I've had a number of encounters with Christians, myself included, who claim they "know" what God's voice is like. They describe it as thoughts entering their heads when they read Scripture. I've seen some Christians make awful decisions based on such a "voice" and using methods to test it. This includes relationships being ruined, dropping out of school, ruining reputations needlessly, all leading to destruction. Each time, the person can't see it - and it makes sense that it comes to God due to common misconceptions about common teachings.

I believe God's will needs to be recognized first as who He reveals himself to be... Fear the Lord, and receive Wisdom. God is patient and works on the soul as well as the mind... The Holy Spirit doesn't give us wild thoughts or euphoria, but peace and understanding. It shows us what we need to do now in order to reach the goals God has revealed in our lives later, and gives us the strength to handle the part of God's kingdom that God places in our hands at the moment. I'm no expert, and this is different for everyone.

Satan will try to force you to do something desperate - we're attracted to this for some reason... God is patient, and works much deeper than evil or ourselves can reach.

Have you struggled with knowing what God's voice is for you? What kinds of mistakes have you made because of it if any? What is a more accurate picture of what God's voice is like and how to discern? How do we know what God's will is for our lives?

I think these questions are essential, because so many Christians are overly simplistic and misguided about this topic, and it leads to profound destruction.

-Uraeus

I myself have had experience .No man will ever tell me God don't exist .

And I relise its sometimes is a small voice .


But When Christ really speaks it will be a BOOMING CRASHING vibrateing voice that will ratle you like you could never dream .

good post good question ..i think patience is the major key ...like your said in your post..god is patient..so if god is patient so should we..specially when we think it is from god.pray in seeking gods will..if thats a main stream desire is for us to do gods will and seek it will all our desire..then i feel like he'll reveal his will to us.seems like he speaks to us a many ways .dreams reading preaching music..etc..seems like if we try and stay in tune with him through pray makes him easier to regonize..in which ever fashion he speaks to us in..

hm.. if I remember right.. (And I know a certain someone will either say "You're right!" Or correct me.. so watch for it...) God doesn't speak to people... the Metanon does. So when you hear a voice that is thought to be from the abrahamic god.. it's really that Metanon. (and no.. I didn't spell it right.) ;P

Well, the first big hint would be this: God contacts you. He tells you His plan. Your answer:

"...You want me to do what now? Ahh, can we talk about this?"

God has never contacted anyone without resulting in that person undergoing some serious pain. When God talks to you, he is asking you to do something, and if God is asking you to do something, don't expect to enjoy it. I defy anyone to find me a single biblical reference of someone who carried out God's will and enjoyed every moment of it.

Why is this? Don't know, don't really care. It would make a certain sort of sense that, if there is something that God himself can't or won't take care of on Earth, it would be pretty much a doozy for any human to do it. Regardless, whatever the reason is, when all is said and done, that is what happens. God talks. You listen. You hope he doesn't ask for a favor.

So, here's a quick test for you. If God asks you to shoot that evil abortion doctor for him, and you do it, and you end up with a big sense of accomplishment and you smile at the camera when you proudly proclaim you carried out God's will...guess what, you got fooled (your choice as to who was responsible for that). If, on the other hand, God asks you to go to a third-world country and teach kids, or if God asks you to protect the rainforest, or even if God asks you to give up smoking, take notice...You may be sleeping in a mud hut covered in flies, you may be chained up to a tree with a bunch of army ants sizing you up, you may be sitting in the living room cursing every gas station, supermarket, and newstore that sells cigarettes within fifty miles and wiping the sweat from your brow...but take heart that the suffering you are feeling...that's what everybody else who has had God tap them on the shoulder has gone through. God doesn't give out freebies. Never has, never will.

..............the what?..........which is?.........

Metatron (AH I looked it up)

Angel who is the voice for God.. or somesuch.

The Metatron

That messes up Saul/Paul's conversion story

I agree about the patience side of it. Also when I have felt God talking, He is not telling me to do something, He is telling me what He would like me to do and leaves the decision up to me whether to walk in faith with His wishes.

What inspired this post was not only my own life and confusion, but my roommate who decided to drop school within the course of a day (coming up with the idea and deciding to follow through in one day) for the sole reason that God's voice told him to - nothing else. He won't talk to anyone else or seek counsel, and I talked with him briefly. He says God's voice to him is like thoughts entering into his head.

I believe God wishes for us to seek wisdom and counsel from wise advisors as well. Proverbs 15:22 "Plans fail for lack of counsel, but with many advisers they succeed."

I just see the mindset of Christians, myself included, to follow a desperate, bold plan - that God's way can only be that way. I believe the key to discerning God's will and sensing the Holy Spirit is peace, patience, clear direction, and clear sovereignty in the situation for such a decision as say, dropping out of school or going on a mission trip or however big or small it may be. God's voice, the Holy Spirit, or wisdom working are not thoughts entering our heads... I believe that to be our own minds playing tricks or demonic influence. The patterns of such thoughts make this apparent, as well.

Peace,
-Uraeus

why shoot one when God can close Them All..an ya aint gotta shoot no one..
second would God be worried bout one tree instead of a soul? dont think god would have us worry bout trees instead of souls.just my opoion and i think thats where ppl get into trouble..ppl wantta used it as justification of their actions.

someimtes ppl lay down alotta things including cigarettes..and if your truely told by godto do that then really its much easier in doin then if you tried to put them down yourself for health reasons.or whatever...god is a deleiver..god tells us not to murmmer....that example owuld be murmmering..which would only make it harder on yourself..

contentment is a major factor in servering god..and even with the shoulder tappin we should be content..but just to jump at everylittle thought to say god said it...i feel is a bit over rated..all thoughts arent from god..your right with the freebies...we gotta give some kinda sacrifice..but also we should have joy in doing so..

awh..never heard of em...the metatron..
thought that angel was Gabriel?

Gabe's an archangel like Mike and uhm.. couple others. (names.. fail me) Metatron is apparently the guy who is the voice for god.

I've never struggled with knowing what God's voice is for me I dont think. And I dont really look at things which could be considered mistakes in my life as mistakes.. I look at everything as for a reason because its all of God. So anotherwords I havent made any, because its all been already. And for me God's voice is not a voice like that.. like I never hear a voice so to speak.. to me its more about the silence over the ego's voice. So God's voice is the silence, that lives with voice.. thats kinda how I look at it. And to know God's will I would say that the only thing you need to remember is that He created you to live. And if you remember that nothing else matters, and when He creates something to live, it lives forever so mistakes perceived are kinda irrelevant in the end.


I think thats all apart of free will though(dropping out of school etc)and is apart of the person finding who they are. So those things we may see as mistakes are only because we look upon things that way, and not as if its because it was meant to be. Like if it wasnt meant to be, then it wouldnt of been. And if its been, then how can it be a mistake. And in the time of choice.. its free will.

I also think the key to finding the Holy Spirit is to try to find it in others and to see past their.. mistakes.

There are 12 Archangel's and they all sit to the right of God only Gabriel is suppose to sit to the left of God, This is significat cause Gaberiel is the only Arch angel that is thought to be female and the bible tell's of women always being to the left of man...Just some history for you SC....

It's a good topic for study, but until you find God, you won't recognize "His" voice. Even after you find Him, you will still question whether it is Him or not. Such is human nature.

I've never sought after the "voice" of God, but I have looked for His will. I've discovered that if you find His will for your life, then that becomes His voice, with you as the speaker of the Light. The Body of Christ is not made up of only mouthes, or any other organ.

One of the biggest problems in Christianity today is doing our will vs. God's will. Deny yourself first, and you will always be doing God's will.

Thank you... I agree. In the past, I've sought after God's voice for guidance and seemed to get anything but that. Recently, I've focused on God's plan and will for my life so far as He's revealed, and the rest seems to fall into place... Not worrying about tomorrow but today and where each step will go on the path towards those goals.

After this is in place, God's comfort comes, and the Holy Spirit will speak in comfort and patience.

God bless,
-Uraeus

One of the biggest problems in Christianity today is doing our will vs. God's will. Deny yourself first, and you will always be doing God's will. dude. That explains my entire life. When I deny, I succeed, but never feel great. And when I succeed and feel great, something happens that ruins that feeling. It seems that I can never feel really happy, just normal. So, having that said, I am actually afraid of succeeding, so I try to ignore proper feelings of succeeding. It sucks. I am the smartest person in school, mentally and physically strong, (no bad person can change me)....... But I also have a thing where mostly 90% of the time when I expect something, it NEVER happens until I don't expect it. I always expect a girl. But it has its limitations(little though) It has upset me, but actually removing it would cause more harm because since I always think of bad things happening to me, it never happens, so religously, I could live forever. I live forever without a single kiss from a GIRL. Dude! That's depressing. Anyone know of curing this type of thing. It'll take some time to adapt, hopefully not to much though. The advantage part is that I could convince myself that my want will not happen, and it alawys happens. ALWAYS. Dude. This works with people's minds, electronics(some), myself, events, sicknesses. etc.

I would miss it, but the rewards in the end would be greater, much greater. If there is a cure.

I'm not sure how to reply to this, except to say, thanks for sharing this. I guess what I was trying to say is, don't "hear" voices, deny yourself and you will be God's voice. This place will disappear one day, but every good thing we did for others will remain, because it becomes part of the Body of Christ. The Body of Christ is a memory of all the good things that humanity does. It's a permanent voice in the darkness of Satan's kingdom on earth, which few today grieve for. If anyone grieves, they are not alone, but no one who is part of the Body of Christ can grieve all the time.

Something wonderful is about to happen, but before it does, something else.

Jesus said that the Jews had never heard Gods voice (John 5:37) and they wrote half the Bible lol. If Jesus claimed that Gods chosen people had never heard his voice what makes believers think they are hearing Gods voice today? Was Jesus lying?

Hearing voices, though seen as taboo in most societies, is not as uncommon as some people may believe. There have been some recent studies done on 'hearing voices in your head' by Dutch and British researchers - Can Hearing Voices In Your Head Be A Good Thing?

But if you prefer a more fantastical explanantion, if the voices are not of God they must be of the Devil. Is it any wonder that there have been numerous cases of these voices leading to murder? A recent story - Woman Charged in Daughters' Stabbings - not sure if this article mentions it but I believe she also killed their pets.

you are thinking ttttoooo much....you do not have to know how and why everything works...don't concern yourself so much with the mechanics especially over trivial matters...many of the issues of life can not be understood but sometimes must be accepted until such time comes that you can effect a change for the better....it is good that a bad person cannot change you...make decisions about your life yourself...success is what you think it is, the best for you, not to be measured by some one else....getting what you want is not a sin if it causes no harm to anyone else or yourself...enjoy your success as a gift from God Who has blessed you with the ability/es to accomplish most anything you want...the main reason things happen when you don't expect it is that you are trying to make something happen too hard...(don't be so hard on yourself)...Jesus had a plan for success (also knowing that everything does not always work out as planned). He says to plant the seeds. Some will fall on good soil and grow and succeed. some will fall between the stones and not do well. some will fall on the hard ground and be eated by birds or never even take root. in other words do the best you can in your life...the best things you will do in life that brings the most peace and pleasure is what you do for others that help them in their life.

i hope this helps you....

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