decades.

KGS

you joined 2 days ago and already things have to be done your way, we don't need people like you here. if you have a comment, please be more respectful

nostradamus predicted that the world will end in 2012, he also predicted the invasion of europe, which apparently is coming pretty soon, and, no offence, america shouting its edit mouth off and saying, "hey look at all these fancy weapons" vietnam wasnt their war, it was just an excuse to show off theyre back catalogue. theyre bound to get themselves and the UK into trouble, what would they do if russia started something? anyway back to the story if you look at the environment and the way the world is,a nd the greenhouse effect and global warming and all that, i think there might be some truth to what nostradamus said, although i think its a bit extreme to say the world wil end, most likely become a place a lot like the one in waterworld, which is scary really.

none of my views or oppinions are meant to cause offence, theyre just whats on my mind.

Do you have a link or something to back this up??

If he has 'said' this, it might not be what he meant. Remeber the way people interpret things may not be what he originally/actually meant.

these are my own views, so i dont need a link. thanx.

also, i am new to the whole forum thing, so youll have to bear with me.

you have to admit, america had no place during that war. they had a lot of casualties, as do all wars, so really there was no need for all those deaths.

ty

The bible codes for what they are worth suggest a cosmic impact in Canada in 2012. Hmmm, maybe I will find another place to go hunting.

This "end of the world" crap is annoying. These self-anointed prophets are deluded about everything else so why should we trust them about their grasp of reality when it come to whats going on with our planet?

The smart money says that nothing special is going on. You are on the planet Earth. Its cooling down from its formation several billion years ago. Earthquakes, tsunamis, floods, volcanoes, mudslides, hurricanes, tornadoes, lightning fires, and the like are common fare on this planet. If these things werent happening, its likely the planet would not be habitable. When none of these things occurs any more, the planet will be dead.

Still, there are others think that governments are controlling the weather(!!) They cant keep secrets, control their own tongues, or predict yesterdays football scores, but they can control the weather. Yea right!

I thought Nostradamus said that the world would end in something around 2300? *shrugs*

I dont know if 2012 will bring fire and brimstone to mankind, but it's like the whole Y2K thing. Some are egar to see what the hype is about .

Nobody, not even the most fanatical of Nostradamuss disciples, has a clue what the passages might have meant before something acctually happens. Then, AFTER THE EVENT, the retroprophets shoehornes the event to fit the "prophecy."

James Randi and Cheetham read one of the more famous translations of the quatrains, allegedly predicting the rise of Adolf Hitler to power in Germany. Neither translation seems to make much sense, but at least Randis recognizes that "Hister" refers to a geographical region, not a person. (Hister is an ancient name for the Danube region.)

One thing Nostradamus didnt "predict" was that he would become a one-man industry in the 20th century. Publishing houses will never go broke printing the latest "predictions" culled from his manuscripts.

I like the natural progression you make referrence to also, it just makes good sense and it's measurable, it doesnt assault my common sense... I like things I can sink my teeth into (I still like ETH though ). Edgar Cayce and Myan myths are fun, I love this stuff but you cant reproduce it or show any of it to be useful on an ongoing basis. I'm not very impressed with predictions like this either.
So, is it a race between the sun swelling to a red giant or another ice age which may or may not kill off mankind? I guess we have the other possibilities like asteroid impact, cosmic ray burst et.. if earth cant run out cronologically and end naturally... Would love to see some calculated odds or stastistics by some astute mathemetician.... Hey, where'd Badeskov go? lol.... He'd never get out of here with this group!

im not a hardcore beliver that th world will end 2012, but this is my final statement for this forum. if the world really does end in 2012, and we've all ben wasting are time b****ing about it, then deary me. i say we should live life like it COULD end as soon as 2013. all im saying is that when the apocalypse does come, which it will, we will have wasted our time arguing. i hope im lucky enough to be dead when it comes anyway
attached is a little irony for you all

Thats for sure. We do kind of take the earth and our presence on it for granted. I'm guilty of "not living my life like it was the last day on earth" for sure. Hopefully I can teach my kid to live a little larger while its (he's) here.
Guilty, guilty. that is a good point Reece

I think this is total bs, but just out of curiosity, where exactly in Canada is this impact supposed to occur?

KGS

Exactly. This guy was a first-rate con artist. Not only did he dupe people of his time, he's managed to dupe countless people after his death. (Just like Edgar Cayce.)

KGS

-Yes, I read that somewhere as well.


The link is at the bottom of the page, look around before you say such attrocities ... I just though everyone knew about this...


-Thank You!


So embarrasing! Now I can't find the link! I will look around and see if I can find it, but meanwhile I will have to leave in shame

2012 interesting! 2+0+1+2=5 OMG HOLY CRAP CAN YOU SEE IT? AAARRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!

Which raises the question: What if you don't die tomorrow?

Anyway, like it's been said, 2012 is the next Y2K and 6/6/06. The Mayans decided to end the Long Count in that year for whatever reason. Maybe the hieroglyphs looked pretty. I beleive the world will end in 2012 with all the faith that I believe the world will end when my desk calendar of Dilbert comics runs out.

Nostradamus is a load of bull. He'd get wasted and look into a mirror or crystal ball, then BAM, prophecies! But the problem is that the prophecies are pretty vague and can be sometimes flat wrong to the situations they're applied to. As I recall, there are several glaring inconsistencies regarding one of the prophecies that put him on the map(The accidental death of a King Henri II).

To put it short, no one knows when the world is going to end.

No I can't see it.


That's right noone knows when the world will come to an end, and I was not claiming that it WOULD in 2012, I was just seeing where this would go and see what your thoughts on this was, the whole idea gives me the creeps, but when you think about it, it seems too holly wood - ish.

While im looking for that link, I remember the article mentioning that over 30 abductees mentioned the EXACT same story, that the world would end in 2012, with the Earth cracking in two. So yes, now we have "abductees" as our guide for life. What is this world coming to? An end I say! It is not the cracking of the earth that will end the world, it is the fear in us of this happening that will. Just as some say, if we spend forever arguing and crying about it forever, eventually we will not be prepared enough for an apocolypse or ice age or any other huge event of that nature.

Thank you, Haz, for yet another dose of logic...medicine for a diseased and troubled world...

World ends in 2012...damn, I've got what, another 5 years...and to think, Al Gore's saying we've got maybe two decades until "global warming" renders us doomed...that's 2025-ish.

Which is it?
I really need to know!

I tend to believe a Nobel Prize nominee...even if he has been nominated for scaring the poo out of elementary school kids with his nutty ideas that Greenland is gonna melt in 20 years and raise the oceans levels by 200 feet all across the united states...

Probably means that 2012 is 5 years away?

First of all everything you read about Nostradamus in regards to his prophecies all happen after the fact. For example his supposed 9/11 prophecy was a postdiction not a prediction.

In regards to 2012 all these theories came about because that is when the mayan calender ends. There is nothing to suggest the world ends in 2012 it is a speculative theory. All I have to say here is don't hold your breath guys. Every generation beleives the world will end during their time and it never does.

I saw a Unsolved Mysteries episode from before 2000 and they were talking about how some people thought the world would end in 2000. It didnt happen. I wish people would stop talking about it its depressing.

No he did not. He stated that his predictions run through the year 3797, (but didn't state the world ends then).

Personally I think Nostradamus mearly wrote a book of verse that predicts nothing. Nobody has ever used his works to actually predict the future. They take his words and find past events that seem somewhat similar to what Nostradamus wrote about, then proclaim that Nostradamus predicted it (nevermind that his words usually don't exactly match). Also his writing is vague enough, and long enough that they can be applied to anything. There are very few actual dates in his works.

Some say he predicted 9/11. Of course the very same verse was supposed to have been a prediction the TWA 800 disaster a few years earlier. (what? Nostradamus predicted two major disasters with the same verse? amazing! --LOL )

At least Edgar Cayce's prophesies are full of specifics so that he can be completely discredited (or validated) someday. Nostradamus's work is likely to dupe people for centuries to come because his writing is so vague.

Well, okay, that's true. Cayce certainly was more sophisticated.

KGS

These kinds of things were a dime a dozen. 2000 is a nice round number and that got everyone all worked up. If I remember correctly we were supposed to get hit by an asteroid in 1997. Still here, as far as I can tell.

KGS

ya im gonna set my watch bye what nostradamas says........his predictions have been tailored to fit ...id stick with the smurfs, papa is wise

ya im gonna set my watch bye what nostradamus says........his predictions have been tailored to fit ...id stick with the smurfs, papa is wise..who did that double post.....hmmmmmmmmm

Sorry Mr I-Joined-A-Whole-2-Months-Ago. I've been reading this board a lot over the last few months, and you can't tell me that this subject hasn't been flogged to death. There is simply nothing more to add to it.

Cool. But how would we know about it? How could some primitive folk figure out that these aliens were plotting our demise thousands of years in the future.

Oh wait, I get it...the aliens must have told them about it.

"So, we're like, totally gonna obliterate your species on the year 2012 AD. But it's like, a secret, kay?"

he didnt? i read somewhere thats when he predicted it. yes ive contrdacited myself by posting another statement. but these forums are so addictive lol. and up until now i thought alot of that stuff was true, cheers for the insights guys.

Well, thats not entirely accurate. Just as sure as the Sun comes up every morning, it is scheduled to die. Experts give it some 7 billion years, give or take a few, when it will turn into a bloated red giant. As the name implies, a red giant is a star swelled to gargantuan proportions. Earth would be first engulfed in heat and light, then vaporized.

That, my friends, is the end of the world.

well thats a load off my mind, i dont plan on living 7 billion years.

thank you Hazzard

People who complain about repeating topics arent thinking. There are new members and visitors here every day. Many of them talk about these topics for the first time and have no idea that they were posted before.

yes, the Sun will expand to a red giant (I think it's closer to 5 billion years than 7 BYr ), the Sun will expand out to about 99% of the distance to the Earth's present orbit of 1 astronomical unit. but, by then, the orbit of the Earth may have expanded to 1.7 astronomical units because of the reduced mass of the Sun. so, the planet 'might' escape being vaporized... but even if the Earth does survive, it'll be a burnt cinder, and there won't be any atmosphere or water...

Well, if I was to start to go all bible-wise, the war where the devil will bring chaos to this world starts in 2012, and ends in 2025, and then we got global warming! Woohoo! If one of those wouldn't kill us of the other will! Doesent it sound fun being pulled down to hell? Or if not washed up into the endless seas?

If the whole 2012 thing was true, oh boy would we be in trouble. Which brings me to the point that what if a WW3 comes to be? One country blames another for events happening, a war breaks out, another country is called in, and a chain reaction begins. It is indeed a depressing topic if it was all true, I hope it isn't, as I said, the thought of that is simply "Shkary".

The desire to believe that someone can tell the future is to believe in oracles!

There are literally dozens of strange techniques humans have developed in an effort to "see" events before they occur. Unfortunately, the only sure guide to the future is the past, and even that isnt always reliable.

Really? Where does the bible say that?



What the hell are you still doing here?

I'm waiting for that spiritual reawakening scenario to happen. A book I suggest reading:
2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl by Daniel Pinchbeck.

"So, we're like, totally gonna obliterate your species on the year 2012 AD. But it's like, a secret, kay?"- That's going into my quotes notebook!

Anyways, in the article, that's what the abductees described, they said ETs showed them pictures of what will come to be of Earth.

Woohoo! Found the link!

Here it is! -->Et's Plans For The New Age.

FAO all who believe this.....

Can you send me all your worldly goods?

No, there's alot of people who will claim that Nostradamus said this or said that. The best thing to do is read his book "Centuries" yourself (it's online). You'll quickly see that there is very little in the way of specific predictions in it. In the intro, Nostradamus wrote that nobody would understand his predictions until one man who would be born some centurys after Nostradamus would be able to decipher it. So basically he was saying himself that most people are wasting their time trying to predict the future with his work.