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pickles
WEll as we all no the ocean is huge witha 7 mile depth. I have read some very weird stuff about the ocean. Ive also heard we have only discovered 2% of our ocean , ok so what about the other 98 percent. Ive heard there are huge fish that we have probably havent even seen yet, Uso's what happens if they controll the oceaan. And one more thing what about our govt do you think they have secret underground bases. What happens if they have like a area 51 underwater you would never no because nothing is said really about the ocean. If you have any info on this topic please put it in here im intrested to find out more about this topic.
Isis2200
QUOTE(pickles @ Feb 16 2007, 12:26 PM) [snapback]1545813[/snapback]
WEll as we all no the ocean is huge witha 7 mile depth. I have read some very weird stuff about the ocean. Ive also heard we have only discovered 2% of our ocean , ok so what about the other 98 percent. Ive heard there are huge fish that we have probably havent even seen yet, Uso's what happens if they controll the oceaan. And one more thing what about our govt do you think they have secret underground bases. What happens if they have like a area 51 underwater you would never no because nothing is said really about the ocean. If you have any info on this topic please put it in here im intrested to find out more about this topic.


I know, Pickles, this is weird. I didn't know the percentage was that low. Yeah, I think we may have some strange things down there that hasn't been discovered yet --not to mention Leviathon who lies sleeping until the appointed time. wink2.gif

There's no doubt in my mind that there are underwater alien bases and that USO's exist. There could also be underwater government bases or alien/govt bases in which they work together on some level.

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m. Moe
Although much of our oceans are undiscovered, that doen't mean that aliens are controling them. rolleyes.gif The most we will probably find is eyeless invertebrates, squid and bioluminous fish.
jesspy
We know more about all the other planets combined then we do about our oceans. In fact we know more about Jupiter then we do about the atlantic Ocean
m. Moe
QUOTE(jesspy @ Feb 17 2007, 12:46 AM) [snapback]1546834[/snapback]
We know more about all the other planets combined then we do about our oceans. In fact we know more about Jupiter then we do about the atlantic Ocean

Thats because people are more interested in space than the ocean.
sbradj
there is less fish than before and more polution in our oceans... unsure.gif sry but thats all i know
jesspy
QUOTE(MR_MOE @ Feb 18 2007, 10:06 AM) [snapback]1547551[/snapback]
Thats because people are more interested in space than the ocean.


true
i guess
Mattshark
QUOTE(pickles @ Feb 16 2007, 05:26 PM) [snapback]1545813[/snapback]
WEll as we all no the ocean is huge witha 7 mile depth. I have read some very weird stuff about the ocean. Ive also heard we have only discovered 2% of our ocean , ok so what about the other 98 percent. Ive heard there are huge fish that we have probably havent even seen yet, Uso's what happens if they controll the oceaan. And one more thing what about our govt do you think they have secret underground bases. What happens if they have like a area 51 underwater you would never no because nothing is said really about the ocean. If you have any info on this topic please put it in here im intrested to find out more about this topic.

Shallow tropical water has a lot of life due to coral reefs, temperate water with high turbidity has a lot of life due to nutirent rich upwellings, the open ocean is like a big desert, very little through out most of it because there is next to no primary production, no primary production means no food chain. Limited food means giant animals are pretty much impossible unless they enter shallow waters.
Cetacea
QUOTE(pickles @ Feb 16 2007, 05:26 PM) [snapback]1545813[/snapback]
WEll as we all no the ocean is huge witha 7 mile depth. I have read some very weird stuff about the ocean. Ive also heard we have only discovered 2% of our ocean , ok so what about the other 98 percent. Ive heard there are huge fish that we have probably havent even seen yet, Uso's what happens if they controll the oceaan. And one more thing what about our govt do you think they have secret underground bases. What happens if they have like a area 51 underwater you would never no because nothing is said really about the ocean. If you have any info on this topic please put it in here im intrested to find out more about this topic.


Usos and giant fish are extemely unlikely. As Mattshark already mentioned, we are unlikely to find anymore large animals,shallow waters are realtiely well studied and we knew about the existence of the giant squid and some beaked whales well before they were actually caught on film due to the washing up of specimens on beaches etc. Howevver i am sure there is still a lot of interestign things to be discovvered and the things that havee been discovered are still not fully understood so there is definately a lot to do...
If you are interested in the ocean, Mapping the Deep is supposed to be a good introductory read about the ocean and marine bio in general although I was not exactly fascinated, i much prefer Marine Biology by Levington as a good introduction to Marine Bio. Mapping the Deep is a 'popular science' type book while Levington is a textbook but I still think Levington is both easier and more enjoyable to read. If you are interested in the ocean you should enjoy the Blue Planet documentaries.

QUOTE(MR_MOE @ Feb 17 2007, 11:06 PM) [snapback]1547551[/snapback]
Thats because people are more interested in space than the ocean.



Sadly that is true, if I think of all the things that could be done for the ocean or the type of research that could be funded if only half as much money was invested in ocean research as in space research...It would be brilliant and probably a lot more useful as well.....
HAJiME
The whole "we know more about space than the ocean" is a bit daft, because when there is more of something there is afterall more to know.
The ocean isn't infinate.

I'm pretty confident, however, that there are many deep sea beasts that will continue to shock us. Of varing sizes.
Mattshark
QUOTE(HAJiME @ Feb 20 2007, 04:23 PM) [snapback]1551229[/snapback]
The whole "we know more about space than the ocean" is a bit daft, because when there is more of something there is afterall more to know.
The ocean isn't infinate.

I'm pretty confident, however, that there are many deep sea beasts that will continue to shock us. Of varing sizes.

Deep sea animals can not reach large sizes, pressure and food availabilty prevent this, there are some long worms, but they are only long and thin, there is nothing big in the deep.
HAJiME
...Giant squid hardly spend their time skimming the surface. And many whales dive deep.

I certainly didn't mean deep deep.

I think there are still medium sized animals to be found on land. So... Whatever.
Test Subject
Of course there are undiscovered species down there. The tsnumai a couple years ago washed up several that we didn't know about. Is there anything down there that would shock or amaze us, though? Tough to say. The colossal squid and colossal octopus would make a hell of a discovery, but we already know some things about those species (just google or wiki them).

The ocean is just like outer space. Vastly undiscovered, but so far little has shown us that there is anything in either that would be shocking or amazing. But it's fun to speculate because certainly there is enough area in each to have something we would consider unbelieveable.

To be honest the colossal squid is enough to make me excited about the unknown ocean. I believe in such beasts that blind whales with bioluminescense, wrap them up with their massive hook-covered tentacles, break their backs, and feast.
Cetacea
QUOTE(HAJiME @ Feb 20 2007, 04:46 PM) [snapback]1551257[/snapback]
...Giant squid hardly spend their time skimming the surface. And many whales dive deep.


however we knew about them before we actually saw them, so the chances of finding anything big we had no idea existed are rather slim. Most whales don't dive that deep or long either if they can avoid it, sperm whales and beaked whales being the exception, although sperm whales are actually outdown by elephant seals.
frogfish
This topic has been debated in other threads too. I have said time and time again that the deeper you go, the smaller animals get. Pressure gets very high at those depths, and food is limited. Most fish down there are no bigger than your hand. The pressure would squish big animals.

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The tsnumai a couple years ago washed up several that we didn't know about.

Actually, those fish weren't washed up by the tsunami. A tsunami is a surface wave. It was just an urban legend. Most of those fish were either found or discovered in other expeditions. Many were chimareas and rattails.

Celumnaz
wonder if the navy and the submarine guys have info about the deep they're not sharing
I won't be supprised when something "too large to be able to survive" down there is found down there.
Ghost Ship
Down in the ocean depths theres bound to be some interesting finds such as meteorites and shipwrecks. As well, there may be an (Abyss) kind of civilization wating to destroy us with a massive tidal wave if us land dwellers don't get our act together. There must be countless treasures that have sunk since the first boat was built. Its amazing to think what might be down there.

Mattshark
QUOTE(Dark_Ambient @ Feb 22 2007, 02:50 PM) [snapback]1553831[/snapback]
Down in the ocean depths theres bound to be some interesting finds such as meteorites and shipwrecks. As well, there may be an (Abyss) kind of civilization wating to destroy us with a massive tidal wave if us land dwellers don't get our act together. There must be countless treasures that have sunk since the first boat was built. Its amazing to think what might be down there.

Learn about pressure, these things are not down there. Really
No large animals can survive because there is nothing to eat, nothing with a backbone can be big, because it will crack.
frogfish
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As well, there may be an (Abyss) kind of civilization wating to destroy us with a massive tidal wave if

Uhhhh, no.
Ghost Ship
Why are you two here on unexplained mysteries. It sounds like you should be on 'science is the only way to go' forum or something. Dont you two believe that something may exist outside of ourselves? Where is your sence of wonder and awe? Your desire to believe in the idea that there might be something else out there? Do you even believe in the paranormal?
frogfish
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Where is your sence of wonder and awe? Your desire to believe in the idea that there might be something else out there?

We have it, and we use science to explore the world. Science is NOT an ideology, it is a technique!

Sorry, but common sense, logic, and science doesn't support a underwater civilization that could destroy us with a tsunami tongue.gif
Ghost Ship
I wasn't strongly supporting the underwater civilization thing. Perhaps i should have left the Abyss part out.

Theres more Scully's here on UM then Mulders. whistling2.gif
Cetacea
QUOTE(Dark_Ambient @ Feb 22 2007, 04:39 PM) [snapback]1553941[/snapback]
Why are you two here on unexplained mysteries. It sounds like you should be on 'science is the only way to go' forum or something. Dont you two believe that something may exist outside of ourselves? Where is your sence of wonder and awe? Your desire to believe in the idea that there might be something else out there? Do you even believe in the paranormal?


Ah, but you happen to be in the science section of the unexplained mysteries forum. The job of science is to explain unexplained mysteries in the natural world using scientific method, it is there to answer questions, you see how it fits in wink2.gif ?
Ghost Ship
Yes your right and i appologize. In my defence this is my very first time writing in the forums. I'll pay more attention next time.
Vague
We've only discovered 2% of our ocean? That's incredible.

I find it strange how there used to be so many sea monster sightings before ships were powered by loud engines happy.gif
Raptor
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We've only discovered 2% of our ocean? That's incredible.


It's also incredibly misleading. I don't know how that figure was ever calculated (if anyone knows I'd love to hear), it's probably only based on the regions of the seabed that have been extensively mapped, but what ever the case; we still know a lot about the ocean.
frogfish
A heck more than 2% yes.gif
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