as for the Egyptian Theory lol don't know what to tell u on that one other than its a FACT that Plato portrayed Atlantis as War Loving People... and being that he also said that they took over West Europe and north western Africa idk they would be sharing anything with Egyptian lol

i guess what i am trying to tell u is this is a nice theory but with MANY MANY MANY flaws.. and even people who do believe in Atlantis would find it HARD to believe in this just makes No sense

good try though much much much better than M.A.D.

Ok. Didn't want to say anything stupid there, Bosanchero.

there is NOTHING stupid here lol we are theorizing ... just trying to point out or opinions on subject,, i am always more than glad to accept and investigate someone's theories.. and more than happy to give my opinions on them... i might be wrong i might be right but either way someone learns something and i am happy

P.S. No ones opinion is stupid... people with predetermined opinions .. now thats another story lol (not saying u are on of them of course)

DAMN DUDE nice map but as the qoute shows, YOU asked me the questions, so they arent MY theory, im just answering your questions so stop trying to make it out that IM saying this. see you arent getting your own point that you asked me and i answerd. you dont have to like my answers but dont ridicule them because you disagree. Its good you disagree but to go to the length to say Its MY theory when you presented it isnt right. NOW do u understand? If you wouldnt have asked the only thing would be my original post which by the way didnt say anythng about them attacking anyone. Your line of questioning led to that point because well, u need an answer to a question.

Also im not debating whether they are war like so another moot point except where i mention egypt cause well it fit with how they would have gotten from point a to point b (which is what you asked), and i was reading other excerpts where the sphinx is said to house documents pertaining to Atlantis so its still not MY theory just putting a few relative things together.

Thats why you are fun to talk to cause i too love learning new things ( i did not know atlanteans were considered Warbound, just thought they were great maritime people who were supposedly advanced, well i knew warlike to an extent they doomed themselves but not outwars)

a large question for you guys.

do ANY of you know anything about the classicist view on Plato's Timaeus?
i would like to put that in my paper.
maybe something along the lines of what they believe it really means?

i already know about what Aristotle said (the whole warning thing.)

but is there anything else?
i cant seem to find anything.

-thanks-
-Angie

Heres this from wiki, dont know if youre allowed to use wiki for you source but here it is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timaeus_(dialogue)

heres one from stanford university ( i think ) so its very credible
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/plato-timaeus/

a few extra sources:
http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topic...nd_critias.html
http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Plato/Timaeus/
http://www.hermetic.com/texts/plato/timaeus.html\

Hope these help

Ok.

This is a little off topic. But if there is some Atlantiean scrolls under The Sphinx. Then that just proves it was real one time.

it wont lol.... first of all even if they do find the scrolls i am pretty sure public wont know for a LONG TIME lol,,,
and even when the scrolls are translated ... city's name of course wont be Atlantis so skeptics will always argue that it was god knows what city



something that might get u guys happy lol

long time ago i have heard about Atlantis story being passed down to Plato by his father... who from what i remember was told the story by an old Egyptian priest .... (i cant give u ref. for this) and when i get of work i will look into it

Graham Hancock is a lying con man.

These structures had long been the subject of stories in the area, and they were uncovered recently (by the tsunami that struck the area,) probably to Hancock's dismay. See, they've been dated to around the 7th century AD.


A more recent reference would have shown that archaeologists are all over this one.


Only if Atlantis existed in the 7th century AD.

As a matter of fact, though, this could well tie in with the weird "theory" being promoted here by ZaGChavez. There actually is a "sunken continent" in the area he mentions as a possible location for Atlantis. The Indo-Australian plate drifted over a truly ancient subduction zone millions of years ago (a hundred million or so) and is being pulled down enough that most of it is today covered by the ocean. The ancient subduction zone is not active, it's just a place where the ocean bottom crust used to be sucked down under into the mantel. The oceanic plate is no longer being pulled under, but the downward momentum of former crustal material that is still sinking there causes an area of downward force behind it. Like an extremely slow-motion whirlpool, if you will. Eventually, tens or hundreds of millions of years from now, the Indo-Australian plate will finish drifting over the area and will being to re-emerge from the ocean.

As the name implies, India is part of the Indo-Australian plate. Mahabalipuram, being on the eastern side of India, is right on the edge of the advancing water. So, the "flood" of the former temples could have been caused by subduction. Could have happened fairly quickly too, I mean over a few hundred years.

Harte

rebuilding atlantis

http://www.linternaute.com/savoir/diaporam...lm-island.shtml

Hey ZAG, here's the book I was referring to.
ATLANTIS - Myth or Reality?, Murry Hope (Penquin Arkana Press)

http://thebravenewworldorder.blogspot.com/...c-mushroom.html


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/stargate/stargate08.htm

can we STOP just posting any site we run into while googling "Atlantis" ??? contribute to the conversation with your opinions than give the links that will further explain why ur opinions are what they are lol don't just post link and expect everyone to look through it for hours to find that one passage u actually wanted us to ses lol

Ahhhh.. Atlantis.. I've been studying and researching this for over a year now.. Plato and Edgar Cayce both have interesting "predictions" yet one seems to contradict the other..

One talks of an advanced civilization but the other talks about them living in mud huts and having an empire constructed of mud and twigs.. I've spoken to a few theorists over the year and a lot of them believe in the mud hut theory.

It was said that Atlantis constructed a super laser but it went wrong and wiped them out... I also read that the 3 main empires around that time were Egypt, Greece and Atlantis.. Atlantis tried to conquer both Greece and Egypt but Greece, knowing Atlantians were a sea fairing civilization, constructed and amassed an armarda of ships and came up behind them and the resulting battle wiped Atlantis out..

There are many theories and i have studied most and i have some of my own but we wont go there lol.

said by whom? can you supply a link?

they lived in HUTS and managed to build very very very advanced laser ???
that wiped them out ??? make much sense to Anyone ???

or second idea... an army COMPLETELY whipped out an island ??? yet forgot to take any of their technology ???


and for the second part of the idea i be more than happy to inform u that Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't enough to completely wipe out everything on islands lol... Prefectural Industrial Promotional Hall was very close to ground zero of the explosion yet it did not collapse... so how do you explain Greeks with bows and arrows completely destroying an CIVILIZATION ???



lets also stay reminded that if we are talking about Atlantis we have CAN NOT say things like "Plato didn't mean this, this was a metaphor and so on" for the same reasoning can be use to discredit the fact that city ever existed.


so stick with the original story and keep popping out the ideas

I Gotta admit Bos, you are on top of things lol.

Wallfly thanks ill definatly look it up.

I think the laser idea came from people supplying a myth to the myth of atlantis, ive heard they had lasers too but have no idea where it originated. I might look up this and see what i can find, Bos you know anything of this?

oo thank you
all i can say is i have reread every theory out there and have yet to find one that can't be easily discredited... i am hoping that one day i actually might run into one that will make sense... thats why i LIKE to hear ideas... and tell people why they don't make sense to me or ask for people's opinions on the questions and mistakes i happen to find with their ideas....

critas then listen,sucrates,to a tale which,through strange is certanly true,haveing been attested by solon

thereupon one of the preists,who was of a very great age,said ;a solon ,solon you hellines are never anything but children, and there is not an old man among you.

solon in turn asked him what he meant.

i mean to say, he replied, that in mind you are all young; there is no old opinion handed down among you be-ancient tradition,nor any science which is

hoary with age, and i will tell you why,.

there has been and will be again, many destruction of mankind arising out of many causes.

the greatest have been brought by the agencies of fire and water,abd other lesser ones by innumerable other causes,

there is a story,which even you have preserved that once upon a time pathon the of helios, haveing yoked the steeds in his fathers chariot, because he

was not able to drive them in the path of his father,burnt up all that was upon the earth,and was himself destroyed by a thunderbolt.

now this has the form of a myth but really signifes a declination of the bodies moving in heavens around the earth,and a great conflagration of things

upon the earth,which recurs after long intervals;at such time,those who live upon the mts and in the dry and lofty places are more liable to desrustion

than those who dwell by rivers or on the seashore.

and from this calaimets the nile,who is our never-failing saviour,delivers and preserves us.

by what the aged preist said i thinks i'm on the right path.

No doubt everyone here has heard of the civilisation we now call the Minoan?

also most people accept that the Maecenean greeks were Ionian like those of Athens?

these Ionian....or also called by homer and others Achaeans....went to crete and kicked butt. bringing down and subjecting a maritime empire (or confederation)

i think the egyptians called them Eke'hewasha...or something similar...havent got my notes handy.
they correctly linked them to the Athenians of Solon's day.
the story came to plato via timaeus.

also factor in the destruction of santorini, and some palace cities in crete.

in fact dwell on the consideration of the palace/city society of minoan crete....and plato's ideals of society in the Republic, and also what is referred to in the stories of atlantis.

I know its boring and not as fun as spaceships, lazers, immortals and healing crystals, and ancient nuclear war....

Add to all of this the recent (at least to plato) destruction of Heliki.

Think then of the political climate at athens at the time of plato's writing....and what this meant to the delian league...

can anybody tell me what plato was trying to say?

The allusions would not have been lost on his audience as they are on us, far removed in time.


sorry to be boring...

atlantis is a load of bullcookies.anyone who cares to research the subject will realise that plato was using a small amount of real history to teach a moral lesson. the real history was a culture on the island of thera that ended in a huge volcanic eruption,but believe whatever you want.