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n00b1shm4n
Hey all i have a project due on nessy and i need yallz help, What are your views on nessy Real / Fake


and what is nessy.....elephant,eel, dino . and anything else about nessy you know........



THANKS!!!!!!!!!! BIG HELP IF POSTED SOON LOL !!!!!!!! TY
OtterLord
Ooooh, I want to know where you work if you're doing a project on Nessie. I believe in Nessie of the Loch, I believe there's more than one, and that she's a descendant of the plesiosaurs. But logs and oarfish are commonly mistaken for Nessie. I like the simple questions. yes.gif

EDIT: Welcome to the forum, and congratulations on being user number 49669.
Mad Hatter
Nessie is supposedly a long-necked plesiosaur, an extinct sea-reptile from the Age of Dinosaurs. Sightings began in 565 AD.
Argueta
I agree with Otterlord completely. I think a large percentage of "sightings" are fabricated or logs etc. mistaken as nessie. Animals don't see or hear things the way we do. Take bats for instance, they send out radar and are able to recieve it back and understand it. Since we've never been able to study nessie we don't know that she can't hear sonar. In fact it could be extremely loud and painful so it would make it easy for her to hide in the huge cavern system in the lake. That's my theory of how she has eluded sonar detection thus far. I didn't know that sightings started that far back in history, I think that is more supporting evidence that she does exist or did at one time.

Ps. Is this a school project??? I hope you're not trying to cheat.... innocent.gif
draconic chronicler
QUOTE(n00b1shm4n @ Feb 5 2007, 08:02 PM) [snapback]1531187[/snapback]
Hey all i have a project due on nessy and i need yallz help, What are your views on nessy Real / Fake
and what is nessy.....elephant,eel, dino . and anything else about nessy you know........
THANKS!!!!!!!!!! BIG HELP IF POSTED SOON LOL !!!!!!!! TY


Nessie is a Heavenly Seraph, also called a dragon (in the original St. Columba account), and a Ketos in the classical world. These creatures bear a superficial resemblence to the purely aquatic Plesiosaur, with a similar long neck, though the Ketos actually has wings and clawed feet. This accounts for the several reports of the creature crossing roads and basking on the shore. And also why some sonor scans indicate there is no large creatures in the water. You can see many depictions of Ketos in Greco Roman Art, and particularly Christian art where the Ketos is the creature sent by God to swallow Jonah, and other humans in lesser known accounts. A chapter of my upcoming book is devoted to "Nessie" in particular, though the entire work is an in depth study of these creatures. It will be out this year and include many ancient depiections of these creatures.
XSAS
QUOTE(n00b1shm4n @ Feb 6 2007, 02:02 AM) [snapback]1531187[/snapback]
Hey all i have a project due on nessy and i need yallz help, What are your views on nessy Real / Fake
and what is nessy.....elephant,eel, dino . and anything else about nessy you know........
THANKS!!!!!!!!!! BIG HELP IF POSTED SOON LOL !!!!!!!! TY


Welcome to UM...

You should try the search facility at the foot of the page I am sure that would get the results your are looking for? However to get you started here are a few links to some old threads, there should be enough members opinions here to help you:

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Atheist God
QUOTE(n00b1shm4n @ Feb 5 2007, 08:02 PM) [snapback]1531187[/snapback]
Hey all i have a project due on nessy and i need yallz help, What are your views on nessy Real / Fake
and what is nessy.....elephant,eel, dino . and anything else about nessy you know........
THANKS!!!!!!!!!! BIG HELP IF POSTED SOON LOL !!!!!!!! TY


Nessy has been scientifically debunked....

A creature the size of Nessy could not live in that water due to the lack of food. This lack of food is caused the high alkaloid content of the loch resulting in minimal animal life as well as plants. This on top of the fact that everything from sonar to various other methods of seeing underneath the water reveals nothing as well.

Aside from sightings which can be explained away although many do not except this there is nothing to support it's existence. Infact study of the loch as I said above has revealed that there would'nt be enough food because the water is toxic.

It is a scientific near impossibility that such a creature lives in the loch. Everything works again'st it's existence as opposed to towards it, logically I must conclude that this creature is non-existent and that it's sightings are likely misinterpretations of logs and waves etc. Also hoaxing as well to keep tourists coming to try and catch a glimpse of the sea monster.
itsnotoutthere
QUOTE(GanjaGuru @ Feb 6 2007, 07:29 PM) [snapback]1532059[/snapback]
Nessy has been scientifically debunked....

A creature the size of Nessy could not live in that water due to the lack of food. This lack of food is caused the high alkaloid content of the loch resulting in minimal animal life as well as plants. This on top of the fact that everything from sonar to various other methods of seeing underneath the water reveals nothing as well.

Aside from sightings which can be explained away although many do not except this there is nothing to support it's existence. Infact study of the loch as I said above has revealed that there would'nt be enough food because the water is toxic.

It is a scientific near impossibility that such a creature lives in the loch. Everything works again'st it's existence as opposed to towards it, logically I must conclude that this creature is non-existent and that it's sightings are likely misinterpretations of logs and waves etc. Also hoaxing as well to keep tourists coming to try and catch a glimpse of the sea monster.


All true, & also i remember a marine biologist pointing out that for a creature to survive from prehistoric times untill now would necessitate there being hundreds if not thousands of these to prolong the species to modern day. His exact words were ' for a creature like this to survive to present day would require them in numbers so that you would see them every day & possibly hand feed them from the shore, they would be commonplace'
draconic chronicler
QUOTE(GanjaGuru @ Feb 6 2007, 01:29 PM) [snapback]1532059[/snapback]
Nessy has been scientifically debunked....

A creature the size of Nessy could not live in that water due to the lack of food. This lack of food is caused the high alkaloid content of the loch resulting in minimal animal life as well as plants. This on top of the fact that everything from sonar to various other methods of seeing underneath the water reveals nothing as well.

Aside from sightings which can be explained away although many do not except this there is nothing to support it's existence. Infact study of the loch as I said above has revealed that there would'nt be enough food because the water is toxic.

It is a scientific near impossibility that such a creature lives in the loch. Everything works again'st it's existence as opposed to towards it, logically I must conclude that this creature is non-existent and that it's sightings are likely misinterpretations of logs and waves etc. Also hoaxing as well to keep tourists coming to try and catch a glimpse of the sea monster.


That shows how little you know about this. In some Science Channel type program, actual fishermen at Loch Ness stated there was plenty of fish, and a film crew went out on a night dive, and found the Loch literally teeming with eels, that are apparently nocturnal, and rarely seen in the day. And they believed the creature was real.

Scientists can be as big a liar as anyone else to prove their point, and in this program the scientists were proven to be liars, or at least, not very good scientists. Other scientists believe the creature is real, at Loch Ness and other places.

I would agree that Nessie cannot be a plesiosaur of a trapped population since the Cretaceous. The lake isn't nearly old enough. But long necked sea creatures called Ketos were reported for thousands of years, and when drawn, look a lot like "nessie". And the creatures have been seen out of the water as well, negating the sonor scans. These early sightings came at a time when nobody was trying to make a tourist attraction, and consistent with creatures reported in the region back to the ancient Celts. In the original account of St. Columba, the creature was specifically referred to as a "dragon", which was widely believed to be a creature capable of walking on land, and in many cases, flying as well.
Mattshark
QUOTE(draconic chronicler @ Feb 7 2007, 11:57 AM) [snapback]1533097[/snapback]
That shows how little you know about this. In some Science Channel type program, actual fishermen at Loch Ness stated there was plenty of fish, and a film crew went out on a night dive, and found the Loch literally teeming with eels, that are apparently nocturnal, and rarely seen in the day. And they believed the creature was real.

Scientists can be as big a liar as anyone else to prove their point, and in this program the scientists were proven to be liars, or at least, not very good scientists. Other scientists believe the creature is real, at Loch Ness and other places.

I would agree that Nessie cannot be a plesiosaur of a trapped population since the Cretaceous. The lake isn't nearly old enough. But long necked sea creatures called Ketos were reported for thousands of years, and when drawn, look a lot like "nessie". And the creatures have been seen out of the water as well, negating the sonor scans. These early sightings came at a time when nobody was trying to make a tourist attraction, and consistent with creatures reported in the region back to the ancient Celts. In the original account of St. Columba, the creature was specifically referred to as a "dragon", which was widely believed to be a creature capable of walking on land, and in many cases, flying as well.

The Ketos where believed to be sent by Poseidon. They are mythological, not real. There is not a single shred of evidence of anything bigger than a seal living in Loch Ness. It is also the name a seamonster who is the daughter of Gaia and Pontus, these are not tales of fact, this is mythology.
No physical evidence = Does not exist.
No reptile wings could be sumerged ever, they are skin membrane and would fail.
I would like you to show a serious scientific report, from a zoologist, on there being a monster in Loch Ness, I do not know of one single zoologist who believes this and there is not one shred of credable evidence for its existance, if there was we would have physical evidence!
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