MIFPD -- Microwave-induced fusion propulsion drive. I am coming up with designs for a 10 -15 person interstella craft powered by two reactors, maybe one if I get lucky....Honestly, the reason I am persuing this above all else is due to the fact that air pollution is rising causing global warming to reach an all-time high, and I want to find another habital planet to live on...Ever since the age of factories and automobilies, the CO2 Content in the air is rising dramatically. It is scaring me that we are the lowest fuel efficient country in the world and we have advanced technology above all others... The Gov't is actually setting a standard that certain vehicles are limited to not how low fuel efficiency can go, but how high... The Gov't is actually promoting buisness instead of saving the world. Watch Al Gore's "An Inconvienent Truth" It is a very good movie. Atleast 2 hrs long.



Now the MIFPD is supposedly 300x stronger than a chemical rocket. I will use Ion drives for manuverability in space and a negitive mass generator to induce warp speed. Now the math I come up with, is that I need atleast 50 MEGAWATTS. A miniature sun is usually the core of the fusion reactor I'm going to use. Solar power alone inside the reactor will just be enough to power the avionics...I'm trying to find a way to harness the power directly by converting radiation into electricity. I got Gamma, Microwave, ultraviolet, Infrared, Radio, Light etc. Infrared might be just enough to fire the ion drive for a second or two. Gamma and Microwave is the one I need to power the drives since its the most in frequency. And the drives source for thrust is Microwaves.
Microwaves are supposed to superheat the plasma and exit at very high velocities due to a superstrong electro magnet at the end.

I'm trying to reduce weight by removing the turbine section.


Too farfetched of an idea to grasp on? If any of you science wizzes can help me figure this power problem out without the use of a turbine, I'd be one happy fella. If you can't I'll definitly find the answer..............It'll just take longer... I'm sure NASA wants a craft like this, and If I can create it, I'll be one millionaire or billionaire, but that won't matter because where I plan to go, I ain't comin back, unless I develop some kind interstella navigation system.


It will happen. The technology can definitly be created, it's the brains behind the creations that matters most. Listen, most great inventions were once thought impossibilities. I'm pretty sure I can crack this one. Even if I don't use it to travel to other systems......It'll still be one hell of an accomplishment.

If you want to make a difference make a viable hydrogen/electric car and then tell others how to do it.

Also a little bit of quick research via google on MIFPD shows me that even with 2 reactors of this type the power generated is no where near the power needed for interstellar travel.



There is no such thing as a negative mass generator (anti-gravity) yet. Your math is also flawed and Heres why...

Warp drive is entirely theoretical and not a form of propulsion persay. Warp drive essentially warps the entire universe thus requiring the total energy of the universe to work. You have to be able to shrink the universe in front of you and expand it behind you, essentially re-shaping the entire universe. As for radiation conversion into electricity this has already been accomplished via solar panels which have become over 90% efficient.

Once you get to a habitable planet and cath an alien viral or bacterial infection that kills you, your right you won't be coming back. I'm sorry if I come off skeptical here but your plans for space travel just aren't feasible.



Have fun because it won't happen as you don't have access to everythng you need like Deuterium, anti gravity devices also have not been invented yet. It's great to dream but it's better to accomplish the dream you have that are realistic. What you propose is not only a break through in travel but other areas like aviation as well. Not only have you suggested the unfeasible warp drive but anti gravity as well, while I say best of luck to ya it is a near impossibility you will accomplish this.

Space is not empty. Even if you were to be able to travel at relativistic speeds (which I do not think you will have the power to achieve) how could your 'manoeuvrability thrusters' get you out of the path of a tiny speck of dust (let alone anything larger) in time before you impact it?

The 'shield' technology of Star Trek does not exist so this is not a feasible solution. At the present time I can only see long distance space travel being undertaken on a one-way, very sub-light basis and for that you require a ship the size of a small moon (the Death Star anyone?) for just a few hundred people. Ok, that might be a small exaggeration but it really isn't feasible given the technology we have today.

With all the other stuff GangaGuru mentioned it might sound like we're being killjoys (cheers to Onyxdx for reminding me of this word) but it's more that we're being realistic.

Actually NASA is already attempting to come up with ideas on Warp Drive. http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/research...p/ideachev.html


When I said radiation, I didn't mean light. I meant the rest. I know how to harness the light.

One of NASA's ideas for space propulsion is designing a solar radiation mirror. Where radiation passes through one way and reflects on the other side.

And negitive mass isn't anti-gravity. It creates a hole in space. It's like surrounding yourself with air in water. I'm sure you can go really fast. And haven't you noticed that wormholes are filled with negitive mass?

Maybe I went overboard with warp drive though. Alright I just thought of a change in propulsion designs. I use directional nuclear salt-water rocket Then....Happy!? http://www.answers.com/topic/nuclear-thermal-rocket or http://www.answers.com/topic/nuclear-salt-water-rocket. And because its nuclear, you'd be sure it'll leave a crater glowing blue for a year or two, or more, with the added humungous wind gust produced by the thrust.

Or use conventional rockets for getting out of earth and the nuclear rockets for space travel.

Improvement on plans?

Well NASA has become a big joke over the last 20 years...
Have fun...



Haven't you noticed that wormholes are only theoretical and no one knows if they even exist. Fact is negative mass too is nothing more then theoretical and know one knows if it exists.


Unfortunatly you would never be able to aquire the materials necissary as a civilian to build a nuclear powered rocket. I am not sure if you are aware how hard it is to get plutonium or uranium but it ain't going to happen.


Firstly you haven't designed anything just stole from others work on advanced propulsion systems.

As for the method described above it has been done already to get nuclear vessels into space.

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why it wont work-
first, fusion engines get hotter than tens of thousands of degrees C, so good luck finding a metal for your reactor. second, something as small as an atom will destroy you if you actually move to warp speed. and how exactly will you stop solar radiation from killing you in interstellar space? and when you get there, how are you going to build a suitable colony, get water, and have renewable oxygen resources? and how do you plan to land on this planet? heat tiles from shuttles arent available to the public(i don't think)

what you need to do-
first, go to mars. its closest. second,remember that you only need to get up to a speed. since space has no friction you only need to fire the engines to hit a speed, then you need an engine in the front when you want to stop or slow down. also, an electro magnetic generator will stop harmful radiation.http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4175381.html. as for re-entry, what you can do is measure your hull temp. somehow, then just fire boosters to slow your descent when it starts getting too hot. it may take a while, but its closest. for oxygen, put a big dome down and some blue-green algae with a nuclear powered heater set to room temperature so they can live. for water, drill to the polar ice caps. for energy, yeah for nuclearness! when you need something, take your ship back to earth, dock at the space station, send a message down, get your money ready and buy things that way. also, build multiple domes to build into resort hotels for rich people, and only use electric cars. it'll be grand me boyo.

Everything on here is correct except the whole 'warp speed'..

Warp isn't actually a speed it is the warping of space and time around you. Essentially shrinking the distance in front of you and expanding it behind you.

Come to think of it. No one here thinks "outside the box". There are ways. I know that. May not be my way though. Take my first plans, not "designs", imagine if I had the the money, and the resources, the skill, and electronic power . Now would it be possible? Listen. I maybe a minor civilian, but no one starts at the top, they started where I am right now. You have to stop limiting people to their self-status.

What I meant on designs, I meant what I was going to build using other's invented technology! You people are so negitive. Ever hear of "potential"? You people are so pestimistic. You see the glass half empty. Do you know who thought of the fusion reactor? People like me who was told it was impossible and move on by countless amounts of people. Do you know what happened? It is currently being built right now. And considered a science marvel. So don't you tell me its impossible. Because the only thing I see that's impossible is your brain.

We are simply being realistic, it's great to say you want to but you admitted above that you can't. You need literally unlimited resources to accomplish what you want and unfortunatly that does not come with wishful thinking.



People who thought of fusion reactors are top of their game in physics and advanced propulsion technology. The only thing here I have seen that is impossible is you trying to tell us how it is when we clearly already know how it is. Why not try to accomplish something new as opposed to stealing from other peoples innovation.

For a nobody accomplishing what you want is nothing more then a fantasy this is fact either you accept this or you accept being unrealistic.

we're not trying to be negative, but GanjaGuru is right. and i think that what you mean is Cold Fusion. straight Fusion is more than likely never going to be a good power source because of the heat. and yes, your right, it is Essential that people do exactly what they think they should, and I am not trying to say you shouldn't go for it, and neither are other people. What we are trying to say is that you should be a little more logical in your approach. to build what your presuming would take hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars. if you are Really interested in this study and get a job at nasa, or try and find a job that has to do with propulsion research. (join the army as a physicist, because if any one does, they have some strange propulsion methods.) Just think things through. you are purposing you find
A ) Nuclear engine grade Uranium or Plutonium.
B ) You get the necessary computer parts and equipment required to Build a functional Spaceship
C ) You find somewhere to launch
D ) You can safely re-enter an alien planets atmosphere and NOT turn into a molten ball of metal
E ) You fly through Interstellar space and miraculously don't die from the radiation OR blow up due to cosmic dust.
F ) You can colonize that planet, or at least create a safe habitat for yourself
G ) You can find the money to make all this
H ) You can find a place where the government wont come in once you figure something out, kill you and take it.

This is a little bit dreamy. something MUCH more realistic would be to learn physics, join some space program, and really get involved in this field. Until you do, there simply isn't enough that you can find out. This might not mean much, but NEVER give up on this dream. things like this drove people into the pantheon of great minds, and I am CERTAIN that if you try, that's where you will end up.

you are the only person here "undersquiggle" who is open minded and not some critcizing freak. I don't know if this means anything, but I have a plasma globe. I little experiment I performed resulted in me being astonished. I took a 120 Volt lamp at 2 amps, size of a dime and place it on the globe with the wires facing towards the globe. IT LIT UP! And it remained glowing even when I took it off the globe. An inch away, you see a faint glow. I ain't bluffin because I covered the lamp with black paper and it was lit up. I wish I hadn't thrown out the light, because would have posted a picture... It's a possibility it could have been an LED. But it said stamped on the side 120 Volts at 2 Amps. But it doesn't matter, but I saw that thing lit up. Maybe its somethin with the plasma that accelerates electron flow. I don't know.

Listen, I realize my dream, you other guys think I haven't thought of the obstacles, but I have thought about them. Wether it'll take me a month to figure out, a year or 50 years, I will crack this one. As far as the space dust ruining the structural integrety of the ship, I will have to re-think that, and see if it is true that that myth is true. I have thought about using wings in space though. 1000 atoms are in a cubic centimeter in space, over 10 billion are in one cubic centimeter in our atmosphere. Having that said, THAT is impossible to my standards. I come to the conclusion that for that to happen, a craft with the size of a cessna wing would have to travel nearly 1,600,000,000 knots to get the aerodynamic effects of a cessna traveling at 150 knots. that's nearly 2 billion knots. And with the wing shaped like it is, The craft would be rising considerably fast. This is just the start. I know I have lots of planning and thinking to do ahead of time. This isn't a Wish either........This is a Goal.

My apologies for being a 'criticizing freak' again but I'd just like to point out the 'cold fusion' does not refer to the energy (heat) generated by the fusion reaction but to the assumption the fusion can happen at (more or less) room temperature. You would still have to cope with the thousands of degrees temperatures resultant from the fusion reaction.



Have you considered that the atomic density figure is correct and perhaps your calculations have a slight flaw?

Look, if you have a valid theory of being able to achieve what you state then that would be wonderful. Humanity needs to get off this ball of rock at some point and the person(s) who help achieve this are going to be very famous and, quite possibly, stunningly rich - so go for it. What people like GanjaGuru and myself are doing is supplying some constructive criticism which helps add perspective and may raise issues of which you were unaware.

NOw that would be very nice indeed. But we arent ready for that yet.