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Chickpea
What does it mean when you have a full on dream and your a completely awake and aware of the dream. I know someone who has had a dream just like this. She was lying in bed and was looking at the roof and she could see images, very clear images of someone holding her hand and showing her around. This person could not even move like she was paralized. The dream became quite disturbing and she did not want to watch anymore but could not get out of this trance like dream. Is it the mind playing games or does this really happen like she is meant to know this dream for a reason??
Caesar
I don't think its possible to be conscious and subconscious at the same time
yael
Must've Been Astral Travel...But conciously and when your toughts are somewhere else...i could do it sometimes, well when i hear the high buzz in my head i sorta get out...
Jjbreen
QUOTE(Chickpea @ Feb 14 2007, 11:48 PM) [snapback]1543959[/snapback]
What does it mean when you have a full on dream and your a completely awake and aware of the dream. I know someone who has had a dream just like this. She was lying in bed and was looking at the roof and she could see images, very clear images of someone holding her hand and showing her around. This person could not even move like she was paralized. The dream became quite disturbing and she did not want to watch anymore but could not get out of this trance like dream. Is it the mind playing games or does this really happen like she is meant to know this dream for a reason??

Actually you just discribed what was going on. It's called "Sleep Paralisis" - when in this state you can have very lucid and vivid dreams. I have a good number of these. Each one I can discribe to you in vivid detail. To the "Misty Blue Cloud Vortex" above my bed, that reminded me of the "Worm Hole" on ST:DS9 to other's. The one mentioned was one of the more recent ones. I remember screeming to my wife for help, but no words would come out...... Yes there was something on the other side of the 'vortext', shadows of some sort. But it was nothing more than LUCID DREAMS.

Jj-
Atheist God
I can induce a dream like state while awake although I am not at liberty to say how on these boards.....PM me for more onformation if interested in learning how to acheive a higher state of consciousness no meditation or sleep required and you are only limited by your imagination.
Sweetpumper
QUOTE(GanjaGuru @ Feb 15 2007, 10:14 PM) [snapback]1544644[/snapback]
I can induce a dream like state while awake although I am not at liberty to say how on these boards.....PM me for more onformation if interested in learning how to acheive a higher state of consciousness no meditation or sleep required and you are only limited by your imagination.


Imagination......and a pipe...?
airika
QUOTE(Sweetpumper @ Feb 15 2007, 02:18 PM) [snapback]1544652[/snapback]
Imagination......and a pipe...?



LMAO....

and a higher state of conciousness?? but you can only go as far as your imagination??? sounds to me..like...it's completely in your head....in an imaginatory state....my 5 year old also talks to Dora......I'm sure she could tell you how THAT is acheived.
Silent Ghost
Sleep Paralysis is believed to be intentionally caused through Wake Induced Lucid Dreaming (bascially keeping your mind aware while you trick your body into falling asleep). This is one of the most popular techniques for lucid dreaming. Sleep Paralysis can occur spontaneously. Usually the person who goes through this (spontaneously) senses or even sees another presence in the room. The presence is usually evil, and you fear something worse than death. Yet you can't scream or move.

Hypnagogic Imagery and Sleep Paralysis both are key elements in these episodes. The presence and entities as well as the emotions are all a product created by your mind.

Like I said some people want to have these experiences to help induce lucid dreaming. It does take some practice, but it is possible to accustom your mind to do WILD.

This has been proven through science, but you have to be devoted in accomplishing it. Otherwise, more people would talk about it and try it.
airika
QUOTE(Byron Sanchez @ Feb 15 2007, 04:33 PM) [snapback]1544795[/snapback]
Sleep Paralysis is believed to be intentionally caused through Wake Induced Lucid Dreaming (bascially keeping your mind aware while you trick your body into falling asleep). This is one of the most popular techniques for lucid dreaming. Sleep Paralysis can occur spontaneously. Usually the person who goes through this (spontaneously) senses or even sees another presence in the room. The presence is usually evil, and you fear something worse than death. Yet you can't scream or move.

Hypnagogic Imagery and Sleep Paralysis both are key elements in these episodes. The presence and entities as well as the emotions are all a product created by your mind.

Like I said some people want to have these experiences to help induce lucid dreaming. It does take some practice, but it is possible to accustom your mind to do WILD.

This has been proven through science, but you have to be devoted in accomplishing it. Otherwise, more people would talk about it and try it.



SP and lucid dreaming are 2 different things....but they can both be achieved at the same time. On the Discovery channel....they had a special on SP, and the doctors can medically explain as to WHY SP occures. You can't have a self induced lucid dream SP while standing in the kitchen. (unless you have narcolepsy)
Silent Ghost
QUOTE(airika @ Feb 16 2007, 12:37 AM) [snapback]1544802[/snapback]
SP and lucid dreaming are 2 different things....but they can both be achieved at the same time. On the Discovery channel....they had a special on SP, and the doctors can medically explain as to WHY SP occures. You can't have a self induced lucid dream SP while standing in the kitchen. (unless you have narcolepsy)


Very true. If you plan to intentionally have SP, it is best to be stress-free and obviously lying down comfortably. Do not think of anything stressful or exciting. Basically, you just have to get comfortable and start focusing on your breathing (this is one of many techniques). It's more effective if you sleep for 5-6 hours, have your alarm clock wake you, then attempt to have SP. Then again, techniques work better for some than others. So the best technique is different for everyone. There are many guides out there to try out.

Once you are in SP state, you can attempt to induce a lucid dream (it can be very effective), but it will not always work.

In my opinion, it isn't worth doing unless you really want to know what it is, and if you really want to have a lucid dream. The reason is because it may end up taking a lot of time- what with reading guides, and waking in the middle of your sleep. You may end up damaging your sleep for the night and finding yourself tired in the morning (if you are unsuccessful or if it takes to long to get SP).

The entire transition from "Waking" State to Dream State while staying aware is WILD.
Chickpea

QUOTE(Byron Sanchez @ Feb 16 2007, 12:51 AM) [snapback]1544812[/snapback]
Very true. If you plan to intentionally have SP, it is best to be stress-free and obviously lying down comfortably. Do not think of anything stressful or exciting. Basically, you just have to get comfortable and start focusing on your breathing (this is one of many techniques). It's more effective if you sleep for 5-6 hours, have your alarm clock wake you, then attempt to have SP. Then again, techniques work better for some than others. So the best technique is different for everyone. There are many guides out there to try out.

Once you are in SP state, you can attempt to induce a lucid dream (it can be very effective), but it will not always work.

In my opinion, it isn't worth doing unless you really want to know what it is, and if you really want to have a lucid dream. The reason is because it may end up taking a lot of time- what with reading guides, and waking in the middle of your sleep. You may end up damaging your sleep for the night and finding yourself tired in the morning (if you are unsuccessful or if it takes to long to get SP).

The entire transition from "Waking" State to Dream State while staying aware is WILD.


What if the person (Who we will call 'Sarah') is not even thinking or trying to concerntrate on a particular subject. Sarah was trying to go to sleep and there was someone (whom she could not see her face just a hand) taking her by the hand and showing her this house, the number of the house, the view from the front window, the furniture in the house and when this person knocked on the door of this house to show Sarah who lived there, Sarah could see who the occupant was, very clearly and he was wearing a necklace of a lady that Sarah beleives was showing her around. To be just trying to get to sleep and not even think about anything remotely along those lines is a bit wierd. So she was not even trying or concertrating to have a lucid dream. But why would she have this dream and to see everything so clearly.



Blueguardian
of course there are people like me who argue that there is something paranormal going on with sp, some of the things people see cant be explained, like the figure they usually see,
i did a topic on it a few weeks ago, and i got some really interesting responses and theories

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=87213
Reality Shift believer
Lucid Dreaming, its funny, I was watching NASCAR and I rested my head back to close my eyes and trumpets started playing. I was half awake. I saw children playing trumpets on a wooden stage. I woke up intentionally because I realized what happened. The trumpets were played at NASCAR in mexico city. LOL


Back on topic. Dreams are caused by the sub-concious minds and happen all the time.Which brings a new theory on Deja-Vu. But I won't get into that. Lucid dreams happen to be when the concious part is just awake enough to record it and alter it slightly. The excitement bought about during the recording process causes people to wake during an intensive time. The sleep disorder thing is not a disorder at all. As a matter of fact dreams are supposed to represent wishes, whether we are aware of them or not. It is sad that different disorder names are given. It makes people feel bad. But drugs can cause this thing to. It is catagorized under hallucinogens. Don't know if i spelled that right. You ever heard the story where a guy got so drunk on something that he hallucinated spiders crawling up his skin and felt it? He died due to his attempt to rip off his skin because he thought they were in his skin. Kinda funny that spiders was that guy's worst fear.
Reality Shift believer
" It is sad that different disorder names are given"--- me again

Well I guess my school is a disorder. Druggys are a disorder. The president is a disorder. the FDA is a disorder. Face it. Disorders don't exist because if they do, we're all a disorder because none of us are perfect.
sheleven
It doesnt sound like lucid dreaming.When you lucid dream you have control over what happens in the dream.It sounds more like sp.I wouldnt rush to diagnose your friend with a sleep disorder because it sounds like it was a once off thing.I got it once and havnt had it happen since.
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