Have you ever wondered if there is something bigger bigger than we can imagine... not like a god or anything. Outside the universe could it be possible that there are larger being or something that created us in a moment hang with me here

..... my idea is that something as insignificant as a match being lit could be the whole meaning to our world. As our universe and the big bang could just be as little as a small reaction in someone elses world.


do you understand ? and something that takes them a small amount of time takes a universal proportion of time in our views


if its not clear i cant help that hehe but discuss !!

Interesting.....it's an interesting thought....and of course...."anything is POSSIBLE, some are just not PROBABLE". It does make one think of our universe sitting in a giant petri dish. I can't wait to see where this thread goes....maybe even other ideas will spring forth.

I imagine what is "beyond" the universe is too big for the human mind to comprehend, but it's fun to imagine we can .

I think there's more than we'll ever even know going on out there

lol i always think about this like what if we are just a string (from the string theory) in one cell making up a universe and they are one string and so forth

I agree with what everyone else has said...i think we will probably never really know....and it does sound like string theory, which is a fascinating concept....you should look into it Fyte (if you haven't already)

I think I know what you're saying. You mean, what if our entire existence - universe and all - is nothing more than a single spark from someone else's firework. What may appear to be billions of years to us may only be a fraction of a second to some other being in a dimension beyond our understanding.

Yeah I've thought of that. And I've also wondered if a single spark in this dimension is also a complete universe unto itself.

It's just a thought, but then who really knows...?

I get a headache thinking of these things...

My guess is that you can find out all that stuff after you die. My guess is that when you're a ghost, what's to stop you from going to places where you couldn't physically?

Thoughts like these drive me crazy. I try not to think about it to much. lol

A common theory, just a different version. We've all thought about it from time to time. "Maybe we are just the reaction of a match being lit"
"Maybe The entire human race is just a dream some greater being is having."
"Maybe we are all just someone's science project sitting in an aluminum tray atop some lab table".....And the fork ran away with the spoon.........
Like everybody else here has said, there's just no way of knowing.
Yes, you can go crazy asking questions like this, but i still like the way you think.

There are so many thing's we have yet to understand, I think anything is possible really as long as we keep a open mind and try to find the answer's.....But them again i don't believe we are truely ment to understand and know everything!!!

someone once said 'the universe exists only in our mind; there are no mysteries; only hidden truths'

In a book I read, I cant remember which one, is said something that stuck with me. It went along the lines of:
When you raise your finger, you are touching a thousand worlds even though you don't realize it. It works either way and every world is interconnected. This world we are in may be on the fingertip of someone in another, but you can never tell because humans don't have the capability to see them. When an event happens twice in two worlds, you experience daja vue(sp).

To me, this makes sense and it possible.

"What if nothing exists and we're all in somebody's dream? Or what's worse, what if only that fat guy in the third row exists? " Woody Allen

what if we were a flake of dandruff on some giant's head, but he's about to take a shower with some Head and Shoulders, and our existence is about to spiral down into the drain?? o.O

Sometimes I have thoughts like this also

i think one can refer to the movie men in black two in the end in which it shows the aliens playing around with marbles and incased in the marbles, our universe. or do i have the wrong image?

I think it was just a galaxy in each marble but I'm not sure...my Men in Black trivia isn't quite up to par

life sucks then you die.

Hang on, what about trust in where someone knows this topic well? Maybe christians? Because things are easier to know god as what i mean know something well?

Just to put your mind at ease if a human can conceptualise the ability of a higher plane of existence then you should have the ability to interact with it or theorise what it would be like to experience, for example you can understand how a different dimension could be similar but with fundamental differences like humans that ingest food via there butt and defecate from there mouth However because in this dimension we abide to the physical laws we interact with so will everything else.

A common analogy of the current space left after the big bang is an Ice cube and we are secluded in the imperfections and bubbles when the water froze, another suggestion is that this dimension is not unlike a vast membrane and we are the bacteria on its surface and the big bang was when two of these membranes collided, whatever the reality of our designation is our concept of the space and time around us and how we interact with it is amazingly perfect, for example imagine if you didn’t stop growing until you were 3 million years old, how could you remain in sync with your reality?

There maybe a land of Giants who live for a very long time but we could recognise this reality and interact with it like a super intelligent Bacteria.

i am sorry but how are we supposed to WONDER about something we CANT imagine ??? if i cant imagine it than it is HUMANLY imposible for me to WONDER ABOUT IT !!!

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Hi Fyte:

I've thought about this a lot lately. I first thought about the possibility after listening to physicist Dr. Beatriz Gato-Rivera's talk about the "Crown of creation syndrome" and about the possibility of us being a civilization embedded into a larger civilization. Then not long ago someone sent me a link to a site which included a depiction of what the Earth looks like in size as compared to other planets in the universe; and I never knew how very very small we actually are as a planet. If you put Earth on a scale with other larger planets, there comes a time on the chart where things get so large that we actually disappear from the chart. I don't think our human brains can even fathom the gargantuan sizes of these planets, let alone the vastness of our universe.

Sometimes people tell their children that when it rains, that means that God is crying, and when there's thunder, that means that God went bowling. Well, what if God coughed one day and he spewed us out.

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~ Isis2200

I see how your trying to compare "the big bang" to a match being lit.... But you cant.

It could be like we are just living in someones "fish tank" its allways weird to think about it like that, but who knows.

Interesting thought, Paskod. :-)

I once saw a "Twilight Zone" episode where a man and lady had appeared on a planet that seemed identical to Earth except there were no people on the planet except themselves. The man and lady searched and searched for other humans but there were none to be found. Then all of a sudden toward the end of the program, it shows a gigantic boy not standing on the Earth but looking down on the two people. Then the boy says "Dad, come here.! Look! They're moving around down there."

Yeah, I know what you mean: "Who knows?"

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~ Isis2200

Has anyone seen the movie "What the Bleep Do We Know"? It is a documentary on Consciousness and the meaning of life and the Universe, using Quantum Physics and more.

Something I found very interesting, well two things in particular, are these two statements:

"You cannot ask a question to which you do not already know the answer". J.Z. Knight

"Your body is your subconscious mind". Candace Pert, Ph.D. (I have actually ordered this CD). And a few years ago this occurred to me as well. We are ruled by our subconscious, so I put that together with the fact that our bodies are probably the physical manifestation of our soul (subconsious) in this material world.

I think one of the reasons people who meditate are calmer and more serene, is because they have learned to master the subconscious.

What if you are the only person who really exists?

Yes you, the one reading these words on your screen. What if none of what you've just seen and read is real, and everything is simply a construct of your imagination?

You can argue that it wasn't you who wrote these words you are now reading, and you can point to my account name as proof that you didn't make this post. But how can you be sure this isn't all a part of your imagination?

After all, you can imagine what type of person I am. You can imagine what I look and sound like, and you can even imagine a forum profile for me and fill it with as much or as little information as you like.

And, of course, you can type something out yourself and post it. And you may even get more than one reply. But how do you know you didn't create those replies in your mind, and are seeing only what you want to see?

In fact, what if you're not looking at a screen at all, but instead, you're staring into some endless void, and everything and everyone around you is simply all in your mind?

No, you know that none of that is possible. You know the difference between reality and fantasy. You're sure of this because you can reach over and touch your keyboard. You can feel the gravity of a solid world pulling you towards it and keeping you from flying off into space. You can see and hear the other people in your life, and they are as real as you are.

Yes, you can be sure you're not the only person who exists. You can be sure all you want.

That's called "Solipsism", right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism
Solipsism is the philosophical idea that "I am the only mind that exists". Solipsism (Latin: solus, alone + ipse, self) is an epistemological or metaphysical position that knowledge of anything outside the mind is unjustified. The external world and other minds cannot be known and may not exist. In the history of philosophy, solipsism has served as a skeptical hypothesis, which many philosophers have struggled to defend against. Assuming it is untrue, solipsism is a source of mental stress in individuals, inducing dissociative mental states.

The only thing that can and does exist is Consciousness - through the Unified Field. Most have heard that we are the people in our dreams, but how many know we are also the people in our 'waking' state as well?

A person can only go up one "Shock Level" at a time, though. More than that and there can be a psychological crash. It's best to come into this knowledge and understanding one step at a time.

Swandancer,

Interesting concepts. I've heard them before here. I can recall all my child hood my father would say to me "its all in the mind...". He is a religious man (christian) so he was certainly not refering to the concepts you allude to. But now as a man I am beginning to see just how 'real' that statement is -"Its all in the mind..."

Could it be that we are all collectively experience this reality together in unison? And that those who may come to 'our reality' either unwelcomed or unwilling pay a price that the 'group' doesn't? ...intersting indeed....

I agree, Swandancer, that's interesting.

I've also thought about another possibility in the past. What if you're the only one who is real and everyone else you've seen and talked with are only actors in a cosmic play. what if you wake up one day and realize the play is over. All the actors within reach come out and take their curtain call. Gee, that would be kinda scary.

Quite interesting, Isis. Would that mean, though, that if they're actors in my play, that I would also be one in theirs?

This is funny because on another message board I had the name Stage Play. I mainly took that because of my belief that we are not these bodies or personalities having these experiences.

Well, in the scenario I described, you would be the only one who is real if you're thinking from the first-person standpoint. I wouldn't be real nor would anyone else on this forum. We'd all be fabricated actors, and you would be the only real and true person. So you wouldn't be an actor in their play because they wouldn't be real. I hope I'm not confusing you more.

I think that all we believe and all we seem and is but an echo of the true reality. Do our eyes really see whats actually out there? Maybe our optic nerves have been made to see only an illusion. We could easily be somewere totally different then earth or in a place thats not a universe.

Hi Dark Ambient:

That's interesting that you mention that "Illusion" because in Hinduism the word "Maya" refers to the transitory, illusory appearance of the physical world that obscures the spiritual reality from which it originates. They also believe that it is the power that veils and obscures the true nature of the Self and creates a sense of differentiation. It makes the universal Consciousness, which is One, appear as duality and multiplicity.

I also believe in this Maya.

wow... i didn't imagine i would get this many replies thanks its been something that has puzzled me for a while but thinking about it now looking back ... i can see further than the idea of a match type concept i am comparing it to a match something in our universe our existence and it just shows me that humans cannot think of anything else except what exists in well our lives.

What do you think about that ? that there is something different like with the membrane theory thats still part of what we have discovered its useless coming up with ideas as our puny brains cannot imagine past our living today.

This thought might not be to far off. Humanity itself might soon create universes, maybe one day these created universes will harbor life and ponder the same questions we all ponder now.

This article outlines in lay terms the science involved and current thinking of creating "baby universes."

http://www.casavaria.com/sentido/science/2...ew-universe.htm

Hahahahaha, I had thought up this idea as well a couple months ago.

Quite funny really, I'm sure all of these ideas have been thought up hundreds of times before.

My other idea we're living in a single moment in time a part of another reality that created us.

When we'll be able to create and analyse an universe ourselves, we may understand that what we've just done has been done for us...

Hi Eleazaros, and Manni:

Wow! I listened to Scientific Researcher Charles Seife, and he was entertaining the possibility that "what if someone in another universe were experimenting with a large Hadron particle accelerator such as the one at CERN, and what if in doing so they created our universe? and what if universes are created in this way?"

This certainly is something to think about.

This reminds me of the end of men in black where it terns out are universe is in a marble inside a larger universe. It is not a idea thats to far out there its just a testament to what any thing can create. If a meteor hit the earth that would spawn a race of beings that could destroy worlds what could that race create?

Yup.

There are so many ways to explain reality and the best way to think of reality is to think of the size of the earth compared to the size of the sun. That is about as big as your brain can imagine. Now there are globes of gas in our universe that make the sun look like a period. That is something that it would take millions of minds together to imagine and it would take about 10 years for them to do so. You can go the other way with it, too. Do you know what you see when you look out into a big large field with green grass and bright sunshine? Greens and blues and yellows and . . . It gets so hard to explain something so small; beyond microscopic. That's why it takes so long to figure something out. There are so many many many ways that anything can be. Watch a little bird. His head is so quick, what does he see? Well, it's everything he needs to see. What do you see? Well, it's everything you need to see. If there is something humongously large that you need to see, you will see it. Really, the most effective way to get you to not see the big picture is to make you scared of it. Outside of these huge monstrocities and minute little-bitties, is there a God? Where are you? People, people, people! Every one of us is outside of the creation looking in. We are God looking at His Creation.

Time and space, the length with which we move ourselves within. From here to there, we measure existence by our understanding of three dimensions. The 4th, is the entangible and anti-matter concepts of what we do not see. So now, we prejudice the evidence of the "Unseen" and seek to determine the validity of its plausibility. Such as, when it challenges the known universe we understand at this time.
The idea of what is behind the wall,or End of this universe, the question if there is an end or otherside? The Infinity of this Universe is implausible for our minds to comprehend. We can say, Yes it has no end, with no faculty of reference to tie the concepts with. If we are able to do this, our level of consciouness would be higher than where we are now. Then again, as I began with 3 dimensional platforms, to understand the Complexity of the 5th and 11 th dimension of our Universe. The concept would be incomplete to fix the reality equation to 3 dimensions. It is to say, we cannot judge one person by One day and a few actions;where a fair measure would be a lifetime to profile the composite defintion of one Person's Lifetime.
For example, the "Wormhole" theory is explained by a 2 dimensional model by folding a sheet of paper. Imagine now, the Universe itself would be insulted by this comparison?
How is it, that carbon based forms acknowledging their surroundings is justified by beings encompassing 11 dimensions? That these same carbon based entities are profiled to understand reality, by perceiving themselves by power, knowledge, religion,wealth and science? The same Being(Humanity) looks back upon themselves by judging progress on their feats of technology from the past. Within their powers to conceive their reality, is that gift of reason and will. It's probably the entry level for which we are to be privileged to begin from.

I personally think we are in hell, I know really weird, but isnt hell supposed to be a bottomless pit, in darkness (space) and its source is fire (Sun).

and each time a person dies they have served their sentence passed down by God/Higher Being, which is why people die at all ages (depending on what there sin was), then they restart thier live again somwhere else to please god so they can go to that better place (also known as heaven).

Isn't hell supposed to be difficult and painful and unbearable at times, reminds me very much of earth.

just my thought
IS

Er... don't you think that the idea of hell was based around the experiences in our actual environment rather than the other way round? We know fire burns, we know darkness is scary and we know life is painful - therefore hell is all these things taken to an extreme.

We aren't living in hell, because it is a human invention.

I think someone has been into Men In Black movies right now..

ehem..
anyway back to serious mode.
Interesting thought. you're saying that we are in what I call in this world. subatomic beings?

You should read the book, 2001 a space odessy, the ending is totally diffrent from the movie, it hits on exactly what your talking about here, really give it a read. an rember it was written in 1963 and its relevant now.

A favorite quote is brought to mind.
I am not a religious person by any means. Spiritual, perhaps....I consider myself awake to the goings on around me. Dieties and all that? Pfft....who knows?
But this line struck me as very similar in perspective.

"God is a kid with an ant farm, lady." ~ Constantine

We can very well be just someone's pet hobby. A distraction, a toy, a mistake in an experiment. The penicillin from someone's moldy bread. Who knows?
Some may worship this "holder of the ant farm" as a diety, a god. Folks tend to need a crutch to lean on. Doesn't make them wrong, just in their own belief structure.
The point is...we're here in whatever reality we may be in. Whether it's all some guy in the boonies dream, or a parallel universe, or just the writings in a vast series of novels...we are here. Enjoy the ride.
Knowledge may be power...and knowing the truth may be cool and all...but in the end...what does it really matter?