I know I know ....we've heard it all before but this guy does seem less loopy than the usual prophet and in fairness
the sightings do seem to be increasing like he says....but make your own mind up

Link

http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/update...v/m17-010.shtml

Whitley Streibers take on Val Ellam

http://www.unknowncountry.com/journal/?id=258

Hm, personally I don't really expect anything to happen - thinking logically about it, how can he mention that 'several' alien species are to visit between a specified time? How did that invitation come across? - " Hey, fancy a get-together on Earth? We'll put a decent spread on and you can have a natter with the locals"
It all seems abit too far fetched really in my opinion.

I agree...

It's true..the aliens are coming. and their bringing the potato salad

Ummm - potatoe salad?? Are we the "main course??"

Humor aside -
I guess I have to ask HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT TAKE BEFORE THESE IDIOTS LEARN THEIR LESSON???

There is an old quote that I enjoy very much - "Learn from other's mistakes. You will not live long enough to make them all yourself."

So let's see:
... Aliens were suppose to rescue us when Y2K hit. That we did "not plan w/enough forsight".
Well actually I think the conspiracy was w/the computer industry. Sell as much as they could before Y2K - cause after words, the 'ride of fear' will be over. The computer marked too a small 'crash'. I mean this fear was 'sold' so well - that people didn't even stop to actually think: One lady brought her vacum into the computer store I was working at P/T to see if it was Y2K ready. I took it to back of the shop, vacumed a large area that needed vacumed. Handed it back to her and said,"It'll be just fine." "How much do I owe you??" "Nothing mam, Y2K vacume service is free." A boy-scout was selling wall calendars. I thumbed through it and asked, "Is this Y2K complient??" He looked at me and answered, "I didn't asked!" took it back and went out the door before I could tell him I was just joking... sigh........ But NO Alien help......

... Then we had the Ms. Nancy Liederman (sp?) and her May visitation of alien planet. Ooops May came and 'they' didn't. So it was moved to JULY. Ooops, July came and 'they' didn't. Ooops.

... Then last May (what is it about May??) We were told about the comet frag that was going to HIT the Atlantic Ocean and wipe out the Eastern Coast Line.... OOops.

... Then we were told on this Forum, December was going to be a BIG ALIEN CONTACT, with a 'few' ships. Oooop.

And there are other's I'm sure - So what happens at the End of April and May comes and NOTHING HAPPENS??? And nothing will - this is all for attention and $$$. Nothing more. So when is enough - enough???

I think the OLD Testiment had it right: "If some prophicied something and it didn't happen: They were killed." Sure cuts down on this crap, now wouldn't it. "They" would think twice and be really really sure - for there WOULD BE A COST. I do NOT advocate killing them - but there SHOULD BE A VERY COSTLY PRICE for being wrong in this focal point. So these dudes/duddettes think TWICE before they open their mouth. Say they LOOSE EVERYTHING - $$$, Homes, Cars = well EVERYTHING. That would be a 'nice price'.

Jj -

Hey i'm not disagreeing with anyone.........i'm there with you on this one....we've heard it all before.But what i found interesting about this guy is that he's a respected UFO researcher in Brazil and he's prepared to put such a short timespan on it .......So another reputation bites the dust i s'pose.

Saw 2 tiny blinking suns today. They're very far away but you'll see them once you can focus on them.

I don't think anything is going to happen either, I think people like this play on the fear of other's......

Question is .... is it gonna be a public visit or a visit only for the governments behind closed doors, so we will probably never get to hear about it anyway.

Well in his interview he says that the contact will be preceded by rising numbers of sightings in major cities across the world.....In fairness there are plenty of forums now talking about the perceived rise in sightings....so he could argue this....But his big problems gonna come in April when nothing's happened isn't it ?

Ya - probably something along the lines; "They decided we were not ready to be welcomed into the "Galatic Community" yet. Too many 'issues' that have to be 'worked out' - or something along that line of thought..... or ..... The date was changed for 'various reasons .... or .... It will be "spiritual" awakening and only those whose 'hearts were right' saw this event.

Jj -

If I was an alien and read what Jj just said I wouldn't want to come here either. I think it's ridiculous to say that if someone considers themselves a prophet they should be killed if what they forsee doesnt happen. That's straight up communism right there. People are free to do and say whatever they want to. It's the ignorant people who listen to it that should be taken care of. The problem is that our culture, at least in America, is driven by the media. Most people aren't smart enough to tell if something is actually valid. They voted for Bush didn't they? At least half of this county is bent on controlling everyone else in the world. There is NO WAY that people will EVER accept the fact that aliens might exist. Some people are still afraid of things like "algae" and "yoga"

But anyway, I liked reading about what he has to say. It would be kick ass if something actually happened. But it's wishful thinking and I'm not keeping my hopes up. It's worse to be totally stoked about something that ends up not happening than to be just kind of apathetic.

Well they got two weeks... ;P

I wish people would read all that I said, please.


Jj -

Just bumping this up........Lest we forget what he said...
In fairness though i said in the post introduction "before March 2007" whereas i think he is actually saying before the end of April 2007 .....We await with baited breath
The clock is ticking.......Will it happen ? Yae or Nae

Contact will be initiated. It's just a matter of 'when' and 'how'.

Whelp according to this guy, the when is today, right? Last day for the big before-March prophesy. I'll be waiting anxiously.

Valiens

It's actually April.....I put the wrong date in the title of the thread ...sorrrrrryyyyyy

If anything happens i think it will be april 8th....

ahhhh Bogey thats to funny, I even went out and bought a cake to share with them cute little alien guys lol

That's ok...more cake for you!

What I'm now wondering is, why do aliens follow a human religious calendar? I mean, first it was supposed to be disclosure on Christmas, now it's Easter? Seems a bit odd to me. Hey, not that I wouldn't absolutely love such disclosure mind you.

My guess it will be April 1, as that would be fitting for an appearance.

Didn't you also say an alien fleet of 2 trillion ships was going to come down?

Thats exactly 2 years to the day that you joined U.M. spooky

It's snowing here in North Seattle area, does that count?? Umm, 'snow creatures'. I mean Sci-Fi had the "sun creature" on...

But actually - Will it happen?? I give it two thumbs down... Click to view attachment Click to view attachment

If I was an ALIEN Jj'd be the first person I visited. I'd knock on his door, and when he opened it, I'd wrap a few tentacles around him, give him a good shake and say "What now BEEEYATTCH!? Debunk THIS!" And then I'd Alien-pimp slap him, and head down to the Mall for my official appearance. But that's just me...

lol

I was referring to:

Jjbreen: I think the OLD Testiment had it right: "If some prophicied something and it didn't happen: They were killed." Sure cuts down on this crap, now wouldn't it. "They" would think twice and be really really sure - for there WOULD BE A COST. I do NOT advocate killing them - but there SHOULD BE A VERY COSTLY PRICE for being wrong in this focal point. So these dudes/duddettes think TWICE before they open their mouth. Say they LOOSE EVERYTHING - $$$, Homes, Cars = well EVERYTHING. That would be a 'nice price'.

There should a price on the people who LISTEN TO THAT CRAP!! It's their own fault, not the person making some prophecy. See, your one of those people who puts the blame for something on the wrong thing. There is a thing in this country called Free Speech. I personally enjoy my free speech and take advantage of it every single day on this forum. If the world worked the way you'd like it to, we'd all be living in communism. I don't particularly like that idea. And I'm not even referring to what the Bible says, I'm referring to what you said about taking away a persons possessions for something they say. When you give a government or people that kind of power, where are the limits? Would you want all of your possessions taken away from you for something you said?

Gumby - That would be so cool if that happened. I would ask for a ride in the craft too, to top off the 'slap around', I mean come on, if I'm going to get the 'sense' slapped into by one of their 8 arms ... at least I can have some comfort of enjoying a ride to the mall, yes???

So I say - BRING IT ON!!! I welcome it!!!

Maybe it's similar to the female creature on "Galaxy Quest" - that had the 'hots' for "Munk"??

Too funny!

Actually, I'd pay to see that!

You know I actually understand where you are coming from on this.
I guess I wonder where the line is between those that do PREY on people's beliefs and $$$ in on those beliefs by making these extreme claims??
I agree in "FREE SPEACH" but that, in my personal opinion, this carries a responsiblity and accountablity with it, does it not?? Especially when FREE SPEACH is being obviously used to PREY on fear, belief and superstitions of others for $$$.
Should there not be a "price" - say at the least - Pay the people back w/interest??
Then what would happen to these people that Prey like this. Would it not create a needed 'second thought'??

Jj -

Lilly - I WOULD TOO!!! LMAO....

Perhaps the great majority of humans are comparitively the Klingons of the universe.



Many humans already do accept the idea, as a theoretical general principle. Unfortunately, most of them would treat an actual alien like a video game villain, there only to be taken advantage of, abused or shot at.



It would be nice, if anyone was going to arrive, to have them soon.

I knew you had an inner freak thing going on! A little Alien Fever goin on there!

Nothing to worry people, i've sent a message to my Alien friends to cancel it.

Yeah...Probably his lease was up for his condo in Rio and so he had to sell an article or two to pay for it....

And here it is, March 4th, ans NADA! Bummer.

I agree i think they will turn up on April the first and announce WE COME IN PEACE.....APRIL FOOL'S!!!! BUWHAHAHAHAAHAH!!! then kill us all.

Or they could show up in july then it would be like the movie independence day! lol

Then to quote Will Smith, "I have to ge me one of these!!" - I agree an interstellar space craft is a "need to get one of these' on my list!

Now the question is: When this doesn't happen and it won't - will this sort of BS stop?? Nope - "a fool and their money is easily parted!" (I just wish I didn't have the moral/ethical values I do, I could be so Rich!!) LOL....

Jj -

People will always believe in this stuff. In fact they believe in it and want it to happen so bad they start making up things like this thread! lol

Yup...... Looking more and more likely that another reputation goes....

Less than a week to month end

I guess the window for contact has closed since march is over?....the aliens wont be coming anytime soon....the wars over.the human race won...

Yep it's getting tight guys ......5 Days left
I think he's affiliated to this website ...but it's not English ...I think Potugese ? Maybe someone who understands Portugese can go on the forum there and see what the update on this is ?

http://www.orbum.org/web/

I'm going to be uber pissed if they are late! I do not tolerate tardiness! Alien contact is no exception!

It's very safe to say that" "this one will bite the dust too..."

Then the excuses will fly - as they always do. And they (messengers) will get all EMO -

It was meant "metaphysically" - those that were ready 'heard it' - those not, well didn't.

Or there was a change of mind, we were "not ready" to enter into this 'buzzing galatic empire' - (shades of Star Wars) or Federation - (shades of Star Trek) or Galatic Commonwealth -(shades of Andromeda).

OR "they" are not done 'evangelising' the world yet. Some of us are still not 'spiritually ready' - we need to 'convert' to their standard of what is 'spiritual'....

Or the message was wrong and the date is actually May, July, September or even changed to 2012.

Did the federation decide against their vacation?

Raptor my good man: He has two or more TV shows "out there" now: Star Trek: Federation and Andromeda: Commonwealth.
Does that mean G. Rodenberry is fighting w/himself???

There's something i dont understand , why do these guys tie themselves down to specific dates ? ....Why not just spin it out and milk it for all it's worth like most do ?
I read up a bit on this guy and he certainly seemed to be less of a kook than most of the UFO prophets, so why ?
Has anyone with a knowledge of Potugese gone to that site to see wht the jizz there is ?
Bogey

Do you remember or did you hear of the guy last year that had the "SAVE LIVES IN MAY" - (what is it about May?) - where the then active comet that was seen was suppose to 'break off' and pieces were suppose to 'splash down in the Atlantic Ocean and wipe out the US South Eastern Coastline'? It was a 'bust' and then to find out he excused it as it was suppose have actually been a 'nuclear warhead' and that all his followers and their 'positive thoughts' cause this to be averted.

These people are nothing more than attention seekers - or allowed themselves to be made fools of for what ever reason.

The problem is they didn't even come close to engaging ANY Critical Thinking or Reasoning - not to mention just good old "common sense".

I know one person who has a working theory, which I think might hold some 'water' - "Some of the believers are getting so desperate that they are trying to 'force' what ever government to expose their hand about Alien UFO's. They are so desperate to have their belief validated that they will go to possible extreme measure to see if they can force some exposure to a 'truth' that just isn't there." I tend to think he might be right for the most part. Especially with some of the people, news and such we see posted and broadcasted on various media."