HI ,

I have been reading about AP for a few years.....But I was never able to get very far untill I tried that 4:00 in the morning technique.
I have now done it 3 times but i don't get very far. I start to shake and then my legs jump and I wake up ( or come out of it )
I am sure I just need better focus and more practice.....
But , my question is has anyone out there tried to time travel or project in to the future...????? Is it possible..?????
Last year I read part of this book my old room mate had....It discussed the government experimenting with AP....
The results were not disclosed....But it did say that is was only possible to project 24 to 48 hours in to the future..
Has anyone heard abou abou this...???? Well I am going to keep trying.....

Well, I don't think you can go through an Astral Projection experience deliberately. It happens coincidentally.
Besides, you don't necessarily go forward in time. I don't think so. You just visit places you've never seen, and view things which are impossible to see from your current position.

I think that the forward astral projecting is a huge factor in the "deja vu" that many people experience. While most have not had a "deja vu" experience that is of any real significance, it may be interpreted as forward AP.

How can you travel to a future that might easily never happen? Though with practice you can experience scenes that seem futuristic.

While the difference between a lucid dream and an out of body experience is a subject of debate, I think you might find that the techniques for inducing lucid dreams would give you more mental self control, and so result in a more solid basis for later out of body attempts. Lucid-dreams can be willed into becoming (ersatz) astral projections fairly easily, and the practice from controlling dreams spills over into more skillful projection experiences.

Yet in the end, you yourself are the decider of the difference between unverified reality and illusion

Sooooo..Are you saying that you automatically project in to the future when you do it..????

I've heard from people that in the true astral realm time is 1, that is past, present and future is one. I've also heard from people that say when they are aping, what seems like 5 minutes is an hour.

From my own personal experiences, time doesn't change that much.

Well, You are right.."Might not happen" But the there is the whole theory that everyone had a pre determined destiny...And every decision
takes you to another variation of that destiny...So it is possible to alter it to one of the infinate variations....But that is whole other discussion...
Thank you

So...Sort of like you see in movies.....In that state moments in time are kind of like balloons , past and present and future. and you just
meander in and out of them......OK....I understand....Thank you ....

I'm sure reading some odd things here that I have never heard of or done.
What does APing have to do with time travel?
When you AP you are moving into different realms of reality, realities where the past, present and future are happening at the same time. Time is not linear on the astral plane.

I do think people can distort time but this isn't Aping.
I get periods when this happens to me which is not deliberate or predictable.
I live in the country and it is a 30 minute drive for me in heavy traffic to reach the first intersection on the edge of town.
I have driven into town, 5 miles inside this first intersection in 5-10 minutes with no memory of the trip.
Road hypnosis? I don't think so because of the fast time of the trip.

My first question about your 24-48hr future AP would be; why 24-48 hours?
These are time intervals on this physical plane and would mean nothing on the AP.

I believe if you do project and glemse at the future them there is no restriction as to the time. Haven't you ever known that someone will call you in 30 minutes? How did you know that? This brings up another point that you can project during the day with your eyes open and fully involved in physical activities. Many call it intuition.

I've heard exactly the same thing, that there is no time and that it all appears to happen at once.

It's a tad mindboggling if you think about it too much lol.

The other interesting thing I've thought about is that unless we all had clocks and watches to our disposal, would many of us really know what time it was in the day down to the minute? I wonder if that is because although we are in a physical world, our thoughts are from our mind which may have absolutely no concept of time whatsoever.

(I bet our souls are terrible time-keepers LOL)

I don't know what APing has to do with time travel...I am new at this remember......I was just stating what I read....
I think you driving is that phased loss of time....kind of trance like.....
The 24-48 hour thing was stated in the book as, The energy ( your energy ) can only carry so far ...before it dissapates....You haer about people seeing
Things that glow or a big ball of energy...thes balls are supposed to be residuals that tranfer from plane to plane ...Now I am talking about goiong in to the future
for an extended period of time...Like hours....not just floating arround and watching...or havingflashes..Those are supposed to be infinate future and past..
Because moments and experiences carry their own energy.......But anyway...this is all just what I have read...... Thank you for the input...

jeffb........I am a scientist and always look for a conventional reason for what happens before a psychic reason.
I'm not sure what 'phased loss of time' means, a 'kind of trance'.
My acid test is arriving at a destination 30 minutes ahead of time which a trance can not explane.

You will read many strange things and without first hand experience it might just be good reading.
Balls of energy???? Why would a spirit/entity have residual energy? An entity can share energy, sorta like tagging a wild animal for later retrieval.
There is a very efficent process in place in the AP, you as the entity does not necessary radiate energy as a residue.
As a spirit entity you only channel God's energy through you, you are not God who creates energy!
BTW - my energy does not dissipates, I am only a conduit.

Well what I meant , As far as your test you stated it took 5 to 10 minutes for a regular 30 min trip....So I was saying that you went in to
a ( sort of trance) while you were driving and subconciously you were driving and speeding without being aware of what was happening...
That 's what I was trying to say....
Well I don't rally care about the energy argument , But it actualy has been proven by hundreds of so cald ( Ghost hunters) that spirits and entitys
Do in fact have energy and when recorder of filmed or using highly sensitive instrument the energy has been proven to effect this plane . So I assume that
Is also why many people stat that when they project they see glowing and areas of energy. We channel gods energy ?????? OK without slipping in to
any religious or spiritual argument with channeling gods energy....We have energy in us ..we all generate an electrical field and it has also been proven that
people can extend the electrical field ......... I assue that is what the book is refering to......

This is an excellent post. The only point I would make is that sometimes obe's can be verified independently by those you have been observing. I once spent 10 minutes or so hovering over a group of senior boys at a beachside party and recorded their rather interesting comments about a range of people and events. Next day at school, when I recounted these conversations to the students, they verified them, but made the assumption that I had listened in by sneaking up on them (miles away in the middle of the night.) For my own reputation I did not disillusion them. I would rather they thought i had ninja skills, than paranormal powers, given past reactions to similar experiences.