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Shadowh86
I think that death is some kind of god because it will take your life and it could decide not to take it

Think about it

Death is in all of us
No one doubt of its existence, it can come when ever it like

I personaly think of death as god because it power is greatfull than God or even Devil

I do not know if I am right but that is my opinion
JMPD1
Humans seem to love anthropomorphizing things. 'Mother Nature', 'Father Time', 'Old Man winter', 'Death'.

Death is a fact of existence. Barring accident or illness, our bodies lose the ability to regenerate new tissue and heal wounds. The systems degrade and are prone to failure as one ages.

Why fall back on a primitive superstition to make death personal? Or do you really picture death as a walking, cloaking skeleton with a scythe and an hourglass?
BlueMoods
Exactly, death is an inevitable part of life, not a being just a process all of humankind is in the midst of. Just a matter of how long before its completed for each of us.
Alara
Death occurs when our bodies are worn out by old age or disease or even accidents. Yes it is inevitable but I don't think it has a personality or personal power. If death was a god it would have to orchestrate our lives in many ways so, for example, I would die when it decides and in that exact moment I was run over by a car or had a heart attack etc.
How do you picture death?
rhyknow
QUOTE(Shadowh86 @ Feb 24 2007, 02:56 PM) [snapback]1556456[/snapback]
I think that death is some kind of god because it will take your life and it could decide not to take it


I disagree. We all die eventually, no matter what. There's no choice about it.

Death is personified by most cultures though (I.E. the Grim Reaper), however I think that if Death was more potent than God and Satan, then it could "kill" God, am I correct?

Good theory though, you've put some good points out there
Mattshark
Death is an anthropomorphic personification and has a horse called Binky and a grandaughter called Susan.... thumbsup.gif










And most importantly...he is fictional grin2.gif
hafizbms
What if there is a God? A God that controls all that happens in this world? Even death itself.
RadicalGnostic
For me death is the experience of transformation. We die to self and become more divine-like in ourselves. Ultimately death is the transformation of life inside a corporeal body to life as the spiritual being we truly are.

Peace,

RadicalGnostic
rhyknow
QUOTE(Mattshark @ Feb 24 2007, 06:23 PM) [snapback]1556620[/snapback]
Death is an anthropomorphic personification and has a horse called Binky and a grandaughter called Susan.... thumbsup.gif
And most importantly...he is fictional grin2.gif


Lmao gotta love Discworld grin2.gif
Tangerine Sheri
QUOTE(hafizbms @ Feb 24 2007, 09:57 AM) [snapback]1556649[/snapback]
What if there is a God? A God that controls all that happens in this world? Even death itself.

what if there isn't and you have wasted your time beleiving there was......
Darkwind
QUOTE(RadicalGnostic @ Feb 24 2007, 09:51 PM) [snapback]1556843[/snapback]
For me death is the experience of transformation. We die to self and become more divine-like in ourselves. Ultimately death is the transformation of life inside a corporeal body to life as the spiritual being we truly are.

Peace,

RadicalGnostic


I could agree with that. In my faith I have Gods of life and death. The Morrigan is a Goddess of war, life and death. The Dagda is a God of life and death, among other things.

Death is a part if life I have no fear of it, I worry more about getting hurt than I do dieing.
GoddessWhispers
Is death a god?

Just as good as any. For some, it is already, if history has anything to show for it. Not to mention what are considered blood and death cults in the contemporary world. Maybe it can be said god is death, death is god. After all, it's the one equalizer of us all.
Jor-el
No, death is not a god, it is the result of sin. Since we all sin and have sinned we will all die.

Romans 5:12

Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned...


Romans 6:23

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
GoddessWhispers
See? I told ya! tongue.gif
Shadowh86
I do not say that there is no God or Satan
But God and Satan can't die
Because Death will not take their life

Death is God to Satan and God
That at least I think
metalkannibal
I do not agree with you,But i can see what you mean.
pauld1030
QUOTE(hafizbms @ Feb 24 2007, 12:57 PM) [snapback]1556649[/snapback]
What if there is a God? A God that controls all that happens in this world? Even death itself.

god jesus peter gabriel that makes up the cross on top you have god on the right you have jesus than you have peter the guarder of the gate to heaven than you have the left hand of god gabriel. you might not know but gabriel is the arc angel of death he is the one who comes and takes you away. the reason he has this highly postion. is because lucifer who at one time was god's fav angel rose up against him with many planets backing him which in do time when god judges the world the leader of the planets will be signifacant in hell, gabriel agreed with lucifer. not why does god have all the power but why should humans be as equal as angels. lucifers banishment to the 2nd earth than judgement comes will be the lord and ruler of hell. as for gabriel his job is to come take our souls across the river styx and then to the gate of heaven.
Shadowh86
QUOTE(pauld1030 @ Feb 26 2007, 08:21 PM) [snapback]1558939[/snapback]
god jesus peter gabriel that makes up the cross on top you have god on the right you have jesus than you have peter the guarder of the gate to heaven than you have the left hand of god gabriel. you might not know but gabriel is the arc angel of death he is the one who comes and takes you away. the reason he has this highly postion. is because lucifer who at one time was god's fav angel rose up against him with many planets backing him which in do time when god judges the world the leader of the planets will be signifacant in hell, gabriel agreed with lucifer. not why does god have all the power but why should humans be as equal as angels. lucifers banishment to the 2nd earth than judgement comes will be the lord and ruler of hell. as for gabriel his job is to come take our souls across the river styx and then to the gate of heaven.


What about bad people??
Who comes for that people on taking them to Hell??
Cadetak
I believe that death is just the lack of life. One dies because of a series of events, choices, and consequences.

Does a soldier die because it is "his time" or does he die because he decided to join the army and got shot?

If there is some mystical element to death then I don't think it is its own god...it would be either a tool used by an existing god or a 'force' all its own(like Final Destination).
brave_new_world
In my opinion there is a God or Tao (an ultimate all pervading force whatever you wish to call it) and that according to this force life and death are one and the same. They are simply two different expressions of consciousness. Two different ends of the same rope and so their difference is more apparent than real. Death is nothing to fear just like life is nothing to get too excited about. Both bind us to our ego and can only be fully appreciated when detached from. By the way I havn't detached from my ego nor life and death it is just my faith.

After death we enter another world and then from that world maybe come back to this one or go to another and so on and so on until eventually we become one with the force that created all the infinite worlds (which by the way is our true identity thumbsup.gif ).
brave_new_world
QUOTE(Shadowh86 @ Feb 27 2007, 07:37 AM) [snapback]1559271[/snapback]
What about bad people??
Who comes for that people on taking them to Hell??


Hell is simply not knowing the truth. Like all of us here on unexplained mysteries. We all identify with our concept of truth and words etc but that isn't truth. Truth isnt knowing about it in theory but apprehending it directly in it's purity.

Hell may be another of many worlds or incarnations but that is only temporary and eventually you'll move on to better worlds whether this physical one or paradisal heavens or astral planes in order to become one with God, or not become one with God but realize the Godhood you already are. The "I" is the cause of all our miseries. It is the "I" (ego) that gets sick and old and dies. But the consciousness from which the "I" is formed is eternal and infinite. It is our true identity. As socrates would say : Know thyself. That is all that needs to be done. This is the truth and as Jesus said :Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. According to the bible where is God? "The Kingdom of God is within."

What does the biblical name of God ,Jehovah mean?: I am that I am.

"I am" is nothing more than the "Self" for we are all "I am's". How do we discover this Self? The bible answers that as well: Be still and know that I am God.
Torchwood
QUOTE(Mattshark @ Feb 24 2007, 05:23 PM) [snapback]1556620[/snapback]
Death is an anthropomorphic personification and has a horse called Binky and a grandaughter called Susan.... thumbsup.gif
And most importantly...he is fictional grin2.gif

Personaly Id be more scared of Susan than Death!
brave_new_world
Also from a more scientific point of view, a very famous (but now dead) psychiatrist called Carl Gustov Jung had a near death experience. He apparently enjoyed it so much that he was actually disappointed when he was revived. Google this up if you want but I assure you that it is true. Anyway here are his own words of the experience:

What happens at death is so unspeakably glorious that our imagination and our feelings do not suffice to form even an approximation of it. --Carl Jung

thumbsup.gif
Staari
QUOTE(JMPD1 @ Feb 24 2007, 03:17 PM) [snapback]1556514[/snapback]
Humans seem to love anthropomorphizing things. 'Mother Nature', 'Father Time', 'Old Man winter', 'Death'.

Death is a fact of existence. Barring accident or illness, our bodies lose the ability to regenerate new tissue and heal wounds. The systems degrade and are prone to failure as one ages.

Why fall back on a primitive superstition to make death personal? Or do you really picture death as a walking, cloaking skeleton with a scythe and an hourglass?

original.gif Eventhough I know this isnt how it really is ..... I cant help but get all happy and fluffy and stuff!!!!
Tis just such a great thought!!! laugh.gif

QUOTE(RadicalGnostic @ Feb 24 2007, 09:51 PM) [snapback]1556843[/snapback]
For me death is the experience of transformation. We die to self and become more divine-like in ourselves. Ultimately death is the transformation of life inside a corporeal body to life as the spiritual being we truly are.

Aaaaawww thats such a pretty way of putting it!!!


QUOTE(brave_new_world @ Feb 27 2007, 08:42 AM) [snapback]1559892[/snapback]
Hell is simply not knowing the truth. Like all of us here on unexplained mysteries. We all identify with our concept of truth and words etc but that isn't truth. Truth isnt knowing about it in theory but apprehending it directly in it's purity.

Hell may be another of many worlds or incarnations but that is only temporary and eventually you'll move on to better worlds whether ths physical one or paradisal heavens or astral planes in order to become one with God, or not become one with God but realize the Godhood you already are. The "I" is the cause of all our miseries. It is the "I" (ego) that gets sick and old and dies. But the consciousness from which the "I" is formed is eternal and infinite. It is our true identity. As socrates would say : Know thyself. That is all that needs to be done. This is the truth and as Jesus said :Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. According to the bible where is God? "The Kingdom of God is within."

What does the biblical name of God ,Jehovah mean?: I am that I am.

"I am" is nothing more than the "Self" for we are all "I am's". How do we discover this Self? The bible answers that as well: Be still and know that I am God.

I love the way you explain things!!!
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Death to me is what RadicalGnostic has discribed!
A god is what you make ...... create ....... if you so wish it to be then so be it! But realistically speaking with "normal mentality" it is not God over God! The closest you going to get with Death being a being *pause for confusion* is Gabriel. Thats how far it goes!

~*~
Condescending
QUOTE(brave_new_world @ Feb 27 2007, 09:32 AM) [snapback]1559884[/snapback]
In my opinion there is a God or Tao (an ultimate all pervading force whatever you wish to call it) and that according to this force life and death are one and the same. They are simply two different expressions of consciousness. Two different ends of the same rope and so their difference is more apparent than real. Death is nothing to fear just like life is nothing to get too excited about. Both bind us to our ego and can only be fully appreciated when detached from. By the way I havn't detached from my ego nor life and death it is just my faith.

After death we enter another world and then from that world maybe come back to this one or go to another and so on and so on until eventually we become one with the force that created all the infinite worlds (which by the way is our true identity thumbsup.gif ).


You have an interresting way if seing this, im curious.

Do you fear death? I ask because you seem to have put quite some thought into this and still I can't help but "smell" that its as in many religions a way of explaining death so the thought of this death does not make life unliveable or in other words "too scary" .
brave_new_world
QUOTE(Condescending @ Feb 27 2007, 06:05 PM) [snapback]1559913[/snapback]
You have an interresting way if seing this, im curious.

Do you fear death? I ask because you seem to have put quite some thought into this and still I can't help but "smell" that its as in many religions a way of explaining death so the thought of this death does not make life unliveable or in other words "too scary" .


I like to think and say that I do not fear death but I really can't say because I havn't been in a situation in which I have been close to it. If you had a gun pointed to my head I like to think that I would be calm and indifferent but I can't really say until something like that happens.

As I see it, we visit death every night in our deep sleep (without dreams). We have no sense of self, no senses that there is no sense of self, no sense of the world yet do we fear going to sleep. It is an act of faith that we will not wake. But deep sleep is absolute bliss. We all arn't aware that we are there but when we wake we say I had a good sleep. So in effect we are still there and still experience it as bliss even if we are unconscious of it. So if there is nothing at death (and the closest we can get to describing "nothing" is deep sleep but even this is contradictory because nothing is something) it will be blissful and I wont suffer because I wont be unaware of anything.

I have searched through all religions and philosophies to find what intutively makes sense to me. Also through science. All mystics agree that our true nature is a timeless simple awareness which is absolute bliss. This is being God itself or infinite consciousness. The Islam mystics, Hindu mystics, Buddhist mystics (nirvana or universal mind is the same thing as God), Christian mystics, Taoist mystics, zen masters....

All through different contexts arrive at the same rally point. And that the only reason why we suffer is because we identify with our mind or body. This is a post I could write a really good essay about because I have studied this through and through.

Also It isn't just that I want to explain death but want to know what it is. I know i only know concepts and the actual truth but it is all I have until then. To know the truth we must unlearn everything we have been conditioned to believe. This is an essential intellectual process of mortification but a difficult one easier said than done.

I'll leave you with two self-contained explanatory quotes of a hindu guru mystic who preached what he practiced and who knew the truth directly.

There is neither past nor future; there is only the present. Yesterday was the the present when you experienced it; tomorrow will also be the present when you experience it. Therefore , experience takes place only in the present, and beyond and apart from experience nothing exists. Even the present is mere imagination ,for the sense of time is purely mental. ---RAMANA MAHARSHI (ALLAH BLESS HIM)

And this by the same beautiful man:

Pleasure or pain are only aspects of the mind. Our essential nature is happiness. We forget the Self and imagine the body or the mind to be the Self. It is this wrong identity that gives rise to misery. ---Ramana Maharshi

Oh wait here is a good one from a christian mysticism book:

A soul pure in God is God. ---The Philokalia

This is an extremely condensed brief overview. But my intuition agrees with all of the above. On on this note science has absolutely no idea how the brain/matter creates consciousness/awareness. How do unconscious unaware atoms create living consciousness???? Science will never know because the answer is a mystical one and not a scientific one (though mysticism is scientific because it involves the individual seeing true reality for oneself and not hanging all hopes on a belief system as a means and end. And hence mysticism can be verified if one is willing to put the effort in).
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