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CryptoRay
I found this video on YouTube. The description says "I was sent this INCREDIBLE video from a guy in Hamburg. You won't believe your eyes. These guys were joking around filming each other in his car when they captured this really strange flying "creature" in the background. I have no idea what it is - they have suggested its angel....I'm not quite sure what to think..have a look for yourselves!!!" Could just be CGI animation, but what do you guys think?

link- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycjdwn9WEtA
Mattshark
QUOTE(CryptoRay @ Feb 12 2007, 06:26 PM) [snapback]1540147[/snapback]
I found this video on YouTube. The description says "I was sent this INCREDIBLE video from a guy in Hamburg. You won't believe your eyes. These guys were joking around filming each other in his car when they captured this really strange flying "creature" in the background. I have no idea what it is - they have suggested its angel....I'm not quite sure what to think..have a look for yourselves!!!" Could just be CGI animation, but what do you guys think?

link- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycjdwn9WEtA

In a city the size of Hamburg! It would have been noticed very easily, its a fake.
Torchwood
QUOTE(CryptoRay @ Feb 12 2007, 06:26 PM) [snapback]1540147[/snapback]
I found this video on YouTube. The description says "I was sent this INCREDIBLE video from a guy in Hamburg. You won't believe your eyes. These guys were joking around filming each other in his car when they captured this really strange flying "creature" in the background. I have no idea what it is - they have suggested its angel....I'm not quite sure what to think..have a look for yourselves!!!" Could just be CGI animation, but what do you guys think?

link- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycjdwn9WEtA

I checked out some of the assocciated vids with that and they appear to be people filming 'angel' wings apearing from nowhere and smashing cars etc. I couldnt see where that one was faked, all i could see was a smudge! BUt all the other "fallenwings" vids definatly were, you could see the joins! which in turn casts doubt on how authentic this is!
~Onyx~
Who the hell are these idiots that actually have the time(between making computer viruses, I mean) to just make-up stuff like this..sheeeeeeeesh.
Saard
Fakesville. It's very light and fuzzy when everything at the same distance is dark and distinct and notice how it slides away at the end instead of continuing to fly? A superinposed image from something else would do that.
Also, the accompanying text on U-tube reads like spam.
And, again, if there were great flapping beasties in the skies of Hamburg, someone else really would have said something.
Mattshark
QUOTE(Saard @ Feb 12 2007, 07:57 PM) [snapback]1540271[/snapback]
And, again, if there were great flapping beasties in the skies of Hamburg, someone else really would have said something.

Being one of Germanys biggest cities you would think so wouldn't you.
Samael
Pretty good, but almost certainly fake. Especially since they JUST SO HAPPEN to be filming when it flies past.
Saard
QUOTE(Mattshark @ Feb 12 2007, 07:59 PM) [snapback]1540274[/snapback]
Being one of Germanys biggest cities you would think so wouldn't you.


Absolutely. In most major cities, the police, army and media get bombarded with phone calls as soon as a headlight hits low cloud oddly or a non-native bird strays in.
There's probably a film buff out there who could tell us exactly which part of which film (Reign of Fire, anyone?) the image was lifted from.
I've got the same hipflask Matthew Mcthingy's character uses in Reign of Fire. I just wish the film was better and the hipflask was the tank, but you can't have everything... or your own mechanised infantry [sigh!].
my_psychosis
Wasnt this same video shown here before but described as a dragon instead of an angel? unsure.gif
Exeter
And lo,
Yet another appendage sprung from the bowels of the cyber kingdom
and spewed forth a deluge of lies, false images
and other bits of silliness.

The wise and foolish
All looked upon it with eyes opened wide
And stared agog at it's vile content
While muttering "Holy s**t"

Thus, a new source was born
Where the foul and pure swam intertwined
Truth and falsehood danced inseparable
And it's name was Youtube

Oh, BTW, that videos fake.
war_machine
I thought this was already discussed and considered a hoax
Moro
I personaly feel that all 3 of them were in on it, and they had it planned from the start!
It just looks so fake.

~Moro
Urisk
This has been done and dusted before.


But I think it's Spiderman.
draconic chronicler
QUOTE(Saard @ Feb 12 2007, 02:14 PM) [snapback]1540297[/snapback]
Absolutely. In most major cities, the police, army and media get bombarded with phone calls as soon as a headlight hits low cloud oddly or a non-native bird strays in.
There's probably a film buff out there who could tell us exactly which part of which film (Reign of Fire, anyone?) the image was lifted from.
I've got the same hipflask Matthew Mcthingy's character uses in Reign of Fire. I just wish the film was better and the hipflask was the tank, but you can't have everything... or your own mechanised infantry [sigh!].


Yes, that was a really stupid film and a waste of some excellent CGI dragon effects. Nothing in the film made any scientific sense and was totally illogical. And I still haven't figured why the Kentucky national guard brought outdated, surplus British military vehicles with them from the states in their big transport. There must be British junkyards full of them. ( real reason: low budget, cheapo B grade film).

As for supposedly real, giant flying reptile sighting, Texas has a few of them. Everthing is "big" in Texas, as they say.
Saard
QUOTE(draconic chronicler @ Feb 13 2007, 12:04 PM) [snapback]1541376[/snapback]
Yes, that was a really stupid film and a waste of some excellent CGI dragon effects. Nothing in the film made any scientific sense and was totally illogical. And I still haven't figured why the Kentucky national guard brought outdated, surplus British military vehicles with them from the states in their big transport. There must be British junkyards full of them. ( real reason: low budget, cheapo B grade film).

As for supposedly real, giant flying reptile sighting, Texas has a few of them. Everthing is "big" in Texas, as they say.


After the initial disappointment, I went back to the film a while later, and it does has a few good moments, but you have to ignore the twaddle. It is also, apart from Dragonslayer, the only film to have proper creepy or scary dragons in it. (Q the winged sepent's neither a dragon or scary). If anyone can correct me on this point and name a decent scary dragon movie, please do.

I'm going to have a look into these texas wing-ed monster stories too. Any leads?
capoeiranger
The simple question: Why would an angel cut his/her wing(s)?

Oh yeah, they say they fell in love with Meg Ryan...
my_psychosis
QUOTE(Exeter @ Feb 12 2007, 04:34 PM) [snapback]1540492[/snapback]
And lo,
Yet another appendage sprung from the bowels of the cyber kingdom
and spewed forth a deluge of lies, false images
and other bits of silliness.

The wise and foolish
All looked upon it with eyes opened wide
And stared agog at it's vile content
While muttering "Holy s**t"

Thus, a new source was born
Where the foul and pure swam intertwined
Truth and falsehood danced inseparable
And it's name was Youtube

Oh, BTW, that videos fake.

rofl.gif I agree.
draconic chronicler
QUOTE(Saard @ Feb 13 2007, 08:55 AM) [snapback]1541497[/snapback]
After the initial disappointment, I went back to the film a while later, and it does has a few good moments, but you have to ignore the twaddle. It is also, apart from Dragonslayer, the only film to have proper creepy or scary dragons in it. (Q the winged sepent's neither a dragon or scary). If anyone can correct me on this point and name a decent scary dragon movie, please do.

I'm going to have a look into these texas wing-ed monster stories too. Any leads?


I think if you type in Texas and Pterodactyl you will get some hits. Nowadays people call their dragons by more scientific terms. Also look up the Piasa Bird from Illinois which the Indians continued to fear at the time French explorers arrived and refused to enter the monster's territory. Interestingly, the creature was drawn on a rock bluff, and looked almost identical to a Medieval european dragon. It was called a bird because it could fly, but was depicted as a scaly bat-winged reptile with a long tail.

As for Reign of Fire, despite the good dragon cgi, science fiction should have at least some "science" in it, and nothing about the dragon biology and life cycle in that movie made any sense. But this is because this was just the script from independence day but with dragons conquering the world instead of aliens. Yes, the aliens/dragons must be invinceable at first, to conquer the whole world except for the intrepid little band of heroes who discover their only weakness and save the world. Give me a break.

Even if you went with the films own absurd ideas of science, the dragons would have "won". Since they don't eat meat unless forced to, but can somehow happily subsist on carbon, they would have simply charred and consumed every scrap of wood, vegetation and sniff out and eat (charbroiled preferably), every human, and then with the food gone, would have simply continued there lifecycle, and hibernated until the world was replenished again, millions of years later. This was the rule the storywriters already made. And if the only male was dead (a total absurdity to begin with), the females were already full of fertile eggs, as the dead dragon scene proved, and other males would undoubtedly been born. Even if a few humans survived after the dragons hibernated again, probably not for long, with every fragment of vegetation, and virtually every animal gone except for rats and insects the dragons missed.

The producers though this would be a blockbuster, but it did rather poorly despite the cool dragons and plenty of fireballs, because it was really too stupid, even for the ignorant masses.

They could have been scary dragons, but if you recall in the opening scenes, the dragons was just placidly lapping up ashes like a tame cow, utterly ignoring the humans. They didn't even bother the humans until the "Kentucky National Guard" flew to Britian to kill them. That wasn't scary, that was just stupid. Though I agree, the dragons themselves looked scary, and might have been if not employed in such a ridiculous movie. When I first heard about this, I thought it might be a kind of apocolypse thing as both Christian and Zoroastrian mythology claim "dragons" will destory one third of the world population in the "end times". At least that would have been a different angle than just a stupid rehash of the equally stupid and nonsensical Independence Day film.

I agree, the Dragonslyer dragon was very good one too, and realistically could not be killed by sword wielding humans as would really be the case with such an enormous, intelligent creature. But being a cornball Disney flick, it was hardly scary. There was no doubt who would win. The very name told you before the movie started.
FootBeef
QUOTE(capoeiranger @ Feb 13 2007, 07:10 PM) [snapback]1541830[/snapback]
Oh yeah, they say they fell in love with Meg Ryan...



Sorry to bring this up, you know being off topic and all, but I just hate the terrible remake of Der Himmel Uber Berlin.
Colonel Smithers
I would say: just a little scratch or dirt on the window..?
Saard
QUOTE(draconic chronicler @ Feb 14 2007, 11:36 AM) [snapback]1542876[/snapback]
...I agree, the Dragonslyer dragon was very good one too, and realistically could not be killed by sword wielding humans as would really be the case with such an enormous, intelligent creature. But being a cornball Disney flick, it was hardly scary. There was no doubt who would win. The very name told you before the movie started.


Oi! Leave Dragonslayer alone!
I saw that as a kid. It's dark, violent, arty and the dragon did actually incinerate a virgin or two, burning their hair off, screaming, everything. It's not your typical disney flick, controversially so at the time. Okay, the guy from ally mcbeal was always going to be ok, but you were never too sure about the supporting cast, especially after John Gielgud karked it.
Seeing it as an adult, it had a fantastic, creepy atmosphere, a funny, intelligent script, a good cast (the emperor's in it) and genuine moments of suspense and horror. Cornball, indeed!
Single best dragon film ever made.

I might have strayed off topic here. rolleyes.gif

I'm going to go and look up that stuff you said about the indians having an european-looking dragon, sounds interesting.
Urisk
Quoted for truth, Saard! thumbsup.gif

The bit with the girl you think he's trying to save, and he goes down the hole to find her very, very dead and being eaten by the dragon's baby brood. The Little Mermaid this ain't!
dj langylang
i think that this footage of an "angel"is a good fake but it gave me a little shock when it came out of nowhere.
my_psychosis
QUOTE(Saard @ Feb 14 2007, 11:25 AM) [snapback]1543159[/snapback]
Oi! Leave Dragonslayer alone!
I saw that as a kid. It's dark, violent, arty and the dragon did actually incinerate a virgin or two, burning their hair off, screaming, everything. It's not your typical disney flick, controversially so at the time. Okay, the guy from ally mcbeal was always going to be ok, but you were never too sure about the supporting cast, especially after John Gielgud karked it.
Seeing it as an adult, it had a fantastic, creepy atmosphere, a funny, intelligent script, a good cast (the emperor's in it) and genuine moments of suspense and horror. Cornball, indeed!
Single best dragon film ever made.

I might have strayed off topic here. rolleyes.gif

I'm going to go and look up that stuff you said about the indians having an european-looking dragon, sounds interesting.
I loved Dragon slayer. I havent seen it in years. " Plans to rent Dragon slayer tonight"
FLY SPITTA
That video looks fake...not to mention I can't understand a word they are saying haha, but that' just to blurry you can see everything except the flying image clearly....kind of odd ... *FAKE* Nice entertainment though.
frogfish
Its a waste of time...
capoeiranger
And along come frogfish...he wiped away those believers away...Wazzup man?
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