what looks like ufo's,what do you think?

http://www.alien-ufo-pictures.com/ufo_pictures4.html

The first and third pictures (of the ones with the arrows) definately look like traditional UFO's, but the second one is a little bit warped and could be soemthing else. Well, actually all of them could easily be something else, but the resemblance is definately there.

I have seen a lot of the carvings,and I think they were actual ufo's,also,in the bible,there are several times that flying objects have appeared,I think these carvings are proof of that.I think aliens are actually what was really here,instead of gods.

I concur.

From the linked website: "This picture shows what I believe to be excellent proof that Ancient Egypt was once home to UFO's their people and their ships. This picture reveals incredible precision and symetry, this piece looks machined to a degree that perfecting it today without machines would be next to impossible. And why would a supposed primitive people create such an odd shape with such precision. The only logical explanation is that they were not primitive."

...And, in defiance of 5,000 years of history before hand and 5,000 years after, the Egyptians slavish copied only objects they saw around them and never used their imagination to create new objects.

So what, anything that doesn't fit in with this one guy's narrow idea of what Egyptian art /ought/ to look like must have been made by aliens/super-advanced ancients?! Modern man is so in love with his own technology that the ancients aren't allowed to have any skill?


--Jaylemurph

Now that, I concur with.

Very interesting!

Sorry to say that I have absolutely no other input on the subject besides that this is what I've been pondering on and off for the past year or so, lol. There is also lots of UFO allusions in art (such as some Renassaince peices)

As for the "UFO" carvings - unless you were there and saw them this is nothing more than an ASSUMED meaning. You are looking at it through BIASED 20th Century Eyes. You have NO CLUE in all honesty what those symbols mean.

Here is a concept - go to an expert that can desipher these and see what he/she tells you -

We cannot ASSUME anything - but MUST take reasonable effort to seek out experts to be sure our 20th Century Bias - isn't at play - which in this case -0--- IT IS.

Jj -

What was the first picture, machined or found at the pyramid site, he never stated where the piece came from, what they think it is and what he thinks it is, i couldent see any info for the first picture.

Yes, I agree with you completely.

I agree , you have to look very deep and ask the right people and then have a educated guess to what it is.

I second all that. For the middle one I was thinking some kind of pottery thing, upside down for some unknown reason. Not that I'm saying it couldn't be a UFO, but considering the context they all require some solid substantiating evidence other than looking like something that isn't commonly accepted to exist. Is there anywhere that one can find the translation that goes along with these carvings?

Egyptian hieroglyphs are made up of series of different symbols put together to make up carved or written message, sometimes several symbols are literally put on top of one another
to form a particular 'phrase. What you are mistakenly seeing as a 'ufo' is in fact a collection of symbols put together. Look at the link, i found all these symbols quite quickly.

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/egyptian.htm#unicons

p.s. at least one of the photographs is upside down.

Hey nice find! That "UFO" then could make a lot of sense: Loaf of Bread to feed (Mouth). Look at the two symbols in the JPG and see the progression - Looks like a "Biased 20th Century UFO" but it's actually a loaf of bread and a mouth.

Click to view attachment

Ok - so did some, be honest now - JUMP w/their 20th Century Bias?? Be honest....

And what makes your eyes so much better than ours? An expert's eyes still have bias. Egyptologists are probably the worst about this kind of thing. THey will immediately tell you that's a symbol for eternity and it represents blah blah blah. They know just as much as we know about the Egyptians. Everything they do is conjecture, extrapolation, etc. They are using what they have and making theories from it. It makes me sick that they get some sort of expertise from observation skills. Jj, I'm having a hard time swallowing the posts you make. Please be less abrasive and more persuasive. WHen your mean I just want to kick you in the head and tell you how stupid your ideas are. Don't just come in here and tell us how wrong we are. Make an argument, please.

I did not make this thread to see people argue,I made it because I am interested in these kinds of things,and only wish to know your opinion.

Suggest that you read post #15 w/refference to post # 14 -- Note specifically the JPG. I think that pretty much clears this up. The post of #14 found an excellent sight which pretty much puts this to rest. A loaf of bread and a mouth. Time for a sandwhich!

Hi there, this is my first post so I'll attempt to make a good impression.

To answer the OP question accurately and literally I'd say that yes those pictures on that site resemble what are thought of as UFOs.

However, I could take a picture of a frisbee and ask "Does it look like a UFO?". I would say that the resemblence of the hieroglyphs and the ornamental bowl to flying discs is pure coincidence in my opinion.

As far as the glyphs are concerned the clear evidence in the link provided by ItsNotOutThere shows that they are merely that shape for the same reason an "a" is shaped like an "a"; it's just how things turned out with the written language.

The bowl was a little more tricky to find, especially as the author of the original web page hasn't referenced where he got the photographs or what they are of. After a little searching I did find this site which gives a more mainstream explanation: Clicky

Now the site doesn't speculate on why the bowl is shaped the way it is but my gut feeling is that it has nothing to do with UFOs.

EDIT for spelling - D'Oh

so what you're saying is, that a bunch of dudes speculating on a u.f.o. forum is a much more analytical process than any old Egyptologist can come up with.........right

As stated, Rezna - I did just that. See post number 15. The symbols actually make logical, rational sense for the symbol of MOUTH and LOAF (Bread) To put the two together makes sense too. And yes! When you put the two symbols together you have a 21st Century "UFO" - but it's actually a loaf of bread associated with a mouth. That is very LOGICAL and RATIONAL and COMMON SENSE.

So see in all actuality our 21st Century "Bias" did see something that is not what we 'see'. We see UFO - what is there is Mouth and Loaf of bread.

How much clearer can it be????

BTW: Again - itsnotoutthere, nice link - Thanks!! Well done!!

but what about some of the other pictures,nefertitti or however it is spelled,has a very long head,like some aliens we have seen in movies and on the internet,and the accounts in the bible,like when Elijah was raised up by something in the sky.I do not think it is impossible that maybe aliens created us,and not any god,one reason im athiest,everything would make much more logical sense.I mean,come on,out of the whole entire universe,do you really think we are the only intelligent life?that is pretty egocentric if you ask me.And do you really think that all ufo sightings are hoaxes or something explainable?If we are able to live on this planet,develop technology,go to the moon etc,why can't there be another race with a bit more developed technology?ever think maybe they are checking on us,trying to see how everything is going,maybe they really did create us.I tell you what,I believe that more than I could believe any religion,it just makes sense,I have never had a ufo sighting,but I have no doubt in my mind that there is intelligent life out there,and I think some of those ancient carvings prove it,along with a lot of other evidence.

also,the last picture on this page,http://www.alien-ufo-pictures.com/alien_pictures4.html

You're welcome ..

Just out of interest, this type of thing has come up before on other threads. Remember the one about some shape resembling an Apache helicopter, well after looking at the heiroglyphs it turned out to be a sarcophagus with a spear shape just above, which translated as 'dead king', but as you can guess this still wasn't enough to convince some that it wasn't really an egyptian Apache helicopter .

Let's take one at a time - the "UFO" is pretty clear what it is: Loaf of Bread next to a mouth - this would also be logical. Can we accept this?

See this is what bothers me to no small degree: A logical, rational and clear answer is given. So what happens - people "pull out other" - pic's and such - instead of first addressing the present issue at hand. Why the, what 'seems' desperate 'change the subject' instead of at least finishing the point??

So - the UFO - (Loaf of bread and mouth). Do we see how our 21st Century Bias very clearly miss-read this? That we "JUMPED" before doing any research??

Jj -

God lord, then, never visit a doctor, then! I mean, all they've been trained in is observation of symptoms. I take it you generally oppose education and expertise, since an increase in specialized knowledge may lead to a response you personally don't appove of!


--Jaylemurph

But the source page ...www.alien-ufo-pictures.com, do you think might perhaps have an agenda? It actually looks like some schoolboys homework project.

Firstly; where did you get the idea that Nefertiti had a long head? That's one I haven't heard before. Depictions of aliens in the movies and on the internet are, I'm afraid, fictional and cannot therefore be reliably used when trying to determine if something/someone is alien.


The problem with the bible is you never know when something is supposed to be factual and when it's supposed to be metaphorical. Personally I would not base an argument on the historical accuracy of the bible.


I believe that there is other intelligent life somewhere in the universe. To believe otherwise given the massive number of galaxies/stars/planets seems to be a little pessimistic. It is also not impossible for aliens to have created us indirectly(ie. through seeding the planet with single celled organisms). I don't believe, though, that some alien created us in our current form and then disappeared off for several hundred thousand years only to return and probe some poor rednecks bum(seriously, what would any being expect to find in there?).


Yes.


It's not as simple as discovering how to get somewhere. Once you have discovered how to cross interstella distances you then have to figure out where to go. In this vast universe one tiny little planet would be very easy to overlook.
What those ancient carvings prove is that a couple of thousand years ago someone stood in front of that rock with a hammer, a chisel and a determined look on their face. If you could read hieroglyphics then could probably glean some information from them.
I'll just outline a quick scenario for you on this whole spaceship hieroglyphics thing:
Imagine in some future time that all the people who use the latin alphabet are wiped out. After several thousand years some being that uses a different alphabet stumbles across a copy of A Midsummer Night's Dream. When the being looks at the text he sees some Ys and some Xs does that mean that Shakespeare knew about X and Y chromosones?


I'm not going to source the explanation for all of the pictures on that site, especially as the author doesn't want to tell anyone where they came from, but I have found an explanation for the picture you pointed out:

Clicky

Oh at long last...i've found someone who thinks like i do ...YES

A point well taken. There have been many claims made about this or that futuristic device being depicted in Egyptian "carvings" when in fact the "carvings" are really hieroglyphs. Imagine the letter "A." Looks like the stealth fighter, doesn't it? Turn it upside down and you'll see the ox it's originally based on.

Anyway, the Egyptians used art to depict objects and scenes and the like. They didn't use the individual glyphs of their system of writing to do so. That would be like me using the letters R o III to depict someone bowling.


R-T, I love that Catchpenny site. Found it several years ago. It's too bad that there are not more sites like it on the web, though it's true that I know of a handful of others - not exactly numbering in the millions like the ancient astronaut or even the Billy Meier sites.
The owner of the site (Larry Orcutt) is a very nice gentleman who is very liberal with his content, i.e. he doesn't mind anyone using it as long as it's for educational purposes.

Harte

I think the aliens helped the Egyptians build the pyramids.

so do I

why?

Yes & Elvis is alive & living on the moon.

The practice of head deformation by pressure to an infant's skull dates back to 2000 BC when the Ancient Egyptians used head binding to produce a cosmetically pleasing and fashionable skull shape.


Photograph by Leon Poirier and George Specht during the French Citroen Expedition through Africa, March 1925

LINK-> Headshaping
LINk-> Plagiocephaly and head binding

My wife claims to believe that this is true, though she is a crafty one!

Harte

Please don't start that one again.