Would like to hear the comments of the membership on this..

Do you think that the disclosure of the truth of UFO's/ET's is emminent and nearby?

Nah.

In this day and age, aliens could walk right up to us, say "Hi, I'm FlippityFlopPlop from Borp-e-de-Borp that there is my space-ship and my three-headed wife Skan-kee-Ho, and I want to be your friend" and most normal people would wonder where the hidden camera's are.

Point is, even if there was something to disclose, most people wouldn't buy it and keep assuming conspiracy.

I would love nothing more then to have hard scientific evidence that there are ETI outthere, but to answer your question, no I dont.

I agree with hazzard. It would be great to find out that ET does exist.

On the other hand, there's the possibility that there may be nothing to disclose.

I would like to see the momentum that has been built up on this topic being taken seriously by some governments.
I'd like them to stop giving us silly explanations for things and do some serious (civilian) Research on the subject....with all files opened up for examination.

Then again ...perhaps no research is needed as they already know what the UFOs are....i'm certain that the military knows

Chile Announces UFOs Are For Real

"On 2nd April 1997, Chilean newspaper "La Cuarta" has the following headline: "UFO Sighting of Arica is Confirmed by La Direccion General de Aeronautic Civil." Chile did start to join the small number of countries who officially stated that the nature of UFOs is of intelligent driven flying machines."

http://www.ufologie.net/htm/offichili.htm

Interesting article skyeagle. Sadly, it has nothing to show that UFOs are extraterrestrial, only that the Chilean government is officially taking an interest in their recent UFO sightings. Still, maybe that's a step in the right direction.

Disclosure? Not sure, though there has been alot of alleged ufo sightings lately. Some say that there will be an increase in encounters prior to some kind of disclosure. Rense.com describes many such encounters. These are, for many reasons, strange days indeed.

People always say there will be increased ammounts of encounters and that will mean that something is up. I think one of the major flaws with the UFO/Conspiracy community is that they make far too many assumptions and state things as fact.
"This will happen in the next 6 months."
"If A happens now, then B will happen in the next two years."

I think that if they stopped saying things like that the general public would be more inclined to believe.

I think there is more to that story as to why they think UFOs are ET-operated flying vehicles. The President of Brazil went public after investigations on the Tridade UFO photos were completed so I am sure the Chilean government knows more than what the media has already printed. Over recent years, more and more government officials around the world have been coming out into the open and stating that UFOs are those of ET and physical trace evidence has been revealed.

The Triangle "Belgium Craft" has been documented enough time - that there is more than a 75% probablity that it is Earth Based Technology.

Just do some internet research on this: A few years back there was a website that actually had some good photo's where they actually showed all the "signs" of it being Earth based. Now I do NOT know if that site is still up and running - this was back in 1999-2000. But there are still some good sites showing enough "probable cause" and "reason" for it being Earth based.

One site even noted that a lot - NO not all - showed probablity of it being a "Stealth/SPY" plane. Which would make a lot of since.

JJ -

Not likely at all, especially since the UFO exceeded performance characteristics of all aircraft flying today by far as noted by the Belgian military after scientific analysis of the data evidence.

The data evidence collected shows that it is impossible for any aircraft to mimic such drastic maneuvers and stay intact. In fact, such maneuvers would kill any human pilot yet the UFO continued to maneuver in ways that broke the radar lock-ons of the F-16s over and over again, which in itself suggest intelligence in its maneuvers.



The Belgian UFO could not have been a spyplane. We don't have spyplanes capable of such drastic performance capabilities, much less would we hover them over a large city of a friendly ally in full violation of its airspace. I have heard that the Belgian UFO was an F-117, which is ridicules if anyone knew anything about that aircraft. It can't hover nor is it a supersonic aircraft yet the Belgian UFO did those things on multiple occasions.

So I guess the chance of dialog on this is pretty much closed?? That you could not even accept the probability of this??

I've been hearing that 'disclosure is just around the corner' for the past 15-20 years, so no. I don't think so.

Didn't the French govt 1999 Cometa report conclude that UFO's are almost certainly real and most likely extraterrestrial?

I think what many people forget is that a truly useful spy plane will have the ability to spoof its location and it's maneuvers, not just hide it. "Hi, here I am! Oops, maybe not, now I'm all the way over here!"

That would sure make an aircraft appear to be doing some mighty fast maneuvering..............don't be gullible.

Not only that, but the Air Force's EOTS report of 1948, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH, came to that same conclusion, (ET) not to mention its 1952 Intelligence report on UFO maneuvers. Now, more government witnesses have come forward and testifying on UFO reality and I expect more to follow as well.

Actually, that is not the way it is done in the real world. The specifics of the data, as noted by the Belgian military, excluded all aircraft including stealth aircraft. After all, the radar contacts were quite solid and tracked via a multitude of dissimilar ground-based and airborne radar systems and what is the main purpose of stealth aircraft? in other words, the radar contacts were not indicative of any stealth aircraft and the craft, as noted by the Belgian military, was in Belgian airspace illegally.

European UFOlogist who've claimed the Belgian UFO was a secret stealth aircraft seemed to have overlooked what the purpose of stealth is all about yet this supposely secret aircraft had lights ablazing and was hovering in full view of ground observers and that was suppose to be a secret aircraft of ours? I'm scratching my head over that one!

So case in point:
The Belgian Military knows how to detect our Stealth Bomber?
They know the technology behind it??
They knew it existed before it was 'public knowledge'?

I might also add - that my son saw it here where we live and three independent of each other witnesses saw it land at Boeing in the middle of the night - I suppose there is an "alien base" under Boeing??

Jj -

I think what he's saying is, it showed up on conventional radar -- if that's stealth technology, then it isn't very good. Not much was known publically about the Stealth program when the Belgian wave occured, but the one thing that was publicly known was that the purpose of Stealth was to evade radar detection.

One theory that intrigues me is that the UFOs/ETs are actually humanoids from the future coming back in our time for whatever reason. Hence, the abductions could be for medical experimental reasons etc.

They understand the technology behind stealth but the radar contacts were not indicative of any stealth aircraft. That is yet another reason why the Belgian military dismissed aircraft such as the F-117 stealth fighter as responsible. The F-117 stealth fighter is not a supersonic aircraft nor can it hover much less maneuvered at right-angled at over 40Gs, yet that is exactly what the UFO was doing.



I wouldn't think so but Boeing has been experimenting in anti-gravity technology.

http://www.janes.com/aerospace/civil/news/...20729_1_n.shtml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2157975.stm

Highly doubtful for a new generation stealth aircraft. The B2 has the radar signiture of a bumble bee on radar. You'd think a nextgen spyplane that can hover silently (the F-117 and B2 are incredibly noisey) and pull more G's than any other known aircraft would exceed that spec, wouldn't you?

Also, highly doubtful that civilian radars would be able to track as easily as military/government radars.

I can more easily believe in alien visitation than our current level of technology has found a way to negate the G-forces on the pilots.

Here's a link to the Belgian Air Force report.
http://users.pandora.be/aura.oasis/BelgUFO.htm
They seem to rule out Planes,Balloons,UAVs etc.....you've got to read between the lines on this one.
It must be noted that this report has been criticised for not accurately recording all the sightings......but it's still the official report.
Bogey

Why would future humans capable of timetravel need to abduct a person to "figure them out", when one simple cell would do just fine. DNA you know!?

Just a thought.

There are so many theories as to what alien's and UFO's really are it's going to be hard to find a answer until they land and drop by for a visit...

Exactly

Some of the WILD speculation does no good at all and just continues to muddy the waters. Lets deal with what we know which is there are craft flying about in our skies and space that we dont have an explanation for.
I believe it's highly possible that some of these are ET but i couldnt pretend to know why they're here.
The sometimes crazy conjecture is completely unsubstantiated....lets leave all that to Cruise,Travolta and co

Or maybe they are time travelling men and women who come from a bleak future where man has been forced underground as the result of an viral outbreak which left animals untouched, but decimated the human race. They come to our time to mutilate cows and find a way to fight the outbreak and reclaim earth. Starring Bruce Willis...Rated R.

Disclosure of what? What exactly? And what levels of classification is the U.S. (who has their superpower for a reason) are we to throw open? Someone needs to discuss the issue of SECURITY, and think things through.

Disclosure is BUNK for the gullible. The U.S. does not bend to simplistic notions regarding their position in the world.

I'm with Hazzard on this...and IF it does happen, that they can let me borrow one of their smaller scout ships just for a friday & saturday night.



edit: Hazzard's earlier statement farther up the thread.

They are going to DISCLOSE: UFO's EXIST.

AP - Dateline .............
There was the long waited and much anticipated DISCLOSURE from the United States Government: We have come to realize that the People of this great Nation and people around the world: UFO's EXIST. We have looked at the evidence and see that just too many people are seeing these Flying Objects.
There was a brief Q & A.
Q:So "Sir" could you please tell us what these UFO's are??
A: Well I think the term UFO tells us exactly what they are: UN-identified Flying Objects. In that the people that have witnessed these objects were unable to identify them. Next Question -
Q: Are these Alien Flying Crafts?
A: We don't know, to be honest. We were not there when the person or persons saw them. By their reports they could easily of been, Planes, Balloons, Heliocopters, Blimps, Clouds, Venus, experiemental aircrafts and so on. Plus you are well aware, by just previewing the internet that there are 1,000's upon 1,000's upon 1,000's of hoaxes and scams being so called 'reported'.
Q: Are any of them ET's Crafts?
A: No, there is no evidence of this.
Q: Well then could you explain these 'bizzar crafts' that are reported?
A: There obviously the strong probablity that these were/are experimental aircrafts that both private and government agencies are working on. Beyond that there is nothing I can say, because I simply do not have the information.

Is that too far 'out there' - no not really.... Like my signature states: The truth is out there, it just might not be the truth you want to hear.

Since there is enough paper trail that we've been working on Zero Point Technology since 1920's - and the government is quick to 'take' technology and classify it, doesn't mean they are just sitting on it! Want a good book to read to see this case in point very well and clearly spelled out: THE HUNT FOR ZERO POINT. by Nick Cook. It seriously is a good read and fun.

Jj -

Q: Well then could you explain these 'bizzar crafts' that are reported?

A: There obviously the strong probablity that these were/are experimental aircrafts that both private and government agencies are working on. Beyond that there is nothing I can say, because I simply do not have the information.