remoteplanet
Feb 21 2007, 03:01 PM
Hi everyone! As some of you may know, children from around the world, mostly in cultures where reincarnation is a key belief, have recalled what they say are their past life. Researchers have been studying this for some time, and have been able to correlate what the children claim to actual people who had lived. The details can be astonishing, but for every step forward, there are great challenges in verifying things. Some great books have been published on the topic.
This week on the *Edit*, I recognize the work and life of Dr. Ian Stevenson, a psychiatrist and physician who has travelled extensively collecting evidence on reincarnation, in particular children remembering past lives. Dr. Stevenson died at the age of 88 on Feb. 8, but his legacy certainly continues as the University of Virginia maintains a department studying paranormal topics and many researchers around the world continue to interview children with strange recollections of what may have been the life they lived previously.
*Edit* to read.
So what do you think? Are children remembering past lives? Or is it another type of phenomena?
cheers!
Chris
Argueta
Feb 22 2007, 04:41 PM
Well, personally, I never believed in the immortal soul. My aunt strongly does. Her 5 yr old frequently entertains us by telling us amazing stories about her past lives. In one life, she lived in a bubble under the ocean... When she was three yrs old her mother asked her why she came early (she was a premie) The little girl said that there were "little black buggies in there and she wanted to get out" In fact, the doctors said it was a very good thing that she was born premature because the placenta had started to deteiroate and break up. You make of that what you will.
It's amazing what people can know about people that lived long ago. I've seen people tell detailed stories, later verified, about their past lives. But hundreds of people have claimed to be jesus in a past life. Can that many souls inhabit one person? Or can jesus's one soul inhabit that many people? when comparing the life of jesus to Egypt's Horus, it's reasonable to think that Jesus didn't even exist. The legend was barrowed from Egyptian lore. So could those people really have been Jesus long ago? There are equal amonts of evidence for both the believers and the skeptics.
ps, didn't mean to step on any toes with the Jesus stuff
Purplos
Feb 22 2007, 05:29 PM
My son, up until about the age of 5 (he's 9 now) told us all the time about who he was in a past life (happened to be my maternal grandfather) and even identified himself as the grandfather's name when he was younger ("No, my name is NOT "E"(his name now)! My name is Paul! (my grandfather's name). My grandfather, who died before I was born, was never talked about in the home at all.
I believe in reincarnation anyway, but this was cool to experience.
BellonaFern
Feb 22 2007, 06:28 PM
I remember that I was an orphan boy in a past life. Died by falling off a two-story-high caffe railing he was sitting on because the cook yelled at him and he was supprised.
Another one of my past lives (also a boy) had stolen something and was running from a set of bulldogs. He vaulted a high wire fence and landed on his head.
remoteplanet
Feb 22 2007, 06:46 PM
Great post, Argueta - thanks! No doubt for all of each case that is truly inexplicable, there are a whole heck of a lot of them that are quite far-fetched.
Chris
MoonPrincess
Feb 22 2007, 07:01 PM
I believe in past lives. I've started to remember one past life when I was 13. I was in the high in life like noblity & I was in love then died. I died when I was 22.
I remember being one of the Cleopatras. Lived twice in Ancient Egypt, a few times in Japan. One in Federal Japan & one in the 60's. I got run over & died at the hospital days later. Three of my past lives, I was with the same man. Out of all my past lives, I've died young. The youngest was 5.
xohxcdancing
Feb 22 2007, 07:08 PM
I believe this to be very true. My little brother says things that make me think he was in one of the World Trade Centers. Hes terrified of heights, scared of planes, and hates anything to do with fire. Its quite creepy to say the least. He was born 3 days after 9/11. My stepmom went into labor on 9/11. Just a thought for you all.=]]
MoonPrincess
Feb 22 2007, 07:12 PM
Freaky. >.< Sometimes past lives can affect your current life. Like me & Japan. I LOVE Japan, because I've had three past lives there. Different times.
DukeofNoodleness
Feb 22 2007, 08:48 PM
Up until the age of 10 I thought I was a native american. I'm not sure if this was a past life viewing or just a wild imagination though

Mind you, I do belive that the energy from a human being can go on to fuel energy in those newly born. This is my view of past lives and reincarnation. Energy cannot be destroyed...so part of this theory is quite logical.
f3liC
Feb 23 2007, 03:11 AM
there was the russian boy who is suppsoe to be from another planet (maybe this is false?
http://www.paranormalnews.com/article.asp?ArticleID=976) and the boy who is believe to be a reincarnation of buddha....
i wonder if what they say is really true but who i am to say otherwise...
Ashlii__x
Feb 23 2007, 04:13 AM
Im scared of yachts, not really any other kind of boat, just yachts maybe a past life experiance?
=Jak=
Feb 23 2007, 04:29 AM
Unexplained mysteries happens... what we need is time to understand that.
MoonPrincess
Feb 23 2007, 07:36 PM
QUOTE(f3liC @ Feb 22 2007, 10:11 PM) [snapback]1554689[/snapback]
there was the russian boy who is suppsoe to be from another planet (maybe this is false?
http://www.paranormalnews.com/article.asp?ArticleID=976) and the boy who is believe to be a reincarnation of buddha....
i wonder if what they say is really true but who i am to say otherwise...
Interesting. But the link isn't working. I wanted to read it.
SurvivalChuck
Feb 23 2007, 07:58 PM
Thanks OP for the info on Dr. Ian Stevenson. I had a conversation with some co-workers the other night about beliefs and some found it weird that I believe in reincarnation yet I'm an athiest. I don't like having blind faith and glad I have more info to go on about reincarnation from a reputable source such as Dr. Stevenson.
f3liC
Feb 23 2007, 08:40 PM
sorry there are many sites listing the same article (i don't know where the original source is)
but heres another one
http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377...57_Martian.htmlif you google up Boriska boy, you should be able to find something though
MoonPrincess
Feb 23 2007, 10:11 PM
Thanks for the link, f3liC.
Thanks for that tip.
remoteplanet
Feb 24 2007, 02:43 AM
QUOTE(ChrisV @ Feb 23 2007, 02:58 PM) [snapback]1555560[/snapback]
Thanks OP for the info on Dr. Ian Stevenson. I had a conversation with some co-workers the other night about beliefs and some found it weird that I believe in reincarnation yet I'm an athiest. I don't like having blind faith and glad I have more info to go on about reincarnation from a reputable source such as Dr. Stevenson.
Cheers, Chris. It is pretty fascinating when a widespread concept such as reincarnation is given attention by people who truly understand the workings of human behaviour and thought. Dr. Stevenson certainly felt there was validity to what people were experiencing, and that openness to what
could be opens doors for understanding what possibly
is. I don't find it strange that you would believe in reincarnation although you are an athiest. After all, if reincarnation existed, wouldn't it be part of "nature"?
Chris
nativechick1989
Feb 24 2007, 07:14 AM
I believe in past lives .. Children who recall 'memories' of a past life, have a fresh memory, their ability to recall such memories is still fresh. Before memories of their current life take hold on their mind ...... repressed memories.
glorybebe
Feb 24 2007, 08:14 PM
QUOTE(f3liC @ Feb 23 2007, 08:40 PM) [snapback]1555594[/snapback]
sorry there are many sites listing the same article (i don't know where the original source is)
but heres another one
http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377...57_Martian.htmlif you google up Boriska boy, you should be able to find something though
I have always believed in reincarnation, but I also believed that there was intelligent life on other planets. I even talked to my sister about this, because it was the one thing that made me question my beliefs. Now I'm not saying that this report is absolutely refutable, BUT, if it is true....well, quite interesting to consider.
f3liC
Feb 25 2007, 08:02 AM
well... if what this boy says is correct, someone should get permission and start drilling =)
BellonaFern
Feb 25 2007, 09:16 AM
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well... if what this boy says is correct, someone should get permission and start drilling =)
No offence, but didn't he say that it was on Mars? Aren't there noxious fumes surrounding the entire planet?
Please Explain
Feb 25 2007, 11:17 AM
I personally believed i wasn't born in this planet yet.
I feel i'm from a distant star or from heaven.
I might be a fallen angel.
glorybebe
Feb 25 2007, 10:16 PM
QUOTE(BellonaFern @ Feb 25 2007, 09:16 AM) [snapback]1557398[/snapback]
No offence, but didn't he say that it was on Mars? Aren't there noxious fumes surrounding the entire planet?
Maybe I'm wrong, but from what I got from the article is that he was alive on Mars before their civilization ended. I thought he said it was all gone now.
He then started talking about high intellect of the Lemurians…
-But Lemuria ceased to exist minimum 800 000 years ago…, I uttered in response to his statements. Lemurians were 9 meters tall! Is that so? How can you remember all this?
-I do remember, replied the boy. Now, I'm not saying this is true, but, it would be fantastic if it was.
Nephthys
Feb 26 2007, 02:54 AM
*Nods* Evening, I'm a complete newbie here, but I really felt the need to schwing by.
I don't know what I believe. I know over time though, my beliefs have changed. I find it hard to believe in reincarnation, purely because no one was ever ... a regular housewife in the 60's who got married and never made an impact on anything. The stories I always seem to hear about, are people who were Tutenkhamun, Mary of Scots, or were fighting for womens rights etc etc. No one was ever Joe Bloggs from number 74. Well, you get the idea. Saying that though...
I remember when I was little (well, litter), having vivid dreams, both day dreams and otherwise about being in a small, cobbled townhouse, in a long flowing green dress. I remember a big open fire place in the kitchen, and a bath tub right infront of it. I remember boiling water and pouring it into the tub. I then remember getting a message from someone, that someone I knew had run away, and I remember running into the street, which was also cobbled, and sort of like a market, and looking frantically for this person. But... thats pretty much it. I don't remember too much, but I remember when I was about 9 or 10, it was a frequant dream I had, virtually every night for a year. And yes, it was literally just that snippet.
I also remember, (okay possibly slightly off topic), but when I was about 7, being scared of going to the bathroom by myself, not because of the darkness, or anything. But I used to genuinely think that when I opened the door to the bathroom that there would be a photographer there! Strange, I know. But surprisingly scary to imagine a tall, dark haired man in a long tweed coat flashing a camera at you on leaving the bathroom! (Being a photographer myself, I can confirm the camera he was holding was a Box Brownie cira. 1920, ish). A psychic then told me that it was a reflection of my past life, and insinuated I was Maralyn Monroe. ¬_¬. Which, judging by my unglamourous looks and distinctly hippy ways I'm disenclined to believe.
Oh ! But I do have her mole....
ShadowLady
Feb 26 2007, 05:48 PM
In 1957, in Hexham, Northumberland, Joanna and Jacqueline Pollack were struck and killed by a car along with their friend Anthony Layden. Shortly afterwards, twins were born to their parents. They seemed to be their dead daughters in new bodies. According to their father, as toddlers they constantly 'remembered' living as their late sisters. One of the twins, Jennifer, bore the identical scars and birthmarks to those of her dead sister, Jacqueline.
When the twins were 4 months old, the family moved away. The twins did not retun until three years later on a day excursion. Both twins recognized mot only the house they lived in when they were infants, but they also recognized the school that Joanna and Jacqueline attended.
About a year after this incident, their father, John, took out some dolls that had belonged to Joanna and Jacqueline which had been hidden away since their deaths. when Jennifer saw them, she replied "Oh, that's Mary. and this is my Susan. I haven't seen her for a long time." These were the very same names that Joanna and Jacqueline had called them.
glorybebe
Feb 26 2007, 07:30 PM
QUOTE(ShadowLady @ Feb 26 2007, 05:48 PM) [snapback]1558967[/snapback]
In 1957, in Hexham, Northumberland, Joanna and Jacqueline Pollack were struck and killed by a car along with their friend Anthony Layden. Shortly afterwards, twins were born to their parents. They seemed to be their dead daughters in new bodies. According to their father, as toddlers they constantly 'remembered' living as their late sisters. One of the twins, Jennifer, bore the identical scars and birthmarks to those of her dead sister, Jacqueline.
When the twins were 4 months old, the family moved away. The twins did not retun until three years later on a day excursion. Both twins recognized mot only the house they lived in when they were infants, but they also recognized the school that Joanna and Jacqueline attended.
About a year after this incident, their father, John, took out some dolls that had belonged to Joanna and Jacqueline which had been hidden away since their deaths. when Jennifer saw them, she replied "Oh, that's Mary. and this is my Susan. I haven't seen her for a long time." These were the very same names that Joanna and Jacqueline had called them.
What made me a believer was a dream I had about ten years ago. I woke up walking in a castle, I tripped because I was incredibly short, and my strides were off (I am 5'9") and I put my hand on the wall, I felt the stone and recognized the hand yet, it was not my current hand. I had blond hair draped over one shoulder (I have auburn hair). I walked up the stairs and found my room. The whole time I was thinking this is incredibly strange. It was like I vaguely remembered this but, not any details about the person I was in. I crawled in bed and there was a storm outside, three or four girls came screaming into my room because they were afraid of the lightning, but it seemed like they just wanted a reason to crawl in bed with me. I remember thinking that I didn't want to say anything, in case I said the wrong thing and got "her" in trouble.
I'm not saying this was a for sure remembering, but it was incredibly vivid and to this day I remember that dream
Isis2200
Feb 27 2007, 01:12 AM
QUOTE(remoteplanet @ Feb 21 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]1552454[/snapback]
So what do you think? Are children remembering past lives? Or is it another type of phenomena?
Oh yeah, I believe they're remembering past lives because of things they say that at that age they couldn't have known. I've just heard so many accounts for it to not be true.
I heard of a case recently where there was a 4-year-old girl who always changed the channel to the Spanish station although she couldn't understand Spanish and none of her relatives were Spanish and spoke Spanish. She would go outside and bring home any animal she could find. One day she went to a museum with her mom and she saw a particular bird and she said "Mommy, those are the same birds they have in Mexico." The curator confirmed that this particular kind of animal was native to Mexico.
After the young girl was taken to a psychic, the psychic confirmed that the girl had a past life in Mexico where she lived on a ranch with lots of animals. I think this is amazing!
gabrielssword
Feb 28 2007, 02:30 PM
Okay this might sound phony and kiddish and weird but here's what I er...
believe or whatever.
I was around fourteen when I started reading about Holocaust. I read everything I could lay my hands on. From Exodus [novel] to articles of the net. From Anne Frank's Dairy to weird pages filled skinny ghoulish people not yet dead but dead already.. My heart was caught somehwere in between the pain and horror inflicted on the bodies and souls of 6 million people. I was obsessed with the Holocaust, the Jews, The Jewish Nation of Israel and Zionism.
I read all books I could find on Israel. I studied the history of hebrews, their migration to europe and others places, their lamentation for israel and in a nutshell I was obsessed with hebrews, I still am.
Now, I didnt get any snatches of past life. Ever. No dreams of being pushed into chamber full of poisonous gas not any dream about an exodus... I cant remember being a hebrew goat herder and I dont remeber being a jewish sabra. Zilch I dont remeber no nothing.
Then came the time I grew obsessed with the Holy Grail, The Grail Conquest, The Templars, Cathars and everything remotely connected to the Grail Consipracy. I even tried reading the gnostic texts on the net. This time around I was obsessed with Jesus Christ and had developed this theory about him NOT being a carpenter's son but his being a royalty [hebrew prince] who gave up his princliness for the emanicaption of the hebrew people.
*sigh* Im not going to write the whole thing here. I have a history of being dogged by religious nuts and Im not here to hurt any sentiments.
Now Im coming to the point.
I have this obsession with a hebrew princess. And I *
wonder* NOT *
know* that I was one. I have no past memories and I havent a clue. In fact I am planning a hypnosis session for regression this summer and lets see what I get out of it. Whether it was a case of a kid conditioning her mind through the years or whether there is a genuine twig of reason and fact as to why I am so obsessed with the above..
In either case, I'm happy. Im gonna get regressed and if something I have expected comes out of it, Im gonna be happy. If not, and If Im a nobody in my past lives, a beggar, a farm worker, Im equally happy. What truly has me elated is a fact that in either case, I shall have been forever.
I was forever.
Now thats a powerful feeling, isnt it?
glorybebe
Mar 6 2007, 12:58 AM
QUOTE(gabrielssword @ Feb 28 2007, 02:30 PM) [snapback]1561755[/snapback]
Okay this might sound phony and kiddish and weird but here's what I er...
believe or whatever.
I was around fourteen when I started reading about Holocaust. I read everything I could lay my hands on. From Exodus [novel] to articles of the net. From Anne Frank's Dairy to weird pages filled skinny ghoulish people not yet dead but dead already.. My heart was caught somehwere in between the pain and horror inflicted on the bodies and souls of 6 million people. I was obsessed with the Holocaust, the Jews, The Jewish Nation of Israel and Zionism.
I read all books I could find on Israel. I studied the history of hebrews, their migration to europe and others places, their lamentation for israel and in a nutshell I was obsessed with hebrews, I still am.
Now, I didnt get any snatches of past life. Ever. No dreams of being pushed into chamber full of poisonous gas not any dream about an exodus... I cant remember being a hebrew goat herder and I dont remeber being a jewish sabra. Zilch I dont remeber no nothing.
Then came the time I grew obsessed with the Holy Grail, The Grail Conquest, The Templars, Cathars and everything remotely connected to the Grail Consipracy. I even tried reading the gnostic texts on the net. This time around I was obsessed with Jesus Christ and had developed this theory about him NOT being a carpenter's son but his being a royalty [hebrew prince] who gave up his princliness for the emanicaption of the hebrew people.
*sigh* Im not going to write the whole thing here. I have a history of being dogged by religious nuts and Im not here to hurt any sentiments.
Now Im coming to the point.
I have this obsession with a hebrew princess. And I *
wonder* NOT *
know* that I was one. I have no past memories and I havent a clue. In fact I am planning a hypnosis session for regression this summer and lets see what I get out of it. Whether it was a case of a kid conditioning her mind through the years or whether there is a genuine twig of reason and fact as to why I am so obsessed with the above..
In either case, I'm happy. Im gonna get regressed and if something I have expected comes out of it, Im gonna be happy. If not, and If Im a nobody in my past lives, a beggar, a farm worker, Im equally happy. What truly has me elated is a fact that in either case, I shall have been forever.
I was forever.
Now thats a powerful feeling, isnt it?

I read before that when we find certain time periods fascinating, we had most likely lived in that time. When I was younger, I couldn't get enough of Greek and Roman mythology and history. Pirates( long before POC) always intersted me. Vikings also drew me in, but that could be because I am Scandinavian. I think it is a great possibility that you were alive during those times.
gabrielssword
Mar 7 2007, 01:08 AM
QUOTE(glorybebe @ Mar 6 2007, 12:58 AM) [snapback]1569393[/snapback]
I read before that when we find certain time periods fascinating, we had most likely lived in that time. When I was younger, I couldn't get enough of Greek and Roman mythology and history. Pirates( long before POC) always intersted me. Vikings also drew me in, but that could be because I am Scandinavian. I think it is a great possibility that you were alive during those times.
Glorybebe.. I hope youre right! Lets waits and see what the truth really is!
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