Is it real?Or just dumb people stting themselves on fire.There are a few meaning to it.But i wanna know views.Lemme Know yours.Thank you

Depends on what you mean as 'real'

People don't just burst into flames, but that said if the circumstances are right they burn quite well, in some cases causing what some people call spontanious human combustion

I don't really know what to think, a huge part of me believes that himans can't just suddenly burst into flame, but then corpses have been found burned but the clothes remained untouched. How do you explain that?

Usually by circumstance and freak chance. You have to be really unlucky...

This whole thing with SHC used to intrigue me- until I saw a report on tv where this researcher used a hog in place of a human, and was it something [results] because he simulated the conditions of SHC and the hog totally burned to ash. It has something to do with fat content- and a carcass will burn to nothing but ashes very quickly ( I can't remember the name of the show ) but the hog burnt down in a matter of a hour or so. The hog's bones burnt down also. There was nothing but ash left when it was over.

How unbelievably cruel some people are.

Journey, yep thats the thing - it's fat content.

BE - Unfortunately so, all you can strive to do is do the best you can and hope others take you as a role model.

One theory of it was that,there were certain flammable chemicals in your body,and somehow they managed to be ignited(god knows how).i saw a CSI program where they found an old woman and the thought she had combusted,but she fell asleep with a cigarettein her mouth,one strand of her clothes burnt the whole body and left only ashes and the slightly burnt piece of clothing.

I now recall another part of the show- seems like most all the victims of SHC were wearing cotton clothing, and the cotton acts as a wick from the fat content- and leads to total burning of the body.
I agree with you Bright Eyes on the cruelty- but it was a carcass and not a live animal.

I saw that programme as well Journey, I can't remember most of it but I think they laid the pig on a bed and once it ws incinerated the bed was relatively untouched.

I saw those shows too. Although I still believe SHC exists, I could be wrong. What I want to know is on the reports of victims who were non-smokers, how did the fire start. I've heard a few cases where it starts from the inside, my only thought would be faulty nerves causing electricity to coarse thru a dry area igniting the body but I don't know if the nerves could cause a strong enough current. Also on the show with the pig, they doused it with lighter fluid, if it's suppose to be a experiment testing the flammability of the fat content, wouldn't the adding of lighter fluid produce inaccurate test results.

Below are some photos of human combustion. Notice in the images that furniture close to the burnt body are completely unaffected. But considering the extreme heat required to reduces a human body to mere ashes, it’s a mystery how the items around don’t also combust? Or the fire investigators complete lack of evidence of foul play!







And here’s a great link, that explains the phenomenon better than I could, lol.
Link to site!

I unsure what to believe with SHC

I've seen that show with the pig, but if i remember correctly, they douced the pig with fuel, then lit it... plus they didnt have any clothes on the pig, and it was sitting on a metal pan... So if each case was of a naked person, that douced themselves with a fuel, then laid down on a big cookie sheet, i could accept their answers, but as of now, i'm not convinced...

I dont know if anyone else has felt this, but i can remember a few times where one part of my body feels really hot, like my thigh, or something... i'm not saying i'm getting close to burning up, but i cant explain that either... and it's not like i'm running or something, i'll just be sitting on the couch, and part of my leg will feel like it's burning...

While I think the candle theory has some merit it doesn't account for certain cases of SHC or the man (wish I could remember his name) who tried to combust and survived.

My theory is based more on the contenet of the body and the natural electricity humans have.

OK the human body is a storehouse of many differing elements. some flammable some not so flammable. Now Add in that the human body has ungodly amounts of electricity running around it. Imagine that one of these chemicals gets out of balance and the synapses all fire just right or at the same time. Boom.

yes its rare but look at the number of confirmed SHC cases.


My theory anyway.

I think that they are just creative ways to commit suicide. Swallow some gasoline and have a smoke. LOL I dunno.
A few months back a man managed to decapitate himself. He tied a chain around a tree , the other end around his neck. Then he drove off. At about 100mph later ,the chain ran out and POP! What a way to go. He put some time into planning that one.

ick!

After all the week's planning that took,whatever happend to jumping in front of a train....come to think of it,i live alongside a railway......**seriously i do,but not daft enoough to commit harry carry,no reason to anyway,me loves life!**

Thanks for clearing that up Journey, about the pig being a corpse. How can that experiment really help in finding the causes when surely a living body might have completely different reactions?

I heard that in a crematory the bones have to be pulverized because calcium is very difficult to ignite! The fat helps the flesh to burn, the heat boils all the liquids but bones are a bitch!!

Could SHC have something to do with...E=MC2??

Just a thought

A couple of the problems that I have with the 'wick effect' as the pork wrapped in fat experiment is known, is that yes the pork did burn like it was supposed to but it took such a long time to reach the temperature and also the bone was only charred, not completely turned to ash as is the case with SHC, not only that, but the person doing the experiment used a blow torch to finish the job, as the fire went out.

As far as I can see, apart from the person burning to ash, which is what happens, the only real mysteries, apart from how they start are as follows:

- How does the fire leave the area they were alone, and only very rarely burn anything, and then only very slightly?

- How does the fire manage to in some cases leave a part of the victim unscathed, even though the rest of the victim is a pile of ash?

- How does the fire reach such a high temperature to be able to make ash of the body so quickly?
As an example there are cases on record of people only been left alone for about 10 mins, and in this time the victim has been burnt to ash and the fire gone nearly out.

There where actually two experiments to explain the wick effect using pork products that I know of .
The Pork chop experiment which is the most widely refered to . This one was however not accurate because the particular chop used was a few days old and had lost it's original moisture content and because the fat to muscle/ bone tissue ratios where way off . and of coure the guy used a blow torch at the end.
The second one was done using an entire freshly killed pig carcass roughly around the same size as an adult person resting on a matress.
I watched this experiment on the documentary I mentioned earlier and all they did was set the pig on fire and just as the wick effect explains it the entire body was reduced to ash . It did however take a long time working from memory I think it was around 12 hours could have been longer . The outer walls of the body kept the fire contained within it and hardly any of the matress or the surrounding material was burnt.

Once again I think SHC is possible!

The pig expirement took too long to explain how some people burn in minutes...

I've searched the net on this a long time ago so I'm sure you can still find the stories of that alchoholic who burst into flames and accounts from the firemen who put him out... or that lady that was driving in florida and her leg just burst into flame... or that old couple in their kitchen when the lady burst into flame right there in front of people...

And then there's a couple people whos heads explode... there was a chess player that happened to in front of alot of people... and some psychic lady I think her head blew up a while back...

There's so much we don't know. There's no telling how much we don't know. The more we know, the more we know we don't know...


EDIT: Duh, there's a post on these forums about the head thing... http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...p?showtopic=376

I believe that SHC is the result of extreme pyrokinesis. This belief must be dismissed only if there are investigations that have proven that a homocide or an accidental suicide has taken place.