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Mad Hatter
*Before I get harassed, I looked and found no recent topics on this subject to debate on.*

"The Bermuda Triangle, also known as the Devil's Triangle, is a geographical area in the Atlantic Ocean which has been made infamous for the many people, aircraft, and surface vessels said to have disappeared within its bounds. Many of these disappearances involve a level of mystery which are often popularly explained by a variety of theories beyond human error or acts of nature, often involving the paranormal, a suspension of the laws of physics, or activity by extraterrestrial beings. An abundance of documentation for most incidents suggests that the Bermuda Triangle is a mere legend built upon half-truths and tall tales from individuals who sailed the area, then later embellished on by professional writers."

-I believe it is a real phenomena. I don't know the extent of it, but I know something is up.

Popular Theories of Dissapearances:
1. Methane hydrates
2. Compass variations
3. Hurricanes
4. Gulf stream

Acts of Man:
1. Human error
2. Deliberate acts of destruction

Unexplained Theories:
An explanation for some of the disappearances pinned the blame on left-over technology from Atlantis, for example, the activation of a still-operable death ray. Reputed psychic Edgar Cayce claimed that evidence for Atlantis would be discovered just off Bimini in 1968. New Agers view the Bimini Road as either a road, wall, or pier meant to service ships bound for Atlantis from Central and South America, or a breakwater built to protect fishing boats. Dr. Greg Little, who has well-established connections to Edgar Cayce, did a study and on-site investigation of the Bimini Road; he claimed that the road could not possibly be a natural formation, and could be the work of an early civilization. Skeptics, however, view the Bimini wall a natural formation, pointing out its probable natural origin. Theorists claim extraterrestrials captured ships and planes, taking them beyond our solar system. This was given a boost when topics like ESP, telekinesis, clairvoyance, and the like flowered in the middle-to-late 1960s, and was used as storylines for popular films like Close Encounters of the Third Kind and The UFO Incident. The proponents of this theory state that the many ships and planes entered a time warp to a different time, or dimension on the other side. Usually, the ship or aircraft in the story enters this dimension by way of a cloud. This has been a popular subject in television episodes of Star Trek and The Twilight Zone. Charles Berlitz, grandson of a distinguished linguist and author of various additional books on anomalous phenomena, has kept in line with this extraordinary explanation, and attributed the losses in the Triangle to anomalous or unexplained forces. This explanation is not without foundation, as they are caused by deep-water earthquakes or far-away storms; one such rogue wave wrecked the cruiser USS Memphis (CA-10) off the Dominican Republic on August 29, 1916, killing 40 men.

The Triangle is also connected, although inaccurately, to the dissapearance of the Mary Celeste.

Although unsolved, it is an intriguing mystery. I think it's probable for the many accounts I outlined.

More Info.


rezna
The one thing I got out of the 2 hour season premeire of Digging for the Truth was that the bimini road is a natural phenomena, not a man made road. That show is great, more people should be watching it, actually it is the most popular discovery channel show right now which makes sense, but anyway.

On this particular episode, done this last summer, the weather was PERFECT for them to study the road. It is obvious to see that the formations of rock surrounding the bimini road are exactly the same as its formation. bimini road is natural, so it shouldnt be called a road, it should be called the bimini formation, or not even talked about at all!
Mad Hatter
QUOTE(rezna @ Feb 7 2007, 01:10 PM) [snapback]1533528[/snapback]
The one thing I got out of the 2 hour season premeire of Digging for the Truth was that the bimini road is a natural phenomena, not a man made road. That show is great, more people should be watching it, actually it is the most popular discovery channel show right now which makes sense, but anyway.

On this particular episode, done this last summer, the weather was PERFECT for them to study the road. It is obvious to see that the formations of rock surrounding the bimini road are exactly the same as its formation. bimini road is natural, so it shouldnt be called a road, it should be called the bimini formation, or not even talked about at all!


What does this have to do with the Bermuda Triangle?
rezna
Did you really just ask me that?

Your original post has this HUGE QUOTE in it ALL ABOUT BIMINI ROAD

QUOTE
An explanation for some of the disappearances pinned the blame on left-over technology from Atlantis, for example, the activation of a still-operable death ray. Reputed psychic Edgar Cayce claimed that evidence for Atlantis would be discovered just off Bimini in 1968. New Agers view the Bimini Road as either a road, wall, or pier meant to service ships bound for Atlantis from Central and South America, or a breakwater built to protect fishing boats. Dr. Greg Little, who has well-established connections to Edgar Cayce, did a study and on-site investigation of the Bimini Road; he claimed that the road could not possibly be a natural formation, and could be the work of an early civilization. Skeptics, however, view the Bimini wall a natural formation, pointing out its probable natural origin.
Mad Hatter
QUOTE(rezna @ Feb 7 2007, 01:42 PM) [snapback]1533586[/snapback]
Did you really just ask me that?

Your original post has this HUGE QUOTE in it ALL ABOUT BIMINI ROAD


innocent.gif Oops!!
Ichigo
I heard where the Bermuda Triangle is is a hot spot for tourists, how come planes and ships dont dissapear anymore?
Mattshark
QUOTE(Ichigo @ Feb 7 2007, 06:46 PM) [snapback]1533595[/snapback]
I heard where the Bermuda Triangle is is a hot spot for tourists, how come planes and ships dont dissapear anymore?

Because the whole thing is a myth arising out of a navy training flight that went wrong due to the lead pilots error and his mum complaining when he was given the blame (because he did not follow procedure and decide his compass was wrong and gott all the men in his squad killed) so to shut her up they put unknown disapearance and the myth has grown up out of that. If there was anything unusuall I'm sure Miami International Airport would know as every flight from Europe passes throught he triangle on its way there (as well as every flight to Bermuda). The lack of extra insurance and the lack of anything actually unusual occuring there indicate that the area is no more odd than anywhere else. The apperance of the Sargasso sea may have also help to make the myth. The sea is one seperated from the gulf stream and the water is very clear and calm and the only life is in float dying kelp.
In short the Bermuda triangle is just a myth.
alex_the_pirate
I don't think that the bermuda triangle is just a myth. It's got too many dissapearences and deaths on record. If you would like, you could check out this website, http://www.bermuda-triangle.org which should explain some theories and has a huge list of almost everything that has been lost in the Bermuda Triangle.

This should answer most questions about the bermuda triangle.
fantazum
QUOTE(Cynocephalus @ Feb 7 2007, 05:12 PM) [snapback]1533455[/snapback]
*Before I get harassed, I looked and found no recent topics on this subject to debate on.*

"The Bermuda Triangle, also known as the Devil's Triangle, is a geographical area in the Atlantic Ocean which has been made infamous for the many people, aircraft, and surface vessels said to have disappeared within its bounds. Many of these disappearances involve a level of mystery which are often popularly explained by a variety of theories beyond human error or acts of nature, often involving the paranormal, a suspension of the laws of physics, or activity by extraterrestrial beings. An abundance of documentation for most incidents suggests that the Bermuda Triangle is a mere legend built upon half-truths and tall tales from individuals who sailed the area, then later embellished on by professional writers."

-I believe it is a real phenomena. I don't know the extent of it, but I know something is up.

Popular Theories of Dissapearances:
1. Methane hydrates
2. Compass variations
3. Hurricanes
4. Gulf stream

Acts of Man:
1. Human error
2. Deliberate acts of destruction

Unexplained Theories:
An explanation for some of the disappearances pinned the blame on left-over technology from Atlantis, for example, the activation of a still-operable death ray. Reputed psychic Edgar Cayce claimed that evidence for Atlantis would be discovered just off Bimini in 1968. New Agers view the Bimini Road as either a road, wall, or pier meant to service ships bound for Atlantis from Central and South America, or a breakwater built to protect fishing boats. Dr. Greg Little, who has well-established connections to Edgar Cayce, did a study and on-site investigation of the Bimini Road; he claimed that the road could not possibly be a natural formation, and could be the work of an early civilization. Skeptics, however, view the Bimini wall a natural formation, pointing out its probable natural origin. Theorists claim extraterrestrials captured ships and planes, taking them beyond our solar system. This was given a boost when topics like ESP, telekinesis, clairvoyance, and the like flowered in the middle-to-late 1960s, and was used as storylines for popular films like Close Encounters of the Third Kind and The UFO Incident. The proponents of this theory state that the many ships and planes entered a time warp to a different time, or dimension on the other side. Usually, the ship or aircraft in the story enters this dimension by way of a cloud. This has been a popular subject in television episodes of Star Trek and The Twilight Zone. Charles Berlitz, grandson of a distinguished linguist and author of various additional books on anomalous phenomena, has kept in line with this extraordinary explanation, and attributed the losses in the Triangle to anomalous or unexplained forces. This explanation is not without foundation, as they are caused by deep-water earthquakes or far-away storms; one such rogue wave wrecked the cruiser USS Memphis (CA-10) off the Dominican Republic on August 29, 1916, killing 40 men.

The Triangle is also connected, although inaccurately, to the dissapearance of the Mary Celeste.

Although unsolved, it is an intriguing mystery. I think it's probable for the many accounts I outlined.

More Info.


I have actually sailed thru that region of sea known as the "bermuda Triangle" and can attest to its pecularities. It is an area of sea subject to sudden and violent changes in temper.Storms appear from nowhere and there are a variety of phenomena that are quite unique to it, for example; sudden upwellings of fresh water that will instantly alter the displacement of a vessel causing it to immediately sink . there are also recorded instances of very odd electrical phenomena like violent lightning strikes on vessels and air vortexes. Its a weird place.
666XZ
QUOTE(Cynocephalus @ Feb 7 2007, 05:12 PM) [snapback]1533455[/snapback]
*Before I get harassed, I looked and found no recent topics on this subject to debate on.*

"The Bermuda Triangle, also known as the Devil's Triangle, is a geographical area in the Atlantic Ocean which has been made infamous for the many people, aircraft, and surface vessels said to have disappeared within its bounds. Many of these disappearances involve a level of mystery which are often popularly explained by a variety of theories beyond human error or acts of nature, often involving the paranormal, a suspension of the laws of physics, or activity by extraterrestrial beings. An abundance of documentation for most incidents suggests that the Bermuda Triangle is a mere legend built upon half-truths and tall tales from individuals who sailed the area, then later embellished on by professional writers."

-I believe it is a real phenomena. I don't know the extent of it, but I know something is up.

Popular Theories of Dissapearances:
1. Methane hydrates
2. Compass variations
3. Hurricanes
4. Gulf stream

Acts of Man:
1. Human error
2. Deliberate acts of destruction

Unexplained Theories:
An explanation for some of the disappearances pinned the blame on left-over technology from Atlantis, for example, the activation of a still-operable death ray. Reputed psychic Edgar Cayce claimed that evidence for Atlantis would be discovered just off Bimini in 1968. New Agers view the Bimini Road as either a road, wall, or pier meant to service ships bound for Atlantis from Central and South America, or a breakwater built to protect fishing boats. Dr. Greg Little, who has well-established connections to Edgar Cayce, did a study and on-site investigation of the Bimini Road; he claimed that the road could not possibly be a natural formation, and could be the work of an early civilization. Skeptics, however, view the Bimini wall a natural formation, pointing out its probable natural origin. Theorists claim extraterrestrials captured ships and planes, taking them beyond our solar system. This was given a boost when topics like ESP, telekinesis, clairvoyance, and the like flowered in the middle-to-late 1960s, and was used as storylines for popular films like Close Encounters of the Third Kind and The UFO Incident. The proponents of this theory state that the many ships and planes entered a time warp to a different time, or dimension on the other side. Usually, the ship or aircraft in the story enters this dimension by way of a cloud. This has been a popular subject in television episodes of Star Trek and The Twilight Zone. Charles Berlitz, grandson of a distinguished linguist and author of various additional books on anomalous phenomena, has kept in line with this extraordinary explanation, and attributed the losses in the Triangle to anomalous or unexplained forces. This explanation is not without foundation, as they are caused by deep-water earthquakes or far-away storms; one such rogue wave wrecked the cruiser USS Memphis (CA-10) off the Dominican Republic on August 29, 1916, killing 40 men.

The Triangle is also connected, although inaccurately, to the dissapearance of the Mary Celeste.

Although unsolved, it is an intriguing mystery. I think it's probable for the many accounts I outlined.

More Info.


interesting
aquatus1
QUOTE(fantazum @ Feb 20 2007, 01:17 AM) [snapback]1550243[/snapback]
I have actually sailed thru that region of sea known as the "bermuda Triangle" and can attest to its pecularities. It is an area of sea subject to sudden and violent changes in temper.Storms appear from nowhere and there are a variety of phenomena that are quite unique to it, for example; sudden upwellings of fresh water that will instantly alter the displacement of a vessel causing it to immediately sink . there are also recorded instances of very odd electrical phenomena like violent lightning strikes on vessels and air vortexes. Its a weird place.


Wow, no kidding?

I worked there for two years on an ocean-going tug and never saw anything out of place.
popeye
We have heard a lot about the different side of the story of the Bermuda Triangle from television, radio, and Internet. The truth behind that still remains mysterious. In this article you can read some facts which many people don't know :
http://www.helium.com/tm/70919
Harte
QUOTE(fantazum @ Feb 19 2007, 07:17 PM) [snapback]1550243[/snapback]
I have actually sailed thru that region of sea known as the "bermuda Triangle" and can attest to its pecularities. It is an area of sea subject to sudden and violent changes in temper.Storms appear from nowhere and there are a variety of phenomena that are quite unique to it, for example; sudden upwellings of fresh water that will instantly alter the displacement of a vessel causing it to immediately sink.


Well, it's been a while fantazum, but please, can you tell us more about these "upwellings of fresh water" that will "immediately sink" a vessel?

Seems pretty darn bogus, if you ask me. No fresh water upwelling can sink a ship.

I lived in the triangle for nine years. The only weird thing that happened the entire time I was there was that I got married and had two kids.

Harte
eqgumby
QUOTE(popeye @ Mar 9 2007, 01:00 PM) [snapback]1575235[/snapback]
We have heard a lot about the different side of the story of the Bermuda Triangle from television, radio, and Internet. The truth behind that still remains mysterious. In this article you can read some facts which many people don't know :
http://www.helium.com/tm/70919

This link is no where near facts of any sort.
I cannot find any data that supports any more missing ships or planes in the area known as the Bermuda triangle than anywhere else, in particular if you take into account the quantity of ships that travel through that area. Add to that the amount of recreation, and you might expect there to be higher instances of ships or aircraft lost in this area.
Left Field
I haven't heard about "upwellings of fresh water" sinking ships there, but pockets of air that rise towards the surface can sink a ship. I've seen a few shows that have talked about it. One was discussing the Bermuda Triangle, and another was an episode of "Myth Busters" in which they tested this theory and proved it to be true.

I've also read about something recently discussing scientists figuring out where these pockets of air are most likely to pop up--and that with this new information, ships that sail the oceans have begun redoing their routes in order to avoid these areas.
Hawkmason
the truth was reveleaed some time ago

its methane gas that leaks from the sea bed floor

the bubbles are capable of sinking ships because the water becomes less boyant

planes crash because the methan rises and cause malfunctions on Plane engines


hope that helped =D
kiddglock
QUOTE(eqgumby @ Mar 9 2007, 08:16 PM) [snapback]1575316[/snapback]
This link is no where near facts of any sort.
I cannot find any data that supports any more missing ships or planes in the area known as the Bermuda triangle than anywhere else, in particular if you take into account the quantity of ships that travel through that area. Add to that the amount of recreation, and you might expect there to be higher instances of ships or aircraft lost in this area.


Strange enough, the answer to the "mystery" of the Bermuda Triangle may lie in statistics. I have seen articles which claim that statistically, there have been no more strange occurrences in the area of the Triangle than in any other similar sized area in the oceans. Strange things happen at sea. The question is do they happen significantly more often in the Triangle than elsewhere?
MissMelsWell
QUOTE(Left Field @ Mar 9 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]1575333[/snapback]
I haven't heard about "upwellings of fresh water" sinking ships there, but pockets of air that rise towards the surface can sink a ship. I've seen a few shows that have talked about it. One was discussing the Bermuda Triangle, and another was an episode of "Myth Busters" in which they tested this theory and proved it to be true.

I've also read about something recently discussing scientists figuring out where these pockets of air are most likely to pop up--and that with this new information, ships that sail the oceans have begun redoing their routes in order to avoid these areas.


I actually saw a Discovery Science Channel documentary today about just that. It was amazing. One group of researchers sank a small ski boat off of Key West with some manmade bubbles. It was amazing how easily they did that. Another group did a recreation a lab sinking a tanker with a venting of bubbles under the bow of their model ship.

Of course, I've been through the Triangle in planes and on sail boats with no problems, no strangeness... didn't even think twice about it. I've also been in the Bahama's during a tropical depression, that was truly more rain than Ive EVER seen... and that's saying a lot since I'm Seattle born and bred--the rain capital of the world! (ok, not really, but you know the old joke)! grin2.gif
MareikuraOAroha
QUOTE(Harte @ Mar 10 2007, 07:01 AM) [snapback]1575293[/snapback]
Well, it's been a while fantazum, but please, can you tell us more about these "upwellings of fresh water" that will "immediately sink" a vessel?

Seems pretty darn bogus, if you ask me. No fresh water upwelling can sink a ship.

I lived in the triangle for nine years. The only weird thing that happened the entire time I was there was that I got married and had two kids.

Harte


HAHAHA omg that is sooo funny....but in all seriousness I dont think anyone is going to be alble to officially say what is causing this until someone goes down toward the bottom of the burmuda or something lol but I read one of the links that someone has put on here about the mystery of the burmuda and seriously I think it is garbage I dont understand how someone could come out and say that they went to the bottom and it was so peaceful down there and people were living there and that is why they go missing cause no one wants to come back its stupid no offence
texasgirlheather
Sorry to disappoint yall, but The Bermuda Triangle is alive and well in San Antonio, Texas and it's called
Interstate 35.
Essan
There are less disappearances per vessel/aircraft in the 'Bermuda Triangle' than anywhere else on Earth ....... so the real mystery is why don't more people disappear? w00t.gif
Azalin
QUOTE(Harte @ Mar 9 2007, 08:01 PM) [snapback]1575293[/snapback]
Well, it's been a while fantazum, but please, can you tell us more about these "upwellings of fresh water" that will "immediately sink" a vessel?

Seems pretty darn bogus, if you ask me. No fresh water upwelling can sink a ship.

I lived in the triangle for nine years. The only weird thing that happened the entire time I was there was that I got married and had two kids.

Harte


I believe Fantazum is referring to underwater volcanoes. When they release, the heat/bubbles rise to the surface, causing the buoyancy of ships to dis-appear from the water, causing them to sink. Agreed, pretty darn bogus nonetheless.
JeremiahGateFan
QUOTE
the truth was reveleaed some time ago

its methane gas that leaks from the sea bed floor

the bubbles are capable of sinking ships because the water becomes less boyant

planes crash because the methan rises and cause malfunctions on Plane engines


hope that helped =D
That's doesn't explain the ships that have been abandoned or the wierdness of the incident with the airforce pilot.
kiddglock
QUOTE(MareikuraOAroha @ Mar 10 2007, 08:28 AM) [snapback]1576231[/snapback]
HAHAHA omg that is sooo funny....but in all seriousness I dont think anyone is going to be alble to officially say what is causing this until someone goes down toward the bottom of the burmuda or something lol but I read one of the links that someone has put on here about the mystery of the burmuda and seriously I think it is garbage I dont understand how someone could come out and say that they went to the bottom and it was so peaceful down there and people were living there and that is why they go missing cause no one wants to come back its stupid no offence


That's the thing, nobody is able to say anything officially because, the Bermuda Triangle has no greater incidences of strange happenings than any other body of water across the globe. Or at least it is not above average. Lots of weird things happen at sea-not just in this area.
itsnotoutthere
http://skepdic.com/bermuda.html
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