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hannababe10
Hello all grin2.gif ,

First off, you may not care what i have to say because I'm 15 and the possibility of a dogman is fairly hard to believe, so if you don't care what i have to say... well darn. -edit- tongue.gif


My name is Hanna, i have lived in Benzie County, Michigan my entire life, year round, and i'm truly amazed and appalled that so many Michiganders have never heard of the legend of the dogman, Let alone never even heard it first hand.
anywho, whenever my family gets together my dad & uncle play a recording of the legend of the dogman late at night to freak me out, and every time i hear it i get really scared (especially when i was 5.) So today my uncle stopped over for a visit and we ended up talking about the legend cause they kinda stopped playing it for a few years. i had nearly forgotten about the song and legend behind it but out of the blue the topic came up when he told me about someone from Wisconsin who had a Bigfoot-like animal steel roadkill from the back of his truck (his job was to clean the roadkill off roads, ewww). so after my uncle left i decided to google dogman and see what i could find (because i have OCD and i tend to obsess over things.) But now after over 5 hours sitting at my computer researching it , i think i have read pretty much everything the Internet has to offer about this/these *?* dogman/men.

An intersting thing that i have found on it was an interview with a Native American. A Native Americans Perspective on the Michigan Dogman. <-Theres the link. He goes on about shape shifting and how Traditional Native Americans study their totem very intensely, down to their animal's tendencies and mannerisms. He was talking specifically about the Cheyenne tribe. These warriors (often called dog soldiers or dog men) were very advanced persistent hunters. *getting to the point* the US army supposedly "broke for all time the power of the Cheyenne Dog Soldiers on the central Plains" in the Battle of Summit Springs in Colorado, but stories about them were passed down in the form of folk lour from elders over time and into this neck of the woods (MI) as more natives moved back into Michigan. I believe that these stories may have been twisted and mutilated from being passed down by hearsay to fit what people want to hear and what will make the hairs on the back of their necks stand up and eventually the natives striving to be like their totem which is sometimes referred to as shape shifting became literal shape shifting in stories therefor the legend was created.

Or if you believe that the dogmen/man are out there looming in the rural areas and dark forests of Michigan, Wisconsin and/or Ohio you may want to hear that Steve Cook, the author of the song the legend of the dogman has been an avid folk lour collector since his youth. Possibly he had heard about them in his past and decided to write a fictional story around the idea of the animal-thing.

To me there was one sighting that stuck out. it was the first one i happened to read: Dogman Sighting this sighting was in Michigan near Reed City if i can recall, by a medical student that is majoring in radiology who seemed to be credible for his story. In his letter to a reporter (linda godfrey) he gives the most detailed description of the shape of a dogman's body that i have read and gives very precise information about the times and what exactly he and his friends were doing. He also mentions of hearing rumor about there being more than one of these creatures in his area more like 4 or 5(?). to conclude it he wrote "I don't think this was paranormal, it was biological. Not ghostly." which i agree with completely. After reading this i believe that there is an unknown animal people call the dogman or he is an exceptional writer with to much time on his hands.

A lot of the information out there tends to contradict itself and other information which leaves this a pretty open-ended debate or discussion. Personally i really want to believe that they are out there, but i'm the kind of person who likes to have evidence and clarity before making up my mind, what i really want is to see or take a picture of it, or video, or something to prove that they are out there. people claim to have seen footprints, why don't they take a mold or a picture of the footprint. if you have taken or found a picture online of a dogman or of damage one has done please post it, or a sketch of one that someone who has seen a dogman has drew. or a sketch of what you think one looks like.

So yeah... i know this is kind of an odd-off the wall post but what the hell, if u actually read this far i bet it got u thinking wink2.gif . i just want to pick your brain to see what you think about the possibility of the existance of a dogman. Also if you think that there could be more than one of them. You may even come to the conclusion that they are a cross breed, an unknown animal, a biological mishap or whatever. im not writing this for you to criticize my thoughts, knowledge, research, or lack of writing ability *because i am only a sophomore in high school*, i just want you to stretch yourself, be open minded and tell me what you think. but if u feel the need to criticize me knock your socks off. =]

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MUM24/7
QUOTE(hannababe10 @ Feb 26 2007, 07:21 PM) [snapback]1558580[/snapback]
[font=Arial]Hello all grin2.gif ,

First off, you may not care what i have to say because I'm 15 and the possibility of a dogman is fairly hard to believe, so if you don't care what i have to say... well darn. i don't really give a -edit- tongue.gif


Hanna sweetie,

First off it's not polite to be rude to people you don't even know.....
Second, it's best to focus on school and your studies instead of spending hours on the net, researching crap like this......

Have a nice life......

Regards,

Mum
pauld1030
hanna are you speaking of the story of the beast of bray road well in all honesty no i dont belive in it because people also say where they seen the creature they also seen ufo's now let me ask you youngster why would intellgent creatures of other worlds looking for life why would they go to nowhereville michigan to scare bumpkins hillbillies rednecks whatever you wanna call yourselfs is beyond reason so if there were creditable people like a mayor governor or something with a camcorder who records this then i somewhat belive it if it were real
Daughter of the Nine Moons
Hi hannababe10,

First off welcome to UM..

I have removed your email address from your post as anybody wanting to email you with more info can through your profile.

Please keep in mind that we encourage a friendly discussion of ideas and opening your topic with with the statement that you dont give a **** about others opinion is a surefire way to start a flame war (bad) and the quickest way to get your topic closed (inevitable).

Enjoy posting and lets keep things civil thumbsup.gif

-Dot
rezna
I think it should be the responsibility of the people of this board to not start flame wars unneccisary to this forum. I think she was just trying to say that she would state her opinion and doesn't care that she think what she thinks. (I dont think she did anything wrong. =)

This is an interesting phenomena, there are other threads similar to this kind of cryptid. You might want to read some of the other threads about Bigfoot or Yeti stuff. Quite interesting.
sargeant80
I have to say I dont believe in the dogman.

I feel that most myths and legends tend to have a basis in fact ( eg, King Arthur, the amazons, mermaids ) and then develop in time to what we have today.

It seems the Native American dog soldiers would be a good starting point for this to begin.

However unlikely it may be, we can never be certain of whats out there.

PS.

Keep researching what you have an interest in as I certainly dont think your wasting your time doing it.

rezna
QUOTE(sargeant80 @ Feb 28 2007, 10:10 PM) [snapback]1563041[/snapback]
PS.

Keep researching what you have an interest in as I certainly dont think your wasting your time doing it.


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distortedpandy
do I believe?



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Exeter
I've never heard of the dogman.

I've heard of Catwoman though. wub.gif
Daughter of the Nine Moons
QUOTE(rezna @ Feb 28 2007, 03:11 PM) [snapback]1562201[/snapback]
I think it should be the responsibility of the people of this board to not start flame wars unneccisary to this forum.


Actually, if you look closely at the forum rules flame baiting is as actively discouraged as flaming

QUOTE(rezna @ Feb 28 2007, 03:11 PM) [snapback]1562201[/snapback]
I think she was just trying to say that she would state her opinion and doesn't care that she think what she thinks. (I dont think she did anything wrong. =)

Since no one has successfully proven that they can read minds on a message board lets agree that a persons words speak louder than their intent. thumbsup.gif
kiddglock
QUOTE(hannababe10 @ Feb 26 2007, 08:21 AM) [snapback]1558580[/snapback]
Hello all grin2.gif ,

First off, you may not care what i have to say because I'm 15 and the possibility of a dogman is fairly hard to believe, so if you don't care what i have to say... well darn. -edit- tongue.gif


My name is Hanna, i have lived in Benzie County, Michigan my entire life, year round, and i'm truly amazed and appalled that so many Michiganders have never heard of the legend of the dogman, Let alone never even heard it first hand.
anywho, whenever my family gets together my dad & uncle play a recording of the legend of the dogman late at night to freak me out, and every time i hear it i get really scared (especially when i was 5.) So today my uncle stopped over for a visit and we ended up talking about the legend cause they kinda stopped playing it for a few years. i had nearly forgotten about the song and legend behind it but out of the blue the topic came up when he told me about someone from Wisconsin who had a Bigfoot-like animal steel roadkill from the back of his truck (his job was to clean the roadkill off roads, ewww). so after my uncle left i decided to google dogman and see what i could find (because i have OCD and i tend to obsess over things.) But now after over 5 hours sitting at my computer researching it , i think i have read pretty much everything the Internet has to offer about this/these *?* dogman/men.

An intersting thing that i have found on it was an interview with a Native American. A Native Americans Perspective on the Michigan Dogman. <-Theres the link. He goes on about shape shifting and how Traditional Native Americans study their totem very intensely, down to their animal's tendencies and mannerisms. He was talking specifically about the Cheyenne tribe. These warriors (often called dog soldiers or dog men) were very advanced persistent hunters. *getting to the point* the US army supposedly "broke for all time the power of the Cheyenne Dog Soldiers on the central Plains" in the Battle of Summit Springs in Colorado, but stories about them were passed down in the form of folk lour from elders over time and into this neck of the woods (MI) as more natives moved back into Michigan. I believe that these stories may have been twisted and mutilated from being passed down by hearsay to fit what people want to hear and what will make the hairs on the back of their necks stand up and eventually the natives striving to be like their totem which is sometimes referred to as shape shifting became literal shape shifting in stories therefor the legend was created.

Or if you believe that the dogmen/man are out there looming in the rural areas and dark forests of Michigan, Wisconsin and/or Ohio you may want to hear that Steve Cook, the author of the song the legend of the dogman has been an avid folk lour collector since his youth. Possibly he had heard about them in his past and decided to write a fictional story around the idea of the animal-thing.

To me there was one sighting that stuck out. it was the first one i happened to read: Dogman Sighting this sighting was in Michigan near Reed City if i can recall, by a medical student that is majoring in radiology who seemed to be credible for his story. In his letter to a reporter (linda godfrey) he gives the most detailed description of the shape of a dogman's body that i have read and gives very precise information about the times and what exactly he and his friends were doing. He also mentions of hearing rumor about there being more than one of these creatures in his area more like 4 or 5(?). to conclude it he wrote "I don't think this was paranormal, it was biological. Not ghostly." which i agree with completely. After reading this i believe that there is an unknown animal people call the dogman or he is an exceptional writer with to much time on his hands.

A lot of the information out there tends to contradict itself and other information which leaves this a pretty open-ended debate or discussion. Personally i really want to believe that they are out there, but i'm the kind of person who likes to have evidence and clarity before making up my mind, what i really want is to see or take a picture of it, or video, or something to prove that they are out there. people claim to have seen footprints, why don't they take a mold or a picture of the footprint. if you have taken or found a picture online of a dogman or of damage one has done please post it, or a sketch of one that someone who has seen a dogman has drew. or a sketch of what you think one looks like.

So yeah... i know this is kind of an odd-off the wall post but what the hell, if u actually read this far i bet it got u thinking wink2.gif . i just want to pick your brain to see what you think about the possibility of the existance of a dogman. Also if you think that there could be more than one of them. You may even come to the conclusion that they are a cross breed, an unknown animal, a biological mishap or whatever. im not writing this for you to criticize my thoughts, knowledge, research, or lack of writing ability *because i am only a sophomore in high school*, i just want you to stretch yourself, be open minded and tell me what you think. but if u feel the need to criticize me knock your socks off. =]

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thanks


Welcome to the forum. Very interesting post. Thanks for sharin'.
Dr Haisook
Nice read, Hanna. Your writing skill is great, by the way.
Also, keep researching what interests you. original.gif
Kyle Rajasthan
QUOTE(hannababe10 @ Feb 26 2007, 03:21 AM) [snapback]1558580[/snapback]
Hello all grin2.gif ,

First off, you may not care what i have to say because I'm 15 and the possibility of a dogman is fairly hard to believe, so if you don't care what i have to say... well darn. -edit- tongue.gif


My name is Hanna, i have lived in Benzie County, Michigan my entire life, year round, and i'm truly amazed and appalled that so many Michiganders have never heard of the legend of the dogman, Let alone never even heard it first hand.
anywho, whenever my family gets together my dad & uncle play a recording of the legend of the dogman late at night to freak me out, and every time i hear it i get really scared (especially when i was 5.) So today my uncle stopped over for a visit and we ended up talking about the legend cause they kinda stopped playing it for a few years. i had nearly forgotten about the song and legend behind it but out of the blue the topic came up when he told me about someone from Wisconsin who had a Bigfoot-like animal steel roadkill from the back of his truck (his job was to clean the roadkill off roads, ewww). so after my uncle left i decided to google dogman and see what i could find (because i have OCD and i tend to obsess over things.) But now after over 5 hours sitting at my computer researching it , i think i have read pretty much everything the Internet has to offer about this/these *?* dogman/men.

An intersting thing that i have found on it was an interview with a Native American. A Native Americans Perspective on the Michigan Dogman. <-Theres the link. He goes on about shape shifting and how Traditional Native Americans study their totem very intensely, down to their animal's tendencies and mannerisms. He was talking specifically about the Cheyenne tribe. These warriors (often called dog soldiers or dog men) were very advanced persistent hunters. *getting to the point* the US army supposedly "broke for all time the power of the Cheyenne Dog Soldiers on the central Plains" in the Battle of Summit Springs in Colorado, but stories about them were passed down in the form of folk lour from elders over time and into this neck of the woods (MI) as more natives moved back into Michigan. I believe that these stories may have been twisted and mutilated from being passed down by hearsay to fit what people want to hear and what will make the hairs on the back of their necks stand up and eventually the natives striving to be like their totem which is sometimes referred to as shape shifting became literal shape shifting in stories therefor the legend was created.

Or if you believe that the dogmen/man are out there looming in the rural areas and dark forests of Michigan, Wisconsin and/or Ohio you may want to hear that Steve Cook, the author of the song the legend of the dogman has been an avid folk lour collector since his youth. Possibly he had heard about them in his past and decided to write a fictional story around the idea of the animal-thing.

To me there was one sighting that stuck out. it was the first one i happened to read: Dogman Sighting this sighting was in Michigan near Reed City if i can recall, by a medical student that is majoring in radiology who seemed to be credible for his story. In his letter to a reporter (linda godfrey) he gives the most detailed description of the shape of a dogman's body that i have read and gives very precise information about the times and what exactly he and his friends were doing. He also mentions of hearing rumor about there being more than one of these creatures in his area more like 4 or 5(?). to conclude it he wrote "I don't think this was paranormal, it was biological. Not ghostly." which i agree with completely. After reading this i believe that there is an unknown animal people call the dogman or he is an exceptional writer with to much time on his hands.

A lot of the information out there tends to contradict itself and other information which leaves this a pretty open-ended debate or discussion. Personally i really want to believe that they are out there, but i'm the kind of person who likes to have evidence and clarity before making up my mind, what i really want is to see or take a picture of it, or video, or something to prove that they are out there. people claim to have seen footprints, why don't they take a mold or a picture of the footprint. if you have taken or found a picture online of a dogman or of damage one has done please post it, or a sketch of one that someone who has seen a dogman has drew. or a sketch of what you think one looks like.

So yeah... i know this is kind of an odd-off the wall post but what the hell, if u actually read this far i bet it got u thinking wink2.gif . i just want to pick your brain to see what you think about the possibility of the existance of a dogman. Also if you think that there could be more than one of them. You may even come to the conclusion that they are a cross breed, an unknown animal, a biological mishap or whatever. im not writing this for you to criticize my thoughts, knowledge, research, or lack of writing ability *because i am only a sophomore in high school*, i just want you to stretch yourself, be open minded and tell me what you think. but if u feel the need to criticize me knock your socks off. =]

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thanks



Greetings to you. I am also new to this forum, and so far, I find the people here reasonable and intelligent. There may be some truth to these sightings of the "Dogman". I will explain. There are mentions of an ancient race of creatures called the "Cynocephalli" (Cynocephalli is Latin for "Dog Heads"), such stories abound in the medieval texts. Not much is actually known about them, or if these stories are bassed in fact or not, but some other examples of Cynocephalli can be found if you look. The Egyptian god Anubis is a good example, as well as his predesessor Wepwawet. Both are Canine headed "humans". The Aztec god Xolotl has a simillar appearance. The Mayans have Nahua (Dog of lightning and death), and if you keep looking you will find even more. Like the native American "skinwalkers". Or the Norsemans Fenrir Wolf. You can also read two really good books on this subject written by Linda Godfrey. There are many "sightings" in these books. Well, just thought I would give people some "thing" to think about.

Good Journey.

Kyle Rajasthan.
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