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E.B.E.
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The below photograph is described in the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal as a medium resolution image of AS17-137-20900 - The comment with the frame from The Apollo Digital Picture Library is as follows: Station 2. First frame of Gene's initial cross-Sun stereo of Boulder 1. This frame contains many artifacts. Of great interest is "whomever" appears to be standing next to 'Boulder 1' on the far right side of the frame. It is not a U.S. astronaut. It should be noted there are 10 frames presented in the "Boulder 1" sequence taken by Gene Cernan with an additional 6 frames taken by Harrison Schmitt. All photos are basically of this same side. No rear or backside views are listed. A straight-on frontal view of the 'Boulder' is never shown. As for the figure on the right- he just "disappears" in the succeeding frames. However, he may have left something behind. Note the gnomon in the foreground and the absence of boot prints. (According to the Apollo 17 Science Report the gray scale on the gnomon is 30 cm long. The color scale on the gnomon leg is 15 cm [5.9 inches]long. The upper portion of the gnomon rod is approximately 30.5 cm or 12 inches.)


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A side by side comparison of Apollo 17 astronaut Harrison Schmitt (The person who should be in the photo) and the unknown individual is made in the below image. (Presentation based on frames courtesy of NASA - cropping & labeling have been added.)


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et's daddy
this is some wild odd crap dude

i admit i dont know enough about photo-shopping or whatever its called to be able to tell if this is a real pic or not

i also dont know nearly enough about the astronauts on Apollo missions and their equipment to know why this ones outfit looks so much different then the other one

could it be someone from another country or could we have had 2 missions go to the moon at the same time ?.........i really have no idea, im just putting options out there off the top of my head
MID
QUOTE(E.B.E. @ Feb 7 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]1533190[/snapback]



Yes, I think they caught us on that one (God, how I wish this evidence never existed).
Geno made a mistake snapping that picture.
He inadvertently photographed an alien being, one of several that the crew encountered during their three days on the surface at Taurus Littrow.

In fact, a not very well known item relates to how Gene and Jack were able to guide their LM to a pinpoint landing on Apollo 17 by using the alien approach beacon, which eminated from their base on the northwestern edge of the Taurus Littrow valley. The flight controllers didn't have to even do anything during that lunar landing because the aliens took care of everything.

We tried to keep this very hush-hush, due to the potential of cultural shock and such things as that (upon arriving in lunar orbit, the ailens contacted the spacecraft on the S-band circuit and offered their help. It was quite a shock to everyone in mission control, and for a while, the crew just wanted to come home!), but apparently, someone failed to properly screen the photos, and for some incomprehensible reason, have allowed this photo to remain in the public domain for the past 35 years.


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Good Lord...

Yea, the person standing there was indeed of great interest...to everyone on the ground watching these guys do their thing.

It was Jack Schmitt, Dr. Jack Schmitt, a Geologist, the first scientist, and only other person on the Moon at that moment with Gene Cernan.
Oddly enough...he was also a U.S. Astronaut. I know that must seem strange.

By the way, the reason he seems to have 'just disappeared' in the suceeding frames is because he, as an astronaut on the surface of the moon, with a lot to do, tended to move around alot.

He walked out of the field of view of the camera. That fact may not satisfy the yearning for intrigue and conspiracy which tends to occupy people's minds these days, but it is a fact. People walk.

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MID
QUOTE(et @ Feb 7 2007, 09:11 AM) [snapback]1533204[/snapback]
this is some wild odd crap dude



The only wild thing about it are the contentions presented along with the photograph.

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i admit i dont know enough about photo-shopping or whatever its called to be able to tell if this is a real pic or not
Yes, it is a real picture. Here's what it actually looks like:

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i also dont know nearly enough about the astronauts on Apollo missions and their equipment to know why this ones outfit looks so much different then the other one


Thank you!
That puts things in a reasonable light.
I do know about it, however. As such:

The "outfit" doesn't look any different than the other one. It is the same outfit, in a slightly different configuration, in different lighting, from a different angle.

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could it be someone from another country or could we have had 2 missions go to the moon at the same time ?.........i really have no idea, im just putting options out there off the top of my head


Understood.
Answer: no, it could not be someone from another country. Also no, we did not have two missions go to the Moon at the same time. The photo was taken by Gene Cernan, Apollo 17 CDR, and that mystery guy is Jack Schmitt, Apollo 17 LMP, appearing in the right hand corner of the field of view.

It is that simple, and there is no mystery attached.
Lilly
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He walked out of the field of view of the camera. That fact may not satisfy the yearning for intrigue and conspiracy which tends to occupy people's minds these days, but it is a fact. People walk.

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I see, and you're expecting me to believe that "theory" in place of a really cool "alien on the moon" pix! linked-image
Exeter
QUOTE(MID @ Feb 7 2007, 07:22 AM) [snapback]1533234[/snapback]
Yes, I think they caught us on that one (God, how I wish this evidence never existed).


I knew it! The truth can finally be told! That was a great facade you put on there MID. Too bad the evidence had to make it all come crashing down. tongue.gif
MID
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I see, and you're expecting me to believe that "theory" in place of a really cool "alien on the moon" pix!
Well, really Lil, you know that the idea that people walk is only an hypothesis. It hasn't been empirically proved. That people believe that it's a scientifically established fact is merely a reflection of the liberal bias put forth by the mainstream media.

I think with all these revelations, I've been had.... tongue.gif

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I knew it! The truth can finally be told! That was a great facade you put on there MID. Too bad the evidence had to make it all come crashing down.


Exeter, I held onto that whole NASA facade as long as I could.
Alas, I can no longer keep it up. This evidence is simply too great and my charade cannot hold up against it. I think perhaps man-made global warming is beginning to have a decided effect on me. I'm weakening in the heat (yes, I know it's only about 10 degrees outside where I am, but that's just a winter anomaly)...too much carbon dioxide.

OK, the truth is that figure in the picture was actually a fellow named Eddie (for the life of me I can't remember his last name...we all called him "Clumsy Eddie").
Eddie was an understudy for Jack Schmitt, and on that particular day's shooting, he stood in for Jack because Jack was off in a huff talking with his agent about his contract and the fact that he wasn't getting enough screen time and that he didn't like the script changes that had been made (Jack was a real pain!).

The shooting had to go on, and so Eddie stood in. Unfortunately, Jack had his suit with him and Eddie had to go get something similar out of the wardrobe department at the Area 51 studio complex. It wasn't an exact match and thus, some eagle eye picked it out on this still from the movie. Eddie was clumsier than hell, and he fell down alot on the Moon set....you can see him in various films doing this . The producers thought it was funny to watch him stumble so they used him in spots where they thought a little comic relief was necessary, mostly in the Apollo 16 and 17 movies.


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Exeter
QUOTE(MID @ Feb 7 2007, 03:24 PM) [snapback]1533906[/snapback]
Exeter, I held onto that whole NASA facade as long as I could.
Alas, I can no longer keep it up. This evidence is simply too great and my charade cannot hold up against it. I think perhaps man-made global warming is beginning to have a decided effect on me. I'm weakening in the heat (yes, I know it's only about 10 degrees outside where I am, but that's just a winter anomaly)...too much carbon dioxide.

OK, the truth is that figure in the picture was actually a fellow named Eddie (for the life of me I can't remember his last name...we all called him "Clumsy Eddie").
Eddie was an understudy for Jack Schmitt, and on that particular day's shooting, he stood in for Jack because Jack was off in a huff talking with his agent about his contract and the fact that he wasn't getting enough screen time and that he didn't like the script changes that had been made (Jack was a real pain!).

The shooting had to go on, and so Eddie stood in. Unfortunately, Jack had his suit with him and Eddie had to go get something similar out of the wardrobe department at the Area 51 studio complex. It wasn't an exact match and thus, some eagle eye picked it out on this still from the movie. Eddie was clumsier than hell, and he fell down alot on the Moon set....you can see him in various films doing this . The producers thought it was funny to watch him stumble so they used him in spots where they thought a little comic relief was necessary, mostly in the Apollo 16 and 17 movies.
There, the truth is out.... w00t.gif


Priceless! grin2.gif thumbsup.gif

Now, if only the CTs had such a sense of humor. rolleyes.gif
boorite
Wow, them alien moon suits look just like ours.
Lilly
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Wow, them alien moon suits look just like ours.


To be completely accurate, there is a slight difference in the space suits; the CIA/NSA/FBI/NWO astronauts in black (aka AIBs) space suits are a bit different from the common garden variety ordinary astronauts space suits. This is what people are actually seeing in this photo.
boorite
Yes, I should have said that the secret moon suits differ only slightly from the public ones.

Edit: "The Secret Moon Suits" would be a good name for a rock band.
MID
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Yes, I should have said that the secret moon suits differ only slightly from the public ones.

Edit: "The Secret Moon Suits" would be a good name for a rock band.



I agree with the rock band name thing.
I'm surprized no one has assumed that one yet!

Lil is correct, the secret Moon suits do differ, albeit in subtle ways (as you hinted at) from the "public" models.

Firstly, they're slightly darker in overall hue (we just can't seem to get away from having a hint of black in everything).
But most importantly, there are subtle differences hidden in the visage of similar gear.

That "camera" on the chest is actually a neurologically disabling synaptic disengagment/re-assembly ray gun (Acronym: NDSDRARG).
It shoots out a neuro-active magic electron beam which actually severs synaptic connections and re-welds the neural net in specific patterns as established by the Re-Integration of Societal Perceptive Neurological Pathways Directive, issued by the NSA in 2000 (based upon Executive order 14 of the Bush administration, (q.v.)). It's actually a type of mental re-structuring device which allows the re-programming of people who have strayed from the NWO path into an objectionable societal paradigm (as defined by President Bush's executive Order No. 67, of 2004, entitled,

"Nasty People I'd like To Git Fixed, and How I'd Like To Do It, If Y'all can manage it.").

The other somewhat hidden feature is the OPS antenna, which was ostensibly for the communication of S-Band voice transmissions from the lunar surface.

What that actually is...believe it or not, is an inter-species translation device, which can translate alien language into English (and seven other languages of the human species(French, German, Russian, Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, and an Alaskan Tlingit dialect whose name I can't even attempt to pronounce). It was frequently used back in the latter 1960's and early 1970's to communicate with the myrad alien life forms that communicated to us during our failed efforts to land men on the Moon. They actually taught us, and directed us on how to fake it properly, and that could never have happened if not for the device contained in these "secret Moon suits."*


* We revere Dr. von Braun for his development of these suits and their attendant devices.
He actually received communications from the aliens during his visit to Antarctica in 1968. He was trying to gather Moon rocks so we'd have some samples to support our fakery of the failed Apollo project, when aliens contacted him to help with his deceptive efforts.



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aquatus1
If everyone is quite done...

I have been moderating this board for a while. There is a certain amount of lenience I will give to both sides. To hoax believers, I allow for their slight paranoia and excuse certain unfounded accusations made against skeptics. For skeptics, I will forgive a certain amount of jibes, given the harsh treatment they tend to receive. But there are limits to both.

In this particular case, the skeptics have had their fun, and need to stop now. No one is asking you to agree with the conspiracy theories, and no one is asking to stop countering them, however there comes a point when joking becomes mockery, and one of the things that will not be tolerated here is open disrespect of another persons beliefs.
MID
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If everyone is quite done...

I have been moderating this board for a while. There is a certain amount of lenience I will give to both sides. To hoax believers, I allow for their slight paranoia and excuse certain unfounded accusations made against skeptics. For skeptics, I will forgive a certain amount of jibes, given the harsh treatment they tend to receive. But there are limits to both.

In this particular case, the skeptics have had their fun, and need to stop now. No one is asking you to agree with the conspiracy theories, and no one is asking to stop countering them, however there comes a point when joking becomes mockery, and one of the things that will not be tolerated here is open disrespect of another persons beliefs.



Yes, aquatus, I think we've taken the humor aspect about as far as it should go right now.
It's about exhausted its limits, I agree.

I'm just trying to show you I have a sense of humor! I can't seem to shake that "crotchety" label you gave me a while back!!!

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