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LucidElement
Hey guys and gals, i was watching an interesting show on the history channel... "Digging For The Truth", anyways, i was just curious on how Carter found King Tut, was he just digging randonly and found the valley of kings?? or did he no the valley of kings was already there, then what exactly did he find besdies king tut?? somethin about a door way he opened up?? also, How did king tut die?? somethin found on th eback of his head.. anyways, please let me no thanks all!!
Aristocrates
I love watching that show, but I didn't watch that episode...or I might have before

The Valley of Kings was always known to be tombs for Egyptian pharohs, but Tut's tomb is the only one we've found so far that hasn't been robbed. Anyway, I think Tut's tomb was hidden under or behind another tomb and was overlooked by robbers. I believe the story goes is that carter found a hole in the and shined a light through and saw all the statues, gold, etc. He was told to wait for permission to enter but he broke regulations and busted in anyway. And at the risk of saying something very innacurate, I'll stop here.

I'm deff. not 100% sure on this though
Razer
QUOTE(Aristocrates @ Feb 6 2007, 03:49 AM) [snapback]1531278[/snapback]
And at the risk of saying something very innacurate, I'll stop here.


I wish more people around here were like that thumbsup.gif
Bosanchero
actually carter was working on the floor of tomb of Rameses VI when one of his workers dicovered a "STEP" after futher digging he discovered 12 stairs leading down....
to remain his find carter put the dirt back on the stairs covering them until he would speak with his sponsors who i belive was english lord named Carnavon or something similar...
after lord came to egypt digging continued all stairs were uncovered... and door was cleared... i belive i read somewhere that one of the seals was "Broken" but resealed ... after door was removed... they had to digg and clear a passageway 20-30 foot long and what suprised them was ANOTHER door Exaclly the same as first one... this door also was opened and resealed (robbers probeably)

behind this door was a room filled with statues... and other gold artifacts... oo and 2 more doors wink2.gif

few weeks later after all the gold was moved out (they did this so that it wouldt be demaged when the 2 doors were to come down original.gif
they found that one door was open and wasnt resealed... when they opened it all they found was MESS...

behind the last door they found a burial chamber original.gif and thats where our dear king tut lied original.gif

and thats where story gets wierrrrrrrddddd lol
it took them almost 2 years to come to the point where they can open the shrine... and when they opened it .. it contained 7 foot long WOODEN cofin... when they opened this coffin they found another smaller wooden cofin inside... and after they opened this one it revealed a third one, made entirely of gold. Carter and his team found over 150 items on the mummy made entirelly of gold original.gif
after autopsy was done on kings body they found that he was murdered o.O
oo and to continue on ... there was another door in buriall chamber which lead to ANOTHER treasury room



anyhow lol thats where the story ends... oo and carter himself never finished the book he was writing about the discovery....

this is what i was tought about the topic at hand.. i belive it 99% original.gif

nitro
I always thought it was kinda a waste of money to try and investigate who killed king tut so long ago. It dosent have any real relevance today. The discovery channel did a special only about his death onces afew years ago. I cant remember how they said he did but it involved him smashing his head on like a cheriot(sp).
durbadurba
Yeah, im pretty sure i saw that special, and i think he did smash his head on a chariot or chariot crash or something
Bosanchero
quiet hard to be certain of how he died due to the fact that during excavations his body was cut up in peaces so that all the gold could be saved mad.gif
Aristocrates
QUOTE(Razer @ Feb 6 2007, 01:16 AM) [snapback]1531354[/snapback]
I wish more people around here were like that thumbsup.gif


It's a shame, I know, lol

and didn't they all (the excavators) suposedly die a little while after they found the tomb? Or is this another story I'm thinking of? lol
nitro
Maybe they cut his body up im not sure but the fact is discovery channel did the documentary and thats what they said killed him. Wasnt much of a suprise how he died considering the huge hole in his skull dated back with forensic crap to be his death blow and not the work of robbers or careless excivators
bornagainuhmanduh
I recently heard from a friend that Tut's femur was broken and the theory is that he developed a horrible infection and possibly died from that. She (my friend) claimed that the hole in the skull was due to a different method of brain extraction for the mummification process. I'm not sure where she got this info though.
nitro
Im not sure about the hole in the head I mean they thought you went to the afterlife lookin like your body which is why they preserved it. I dont know about you all but I dont wana go to the afterlife and spend eternity with a hole in my head.
fantazum
QUOTE(nitro @ Feb 6 2007, 03:58 PM) [snapback]1531725[/snapback]
I always thought it was kinda a waste of money to try and investigate who killed king tut so long ago. It dosent have any real relevance today. The discovery channel did a special only about his death onces afew years ago. I cant remember how they said he did but it involved him smashing his head on like a cheriot(sp).


Inspector Mustafa Aziz of the Cairo police department said only very recently that a suspect has been arrested and is currently being questioned. Justice knows no limits!
Lt_Ripley
some say tut died as a result of an accident in part because of a problem he had with his neck and falling off a chariot. but most think this is a cover up story by those adults working with him who wanted power. Most think he still was murdered .



'After several relatively successful seasons working together, World War I brought a near halt to their work in Egypt. Yet, by the fall of 1917, Carter and his sponsor, Lord Carnarvon, began excavating in earnest in the Valley of the Kings.

Carter stated that there were several pieces of evidence - a faience cup, a piece of gold foil, and a cache of funerary items which all bore the name of Tutankhamun - already found that convinced him that the tomb of King Tut had not yet been found.1 Carter also believed that the locations of these items pointed to a specific area where they might find King Tutankhamun's tomb. Carter was determined to systematically search this area by excavating down to the bedrock.

Besides some ancient workmen's huts at the foot of the tomb of Rameses VI and 13 calcite jars at the entrance to the tomb of Merenptah, Carter did not have much to show after five years of excavating in the Valley of the Kings. Thus, Lord Carnarvon made the decision to stop the search. After a discussion with Carter, Carnarvon relented and agreed to one last season.

By November 1, 1922, Carter began his final season working in the Valley of the Kings by having his workers expose the workmen's huts at the base of the tomb of Rameses VI. After exposing and documenting the huts, Carter and his workmen began to excavate the ground beneath them.

By the fourth day of work, they had found something - a step that had been cut into the rock.
Uncertainty

Work feverishly continued on the afternoon of November 4th through the following morning. By late afternoon on November 5th, 12 stairs (leading downwards) were revealed; and in front of them, stood the upper portion of a blocked entrance. Carter searched the plastered door for a name but of the seals that could be read, he found only the impressions of the royal necropolis.'

it also seems tut's tomb was broken into approx 3 times -

'Now that the door was fully exposed, they also noticed that the upper left of the doorway had been broken through, presumably by tomb robbers, and resealed. The tomb was not intact; yet the fact that the tomb had been resealed showed that the tomb had not been emptied.

On the morning of November 25th, the sealed doorway was photographed and the seals noted. Then the door was removed. A passageway emerged from the darkness, filled to the top with limestone chips. Upon closer examination, Carter could tell that tomb robbers had dug a hole through the upper left section of the passageway (the hole had been refilled in antiquity with larger, darker rocks than used for the rest of the fill).

This meant that the tomb had probably been raided twice in antiquity. The first time was within a few years of the king's burial and before there was a sealed door and fill in the passageway (scattered objects were found under the fill). The second time, the robbers had to dig through the fill and could only escape with smaller items.

http://history1900s.about.com/od/1920s/a/kingtut.htm
Azalin
QUOTE(Aristocrates @ Feb 6 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]1532145[/snapback]
It's a shame, I know, lol

and didn't they all (the excavators) suposedly die a little while after they found the tomb? Or is this another story I'm thinking of? lol


The Pharoahs curse was a big hype at the time. When the doors were opened it's possible that the first people that entered the tomb could of been breathing in fumes from deadly fungus that had built up over many centuries in the tomb. Although 58 people who were present when the tomb and sarcophagus were opened, only eight died within a dozen years. Everyone lived quite happily besides Lord Carnarvon, who was bitten by a mosquito, which later got infected and killed him.
Purplos
I too have heard that the hole on the back of the head (or whatever) has been dismissed as not the cause of death.

I saw a very interesting PBS show about genetic testing in that family the other night. How Tut was married to his sister and there were actually 2 fetus mummies found in the area.

King Tut exhibit is in Philly until Sept. before it goes back to Egypt. I'm going. original.gif
rezna
I just saw the exhibit in Portland, it was amazing. It's not the King Tut exhibit, that was in LA which is a long way from where I live. Anyways, I just want to add that if you were watching the show last night they talked about all of this at length. Interesting how you missed that part. But the most important part of the show last night is that Zahi and others believe that King Tut died from a broken leg, on the thigh bone right above the knee. It was a clean and brutal break, when that happens it's very hard to take care of. They showed at that time the Egyptians would have put honey and moldy bread all over it (which is actually the same thing as covering it with penacilin), but if it was as brutal as it sounds, there was probably bone sticking out. And if Josh is right, he was being drug around by his horses while his leg is like this. It makes sense to me that he probably screwed it up so bad he was bleeding to death etc. It had to be a sudden death, which is why many believed it to be murder, but it seems to me that it was an accident. And I like the idea that he was gallivanting around on his chariot being all cocky, he was 19 anyway, and shooting his bow at stuff while he alone is working the chariot, the reigns tied around his waist. You hit one rock, the axle breaks, and boom you are on the ground being drug from reigns on horses running very fast, your leg is broken, and your in ancient egypt. I think that's a pretty darn good explanation. But we wont ever really know, I guess nothing in his tomb says anything about how he died. Isn't that weird? You would think something in there would be painted about how it happened, or something like that.
Bosanchero
i love the CURSE hype lol.... Lord Carnarvon was only one who died.. he got bit but a masguito.. and he started messing with the bitten spot to cause himself an infection and "death" as for 2 fetuses found around King Tut.. they were fetuses of his dead children ( supposebly he couldnt have kids)
LucidElement
so his is the only tomb that hasnt been robbed that we found so far?? why do you think that is.,,, and if there is kings buried in the valley why dont they search the whole valley?
Bosanchero
QUOTE(LucidElement @ Feb 9 2007, 07:45 AM) [snapback]1535757[/snapback]
so his is the only tomb that hasnt been robbed that we found so far?? why do you think that is.,,, and if there is kings buried in the valley why dont they search the whole valley?


it wasnt robbed (completly) because it was burried and blocked away by Rameses VI thomb (which is on top of the king tuts)

and please in future if u ask members their opinions do try to read them all because what i just said has already been 4 said times in this 2 page topic
OldTimeRadio
The Valley of the Tombs of the Kings was well-known before Howard Carter's 1922 discovery of Tut-Ankh-Amon's crypt. In fact, some of Carter's fellow-Egyptologists believed that the Valley had long-since been fully excavated, with nothing left to find.

By the way, the Valley isn't in some far remote desert location; it's just on the other side of the Nile from the major Egyptian city of Luxor. By Carter's day the site was already on the Luxor streetcar line. The main archaeologists involved lived in European-style downtown hotels and went to the movies at night.
Red_Mercury
King Tut was murdered (or is commonly believed) at the age of 9. From what I have heard, there is disagreements on how he died, but there as a blow to the head. It could have been by accident. For example, he loved chariot racing but always had to have someone with him to watch him because of a debilitating disease he inherited and tried to keep quiet. (His spine was fused so in order to turn his head, he had to turn his whole upper body). It is possible that while racing, he took a fatal fall off the chariot.
Another way he could have been killed was by the priest who wanted him power and felt he shouldn't be on the throne.
Azalin
QUOTE(Red_Mercury @ Feb 11 2007, 11:48 PM) [snapback]1539181[/snapback]
King Tut was murdered (or is commonly believed) at the age of 9. From what I have heard, there is disagreements on how he died, but there as a blow to the head. It could have been by accident. For example, he loved chariot racing but always had to have someone with him to watch him because of a debilitating disease he inherited and tried to keep quiet. (His spine was fused so in order to turn his head, he had to turn his whole upper body). It is possible that while racing, he took a fatal fall off the chariot.
Another way he could have been killed was by the priest who wanted him power and felt he shouldn't be on the throne.


Many theories exist about his death. However it was believed he was about 19 when he died. He rose to the throne at age 9.
jaylemurph
QUOTE(nitro @ Feb 6 2007, 10:58 AM) [snapback]1531725[/snapback]
I always thought it was kinda a waste of money to try and investigate who killed king tut so long ago. It dosent have any real relevance today. The discovery channel did a special only about his death onces afew years ago. I cant remember how they said he did but it involved him smashing his head on like a cheriot(sp).


Right. Because what good his historical knowledge, anyway? It all happened so long ago.



QUOTE(LucidElement @ Feb 9 2007, 02:45 AM) [snapback]1535757[/snapback]
so his is the only tomb that hasnt been robbed that we found so far?? why do you think that is.,,, and if there is kings buried in the valley why dont they search the whole valley?


Well, if you were poor and knew where some dead people stored 1,000s of pounds of gold, would you let them keep it? I wouldn't. And so far, the dead haven't complained...

--Jaylemurph
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