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SG7
You know that thing on that mountain that they say is Noah's ark? What if its any alien ship, What if it is the reason we are hear? It could of brought us to this plaint and that could of started the story was started. Now I'm Not say God had nothing to do with it, For all I Know God help us get to this plaint using a star ship like that. What do you think?

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airika
I personally believe that because the Turkish Government refuses to let archeologists explore what they believe to be Noah's ark....that it is in fact something that the Turkish Government may have put there....(ie nuclear weapons, a fall out shelter..etc.) Because they're not prohibiting anyone to explore what many feel may be "Noah's Ark"....I feel there's more to it.
Jjbreen
There is also the theory/speculation - that if this is indeed "Noah's Ark" that it would have NO small religious "Fall Out". Right now Noah's Ark is a "story". But if indeed it was found to be 'true' - well a lot of religious and religions would have a 'problem' on their hands.

It is suggested that they deny access - to avoid the 'chance' that this is 'indeed' the Ark. Which I think is pretty viable theory.

Jj -
Mattshark
The so called Arc in a fake. It has previously been examined.
The region is politically unstable however and this is why the Turkish government has restricted access.
Moro
QUOTE(Jjbreen @ Feb 11 2007, 04:30 PM) [snapback]1539008[/snapback]
There is also the theory/speculation - that if this is indeed "Noah's Ark" that it would have NO small religious "Fall Out". Right now Noah's Ark is a "story". But if indeed it was found to be 'true' - well a lot of religious and religions would have a 'problem' on their hands.

It is suggested that they deny access - to avoid the 'chance' that this is 'indeed' the Ark. Which I think is pretty viable theory.

Jj -

Yeah it's interesting to think how much trouble something like this could cause if it was found out to really exist!

As far as it being an alien starship just doesn't even seem right, Is there a story or something to suggest it may be an alien craft?

~Moro
Please Explain
Noah must be an Alien if the Ark is a spacecraft.
And even if that is a spacecraft, it wont fit all animals.
Not unless it was real big.
Mattshark
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Feb 12 2007, 01:09 AM) [snapback]1539270[/snapback]
Noah must be an Alien if the Ark is a spacecraft.
And even if that is a spacecraft, it wont fit all animals.
Not unless it was real big.

Yep, especially with all the bacteria it had to carry! Also two of a species would mean it would not be surviving very long, genetically it would be a disaster for every species.

The so called ark at mount Ararat has been shown by geologists to be a natural rock formation, not a boat.
Access is restricted there because of the area is a military zone and is close to the borders of the politically unstable Caucasus' nations and to the border of Iran and is also the Kurdish region of the country.
Snozzberry
Does anyone know the exact location of it? I can try launching an investigation of it using google earth.
jaylemurph
Well, at least this thread doesn't start another "was there a great flood?" debate.

And if -- and I say -- if it is an Ark, whose Ark would it be? Noah's, Utanpishtim's, Duecalion's, that Irish Queen's?

--Jaylemurph
Mattshark
QUOTE(Snozzberry @ Feb 12 2007, 01:38 AM) [snapback]1539304[/snapback]
Does anyone know the exact location of it? I can try launching an investigation of it using google earth.

Mount Ararat (renamed Mt Judi) Turkish border region with Azerbaijan and Iran. Already been studied and proven to a geological feature though. Only a secondary expidition was prevented due to political unrest in the region.
JimNasium
QUOTE(Jjbreen @ Feb 11 2007, 03:30 PM) [snapback]1539008[/snapback]
There is also the theory/speculation - that if this is indeed "Noah's Ark" that it would have NO small religious "Fall Out". Right now Noah's Ark is a "story". But if indeed it was found to be 'true' - well a lot of religious and religions would have a 'problem' on their hands.

It is suggested that they deny access - to avoid the 'chance' that this is 'indeed' the Ark. Which I think is pretty viable theory.

Jj -

Since Islam, Judaism and Christianity all acknowledge the story of the Ark and since the majority of Turks are Muslim I cannot see how this theory holds any water.
SG7
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Feb 11 2007, 07:09 PM) [snapback]1539270[/snapback]
Noah must be an Alien if the Ark is a spacecraft.
And even if that is a spacecraft, it wont fit all animals.
Not unless it was real big.

Know I saying it could of seeded this plaint with DNA form anther plaint. And we could be the descendant of the alien crow.
3rd rock resident alien
Adam and Eve are aliens. Noah's starship contains clones from Adam and Eve's planet. Their Alien worlds are at war at each other and the only way to guarantee its survival is to send Noah and colonize planet earth.
Mattshark
QUOTE(3rd rock resident alien @ Feb 12 2007, 03:01 AM) [snapback]1539397[/snapback]
Adam and Eve are aliens. Noah's starship contains clones from Adam and Eve's planet. Their Alien worlds are at war at each other and the only way to guarantee its survival is to send Noah and colonize planet earth.

2 people who had just 2 boys as offspring could not colonise the earth. Especially when one kills the other!
uth
QUOTE(Mattshark @ Feb 12 2007, 03:03 AM) [snapback]1539400[/snapback]
2 people who had just 2 boys as offspring could not colonise the earth. Especially when one kills the other!


Although I'm inclined not to believe the Noah's ark story was a literal event. It is extremely interesting the number of civilization that have a Great Flood story, and how similar the details are, even for disparate cultures who weren't likely to be in communication with each other.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_flood

Mattshark
QUOTE(uth @ Feb 12 2007, 03:34 AM) [snapback]1539438[/snapback]
Although I'm inclined not to believe the Noah's ark story was a literal event. It is extremely interesting the number of civilization that have a Great Flood story, and how similar the details are, even for disparate cultures who weren't likely to be in communication with each other.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_flood

Yes but this was a time when peoples worlds where smaller in relation to the distance traveled and the amount of world the average person saw was considerable smaller than what we would have. So a great flood to them would not be such to us.
uth
QUOTE(Mattshark @ Feb 12 2007, 03:40 AM) [snapback]1539448[/snapback]
Yes but this was a time when peoples worlds where smaller in relation to the distance traveled and the amount of world the average person saw was considerable smaller than what we would have. So a great flood to them would not be such to us.


True, but many of the Great Flood stories have the same elements. Deity angry at the world, Deity tells some righteous person to build a boat to escape his wrath, etc. I'm not saying it's proof of anything. Maybe it's such an obvious story that many cultures came up with it independantly. Maybe there's another explanation. Who knows?
Mattshark
QUOTE(uth @ Feb 12 2007, 04:00 AM) [snapback]1539472[/snapback]
True, but many of the Great Flood stories have the same elements. Deity angry at the world, Deity tells some righteous person to build a boat to escape his wrath, etc. I'm not saying it's proof of anything. Maybe it's such an obvious story that many cultures came up with it independantly. Maybe there's another explanation. Who knows?

I think that is more likely as the is not actually enough water in the world to flood it completely. Especially as the poles have always been frozen during the existance of Homo sapiens
SG7
This topic is not about the flood. Its about the possibility that the ark was a star ship of some kind. disgust.gif
isis-999
I just don't think it's a star ship myself, If the ark is on the mountain and it was a space ship some governement would have already taking it into a secret base and tore it apart....
Jjbreen
QUOTE(SG7 @ Feb 11 2007, 12:27 PM) [snapback]1538930[/snapback]
You know that thing on that mountain that they say is Noah's ark? What if its any alien ship, What if it is the reason we are hear? It could of brought us to this plaint and that could of started the story was started. Now I'm Not say God had nothing to do with it, For all I Know God help us get to this plaint using a star ship like that. What do you think?

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A space ship made of Wood?? Hmm.... Why not??? blink.gif
SG7
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Feb 11 2007, 11:16 PM) [snapback]1539556[/snapback]
I just don't think it's a star ship myself, If the ark is on the mountain and it was a space ship some governement would have already taking it into a secret base and tore it apart....

I dont think theres a base that big. Maybe there taking it a part right there, under the snow.
Atheist God
QUOTE(SG7 @ Feb 11 2007, 02:27 PM) [snapback]1538930[/snapback]
You know that thing on that mountain that they say is Noah's ark? What if its any alien ship, What if it is the reason we are hear? It could of brought us to this plaint and that could of started the story was started. Now I'm Not say God had nothing to do with it, For all I Know God help us get to this plaint using a star ship like that. What do you think?

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Impossible as they had traced back the story to an ancient Sumerien king.

The basic jist is...

A massive flood began and the king placed all of his most valuable possessions on his boat he had then sailed for 40 days and nights until coming to a halt on the top of a moutain where a shrine to the gods was in which he then gave gold and other valuables as an offering because they had sparred his life. Archaeologists have found what they beleive to be the remains of the said sight (cannot be sure).

There is also evidence of a massive flood in this region as well in and around this time period.

If you want to know what I think.... Stories like these will become the mythology of future generations much like we have greek and norse mythology today. The more elaborate the story the more likelyhood it less fact then fiction.
Jjbreen
Hey SG7;
Human kind can not gang any thing with out first giving some thing in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. -Edward Elric the Fullmetal Alchemist

I think you mean:

Human kind can GAIN anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. -

Gang just doesn't work..... Just a thought.
Pax Unum
QUOTE(SG7 @ Feb 11 2007, 02:27 PM) [snapback]1538930[/snapback]
You know that thing on that mountain that they say is Noah's ark? What if its any alien ship, What if it is the reason we are hear? It could of brought us to this plaint and that could of started the story was started. Now I'm Not say God had nothing to do with it, For all I Know God help us get to this plaint using a star ship like that. What do you think?

when do you think this space ark arrived? and did it bring ALL life with it in your opinion? there is a substantial fossil record showing life has been on Earth for a VERY long time... Just wondering
SG7
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Feb 12 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]1539994[/snapback]
when do you think this space ark arrived? and did it bring ALL life with it in your opinion? there is a substantial fossil record showing life has been on Earth for a VERY long time... Just wondering

I don't think it brut all life, gust some. And I think it would have goting hear about the time we started walking up right.
3rd rock resident alien
Adam and Eve were the original clones from the alien worlds. Alien clone cells were injected into the early days of earth animal kingdom and the best results were homo sapiens as 80 percent identical to the original aliens. Once they established that their kind can survive planet earth they then wipe out the top animal in the food chain - the dinosaurs. They left a monument in remembrance for their work here on Earth - The Pyramid. They also build a monument that tells they inject clone cells into other animals. They did not bring all of the animals from their world they just brought clone cells from their world.
Mattshark
QUOTE(3rd rock resident alien @ Feb 12 2007, 06:57 PM) [snapback]1540177[/snapback]
Adam and Eve were the original clones from the alien worlds. Alien clone cells were injected into the early days of earth animal kingdom and the best results were homo sapiens as 80 percent identical to the original aliens. Once they established that their kind can survive planet earth they then wipe out the top animal in the food chain - the dinosaurs. They left a monument in remembrance for their work here on Earth - The Pyramid. They also build a monument that tells they inject clone cells into other animals. They did not bring all of the animals from their world they just brought clone cells from their world.

Do you have any viable supporting evidence for this rather extraordinary claim?
Ryo Ohki
Please tell me you are joking. rolleyes.gif
3rd rock resident alien
The Aliens originally told Adam and Eve how they were created. They came from a clone cell. Eve came from Adam cell (rib taken and created Eve) to make sure no abnormality would result once the aliens mass produced the clone cells. Adam and Eve mass produced clone cells was then propagated throughout planet earth. As generations pass by, the elders added some story of their own to the original story and when it was written, many Elders have already added their own version of how Earth was created. Different versions resulted in divisions of the early homo sapiens and some created their own Gods. Fast forward, homo sapiens still could not agree to each other beliefs and still cannot reconcile each other Gods.

It was an Alien God.
Pax Unum
QUOTE(SG7 @ Feb 12 2007, 11:54 AM) [snapback]1540110[/snapback]
I don't think it brut all life, gust some. And I think it would have goting hear about the time we started walking up right.

why would the space ark bring primitive hominids?

Mt. Ararat is a stratovolcano formed by lava flows and pyroclastic ejection, thought to be 2MY old over all, do you really think someone would land a space ark on an active volcano over 1MYA?... just wondering
3rd rock resident alien
QUOTE(Mattshark @ Feb 12 2007, 07:05 PM) [snapback]1540188[/snapback]
Do you have any viable supporting evidence for this rather extraordinary claim?

You have to wait till 2012.
Mattshark
QUOTE(3rd rock resident alien @ Feb 12 2007, 07:30 PM) [snapback]1540230[/snapback]
You have to wait till 2012.

right, made it up it is then.
3rd rock resident alien
It would be much harder if I write and speak using the original alien language. Evidence? For first timers it involves hand signals, drawings, weird sounds and ESP.
Mattshark
QUOTE(3rd rock resident alien @ Feb 12 2007, 09:46 PM) [snapback]1540407[/snapback]
It would be much harder if I write and speak using the original alien language. Evidence? For first timers it involves hand signals, drawings and weird sounds and ESP.

Yes, thats what I said, you made it up.
3rd rock resident alien
You have your version. I couldn't blame you or your Elders. Its hard to reconcile to some but the truth will set you free. Aliens made a clone of themselves here on earth and was worshiped by early humans as Gods.
jaylemurph


QUOTE(3rd rock resident alien @ Feb 12 2007, 04:46 PM) [snapback]1540407[/snapback]
It would be much harder if I write and speak using the original alien language. Evidence? For first timers it involves hand signals, drawings, weird sounds and ESP.


Ha ha! So the Masons are the ones who know, right? It's always the Masons!

--Jaylemurph


PS: I have to ask it: How did you learn the alien language? Don't they even have a name for themselves/their language?
Mattshark
QUOTE(3rd rock resident alien @ Feb 12 2007, 09:59 PM) [snapback]1540423[/snapback]
You have your version. I couldn't blame you or your Elders. Its hard to reconcile to some but the truth will set you free. Aliens made a clone of themselves here on earth and was worshiped by early humans as Gods.

Actually my ideas have actual solid evidence behind them, yours have delussion.
3rd rock resident alien
What is your solid evidence?
Mattshark
QUOTE(3rd rock resident alien @ Feb 12 2007, 10:10 PM) [snapback]1540443[/snapback]
What is your solid evidence?
Fossils are pretty solid (both literally and metaphorically).
3rd rock resident alien
What about your race, species? Where it came from?
3rd rock resident alien
QUOTE(jaylemurph @ Feb 12 2007, 09:59 PM) [snapback]1540424[/snapback]
Ha ha! So the Masons are the ones who know, right? It's always the Masons!

--Jaylemurph
PS: I have to ask it: How did you learn the alien language? Don't they even have a name for themselves/their language?

Masons might know some signs and geometric patterns. As for the name and spoken language, it relies heavily on ESP. I can make a name for it but the original can only be invoke in ESP.
jaylemurph
QUOTE(3rd rock resident alien @ Feb 12 2007, 05:23 PM) [snapback]1540466[/snapback]
Masons might know some signs and geometric patterns. As for the name and spoken language, it relies heavily on ESP. I can make a name for it but the original can only be invoke in ESP.


Well, that's one convenient way around citing evidence.


--Jaylemurph
Mattshark
QUOTE(3rd rock resident alien @ Feb 12 2007, 10:18 PM) [snapback]1540453[/snapback]
What about your race, species? Where it came from?

From the evolution of other animals of a few billion years.
SG7
QUOTE(3rd rock resident alien @ Feb 12 2007, 12:57 PM) [snapback]1540177[/snapback]
Once they established that their kind can survive planet earth they then wipe out the top animal in the food chain - the dinosaurs.

We came a long time after the Dinos.
Mattshark
QUOTE(SG7 @ Feb 12 2007, 11:34 PM) [snapback]1540620[/snapback]
We came a long time after the Dinos.

We did indeed, 65million years after, thats an extremely long time.
Moro
QUOTE(3rd rock resident alien @ Feb 12 2007, 05:23 PM) [snapback]1540466[/snapback]
Masons might know some signs and geometric patterns. As for the name and spoken language, it relies heavily on ESP. I can make a name for it but the original can only be invoke in ESP.

Where in the world do you get this information? Or is it just some of you're thoughts?
Ryo Ohki
I think 3rd rocks been reading to much David Icke.
uth
QUOTE(3rd rock resident alien @ Feb 12 2007, 10:23 PM) [snapback]1540466[/snapback]
Masons might know some signs and geometric patterns. As for the name and spoken language, it relies heavily on ESP. I can make a name for it but the original can only be invoke in ESP.


You can embed telepathic messages in your postings if you use the [ESP] tag. Simply type [ESP], then focus your telepathic message at your PC, when done, type [/ESP] to close it. You won't see anything of course because it's telepathic. Just be really careful what you think of when you have the ESP tag open as you may betray embarassing thoughts. (Trust me on this, there's about a half dozen message boards I can no show up on because I wasn't careful)

I have embedded a telepathic message in this post as a demonstration.

( here )

Ok, so now I know what you're thinking, "This guy's either seriously deluded or just yanking our chains!" good! That was the message. The exact phrasing isn't important because telepathy is non-verbal. If you thought of a different message, then you might need to upgrade your browser.

have fun!
3rd rock resident alien
QUOTE(Mattshark @ Feb 12 2007, 10:41 PM) [snapback]1540508[/snapback]
From the evolution of other animals of a few billion years.

Now that you know that you came from a monkey (evolution), why is it that your ancestor monkey is still a monkey today. Scientist have been teaching monkeys and gorillas to speak up still it could not speak. Humans are 80 percent Alien and 20 percent primates. Alien clones.
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