just a wierd thought.. the dinos have been dominating earth for 120 million years, is it possible they have evolved a humanoid being capable of technology and space travel..that they fled earth before the asteroid impacts all, krypton style? anyways.. you must be thinking. well if they did evolve into technological capable species, why arent any of their ruins left behind? for one thing what if it was their choice to not leave anything behind in case mammals takes over the planets while they are gone and decide to evolve into people and start reverse engineering their technology and one day use it back against them when they come back.... haha who knows.. but its an interesting thought tho..it only took apes couple of million years to evolve into people..and only 40 thousand years ago we started becoming modern.. and it only took us 100 years from shuttling across the oceans to shuttling to the moon...
dinos that lived in trees might have counterparts to the mammalian monkeys or apes.. that eventually lead these into man.. so within that 120 million years, it's a possibility

Its not a possibilty, they evolved into birds, they wouldn't have cared if the mammals took over because nearly all where very small and very small in relation to the largest dinosaurs, there is nothing to suggest such an animal evolved like any evidence of any dead of such a species no dinosaur has a brain cavity large enough to support your speculation or any that fit the physical idea you describe. It also took us 450 years from trans-oceanic travel to lunar travel.
It is not a possibility.

true true... it would be cool tho if those beings did evolve.
however, if it were to be true and they did evolve and there are fossils of them....do you think the political/religious leaders of the most powerful nation on earth would let that tidbit to be made public?
that would make their precious bible and creation wrong and they'd lose their power.
but, you are correct, i don't think any organism of that caliber would have had a chance to evolve before us homo sapiens. never by a long shot.

I would have thought it would be easier for an advanced race to divert an asteroid than it would be to perform space travel.

The other thing is that intelligence and civilisation go together. Why Aren't dinos buried together or with artifacts?

On this theory we really could have the cow flying over the moon in x 1000 years.

read a short story once looong time ago, might have some details wrong but basically:

he was a cop and the world kinda blew up around him, all the cities gone and people killed off... then some space ships came and dumped off a bunch of dinosaurs. fast forward hundred thousands of years and some archeologists find a gun hundreds of thousands of years old with that cop's name etched in it.

sounds like carnivores, its a gamr for PC, i have 1,2, abd ice age. but to get to the point, interesting idea, totally impossible, there would have been SOME evidence despite their best eforts to destroy it. sounds like a good short storey. try to find it and post ti, i would like to read it. they evolved into birds and those who didn't died. end of storey. besides, why would they want to come back here? global worming, bush, wars, and polution. not that the previously stated bush cares.

not possible,there could be some remaining ones,but probably not very big ones

thats not possible either. they evolved or died. its been millions of years and we have explores almost every reach of this planet. THERE ARE NO MORE DINOSAURS

actually we still have a lot of places where we haven't explored yet

Lol, its more likely we evolved from a sea creature of sorts. Considering in the early stages of our development in our mothers tummies we have gills which close up.

all land vertibreates have. we evovled from fish.

which evolved from microscopic creatures

wich evovled from, um, coral? or whatever thos dome things in australia are. or is it algea that was the first living thing. thats in australia too

Cyanobacteria.

YES! thats it !

Dinosaurs are long gone. They just cannot survive in todays environment anymore.

not in temperate zones mabuy, but in 10 years, who knows with global warming. wich is a serious problem. but they still aren't coming back. there dead.

Sounds like someone has been watching Star Trek: Voyager... (there's an episode where they come across an alien species that originated on earth and were decended from some kind of dinosaur etc etc)

It's entirely possible I guess... I mean, that would explain all those "human" footprints next to dinosaur footprints you see lyin' around.

Those were actually not human prints, but eroded dinosaur prints.

Those footprints have been shown to not be human.
It really, really is not possible at all. Really.
They'd be evidence for a start.

if they are back,humans cant exist as everyone knows.........anyway ,there aint no way that they are going to be back...................

it took millions of years for humans to evolve after the dinos died. the didn't leave, there not still around, there gon dead and dead. they wouldn't have survived the ice age anyway

You mean like that Star Trek Voyager episode?

Wow...ummm...yeah, my ancestors did not evolve from fish. And as much as we all LOVE the idea that dinosaurs may still exist, they don't. It would be wicked awesome if they did though!

BTW, my ancestors started off as humans. They weren't freaks that took millions of years to mutate. That's gross.

If dinos come back, I'm leaving.......

all land vertibrates evovled from fish, wich evolved into amohibians wich evolved to reptiles withc evolved to mammal like reptiles witch evolved to mammals then to apes then humans. if you find that gross then consider this, we share 98% of our DNA with chimps, but according to your "good book" we all are imbreds due to adam and eve.

The majority of dinosaurs had very small brains, relative to their body size. However, a few of the smaller theropod dinosaurs had brain sizes equivalent to those of mammals of a similar size.

Quote: " It also took us 450 years from trans-oceanic travel to lunar travel."
Yes just 450 years to go from the first trans-oceanic expedition, then just 400 years more to turbine powered steamships travelling at 30 knots, then just another 50 years to intercontinental jet travel and just another 25 years to landing on the moon. I wouldnt call such a rate of development evolution, I would call it an anomaly, a phenomenon, an impossibility.

Brain size does not relate to intelligence directly, more senses need more brain power to run them, no dinosaur had a brain that was comparable to that of a primate of a large cetacean. Some sharks also have brain that are in relation to body mass large than quite a few mammals, does that mean they can make spaceships too?

Nonsense, they later developments were all small changes to the turbine system with the exception of rocketry which is still derived from that system and they all had the driving force of the second world war to speed up development and production, of course it the evolution of technology, just because it was a increase in the speed of development does not change that.

I wasnt going to reply on this thread but it really bothers me when someone says something is not possible when they have no clue what they are talking about, first of all a civilization no matter how advanced they were after 40+ million years and a meteor strike there would be no evidence of that civilization and if there was it would be buried so deep we wouldnt have found it yet. Also do you honestly beleive that we have fossils of every creature that lived back then because if you do you are sadly diluted we havent even discovered all the living animals yet. 120 million years is plenty of time for a intelligent species to evolve and then leave this earth to avoid the impact of a meteor. I agree its not likely but it is not impossible.

If you didn't say it, I was going to. I don't think it happened, but there is a chance it could have. Certainly NOT impossible.

Well there would be evidence, there are 2 known meteor strikes one in Yucatan and one much smaller (but still sizable) in the North Sea. That leaves a lot of land still, also a civilisation capable of leaving the planet would have left a lot of technology, it would not have been destroy by a meteor unless they all lived in Yucatan, something which can be safely ruled out. No i don't believe we have discovered all dinosaur species, but we have discovered enough to show there is no evidence of any of them being able to pilot a spaceship.

Personally I have never been diluted in my life. I don't believe I have I been deluded either.

There are more than 2 known meteor strikes, here is one that was recently found under a half mile of ice in the antartic. The crater is as wide as the state of Ohio.
http://buzz.smm.org/buzz/blog/crater_found...killer_asteroid



Not allowing even the smallest chance that we could be wrong about the evolution of life on this planet or missing some key discoveries would seem delusional to some.

I never said I wasn't wrong, I said I wasn't delusional, there is a difference.
Those meteors are the wrong time, I'm refering to the K-T boundy not the permian - triassic, that was 120 million years before the dinos dissapeared, just before they arrived in fact.

i am half dinosaur and yes my great great grandpa left earth many moon cycles ago.wtf

You didn't specify, which is fine. I'm sure the asteroid impacts that you have learned about are the only ones that will ever be discovered around the time of the K-T boudary. There is no way there could be another one out there or we would have noticed. I mean after all, we know everything that is to be known about the earth's history and the life that has evolved on it. Surely nothing could have existed on the face of the planet that we don't know of because we would have found evidence of it by now. Yeah, new discoveries don't happen ever and the paradigms are unchanging. All the pieces are already in place. It sure is nice that we know everything and there is not the slightest chance that a scenario like the op stated could have happened.

Don't patronise me, I never said I knew everything, I never said everything was know, I said dinosaur didn't fly away in a space ship. The vast majority of people would consider that a perfectly sensible statement. I neve said the was no other K-T meteorite hits, but since Asia lacks any giant K-t craters, it is safe to assume one didn't hit there. They have great fossil beds however from the cretacious, and the are only bones, nothing indicating that anyone manufactured anything.

I'm not patronizing you, I'm just taking issue with your posts, nothing more. I am certainly not arguing that the dinos flew away in a spaceship. They OP asked if it was possible that the dinos "evolved a humanoid being capable of technology and space travel" and could have left the earth. My stance is that the possibility, while EXTREMELY small based on what we know, still exists.

Think of it this way, what if I asked if it was possible that I win the next two lotto jackpots. Now you seem like a smart guy. The answer I would expect is, yeah it is possible, but... then give me all the reasons why it is not going to happen.

I realize that is not an exact anology, but I think you get my point.

My personal idea is though that when you get to a level of probability that is so low you can safely dismiss an idea.

Well there is a possiblity that pigs can fly.
The chances for dinos is so small as to be impossible.

Hi Cyrus,

Very interestng post. If you get a chance, pleae read R. A. Boulay's book "Flying Serpents and Dragons." In that book, he indeed talks about them not leaving any of their destructive technology behind. Albeit, we do have some, what I would call "alien" technology", I think the technology mentioned in the book would be so destructive that it could wipe away a civilization in the blinking of an eye. I agree as you mentioned that maybe they didn't want us to reverse engineer any of those weapons to use against them. You know what they say about foolish children. I do believe there could've possibly been a homo-saurus(as you will see in the book), but it could be too that they retreated underground. From things I've heard, there are living creatures living under the Earth.

As far as us evolving into these homosauruses, I think that would be devolution UNLESS we were genetically engineering to evolve into these beings. With all the experiments going on right now in genetic engineering, I wouldn't be surprised if there is an off-shoot of our species to homosaurus. Also, to recreate the dinosaurs, all they would need is a little DNA from ancient remains. I have a sneaking suspicion they may have one or more of these dinosaurs already created and hidden somewhere. It's not an impossiblity.

Fair enough, I think we have expended enough energy on this thread