Hi i am Dillon and i've been lurking these forums for some time now.Nothing that interesting ever really happens to me or nothing has really gave me the feeling as the dream that i have been haveing for the passt three nights. It starts with me running down this long hall with dirt floors and walls.kind of like a cave i guess.There are torches lighting the way down.I can never see myself in the dream just through my eyes you know.Well anyway i get to this big wooden door and push it in.Once i enter i see this man screaming in pain.He was hooked high up on the wall im not sure how.But there was barbed wire around his neck,waist,wrists,and ankles.Hes covered in blood then he looks right at me like he was relieved to see i was there and he called out the name FATHER MACDIARMID hince the name.I always wake up at that part and always at the same time 3:45am.


It could mean nothing but i'e got a strong feeling about it.I googled the name and details and found nothing.Im not sure if im spelling the name wrong or not i just spelled it the way it sounds.So if anybody knows anything about a father macdiarmid or a person being tortured with barbed wire around them that would help.or just advice on what you think it might mean would help,even if you think i just watch to much tv lol.Im going to try to go to sleep the same time i did last night so maybe i can have the dream again and actually finish it.I'll update if and when i can.thank you in advance

Usually repetitive dreams are just about unresolved issues. Solve the unresolved issue and you'll stop having the dream.

Good luck.

OK here are a few things I found searching Mcdiarmid as well as Mcdiarmid barbed wire. Don't know if it helps but maybe.

http://www.rootsweb.com/~onlanark/Newspape...encer/WW1_4.htm

http://writersalmanac.publicradio.org/prog...8/07/index.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_McDiarmid

Plenty more if you Google it.

Thx guys i gonna look at what you founf now and also look within myself to se if i have any unsolved issues.

I find it interesting that H. J. McDiarmid was a reverand. I also have a similar dream, I'm running down a stone hallway with torches on either side, and I can't see the end. I'm always turning around like I'm running from someone, but I'm not scared. And then I wake up. It's very interesting the similarities.
I personally don't feel that it has anything to do with unresolved issues. Because if it does...then I guess I had unresolved issues when I was 4 untill I was 6 because I had the same dream everynight. I feel that that dream was because of the house that we were living in at the time. If you believe in past lives, then maybe there's something to that.

I agree.If I had the dream again last night I dont remember,but the interesting thing is that I woke up at 3:45 again and i couldnt get back to sleep.Maybe I'm reading to much into but if im not I'd really like to know who Father Macdiarmid is.

It sounds as if you were a shamen{priest} during one of the many inquistions the religious had, to purge those who spoke out against them and their docterine. You were eliminating him, and from his reaction and response, it sounds as if you were playing the good guy role through his torture, to get whatever information they{you} wanted.

Well, i can't say i've never done worse myself in other scenario's. Though usually i am tortureing and eliminating the shamens{priests} for crimes against humanity.

Hello Dillon.
To try to help yourself solve this think about these questions. Don't think about them too much but what does your instinct tell you the answer is.
When do you feel that your dream takes place? Past, present or future?
Think of the dreams surrounding, where do you think that this is happening? Somewhere near or faraway.
Why is this man being tortured?
Why is your presence to him such a relief?
Before you go to sleep this evening keep telling yourself to have the dream again; that you will be able to stay in the dream, ask questions of the man and yourself plus you will be given the answers.
Also keep a notebook and pen/pencil by your bed so that you can jot your dreams down as soon as you wake and they are fresh in your memory. A dream journal is an insightful thing to keep.

It will be interesting to know what comes of this. Warm regards, Mabon.

I Tried so hard to think of the dream before I went to sleep I even wrote in down until I got tired,but I cant remember my dream.Yet i still wake up at 3:45 on the dot.Its driving me nuts.Any tips would be helpful.This thread will probably die pretty soon so if i have the dream again and finish or even if i can remember more about it i'll start a new thread.Thanks for your help guys.

Hello again.

Keep trying it's going to take some time for it to happen. (Going back to the same dream and being able to interact with it.) Even if you can't you took an active stance by looking for a person named in your dream. That's a great place to start, maybe try some variations on the spelling and see if that helps. You can ask yourself the same questions while awake but don't over think them. Just go with your instinct.
3:45
http://www.sleepdisorderchannel.com/stages/
A link to sleep patterns. Disorders etc.
Warm regards, Mabon.

It was a moment in time where you realized the evil of religion and what it does to the innocent. Kind of gives new meaning to what is happening here don't you think? This scenario is to make you realize that however you may change their message{to one of peace} it still has similioar effects on other people. And is wrong.

Well children can have unresolved issues just as adults can. It's just a common belief among dream theorists and my personal opinion at that.

Ok i woke up at 3:45 again last night and I still couldnt remember my dream but these letters popped into my heas so i wrote them down in the order they came to me:

IIIIIIEEEEEEEEDDDLLLLLKMHNHTHCSHHTWTNANGRPFWYMKH

So i definatley see kill/killed/die/died/pregnant but thats all i could make out.Im trying to find a sentence but im just not good at stuff like this at all so if I can get some puzzle crackers in here that would be greatly appreciated.I was starting to think that I just had a weird dream(and that may still be the case)but now im thinking this is something that I need to figure out.

Thx in advance..Again

The one's who control this place distort any such messages to yourself, which is what is happening here. The same reason why some people go mad, or seem to. It's because the generaters don't want that communication to happen, as you would see the lie of life here.

be careful with this...3:45 am is a key.

randomhit10

Wow kinda weird, one of my friends last name is Macdiarmid; and her father is a preist, I cant introduce you guys via web to discuss.

That is interesting,and thx for the tips guys.I still cant get a sentence out of it.I guess im a little slow which is why im not sure i understand what your trying to say canna.Maybe you can break it down for me.

In the past, the one's who work for the parasites, would kill another for what some say is speaking in tongues. When the real you trys to send a warning verbally, it is garbled. The same as if you wrote the same thing, it does'nt make sense, and the shamens{priests, ministers, etc...} were quick to ponce, because some of them actually know what was going on, they did'nt wish for the truth to come out, so they accused them of either being a demon, or being in control of one, which meant of course, a death sentence{been through it}

You tried to write what you heard. Was it exact like you posted, and the garble is what came out of it, or did it say something else from what you heard, and came out garbled. Whatever you say to anyone else, it will be garbled.

The latter,So if we can make sense out of these letters will something happen or will it just be reavealing a secret?

It could be you telling you your an idiot, and would you please just put yourself out of your misery. Some are so despondant and tragic in their humour, they have reason to be. Because you are the one, the last scenario character of yourself. The sum total of all their{you} combined knowledge. Trapped in what, for human, is about the least able you can be generally{and ugly}, then any other before you. And you keep cycling. Until you figure it out.

The pain inflicted on them is great when they try{picture sitting in the bathroom, and all of a sudden your crisping to black, with full agony} That got tiresome, and the pratice halted. There are things you can do to communicate with them, without activating security measures. It would be simple as i do it, yet you must break through the levels of illusion that are those security measures{for they are not real, believe it} It is set up so the other aspects of you can help you{self}, though the parameters are narrow{walk the narrow path} and the security may be setting you up, you must continue to try.

That narrow path is self, you want it, go get it. If you don't, you will rot here, cycling.

There is nothing remotely religious about this, But i was forced to relearn the hard way. When you think your a god, you rule nothing, starting with yourself.
Thats the secret. Self. Escape.

Having said all that, is'nt there just a few pointers out there in the scenario's "reality"

Hi Dillon aka Father Nemeas Mactarmayt :-)

The reason I say aka is because I believe you could be dreaming of a past life. I believe it's important to pay attention to recurring dreams because I believe they could be about past lives.

To date the earliest record of the surname Macdiarmid yet traced is Mactarmayt. He was Scottish Father Nemeas Mactarmayt of St. Conganus de Dnybrinis (Durinish) and afterwards vicar of Kilchoman in Islay in 1427 --Scotland. It could be that in your dream you came to rescue someone who was being torchered.
http://home.comcast.net/~ccsreg1/septs.html#MacDiarmid

I hope this has been helpful.

Thank you Isis and caana you've been very helpful.I think i'll take a break(hopefully i can have a full nights sleep)for a couple of days because this is really starting to take a toll on me. If something else interesting happens ill let you guys know and i'll check out your link Isis. Talk to you later everybody.
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Hello everyone.
Hello Dillon, There have been interesting developments in your dreams as I see from your posts. I do tend to agree with Isis2200 that you might be having a past life dream but didn't want to state that in my earlier posts so as not to influence you. That was why I asked you to ask yourself the list of questions: when, where, why were you there etc.

"Hi i am Dillon and i've been lurking these forums for some time now.Nothing that interesting ever really happens to me or nothing has really gave me the feeling as the dream that i have been haveing for the passt three nights. It starts with me running down this long hall with dirt floors and walls.kind of like a cave i guess.There are torches lighting the way down.I can never see myself in the dream just through my eyes you know.Well anyway i get to this big wooden door and push it in.Once i enter i see this man screaming in pain.He was hooked high up on the wall im not sure how.But there was barbed wire around his neck,waist,wrists,and ankles.Hes covered in blood then he looks right at me like he was relieved to see i was there and he called out the name FATHER MACDIARMID hince the name.I always wake up at that part and always at the same time 3:45am.
It could mean nothing but i'e got a strong feeling about it.I googled the name and details and found nothing.Im not sure if im spelling the name wrong or not i just spelled it the way it sounds.So if anybody knows anything about a father macdiarmid or a person being tortured with barbed wire around them that would help."
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I quoted and reposted your account of the dream to examine it with in depth with you.
The strong feelings you were getting were the first clue that this wasn't an ordinary dream, vs an ordinary one where the mind just blows off the clutter of the day. The second clue is that it repeats.
The torches, describe them in depth if you can. What type were they how did they look? This may help you get a time line on the dream and when in history to search for a clergyman of that same name.
Barbed wire is another important clue of when, http://www.antiquebarbedwiresociety.com/historical.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbed_wire http://www.barbwiremuseum.com/barbedwirehistory.htm these sites tell the history of the invention of barbed wire.

You can never see yourself in the dream. OK, this statement really caught my attention. The dreams that I have that I can never see myself, feel ghostly in or (more personally troubling) feel that I'm in someone else's body are the ones that I call 'body hopping'. It might be another way of saying OBE (out of body experience) but..... they feel different. OBE don't always have to be blissful I realize, but these type of dreams/experiences (like the one you describe) are more troubling and have very urgent and/or violent overtones. The sense of urgency is frustrating because the dreams don't always give enough detail of where/when that is.
[/i] The problem (as I see it) is when not to mention who. Were you Father Macdairmed in a past life or were you (for lack of a better word) tagging along with FM to have/share the experience. It seems strange to do so but if you consider that you were tagging along, you might have been there to help Father M have the courage to get there and once he is there your services are no longer needed (so to speak). Or it may be helping you with your courage to face a difficult task.
The words that you wrote down but were unable to read may be that the language was foreign to you, simply another language. The name Macdairmed is Scottish or Irish so you might have been hearing Gallic or Latin or another language. You understanding them but not being able to read them wouldn't be out of the question because you would get the feeling of their thoughts not the words spoken.
Now 3:45 here is the oddest coincidence, my dreams of this kind cause me to wake up at the exact same time. I don't know why. I have looked for years for an answer for this question myself. The link I gave you on dream cycles is that REM gets longer and stronger during the course of a night. People have a better chance of remembering their dreams if their sleep cycle is disrupted. (we remember dreams from cat naps better than the ones we have every night) I'll keep looking because I want an answer for that one myself. Hope this helps! Warm regards, Mabon.

Thank you so much Mabon its starting to make sense.If I remember correctly the torches were brass maybe,I have to go right now ill come back later.

Ok what I wanted to finish say is that I know now for sure that the feeling I felt in my dream was extreme guilt,I dont know why but when I read Mabon's post it came to me.Im still trying to find some one who can unscramble the letter if they mean anything.

I always had repetitive dreams when i was younger.

1. I was always upstairs and trying to get downstairs, as i'm about to walk down lights are flashing like a part, confetti and decorations everywhere. And there are teddy bears partying. But they are lethal, like trying to kill me (weird). They give me a choice, i either jump the whole stairs in one and i succeed, or jump down in 3 steps and succeed. Each time i've had this i have had a different choice, but never passed. They send me half way up the stairs and i look over my stairs. Everything goes black and i just see a devils face, and he talks crap.

2. I'm in a park of some kind but everyone like ground, sky, walls are white. Apart from the fence around the park, and the swings, slides ect. People are playing in there and i try to get out. But there is always someone stopping my from getting out standing in the way of the gate.

Any thoughts?

Hello everyone.
Goodness, who was it that came up with the idea that a teddy bear picnic was a good thing? (*makes small joke* sorry couldn't resist. *smacks own hand*)
Hello Y2Kyle, to me your dreams are puzzle solving dreams. These are different from Dillion's dream in that they seem to be about you at the time the dreams occur. The first dream about the teddy bears the setting is a house. Commonly houses in dreams pertain to the self. (even if you don't know the house it's still you.) Levels or floors of the house are the parts of the conscious mind stairs are the connections to those parts. So this dream to me is about descending into the subconscious but you were blocked by the teddy bears who challenged you. The devil here to me represents the suppressed hidden knowledge. Loki, (Norse tradition) Coyote, (Native American tradition) and even the serpent (Christian teaching) brought knowledge. These aspects all reflect tricksters they reveal knowledge but the knowledge you get you might not want. another words it comes with a price. Sure you get the answers but might not be happy with the answer. Fire was one of the things that Loki and Coyote both gave to mankind. Fire if controlled is a great thing, it illuminates the dark warms but if it isn't controlled can burn and destroy. It's not the knowledge itself but how you handle it..
2 the second dream the block comes from the outside. Everyone else seemed to be enjoying where they were but you and you wanted to leave the whitewashed park but you were blocked. Could be at that time you wanted to change something in you life but felt blocked by tradition. Hope this helps and is just my two cents. Warm regards.


Hello Dillion, I hope that you are doing better with your dream/s. I don't know if I would over analysis the letters that you wrote down, as I posted earlier unless you know the language that they are in it's going to be difficult to know what they mean. Go for understanding the intention of the words rather than the words themselves. Another words don't worry so much. I know that dreams like these are very frustrating! Hang in there. Warm regards, Mabon.

You pointed out some good things there, these were are while ago, i was getting annoyed with them. Had it for like 2 years. Thank for that. I know they sound weird, but im a weird person

Y2Kyle, you are welcome!

Dream symbols are weird but that is what makes them so interesting to me. It's like cracking an ancient language. Our minds never switch off when we sleep so the brain is always working; clearing away clutter and processing information. It's the glitches that usually make us remember our dreams; we get woke up, we wake ourselves up or the imagery is so strong that we remember it. The ones that are hard to shake when we wake up or linger with us for a few minutes or affect our whole day depends on how hard the individual is trying to get their own attention. IMO
Our minds are amazing and what we can do with them is too. We take in everything we see; hear, feel, touch, touch and taste but filter out and focus on a tiny portion of all that information. When we shut down to sleep we have access to it all and process it all, that is how some people are able to make great leaps of logic while sleeping. Puzzle solving.
Yet there are 'dreams' that seem to do more than just puzzle solving. They seem to have access to information that they couldn't have. Did the dreamer in those really take in the information or did they 'link' to it in a yet unexplained fashion? That's a good one and no one has proven conclusively whether it's true or not. For myself I happen to believe that our minds are more complex and that we can access or link to more information while we sleep or meditate. I believe that it is possible I have had experiences like those myself and found out later that what I saw in my dream did indeed take place to someone else......... so you think that your weird. LOL

We don't realise our brains full potential. You can be the smartest in the world, i believe we can use telepathy etc. But you just need to find a way to unlock that skill in your brain.

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IIIIIIEEEEEEEEDDDLLLLLKMHNHTHCSHHTWTNANGRPFWYMKH

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Dillon, I hadn't added another reason to not worry too much at present about the list of letters.
The problem of trying to make words or sentences out of this is that it is so difficult to know if it is the right course of action to take. Yes, you can get: kill, shaft, want, wants, went, pie, pill, pant, pea, med, prank, heed, the, then, tang, rant, went, pent, ink, pad, pink, men, mink, nab, anger etc. but they are useless out of context. (I don't want to sound harsh about that but I hope you see what I mean.) I wouldn't want to retrofit them into a pattern. Even from the short list you could rearrange them to- went down the kill shaft - which fits into your dream but then you would have to drop words that don't fit the story like- the pink mink wants ink.
I do applaud you for doing that though and posting it. If you are inclined to write down those things as they come to you they may get clearer to you. Human speech starts out as gibberish and imitation but progresses toward speech. But just for now I would focus on the dream.


And I neglected to say earlier you are most welcome!
Warm regards, Mabon.

Thank you again Mabon you make a very good point.But I found this guy in a library who is suppose to be really good at puzzles and stuff and he got a very interesting sentence out of it:


He killed my wife pregnant with his child then he killed me.

It took him about 30 minutes,I'm not sure if it has anything to do with my dream are not,but it is a little creepy.

This could also be a spirit trying to relay a message

th anvil

Your story is twisted. You said you've been lurking these boards for awhile, yet you've only had this dream for the last five nights. Then how come your user name is "Father Macdiarmid"?

^^ Huh? What does the user name have to do with it?

Because I never joined until I started having the dream

Hi Y2Kyle:

When you said "People are playing in there", could you tell me exactly what you saw them doing? was it like playing a sport like basketball?

It think its an abstract or obscure subconscious message. When Im worrying about a class project or report, I would always have dreams that would have the feeling that I'm late. It would either be that I turned it in late, arrived somwhere late, or something that has to do with being late. I dunno about your case though, but at the subconscious level we can do wierd things.

Uh huh...then how can you have been lurking these boards so long? Oh well, I really don't care. I've been looking and I can't find anyway to show what this dream symbolizes, or means. And I don't believe in reincarnation.
Sorry that I can't help.

Hi there,
I felt the urge to help you understand your dream! First of all, I just want you to know that it is not a bad dream as you might be thinking. This dream is related to transformation and cleansing.
I'll get back to ya with an analysis of your dream. Do you have something else to add, have you seen new figures and symbols? For know, don't concentrate about the name, but think about how you feel about that name, also answer to yourself how a person bearing such name would be or think in real life; look into it and if you come uo with some ideas just let us know.

Blessings,
moonlight