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lost_shaman
QUOTE(Jjbreen @ Feb 12 2007, 07:41 PM) [snapback]1540796[/snapback]
ONE CASE IN POINT: THE STEALTH BOMBER....
Back when the Stealth Bomber was released - this plane simply was NOT suppose to exist, based on a lot of "experts", military, airforce pilots and other wise. Even other governments - this simply was NOT suppose to be possible.
YET....> IT WAS.


Umm... It was first noted in Germany during WWII that the Horten Flying wing was basically invisible to RADAR because of its shape.
eqgumby
I am SO bummed I missed out on this thread. I was other wise engaged here in UM.

By the way, I read the ENTIRE thread and about six of the witness videos.

I was pretty amazed at first, and impressed by the videos. Then I made the dreaded mistake.......I looked up a few things. Dang it!
Where are these people, and what has happened to the project? Their own website has no updates beyond 2004. There is no word that I can find on these people anywhere.

Keep in mind, if the government allowed them to access this info, telling the public about it IS a crime, and retired or not, they WILL lose their retirement pay, benefits, and any current jobs they may have that are with the government, or with any contractor that deals with the government. In addition, the government would not be required to take them to court Snozz. They would just be arrested, and that's the last you would hear about it. You simply cannot disclose classified information.

So where are these folks now? Any ideas?
leadbelly
Apparently, Greer planned to convene testimony if there was a presidential order to relax or manage the restrictions on those coming foward. Perhaps the testimony would have been behind closed doors.

Nonetheless, I watched one hour of the news conference, and nothing mentioned seemed restricted.

Perhaps it was all FOIA cleared, or cleaned up before the conference. I listened through George Filer, and then
Clifford Stone. Stone is living in confusion, talking about twelve "recovery" cases, and numerous alien bodies.

Nonetheless, all this worry about clearance seems to be much ado over nothing. The participants either relate personal experiences as radar techs, or as ex-officers waving FOIA documents around. There were two retired officers who mentioned their clearance levels, but the incidents they mentioned were standard UFO lore.

Some are interesting, but I fail to see the outlandish need to convene Congress for this. Unless it was an attempt to spout off about SDI- which, by the way, the Chi-coms are pursuing with idiotic zeal.

Frankly, Greer either chased an illusiory goal, or is lying about briefing the Heads of State and Pentagon brass he claims he did. This thing was organized, but lackluster, IMHO. So much so, that he could not have been disinforming or running a sting for any agency. It leads nowhere, except as an attempt to expose "free energy" technology- something Greer claims exists.


Jjbreen
QUOTE(leadbelly @ Feb 12 2007, 11:54 PM) [snapback]1541205[/snapback]
Apparently, Greer planned to convene testimony if there was a presidential order to relax or manage the restrictions on those coming foward. Perhaps the testimony would have been behind closed doors.

Nonetheless, I watched one hour of the news conference, and nothing mentioned seemed restricted.

Perhaps it was all FOIA cleared, or cleaned up before the conference. I listened through George Filer, and then
Clifford Stone. Stone is living in confusion, talking about twelve "recovery" cases, and numerous alien bodies.

Nonetheless, all this worry about clearance seems to be much ado over nothing. The participants either relate personal experiences as radar techs, or as ex-officers waving FOIA documents around. There were two retired officers who mentioned their clearance levels, but the incidents they mentioned were standard UFO lore.

Some are interesting, but I fail to see the outlandish need to convene Congress for this. Unless it was an attempt to spout off about SDI- which, by the way, the Chi-coms are pursuing with idiotic zeal.

Frankly, Greer either chased an illusiory goal, or is lying about briefing the Heads of State and Pentagon brass he claims he did. This thing was organized, but lackluster, IMHO. So much so, that he could not have been disinforming or running a sting for any agency. It leads nowhere, except as an attempt to expose "free energy" technology- something Greer claims exists.

Actually pretty much what I stated about Greer. He is re-hashing old hash. Since 1999 +/- to today - there is NOTHING new he is talking about - it is the same "chicken dinner" re-served w/different POV's.

The Top Secret Clearance stuff was to show flaws and concerns about the truthfulness of their claims. But if you actually DO LOOK at the claims - it's nothing 'News Worthy' - basically what it comes down too - $$$ For Talk - They'll tell you what you want to hear!

Jj -
Jjbreen
QUOTE(Jjbreen @ Feb 12 2007, 07:34 PM) [snapback]1540944[/snapback]
But PE & SB - I would like you both to explain to me how stuff can get out of Area 51 when the Stealth Bomber IS serious technology that A LOT of countries would LOVE, WANT and NEED to get their hands on.... yet there is a no chance in hell of this happening. Yet we think from this same Area (area) that some how ALIEN info is able to get out of there??

Please explain the logic and rational of this....


Ok - I will sumize that Please Explain and Snoozberry are choosing to not answer the above question?? Yes I am sort of pushing this, for a good reason. If it is accepted that, "Ok, this is a valid point that cannot be argued, intellegently." Then we have to address all "reports" that are given us as "coming from Area 51" - that they ALL are BOGUS and thus are taken out of the focal point equation. (??)

Yes?? -

No?? -

WHY??? - Yes please give an answer - ESPECIALLY if you say - NO -

Jj -
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